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...Asking the fans to travel 3 continents just to watch the games is outright crazy. Think about the fans...

In my opinion, these three matches will be watched by the local population. The fans who will be at the World Cup probably won't watch these games, as there will only be 3 matches, with Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay kicking off.
I don't think people from other countries will go to South America first and then to Europe to watch the games.
So consider it just that, that it's an opportunity for local fans to watch a match

The last time I checked it was supposed to be hosted by chile as well.

It looks like chile is now not part of it, I wonder what happened.

The Chilean federation was very unhappy with this choice, leaving Chile aside.
The explanations would be:
1 - The other official bid for the cup was from 3 countries, Portugal Spain and Morocco, so they wanted to do the same, with 3 countries.
2 - Uruguay hosted the 2030 World Cup, Argentina is the current champion and Paraguay is the headquarters of Conmebol, so Chile would be the weakest country politically speaking
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I wouldn't be too sure about it. I doubt that he will play 90 minute games. I guess that doesn't make sense and may not physically be possible on the level that is required at a World Cup. But having him on the team could still boost some extra hype and when he gets substituted for some player during the game, I think the audiences would go nuts.

Your math about his age is correct, but Ronaldo has not retired yet either. These guys are in the game for records and Ronaldo is probably going to try and play one more hoping for his team to win it and equalize the difference to Messi. It is also an incredible event in terms of size.

Well, I do have faith and hope that Messi will play for the next World Cup, maybe at 39 years old things will not be so bad, if Messi and CR7 play Messi at 39 and CR7 at 41 would be a hard blow for all the European teams that They wanted to lower the football career of these players by telling them that they were old, very bad of them, Messi still has a lot to give , in the World Cup qualifiers they are doing very well, I think things are not discussed about this type of world stars, even though the most powerful players there are have not reached the level that CR7 and Messi have, they are players who can make the difference this time, in addition to everything that has been speculated about Barcelona than its 6 titles when Messi came to the team and with the World Cup, which they say helped him a lot, but they can clean up his name very well in the World Cup, it's good, and I would like a match on Argentina vs Portugal, where these two Legends are, I think that That's what it's about, to be able to do something very good , otherwise you wouldn't be able to have another type of emotion, I think that all of us as fans deserve this, one more meeting, since at Euorp they were treated so badly, Unfortunately, I think that these will be the last Clubs of these stars because at least CR7 Already said it, and Messi, well, I imagine that he doesn't want to live through so many tough times like the ones he experienced at PSG.

In general, things in world football and in its teams are usually treated in a different way, first, it must be considered that these players are world class, that everyone acclaims them, that those who are fans of Messi or CR7, in this In this case, I believe that Messi can Be Easily convinced by his Teammates and by all of Argentina to play again, the one who would like him to come back and help win the cup is the Dimaría noodle, because he did a great job in Qatar,  he was the one who helped the victories. from Argentina.


That's the point here. Messi and Ronaldo would probably still be able to make a difference at the World Cup 2026. They may not take the ball and dribble across the whole field just on their own and then score, but Messi's free kick and passing precision is unprecedented and he would still be able to either score or assist in many game situations. Ronaldo is probably hardly losing any of his physical strength until then. Maybe just a few %, but he would still be quick and fit enough to be a center forward who understands how and where to strike during a game. Imagine you have Ronaldo sitting on the bench and you can bring him on for just 20 minutes at the end of the game. I guess it doesn't even matter if he is 41 years old or 37 years old.
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Currently, Messi is 36 years old, and when the 2026 World Cup starts, Messi will be 39 years old. I think Messi will no longer play in the next World Cup considering his age, and I predict Messi will retire from football before the World Cup. However, to increase the enthusiasm of the audience and to grab attention, I will not hesitate to say that America is the champion. Not only Messi, there will be lots of famous former football players taking part in advertising the World Cup in America, Canada and Mexico.

I wouldn't be too sure about it. I doubt that he will play 90 minute games. I guess that doesn't make sense and may not physically be possible on the level that is required at a World Cup. But having him on the team could still boost some extra hype and when he gets substituted for some player during the game, I think the audiences would go nuts.

Your math about his age is correct, but Ronaldo has not retired yet either. These guys are in the game for records and Ronaldo is probably going to try and play one more hoping for his team to win it and equalize the difference to Messi. It is also an incredible event in terms of size.

Well, I do have faith and hope that Messi will play for the next World Cup, maybe at 39 years old things will not be so bad, if Messi and CR7 play Messi at 39 and CR7 at 41 would be a hard blow for all the European teams that They wanted to lower the football career of these players by telling them that they were old, very bad of them, Messi still has a lot to give , in the World Cup qualifiers they are doing very well, I think things are not discussed about this type of world stars, even though the most powerful players there are have not reached the level that CR7 and Messi have, they are players who can make the difference this time, in addition to everything that has been speculated about Barcelona than its 6 titles when Messi came to the team and with the World Cup, which they say helped him a lot, but they can clean up his name very well in the World Cup, it's good, and I would like a match on Argentina vs Portugal, where these two Legends are, I think that That's what it's about, to be able to do something very good , otherwise you wouldn't be able to have another type of emotion, I think that all of us as fans deserve this, one more meeting, since at Euorp they were treated so badly, Unfortunately, I think that these will be the last Clubs of these stars because at least CR7 Already said it, and Messi, well, I imagine that he doesn't want to live through so many tough times like the ones he experienced at PSG.

In general, things in world football and in its teams are usually treated in a different way, first, it must be considered that these players are world class, that everyone acclaims them, that those who are fans of Messi or CR7, in this In this case, I believe that Messi can Be Easily convinced by his Teammates and by all of Argentina to play again, the one who would like him to come back and help win the cup is the Dimaría noodle, because he did a great job in Qatar,  he was the one who helped the victories. from Argentina.
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As this is the active World Cup thread, I'll post it here
If many here are already thinking it's bad that the World Cup will be played in 3 countries, take a look at this news that just came out:

The 2030 World Cup will be played in 3 continents and 6 countries

A brief summary: Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay (South America) will play the first matches of each team in their own country, to celebrate the centenary of the World Cup
After that, the World Cup will be played "normally" in 3 countries: Portugal, Spain and Morocco (Europe and Africa).

It was FIFA's way of holding the World Cup where it prefers, while still paying tribute to the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup

So, what do you think? A good way for FIFA to please everyone?

The last time I checked it was supposed to be hosted by chile as well.

It looks like chile is now not part of it, I wonder what happened.
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This is the first time I have read about this, the current format of the world cup with Canada, the US and Mexico hosting it could still be argued that it made sense, as those three countries are heavily integrated and they are part of the same continent, while you could still get away with speaking a single language, in this case English, as even if there are parts of Canada in which French is the dominant language and when it comes to Mexico Spanish is their official language, there are still lots of people which speak English, but hosting the world cup at six different countries and three continents is simply too much, and it would not surprise me if the attendance to the 2030 world cup by the fans dropped considerably.

What single language is it that connects Mexico so closely with the USA and Canada?

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According to the data I could find, which is outdated but it was the best I got, 12.9% of the Mexican population can speak English, all of them as a second language, so you could literally grab a few random people on the street and you will soon find someone which could speak English, and taking into account the distribution of those speakers is not random and they are concentrated on big cities, then it should be even easier for a person which just speaks English to get by even without knowing a single word of Spanish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population

I don't think if understanding the English language can be ever a problem in Mexico or any other country hosting the World Cup.
We know there are many countries where they prefer to learn another language like French or German instead of English, also The World Cup visitors who come to Mexico will usually use a tour guide who can translate everything they want.
Also in the last World Cup, we had many other countries they didn't know English language.
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Is a fucking joke man this 2030 world cup, i hope this doesnt ended up being that way, two continents distant 14.000 km one from another. 6 countries, no sense, bring back normal world cups in one country and that country have to be a football country, not a shit one.
They've got a reason for it. As a centenary celebration the starting three matches being played in their own countries doesn't gonna affect anything. From the fourth match onwards everything used to be functional same as what is being planned for the upcoming FIFA World Cup. People who prefer to watch the complete tournament reaching the football ground, it would be difficult. However many people will get opportunity to watch football matches which isn't an easy thing. Just think it in that way, not everyone able to travel due to the expense, and those people enjoy watching it played on their home countries.

These are just stupid excuses. If they want the centenary celebration, then what prevents them from holding a mini-world cup in the South American nations? Asking the fans to travel 3 continents just to watch the games is outright crazy. Think about the fans. They don't deserve any of this shit. And it is not just the effort and money that is required for the travel. They need to apply for visas, and it is going to take a lot of work. My guess is that nowadays FIFA cares only about the TV audience, and not about the actual fans who travel to watch the matches on stadiums.
2026 world cup is supposed to be held by three nations and that is sure but I read some news about 2030 world cup being held where many claim that 2030 world cup will be held by six nations. If it is so difficult for fans to travel to three countries, how can fans attend the 2030 World Cup in six countries where the games are scheduled to be held in several sub-continents including Latin America and Asia. If FIFA has taken such a decision then it is very crazy. Also, the World Cup can be organized in the country, but how FIFA wants to organize some matches in Europe, some matches in Latin America and some matches in Asia. A World Cup tournament should be organized by any country keeping in mind the audience.
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Well.. Silberman was probably implying that almost everyone in Mexico can understand English. That was not the case when the world cup was held in Brazil (2014) or Russia (2018). Anyway, leave the language apart. The main issue here is travel. 2026 edition will be a great torture, as some of the fans need to travel thousands of miles to watch the matches of their favorite team. But then, 2030 is at an entirely different level. Who will be happy, if they are being made to travel from Uruguay or Argentina to Morocco? This is just plain crazy.

I don't know about Brazil, but I know that about one third in Russia is proficient in English and I would confidently say that in Russia there is more English proficiency than in both countries you mentioned, Brazil and Mexico. This is a source citing a test, but I also read across a couple of other sources. Since I know some Russians very well, I can tell from what they told me and English is quite well known. The reason is that Spanish or Portuguese is so widespread that these people are less dependent on learning additional languages. But no worries, this is not to educate or insult anyone here. It was a little interesting discourse either way. But language, as you said, shouldn't really matter. It is more about distances and political repression like in Qatar. Those are the things that we as consumers or visitors should be concerned about.  

According to the data I could find, which is outdated but it was the best I got, 12.9% of the Mexican population can speak English, all of them as a second language, so you could literally grab a few random people on the street and you will soon find someone which could speak English, and taking into account the distribution of those speakers is not random and they are concentrated on big cities, then it should be even easier for a person which just speaks English to get by even without knowing a single word of Spanish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population

Language is really no point here and I am sure that it is something which could easily be taken care of by setting up info points for tourists and so on and so forth. As I mentioned above it wasn't meant to attack you or anything, but from your merit I understand you didn't take it as such. Wink I would merit you back, but I only have a single one to give so I apologize because sometimes I keep those for special occasions. Maybe this dialogue turns into one later on! Wink
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This is the first time I have read about this, the current format of the world cup with Canada, the US and Mexico hosting it could still be argued that it made sense, as those three countries are heavily integrated and they are part of the same continent, while you could still get away with speaking a single language, in this case English, as even if there are parts of Canada in which French is the dominant language and when it comes to Mexico Spanish is their official language, there are still lots of people which speak English, but hosting the world cup at six different countries and three continents is simply too much, and it would not surprise me if the attendance to the 2030 world cup by the fans dropped considerably.

What single language is it that connects Mexico so closely with the USA and Canada?

...
According to the data I could find, which is outdated but it was the best I got, 12.9% of the Mexican population can speak English, all of them as a second language, so you could literally grab a few random people on the street and you will soon find someone which could speak English, and taking into account the distribution of those speakers is not random and they are concentrated on big cities, then it should be even easier for a person which just speaks English to get by even without knowing a single word of Spanish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population
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What single language is it that connects Mexico so closely with the USA and Canada?

I think all the associations, but first and foremost the FIFA, have realized that no matter how they structure these tournaments, the stadiums will be sold out no matter what and how they host the World Cups. That is indeed what counts for them. Sold out stadiums, big involvement of the global audience to drive up broadcasting revenue. I don't really have an opinion on that, but maybe one of the reasons also is that this gives the chance to smaller countries to also host a small part of the World Cup while otherwise they would have never gotten a chance. Obviously not aware of the details, but there are pros and cons I think.

Well.. Silberman was probably implying that almost everyone in Mexico can understand English. That was not the case when the world cup was held in Brazil (2014) or Russia (2018). Anyway, leave the language apart. The main issue here is travel. 2026 edition will be a great torture, as some of the fans need to travel thousands of miles to watch the matches of their favorite team. But then, 2030 is at an entirely different level. Who will be happy, if they are being made to travel from Uruguay or Argentina to Morocco? This is just plain crazy.
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These are just stupid excuses. If they want the centenary celebration, then what prevents them from holding a mini-world cup in the South American nations? Asking the fans to travel 3 continents just to watch the games is outright crazy. Think about the fans. They don't deserve any of this shit. And it is not just the effort and money that is required for the travel. They need to apply for visas, and it is going to take a lot of work. My guess is that nowadays FIFA cares only about the TV audience, and not about the actual fans who travel to watch the matches on stadiums.
This is the first time I have read about this, the current format of the world cup with Canada, the US and Mexico hosting it could still be argued that it made sense, as those three countries are heavily integrated and they are part of the same continent, while you could still get away with speaking a single language, in this case English, as even if there are parts of Canada in which French is the dominant language and when it comes to Mexico Spanish is their official language, there are still lots of people which speak English, but hosting the world cup at six different countries and three continents is simply too much, and it would not surprise me if the attendance to the 2030 world cup by the fans dropped considerably.

What single language is it that connects Mexico so closely with the USA and Canada?

I think all the associations, but first and foremost the FIFA, have realized that no matter how they structure these tournaments, the stadiums will be sold out no matter what and how they host the World Cups. That is indeed what counts for them. Sold out stadiums, big involvement of the global audience to drive up broadcasting revenue. I don't really have an opinion on that, but maybe one of the reasons also is that this gives the chance to smaller countries to also host a small part of the World Cup while otherwise they would have never gotten a chance. Obviously not aware of the details, but there are pros and cons I think.
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These are just stupid excuses. If they want the centenary celebration, then what prevents them from holding a mini-world cup in the South American nations? Asking the fans to travel 3 continents just to watch the games is outright crazy. Think about the fans. They don't deserve any of this shit. And it is not just the effort and money that is required for the travel. They need to apply for visas, and it is going to take a lot of work. My guess is that nowadays FIFA cares only about the TV audience, and not about the actual fans who travel to watch the matches on stadiums.
This is the first time I have read about this, the current format of the world cup with Canada, the US and Mexico hosting it could still be argued that it made sense, as those three countries are heavily integrated and they are part of the same continent, while you could still get away with speaking a single language, in this case English, as even if there are parts of Canada in which French is the dominant language and when it comes to Mexico Spanish is their official language, there are still lots of people which speak English, but hosting the world cup at six different countries and three continents is simply too much, and it would not surprise me if the attendance to the 2030 world cup by the fans dropped considerably.
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Is a fucking joke man this 2030 world cup, i hope this doesnt ended up being that way, two continents distant 14.000 km one from another. 6 countries, no sense, bring back normal world cups in one country and that country have to be a football country, not a shit one.
They've got a reason for it. As a centenary celebration the starting three matches being played in their own countries doesn't gonna affect anything. From the fourth match onwards everything used to be functional same as what is being planned for the upcoming FIFA World Cup. People who prefer to watch the complete tournament reaching the football ground, it would be difficult. However many people will get opportunity to watch football matches which isn't an easy thing. Just think it in that way, not everyone able to travel due to the expense, and those people enjoy watching it played on their home countries.

These are just stupid excuses. If they want the centenary celebration, then what prevents them from holding a mini-world cup in the South American nations? Asking the fans to travel 3 continents just to watch the games is outright crazy. Think about the fans. They don't deserve any of this shit. And it is not just the effort and money that is required for the travel. They need to apply for visas, and it is going to take a lot of work. My guess is that nowadays FIFA cares only about the TV audience, and not about the actual fans who travel to watch the matches on stadiums.
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As this is the active World Cup thread, I'll post it here
If many here are already thinking it's bad that the World Cup will be played in 3 countries, take a look at this news that just came out:

The 2030 World Cup will be played in 3 continents and 6 countries

A brief summary: Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay (South America) will play the first matches of each team in their own country, to celebrate the centenary of the World Cup
After that, the World Cup will be played "normally" in 3 countries: Portugal, Spain and Morocco (Europe and Africa).

It was FIFA's way of holding the World Cup where it prefers, while still paying tribute to the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup

So, what do you think? A good way for FIFA to please everyone?

It is not going to please those who had intentions to attend to that World Cup and had a limited budget for airplane tickets and reservations.
Honestly, I am not sure it is a good idea to host such a huge event, it would create some inconvenients, like the difference of time for both the players and the fans who want to watch the matches.

It is a clear example of globalization, if you asked me, how technology, communications and infrastructure is getting us closer to each other as time passes. That is a good or bad thing, depending whom you ask.



I still don't know why they are doing this every time, in 2026 FIFA let three countries host the World Cup and now it seems we're going to have many more hosts for the next World Cup which is a little bit weird.
Maybe FIFA is trying to make the World Cup decentred and that's why they want to have different hosts. But I think the best thing they could do was to wait and see the feedback in 2026 and then make the decision to make other countries host the World Cup.


They are either try to be more fair and have more countries to enjoy a piece of the World Cup, or they are trying to make it an event as exclusive as possible for the middle class soccer fan.

It is was hard to afford before now when we are used to have only one host, I cannot even imagine how costly it will be when the average fan who wished to enjoy the full event to pay for several airplane tickets, hotels and even visas in the case of those who live in a country which passport does not offer many options for visa-free destinations.

Honestly, those TV channels and stream hosts which would pay for the broadcast rights would be largely benefited from how expensive this is going to become.
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Is a fucking joke man this 2030 world cup, i hope this doesnt ended up being that way, two continents distant 14.000 km one from another. 6 countries, no sense, bring back normal world cups in one country and that country have to be a football country, not a shit one.
They've got a reason for it. As a centenary celebration the starting three matches being played in their own countries doesn't gonna affect anything. From the fourth match onwards everything used to be functional same as what is being planned for the upcoming FIFA World Cup. People who prefer to watch the complete tournament reaching the football ground, it would be difficult. However many people will get opportunity to watch football matches which isn't an easy thing. Just think it in that way, not everyone able to travel due to the expense, and those people enjoy watching it played on their home countries.
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As this is the active World Cup thread, I'll post it here
If many here are already thinking it's bad that the World Cup will be played in 3 countries, take a look at this news that just came out:

The 2030 World Cup will be played in 3 continents and 6 countries

A brief summary: Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay (South America) will play the first matches of each team in their own country, to celebrate the centenary of the World Cup
After that, the World Cup will be played "normally" in 3 countries: Portugal, Spain and Morocco (Europe and Africa).

It was FIFA's way of holding the World Cup where it prefers, while still paying tribute to the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup

So, what do you think? A good way for FIFA to please everyone?

It is not going to please those who had intentions to attend to that World Cup and had a limited budget for airplane tickets and reservations.
Honestly, I am not sure it is a good idea to host such a huge event, it would create some inconvenients, like the difference of time for both the players and the fans who want to watch the matches.

It is a clear example of globalization, if you asked me, how technology, communications and infrastructure is getting us closer to each other as time passes. That is a good or bad thing, depending whom you ask.



I still don't know why they are doing this every time, in 2026 FIFA let three countries host the World Cup and now it seems we're going to have many more hosts for the next World Cup which is a little bit weird.
Maybe FIFA is trying to make the World Cup decentred and that's why they want to have different hosts. But I think the best thing they could do was to wait and see the feedback in 2026 and then make the decision to make other countries host the World Cup.
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Is a fucking joke man this 2030 world cup, i hope this doesnt ended up being that way, two continents distant 14.000 km one from another. 6 countries, no sense, bring back normal world cups in one country and that country have to be a football country, not a shit one.
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As this is the active World Cup thread, I'll post it here
If many here are already thinking it's bad that the World Cup will be played in 3 countries, take a look at this news that just came out:

The 2030 World Cup will be played in 3 continents and 6 countries

A brief summary: Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay (South America) will play the first matches of each team in their own country, to celebrate the centenary of the World Cup
After that, the World Cup will be played "normally" in 3 countries: Portugal, Spain and Morocco (Europe and Africa).

It was FIFA's way of holding the World Cup where it prefers, while still paying tribute to the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup

So, what do you think? A good way for FIFA to please everyone?
This sound really interesting and engaging as it will involve so much than the regular, because it will means more resources, more logistics and should I say more stress both on the officials and the participants, I don't really know how comfortable this will be with most countries but until then let's wait to see how well this can play out with everyone.

The 100th anniversary of the world cup is indeed a big one that deserves to be celebrated in a very robust Mannar and if FIFA has chosen to carry everyone along to achieve a memorable celebration I don't think it's a bad idea but if it's aimed at satisfying everyone then it will definitely not make enough sense as everyone cannot be satisfied regardless of how well you try.

The challenge that will be faced by almost everyone is been able to attend all the games which will definitely cost the fans so much except they will be playing only in their various continents, but then the venue for the final game is another thing that will be of great consideration as they can never be fair enough with any venue they choose if they are trying to please everyone.
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2026 is still three years away. Do you believe that Messi would still be motivated to take part in the next world cup? He has achieved whatever he wanted to achieve in football. So why should he carry on playing anymore? Lionel Scaloni may want him in the squad, but even if he includes him a lot of questions will be asked. Another factor that may impact his participation is the fact that Messi no longer plays in one of the stronger leagues. At this point he represents Inter Miami, in Major League Soccer (MLS).
Will where he plays really influence the Argentine coach's decision to call him or not? I think not because Scaloni probably saw something else when calling him up but the question remains does Messi still want to play for Argentina? I was quite doubtful about that because he didn't look like a person who was very ambitious about setting records and so on, so when he didn't play in the next world cup it wasn't because he wasn't called up by the Argentine coach but because he chose to completely retire from the national team of his country, regarding all the achievements he has achieved while Ronaldo may still hope to play in the world cup to get it.
I not sure that at the 2026 World Cup Messi will still be on the list of players for Argentina and it looks like Lionel Scaloni will look for other options to replace Messi that they can rely on for that position because Messi will be 39 years old and this is quite an old age for striker who must always be active in every attack.

Argentina has quite lot of talented young players and Lionel Scaloni can call on some of them to really train them to become players who can have more competitive attacking game skills because many players can perform very well when playing with the national team.
I believe that at the 2026 World Cup Argentina will have strong enough squad that can compete even without Messi presence.
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Jesus Christ it's official, wikipedia got updated as well. That 2030 Saudi Arabia thing is obviously not happening and all that Ronaldo stuff basically blew up on their face, but at least they got a lot of viewership from it and they could just host the 2034 one if they keep this up, they are doing great anyway so as long as they do not ruin it, even if Ronaldo is gone, they could just keep it going with whatever year they could do that.

This seems like a bad way, but the three nations are just doing the first games, so it is not like it will be everywhere, after those first games in inaugural or whatever that's called, it's back to Spain.

Spain, Portugal and Morocco is actually closer to each other than Mexico, USA, Canada if you think about it, and that is why it makes sense. This is just some sort of way that Fifa is dealing with the world cup now, they want a lot of nations and constantly growing it. At this point we may start seeing home-away games as well and just make it everywhere.
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Crazy news regarding the 2030 World Cup. FIFA will be providing direct entry to 6 teams (Spain, Portugal, Morocco, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay). If you thought that giving direct entry to 3 teams in 2026 is unfair, then they have stepped up one level for the 2030 edition. This is just plain crazy. What is the point in having qualifier tournament, if there are so many teams with direct entry? What about 2034? Are they going to give direct qualification to 20 teams? I am not sure what FIFA is trying to achieve with all this BS.
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