FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 157.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 20, 2023, 05:06:54 PM

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I don't know much about the possibility of Asian teams winning the FIFA World Cup in future time but I know that if African countries can manage the footballing talents in Africa and develop them to professional level, they have all it takes to win the FIFA World Cup.
France has played in the final of the world cup for the last two editions and were the champions in the 2018 world cup that was hosted in Russia. The majority number of France national team players are of African decent but chose to represent the France national team because football isn't valued in their respective African countries.

For Asian team have Japan is close candidate will be success in the future because many of their player are in the top European teams, difference with other Asian teams more spending and enjoying with domestic league and comfortable joining with their domestic league team than have to play for European teams. I think Asian have better performance than African teams and Asian teams more dominance in every World Cup edition.
No doubt with quality or level from European national teams like France have success managed to final stage on last edition but don't forget with opportunity from Argentina and Brazil will be candidate winning next World Cup.

If we look at the 2024 World Cup, we will see that the African teams performed much better than the Asian teams. Morocco is the first African country to play in the semi-finals of the World Cup. Korea Republic and Japan qualified for the next round in the last World Cup but were eliminated from the next round. African teams are financially weaker than Asian teams, this may be due to their poor performance. When a country is financially prosperous, then there will be good quality players in that country as well as experienced people in all other areas including coaching staff, but if there are financial problems, many people would want to make their living from football and in the hope of extra money income. The manager may take charge of another rich team. Basically all of these have an economic impact on a team.

I'm not saying Asian teams are better, but still, we know Morocco having a good performance in the last World Cup was a miracle and even the coaches and players in Morocco were not expecting to see their team in the semi-final match. The African teams are most don't have a good financial situation and they can't improve enough, also they have poor management systems,
I think expect to see another miracle from African teams in the 2026 World Cup.

@Leviathan.007 I’ll also chose African team’s to perform better then the Asian team’s because their player’s are more naturally skilled but they only fail is due to lack of investment in the infrastructure and lack of correct guidance. However I don’t expect any African or Asian team to win the 2026 World Cup but I wouldn’t be surprised if they defeat some big countries during the course of the World Cup.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on September 19, 2023, 05:26:19 PM

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 17, 2023, 03:54:26 AM

I don't know much about the possibility of Asian teams winning the FIFA World Cup in future time but I know that if African countries can manage the footballing talents in Africa and develop them to professional level, they have all it takes to win the FIFA World Cup.
France has played in the final of the world cup for the last two editions and were the champions in the 2018 world cup that was hosted in Russia. The majority number of France national team players are of African decent but chose to represent the France national team because football isn't valued in their respective African countries.

For Asian team have Japan is close candidate will be success in the future because many of their player are in the top European teams, difference with other Asian teams more spending and enjoying with domestic league and comfortable joining with their domestic league team than have to play for European teams. I think Asian have better performance than African teams and Asian teams more dominance in every World Cup edition.
No doubt with quality or level from European national teams like France have success managed to final stage on last edition but don't forget with opportunity from Argentina and Brazil will be candidate winning next World Cup.

If we look at the 2024 World Cup, we will see that the African teams performed much better than the Asian teams. Morocco is the first African country to play in the semi-finals of the World Cup. Korea Republic and Japan qualified for the next round in the last World Cup but were eliminated from the next round. African teams are financially weaker than Asian teams, this may be due to their poor performance. When a country is financially prosperous, then there will be good quality players in that country as well as experienced people in all other areas including coaching staff, but if there are financial problems, many people would want to make their living from football and in the hope of extra money income. The manager may take charge of another rich team. Basically all of these have an economic impact on a team.

I'm not saying Asian teams are better, but still, we know Morocco having a good performance in the last World Cup was a miracle and even the coaches and players in Morocco were not expecting to see their team in the semi-final match. The African teams are most don't have a good financial situation and they can't improve enough, also they have poor management systems,
I think expect to see another miracle from African teams in the 2026 World Cup.

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Quote from: armanda90 on September 18, 2023, 10:40:25 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on September 17, 2023, 03:54:26 AM

I don't know much about the possibility of Asian teams winning the FIFA World Cup in future time but I know that if African countries can manage the footballing talents in Africa and develop them to professional level, they have all it takes to win the FIFA World Cup.
France has played in the final of the world cup for the last two editions and were the champions in the 2018 world cup that was hosted in Russia. The majority number of France national team players are of African decent but chose to represent the France national team because football isn't valued in their respective African countries.

For Asian team have Japan is close candidate will be success in the future because many of their player are in the top European teams, difference with other Asian teams more spending and enjoying with domestic league and comfortable joining with their domestic league team than have to play for European teams. I think Asian have better performance than African teams and Asian teams more dominance in every World Cup edition.
No doubt with quality or level from European national teams like France have success managed to final stage on last edition but don't forget with opportunity from Argentina and Brazil will be candidate winning next World Cup.

If we look at the 2024 World Cup, we will see that the African teams performed much better than the Asian teams. Morocco is the first African country to play in the semi-finals of the World Cup. Korea Republic and Japan qualified for the next round in the last World Cup but were eliminated from the next round. African teams are financially weaker than Asian teams, this may be due to their poor performance. When a country is financially prosperous, then there will be good quality players in that country as well as experienced people in all other areas including coaching staff, but if there are financial problems, many people would want to make their living from football and in the hope of extra money income. The manager may take charge of another rich team. Basically all of these have an economic impact on a team.

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Quote from: armanda90 on September 18, 2023, 10:40:25 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on September 17, 2023, 03:54:26 AM

I don't know much about the possibility of Asian teams winning the FIFA World Cup in future time but I know that if African countries can manage the footballing talents in Africa and develop them to professional level, they have all it takes to win the FIFA World Cup.
France has played in the final of the world cup for the last two editions and were the champions in the 2018 world cup that was hosted in Russia. The majority number of France national team players are of African decent but chose to represent the France national team because football isn't valued in their respective African countries.

For Asian team have Japan is close candidate will be success in the future because many of their player are in the top European teams, difference with other Asian teams more spending and enjoying with domestic league and comfortable joining with their domestic league team than have to play for European teams. I think Asian have better performance than African teams and Asian teams more dominance in every World Cup edition.
No doubt with quality or level from European national teams like France have success managed to final stage on last edition but don't forget with opportunity from Argentina and Brazil will be candidate winning next World Cup.

Even if we consider Japan as a strong team in Asia and even if you think Japan had a good performance because of the game they won against Germany in the friendly match, but still Japan is not at the same level as other European teams that's why we can't expect to see Japan achieving something in the 2026 world cup however there is the chance for them to have better performance than before.

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Quote from: armanda90 on September 18, 2023, 10:40:25 PM

For Asian team have Japan is close candidate will be success in the future because many of their player are in the top European teams, difference with other Asian teams more spending and enjoying with domestic league and comfortable joining with their domestic league team than have to play for European teams. I think Asian have better performance than African teams and Asian teams more dominance in every World Cup edition.
No doubt with quality or level from European national teams like France have success managed to final stage on last edition but don't forget with opportunity from Argentina and Brazil will be candidate winning next World Cup.

If you look at the FIFA rankings, Japan is ranked 20th on the list of the best national teams. The top five are filled with Argentina, France, Brazil, England and Belgium, and Japan is the only national team representing the AFC zone in the top 20. Meanwhile, the CAF Zone has two representatives in the top 20, namely Morocco and Senegal. Thus, Japan chances in the future will certainly be brighter for future World Cup competitions i think.

It is true that many Japan players play in Europe with the best clubs, this is one of the reasons why they are so strong against Asian friends. However, if you look at these facts, the national team from the CAF region is better now than the AFC national team because it has two representatives there. If we talk about predictions, I will put Brazil in first place as the favorite for the upcoming 2026 World Cup edition.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 17, 2023, 03:54:26 AM

I don't know much about the possibility of Asian teams winning the FIFA World Cup in future time but I know that if African countries can manage the footballing talents in Africa and develop them to professional level, they have all it takes to win the FIFA World Cup.
France has played in the final of the world cup for the last two editions and were the champions in the 2018 world cup that was hosted in Russia. The majority number of France national team players are of African decent but chose to represent the France national team because football isn't valued in their respective African countries.

For Asian team have Japan is close candidate will be success in the future because many of their player are in the top European teams, difference with other Asian teams more spending and enjoying with domestic league and comfortable joining with their domestic league team than have to play for European teams. I think Asian have better performance than African teams and Asian teams more dominance in every World Cup edition.
No doubt with quality or level from European national teams like France have success managed to final stage on last edition but don't forget with opportunity from Argentina and Brazil will be candidate winning next World Cup.

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Quote from: shogun47 on September 18, 2023, 12:12:38 PM

Yes but technology will mostly assist with accuracy and fairness. Now that we have made this much progress from the least accuracy and fairness to very high accuracy and fairness, I don't expect much to change on that front. It could be improved by the millimeter for example, when the question arises whether the ball crossed the goal line or whether it should be a corner or throw in (I guess those will also be included in the future). Any improvements there would only have minor impact on future outcomes of the game. The hand of god would of course never have counted and it shouldn't because it is ridiculous. We want players to play at their maximum and that is why we need technological assistance to reduce human error.

I think more will happen with the players themselves. Longevity, physical advancement, both of which can lead to longer careers and hence to maybe new records as they have more games to play and can score more goals. I think it will be more changes on that end.

This is already happening, in most sports the rules have changed and the sport world itself is not as brutal as it was once, and this is helping athletes to have longer and better careers, and when we take into consideration the improvements on the medical science and training regimes this is allowing players to keep their maximum level for longer periods of time and become more dominant than other star players were on the past.

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There are many great players that never achieved stardom levels like Pele of Maradona. For example, in Brazil there was Rivaldo, one of the best players of that squad, but he never got the same recognition of Pele.

I think everyone remembers the bicycle kick goal of Rivaldo in the final though...

Rivaldo was a decent player there is no argument there, he was great when he played there but even when he played there people talked about Ronaldo a lot more, not Rivaldo, even though Ronaldo was far more frequently injured. Rivaldo was good, but he wasn't "I made this team win thanks to me" levels of good, he wasn't the type of player that would be good enough to decide the game or get them a cup all by his own talents.

Players like Neymar, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Luiz Nazario Ronaldo, Zidane, all these players were great enough that they could win something if you just put a bit of a decent squad next to them. This is why I believe that it has to be something that worths a lot for Rivaldo to get the same recognition.

I think there needs to be a lot of things to actually get recognition for a player. First of all, he has to be really good. Secondly, he has to have a flashy play style. And finally, he has to have good speaking skills.

Just look at the Ronaldo(CR7). At one point in his career, especially in the early stages. He did not even know how to speak English properly. But he was still moving the whole world around him, which is a flashy play style and of course the most iconic celebration ever in sports history. It was a definitely different feeling to see the whole stadium screaming SIUUUUU with Cristiano Ronaldo. I don't think that Rivaldo actually had anything like that about him. And there are a lot of great players in Brazil. Especially at that time, the whole team was full of star players. So it is very normal that some of them are going to get their recognition, meanwhile others won’t.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 18, 2023, 10:47:16 AM

Yes, that's how it is, very different. I will give an example to Maradona, for example. Who doesn't remember when his "hand of God" goal was at that time? I think if everyone experiences it, they will remember that incident. And if that happened in the current era then the goal wouldn't have happened, I mean when the game system becomes more advanced they will annul the goal with the help of VAR. Low of The Game, also different from now, right?
A player has his era based on his era at that time, and maybe in the future there will be a great new player emerging and being considered the best player of all time, even though he is in a different era.

Yes but technology will mostly assist with accuracy and fairness. Now that we have made this much progress from the least accuracy and fairness to very high accuracy and fairness, I don't expect much to change on that front. It could be improved by the millimeter for example, when the question arises whether the ball crossed the goal line or whether it should be a corner or throw in (I guess those will also be included in the future). Any improvements there would only have minor impact on future outcomes of the game. The hand of god would of course never have counted and it shouldn't because it is ridiculous. We want players to play at their maximum and that is why we need technological assistance to reduce human error.

I think more will happen with the players themselves. Longevity, physical advancement, both of which can lead to longer careers and hence to maybe new records as they have more games to play and can score more goals. I think it will be more changes on that end.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 17, 2023, 04:13:21 PM

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Years ago the whole football playing style was different and it was never the same as what we can currently see, that's why some plays like Maradona or Pele became popular because they saved a team by themselves. In fact, even if the whole team didn't perform well, they still could change the results.
But these days many teams have good strategies to control these players even if they are legendary players.

Yeah, and today Pele and Maradona are no longer with us. Most younger fans would have never seen them play, or in an interview, etc...

Maradona played his last games in the late 90s or early 00s, which is when some of the new fans were just born basically.

We are living in a new era of football. Maradona and Pele are ancient history. Not sure who will take over though, I think it's impossible to have someone at that level these days. It's all more competitive, and we have many great players instead of a few incredible ones.

Football has become more technical or scientific. Coaches now have to go to training schools where they acquire technical skills that will assist them in analyzing games to get the right results. It is now common to see coaches using technological tools like tablets, phones, and iPads during games. Those days most of these uncommon players are gifted. But it is common now to see players graduate from football academies where they have acquired relevant skills.

One can arguably say that players like Ronaldo and Messi can be compared with Maradona and Pele because they can give any team unexpected results with individual effort. Though Pele is the greatest Ronaldo and Messi can change any game. We can judge from the present performance of Messi in Inter Miami where his singular performance gave the club their first ever major cup.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 18, 2023, 09:58:08 AM

I think it's different, we can't compare players from different eras. Not only in the style of play, but also the rules of football, especially on the pitch there are also many differences now. Maradona and Pele are football legends, I don't deny that. The atmosphere on the pitch was much different then than now. I also see a difference in the way they defend for example, in the past defenders were very hard and not like this era.
The question is, if they were in the current era, would they be as famous? And also when today's players, such as the Ronaldo and Messi Era when playing in their era, can they perform well?

Well, one thing I've always believed and still believe is that, when it comes to football, players all have their seasons, and those seasons differs in terms of requirements and all that, for example, Pere's style of play made him a legend in his time/season, if he was still around and should use the same style of play which made him a legend in his time, in this season, I don't think he would be considered as a legend.

The thing is, it is commonly said that one thing that is common in life is change.. as time passes , many things are changing, and so it is with football, football is advancing and players are becoming more sophisticated, a football legend of this football era can not be compared to a football legend of the old era, to become a legend in this era requires more price and sacrifice, than the price and sacrifice required in the old era .

Yes, that's how it is, very different. I will give an example to Maradona, for example. Who doesn't remember when his "hand of God" goal was at that time? I think if everyone experiences it, they will remember that incident. And if that happened in the current era then the goal wouldn't have happened, I mean when the game system becomes more advanced they will annul the goal with the help of VAR. Low of The Game, also different from now, right?
A player has his era based on his era at that time, and maybe in the future there will be a great new player emerging and being considered the best player of all time, even though he is in a different era.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 17, 2023, 04:13:21 PM

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Years ago the whole football playing style was different and it was never the same as what we can currently see, that's why some plays like Maradona or Pele became popular because they saved a team by themselves. In fact, even if the whole team didn't perform well, they still could change the results.
But these days many teams have good strategies to control these players even if they are legendary players.

Yeah, and today Pele and Maradona are no longer with us. Most younger fans would have never seen them play, or in an interview, etc...

Maradona played his last games in the late 90s or early 00s, which is when some of the new fans were just born basically.

We are living in a new era of football. Maradona and Pele are ancient history. Not sure who will take over though, I think it's impossible to have someone at that level these days. It's all more competitive, and we have many great players instead of a few incredible ones.

I think it's different, we can't compare players from different eras. Not only in the style of play, but also the rules of football, especially on the pitch there are also many differences now. Maradona and Pele are football legends, I don't deny that. The atmosphere on the pitch was much different then than now. I also see a difference in the way they defend for example, in the past defenders were very hard and not like this era.
The question is, if they were in the current era, would they be as famous? And also when today's players, such as the Ronaldo and Messi Era when playing in their era, can they perform well?

Well, one thing I've always believed and still believe is that, when it comes to football, players all have their seasons, and those seasons differs in terms of requirements and all that, for example, Pere's style of play made him a legend in his time/season, if he was still around and should use the same style of play which made him a legend in his time, in this season, I don't think he would be considered as a legend.

The thing is, it is commonly said that one thing that is common in life is change.. as time passes , many things are changing, and so it is with football, football is advancing and players are becoming more sophisticated, a football legend of this football era can not be compared to a football legend of the old era, to become a legend in this era requires more price and sacrifice, than the price and sacrifice required in the old era .

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Quote from: nullama on September 17, 2023, 09:18:56 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 17, 2023, 04:13:21 PM

~snip~
Years ago the whole football playing style was different and it was never the same as what we can currently see, that's why some plays like Maradona or Pele became popular because they saved a team by themselves. In fact, even if the whole team didn't perform well, they still could change the results.
But these days many teams have good strategies to control these players even if they are legendary players.

Yeah, and today Pele and Maradona are no longer with us. Most younger fans would have never seen them play, or in an interview, etc...

Maradona played his last games in the late 90s or early 00s, which is when some of the new fans were just born basically.

We are living in a new era of football. Maradona and Pele are ancient history. Not sure who will take over though, I think it's impossible to have someone at that level these days. It's all more competitive, and we have many great players instead of a few incredible ones.

I think it's different, we can't compare players from different eras. Not only in the style of play, but also the rules of football, especially on the pitch there are also many differences now. Maradona and Pele are football legends, I don't deny that. The atmosphere on the pitch was much different then than now. I also see a difference in the way they defend for example, in the past defenders were very hard and not like this era.
The question is, if they were in the current era, would they be as famous? And also when today's players, such as the Ronaldo and Messi Era when playing in their era, can they perform well?

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 17, 2023, 04:13:21 PM

~snip~
Years ago the whole football playing style was different and it was never the same as what we can currently see, that's why some plays like Maradona or Pele became popular because they saved a team by themselves. In fact, even if the whole team didn't perform well, they still could change the results.
But these days many teams have good strategies to control these players even if they are legendary players.

Yeah, and today Pele and Maradona are no longer with us. Most younger fans would have never seen them play, or in an interview, etc...

Maradona played his last games in the late 90s or early 00s, which is when some of the new fans were just born basically.

We are living in a new era of football. Maradona and Pele are ancient history. Not sure who will take over though, I think it's impossible to have someone at that level these days. It's all more competitive, and we have many great players instead of a few incredible ones.

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I can easily say that Neymar could be compared to Ronaldo, but not Ronaldinho. The difference is that Ronaldo played at a great time of Brazil, but he was consistently injured too, but won some stuff with his team as well. I believe that Neymar is a great player too, but he is constantly injured as well.

Ronaldo could have been one of the best players in history if he didn't get injured this much, and Neymar could have been the best of his time as well if he didn't get this many injuries. Ronaldinho is a different type of player, he was a great player but he was also a showman as well, he just enjoyed playing football, it was fun for him, it wasn't being the best that he cared about, it was being loved and enjoyed.

There are many great players that never achieved stardom levels like Pele of Maradona. For example, in Brazil there was Rivaldo, one of the best players of that squad, but he never got the same recognition of Pele.

I think everyone remembers the bicycle kick goal of Rivaldo in the final though...

We should just accept the reality that in every era, there will be a star and we cannot really compare which is the best because even if we say it honestly, it's already biased as we already have our own preferences before we even get the chance to speak what we think. Sure, those players are good and will not be forgotten but the thing is, they are all a history now and the football will be revolving around the new players anymore and will give the limelight to the new ones. Those stars that we've mentioned, their time was already over, they were the best but only on their era as we cannot really tell what would happen if they had the chance to play in one single era.

Years ago the whole football playing style was different and it was never the same as what we can currently see, that's why some plays like Maradona or Pele became popular because they saved a team by themselves. In fact, even if the whole team didn't perform well, they still could change the results.
But these days many teams have good strategies to control these players even if they are legendary players.

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Quote from: nullama on September 14, 2023, 11:25:05 PM

There are many great players that never achieved stardom levels like Pele of Maradona. For example, in Brazil there was Rivaldo, one of the best players of that squad, but he never got the same recognition of Pele.

I think everyone remembers the bicycle kick goal of Rivaldo in the final though...

Rivaldo was a decent player there is no argument there, he was great when he played there but even when he played there people talked about Ronaldo a lot more, not Rivaldo, even though Ronaldo was far more frequently injured. Rivaldo was good, but he wasn't "I made this team win thanks to me" levels of good, he wasn't the type of player that would be good enough to decide the game or get them a cup all by his own talents.

Players like Neymar, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Luiz Nazario Ronaldo, Zidane, all these players were great enough that they could win something if you just put a bit of a decent squad next to them. This is why I believe that it has to be something that worths a lot for Rivaldo to get the same recognition.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 16, 2023, 12:21:46 PM

Talking about Asia and Asian teams in the World Cup maybe a team like Japan can have a good performance because of the players they have on good and top-level teams in Europe, but still, the fact about these teams is you can judge Germany or Japan just because of a single game and we know during the history of the world cup the Asian teams never achieved any title before. I think still there is no chance even for a team like Japan or South Korea to achieve anything.

We have to take a holistic view of this, Asian countries have yet to win a World Cup title, but we also have to see that they are progressing in that direction as Asian football continues to grow. If we go back 10 or 20 years, we wouldn't have seen the strength of Asia, but now they are better than ever.
Okay, so let's put aside Germany's crushing defeat to Japan in the last match, but we must also remember how many Asian countries can beat a powerhouse like Germany even in a friendly match?

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Japan or South Korea may not win a title at a World Cup anytime soon, but may I remind you that these times are certainly capable of kicking out renowned nations like Germany? Japan has beaten Germany and Spain in their group in Qatar and they finished the group as 1st in front of Spain and Germany, thereby sending Germany home.

South Korea tied their game against Uruguay and beat Portugal to then finish the group 2nd and send Uruguay home. Uruguay is not some amateur group from nowhere.

Of course they are not title favorites or anything like that, but they have to be taken seriously as teams that can give any other other team a hard time.

Now I agree with you, that maybe they won't be able to win a World Cup title in the near future, but I believe that it will happen in the future, as to when I can't say for sure.
I'm also not going to say that Asian countries like Japan have surpassed European countries in football, but again I'm saying that their progress is in that direction. I'm going to talk about distance now, if before the difference between Asian and European countries was rarely 10 for example, I think that difference has narrowed down and could be 6 to 8.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 15, 2023, 10:32:14 AM

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We should just accept the reality that in every era, there will be a star and we cannot really compare which is the best because even if we say it honestly, it's already biased as we already have our own preferences before we even get the chance to speak what we think. Sure, those players are good and will not be forgotten but the thing is, they are all a history now and the football will be revolving around the new players anymore and will give the limelight to the new ones. Those stars that we've mentioned, their time was already over, they were the best but only on their era as we cannot really tell what would happen if they had the chance to play in one single era.

Yeah, it's crazy to think about the fact that Maradona and Pele are both dead already. Most young people now will maybe only have heard about them, but never seen them play live.

Pele stopped playing a long time ago, but Maradona was still playing in the late 90s/early 00s... I guess that's a long time ago as well...

This thought made me feel so old Grin

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There are many things about football competition in Asia that still need better development and maybe a decade from now it won't be enough to make Asia even better in competing in the World Cup, in fact, I think Africa is still much better and has a greater chance of becoming champion. World Cup compared to Asia. More African football players play in Europe or other leagues on other continents, while there are still very few in Asia.
If Asia wants to compete better then the players must have the courage to leave their local league and experience tighter and more difficult competition like in Europe even though they only play in the second division.

However, Japan's victory over Germany is still an achievement and that's because Germany not only played badly but slightly underestimated their opponent. I saw the match and how the German defenders made movements that seemed to tease the Japanese players who they might see were shorter but one or two Japanese attacks were enough to destroy Germany at that time. Maybe that's a wrong assessment but currently Germany is not a strong team for a big competition unless there are big changes they make with their new coach later.

I would say that neither Asia nor Africa has a chance to win the world cup, considering teams from Europe and Latin America still end up being a lot better. Those nations have a football culture that dates back nearly hundred years, which means that they have a lot more chances to improve during that time.

Whereas if we are talking about Africa, that is a bit earlier than Asia, so they did their time and they are getting better, they have been getting better for a while now and I am assuming that the money football brings to them must be a good feeling. I feel like it is going to end up with Asia being the last one out there, it is going to take a while, but with more time, they will get better without a doubt.

I don't know much about the possibility of Asian teams winning the FIFA World Cup in future time but I know that if African countries can manage the footballing talents in Africa and develop them to professional level, they have all it takes to win the FIFA World Cup.
France has played in the final of the world cup for the last two editions and were the champions in the 2018 world cup that was hosted in Russia. The majority number of France national team players are of African decent but chose to represent the France national team because football isn't valued in their respective African countries.

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Quote from: beerlover on September 17, 2023, 03:11:28 AM

Quote from: Strongkored on September 16, 2023, 04:12:12 AM

There are many things about football competition in Asia that still need better development and maybe a decade from now it won't be enough to make Asia even better in competing in the World Cup, in fact, I think Africa is still much better and has a greater chance of becoming champion. World Cup compared to Asia. More African football players play in Europe or other leagues on other continents, while there are still very few in Asia.
If Asia wants to compete better then the players must have the courage to leave their local league and experience tighter and more difficult competition like in Europe even though they only play in the second division.

However, Japan's victory over Germany is still an achievement and that's because Germany not only played badly but slightly underestimated their opponent. I saw the match and how the German defenders made movements that seemed to tease the Japanese players who they might see were shorter but one or two Japanese attacks were enough to destroy Germany at that time. Maybe that's a wrong assessment but currently Germany is not a strong team for a big competition unless there are big changes they make with their new coach later.

I would say that neither Asia nor Africa has a chance to win the world cup, considering teams from Europe and Latin America still end up being a lot better. Those nations have a football culture that dates back nearly hundred years, which means that they have a lot more chances to improve during that time.

Whereas if we are talking about Africa, that is a bit earlier than Asia, so they did their time and they are getting better, they have been getting better for a while now and I am assuming that the money football brings to them must be a good feeling. I feel like it is going to end up with Asia being the last one out there, it is going to take a while, but with more time, they will get better without a doubt.

Senegal is the team that has gone the most far in the World Cup together with Ghana I think from Africa and they have done it much differently than Asian teams like Korea in 2002 which was helped by the referees against Italy.Of course these teams from these continents need a lot more improvement in order to be able to fight against European and Latin America teams although the level from these teams has lately only been in the increase.

No one knows when a team from such continents will be able to win the World Cup but I am pretty confident that it would take at least a couple of decades,may be after 2050 we will have one such winner as before that year I doubt it very much.

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