FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 217.

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Quote from: nullama on May 19, 2023, 09:33:22 PM

True, but still I think it's best to have the world cup in a single place. There are so many issues that appear when you host it in multiple countries, and also each country has it's own rules, and laws, visas, etc.

And at the end of the day most of the games will be played in the US anyway, so I'm not sure why Canada and Mexico wanted to be there. Maybe Canada wanted to finally be able to host it, but the other two already have done so in the past.

At least to me FIFA is giving a signal to other countries, they are basically saying we are not letting one of the most powerful countries around the world to hold the world cup on their own and they need to have partners to even have a chance to do it, and if any country wants to host the world cup on the future then they need to find partners as well in order to do so, so I think that from now on multiple hosts will become the norm and we will not see a single country hosting the world cup for a very long time.

I think that when it is hosted in a single country is better but usually FIFA has done so when the host country has some other countries near it that love football also,I remember in 2002 this was the case and the World Cup was held in Japan and South Korea and it had a lot of contention because of the referees favoring the host countries in a clamorous way,Italy lost 3-0 to South Korea something which was unimaginable until then.That is why I am more in favor when a single country is hosting the World Cup rather than holding it with other partners which can bring us to this non grateful situations where big teams are out of the play because of referees favoring home countries,it is much better when it is just one home country.

If the next World Cup is held in a few countries, it will actually be a novelty. This will give football fans a great travel experience. Besides, we will see some new things through organizing. The FIFA authorities should take the responsibility to ensure that we see something great from the World Cup in Qatar as they need to innovate with the times.

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Quote from: Silberman on May 19, 2023, 11:01:49 PM

Quote from: nullama on May 19, 2023, 09:33:22 PM

True, but still I think it's best to have the world cup in a single place. There are so many issues that appear when you host it in multiple countries, and also each country has it's own rules, and laws, visas, etc.

And at the end of the day most of the games will be played in the US anyway, so I'm not sure why Canada and Mexico wanted to be there. Maybe Canada wanted to finally be able to host it, but the other two already have done so in the past.

At least to me FIFA is giving a signal to other countries, they are basically saying we are not letting one of the most powerful countries around the world to hold the world cup on their own and they need to have partners to even have a chance to do it, and if any country wants to host the world cup on the future then they need to find partners as well in order to do so, so I think that from now on multiple hosts will become the norm and we will not see a single country hosting the world cup for a very long time.

I think that when it is hosted in a single country is better but usually FIFA has done so when the host country has some other countries near it that love football also,I remember in 2002 this was the case and the World Cup was held in Japan and South Korea and it had a lot of contention because of the referees favoring the host countries in a clamorous way,Italy lost 3-0 to South Korea something which was unimaginable until then.That is why I am more in favor when a single country is hosting the World Cup rather than holding it with other partners which can bring us to this non grateful situations where big teams are out of the play because of referees favoring home countries,it is much better when it is just one home country.

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Quote from: nullama on May 19, 2023, 09:33:22 PM

True, but still I think it's best to have the world cup in a single place. There are so many issues that appear when you host it in multiple countries, and also each country has it's own rules, and laws, visas, etc.

And at the end of the day most of the games will be played in the US anyway, so I'm not sure why Canada and Mexico wanted to be there. Maybe Canada wanted to finally be able to host it, but the other two already have done so in the past.

At least to me FIFA is giving a signal to other countries, they are basically saying we are not letting one of the most powerful countries around the world to hold the world cup on their own and they need to have partners to even have a chance to do it, and if any country wants to host the world cup on the future then they need to find partners as well in order to do so, so I think that from now on multiple hosts will become the norm and we will not see a single country hosting the world cup for a very long time.

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Quote from: Hispo on May 19, 2023, 08:00:38 PM

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I think it would certainly help smaller countries or countries with no economical resources to host the whole event to still be part of it. They would not need to invest so much in infrastructure, security or places to keep tourists happy, since all the event would eventually move to a neighbor country.

For example, Nepal and Mongolia are counties that by their own could not host a World Cup but they could if decided to co-host with China.

Of course, all of it would not be that easy, there are neighbor countries which have political and ideological disagreements among them, which would not allow them to coordinate such big event as orderly and quickly as it is supposed to. Whether we like it or not, when talk about more than one country, we need to think of geopolitics.

True, but still I think it's best to have the world cup in a single place. There are so many issues that appear when you host it in multiple countries, and also each country has it's own rules, and laws, visas, etc.

And at the end of the day most of the games will be played in the US anyway, so I'm not sure why Canada and Mexico wanted to be there. Maybe Canada wanted to finally be able to host it, but the other two already have done so in the past.

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Quote from: shogun47 on May 19, 2023, 06:59:42 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 19, 2023, 06:54:02 PM

Exactly, I think since we had an economic crisis in most of the countries and they don't have good situations it was a wise move to let a country like America host the world cup because they have enough potential to host the great events and even if Mexico and Canada were not co-hosting the world cup America could easily host the world cup by itself.

I doubt that this has anything to do with the economic crisis or with the pandemic as the bid to become the World Cup host was made in 2017. I think that the USA along with Mexico and Canada had the strongest application in the field. I don't know whether this trend that there will be joint co-hosting will continue in the future, but I am still an advocate of this decision. There are so many countries in the world and if you want to give most of them a fair chance to host a World Cup anytime soon, allowing for co-hosting makes a lot of sense.

I think it would certainly help smaller countries or countries with no economical resources to host the whole event to still be part of it. They would not need to invest so much in infrastructure, security or places to keep tourists happy, since all the event would eventually move to a neighbor country.

For example, Nepal and Mongolia are counties that by their own could not host a World Cup but they could if decided to co-host with China.

Of course, all of it would not be that easy, there are neighbor countries which have political and ideological disagreements among them, which would not allow them to coordinate such big event as orderly and quickly as it is supposed to. Whether we like it or not, when talk about more than one country, we need to think of geopolitics.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 19, 2023, 06:54:02 PM

Exactly, I think since we had an economic crisis in most of the countries and they don't have good situations it was a wise move to let a country like America host the world cup because they have enough potential to host the great events and even if Mexico and Canada were not co-hosting the world cup America could easily host the world cup by itself.

I doubt that this has anything to do with the economic crisis or with the pandemic as the bid to become the World Cup host was made in 2017. I think that the USA along with Mexico and Canada had the strongest application in the field. I don't know whether this trend that there will be joint co-hosting will continue in the future, but I am still an advocate of this decision. There are so many countries in the world and if you want to give most of them a fair chance to host a World Cup anytime soon, allowing for co-hosting makes a lot of sense.

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Quote from: n0ne on May 19, 2023, 06:18:19 PM

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 17, 2023, 01:57:24 PM

Yes, this is true, but there is a logical explanation for this - many residents of third world countries after entering the United States will "get lost" and stay there illegally. By the way, I don’t know how it is now, but earlier, for everyone entering the US legally, vaccination (from covid) was mandatory, and for illegal immigrants who crossed the border and demanded citizenship/asylum, there was no such requirement Grin

Thus, it was safer to enter the US illegally.

There are many people who think letting America host the 2026 world cup was a wrong decision and that they will have problems visiting this country to watch the World Cup games but I disagree and I think since America got the experience of hosting other great tournaments, they won't disappoint us and we are going to see a better world cup than what we saw in Qatar.

I am 100% sure that in terms of organization in the US everything will be at the top level. In terms of the quality of the competitions held (probably in all sports), this is the country No. 1 and, of course, they will also hold the World Cup at the highest level. But the problem with a visa is a problem of a different order, and there will definitely be dissatisfied people who, for one reason or another, will not be able to get it.

Hopefully, the FIFA council can find some ways to resolve this kind of problem because World Cup being a business, they sure want as many people as possible to see and watch the event because that will also mean that there's a lot of money that will flow to their pockets. Although I doubt that they can really fix it as this problem already falls down to the US and Canada's jurisdiction because safety and security must be ensured first.

But I'm sure it's up to America and Canada about how they want to organize the people who visit this country to watch the world cup games, FIFA let America host the 2026 world cup and that's why I'm sure they will find a way to solve this problem about getting a visa to this country and that's not the first time for America to host a great event like the world cup.

In the past America have hosted various events, when it comes to FIFA it gets the world's attention. Other major events will be mostly based on specific continent, so organising those events in a grand manner isn't a big thing for a country like America. When it comes to FIFA, it is to be considered about the travel, accomodation and particularly the cost. Just because more people are getting into the country everything could get hike in value. These are the responsibilities the governing body should consider so that people from all around the world reach America to watch football.

Exactly, I think since we had an economic crisis in most of the countries and they don't have good situations it was a wise move to let a country like America host the world cup because they have enough potential to host the great events and even if Mexico and Canada were not co-hosting the world cup America could easily host the world cup by itself.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 19, 2023, 04:52:55 PM

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 18, 2023, 01:48:22 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 18, 2023, 01:34:30 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on May 17, 2023, 01:57:24 PM

Yes, this is true, but there is a logical explanation for this - many residents of third world countries after entering the United States will "get lost" and stay there illegally. By the way, I don’t know how it is now, but earlier, for everyone entering the US legally, vaccination (from covid) was mandatory, and for illegal immigrants who crossed the border and demanded citizenship/asylum, there was no such requirement Grin

Thus, it was safer to enter the US illegally.

There are many people who think letting America host the 2026 world cup was a wrong decision and that they will have problems visiting this country to watch the World Cup games but I disagree and I think since America got the experience of hosting other great tournaments, they won't disappoint us and we are going to see a better world cup than what we saw in Qatar.

I am 100% sure that in terms of organization in the US everything will be at the top level. In terms of the quality of the competitions held (probably in all sports), this is the country No. 1 and, of course, they will also hold the World Cup at the highest level. But the problem with a visa is a problem of a different order, and there will definitely be dissatisfied people who, for one reason or another, will not be able to get it.

Hopefully, the FIFA council can find some ways to resolve this kind of problem because World Cup being a business, they sure want as many people as possible to see and watch the event because that will also mean that there's a lot of money that will flow to their pockets. Although I doubt that they can really fix it as this problem already falls down to the US and Canada's jurisdiction because safety and security must be ensured first.

But I'm sure it's up to America and Canada about how they want to organize the people who visit this country to watch the world cup games, FIFA let America host the 2026 world cup and that's why I'm sure they will find a way to solve this problem about getting a visa to this country and that's not the first time for America to host a great event like the world cup.

In the past America have hosted various events, when it comes to FIFA it gets the world's attention. Other major events will be mostly based on specific continent, so organising those events in a grand manner isn't a big thing for a country like America. When it comes to FIFA, it is to be considered about the travel, accomodation and particularly the cost. Just because more people are getting into the country everything could get hike in value. These are the responsibilities the governing body should consider so that people from all around the world reach America to watch football.

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Quote from: mirakal on May 19, 2023, 02:34:33 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on May 18, 2023, 01:48:22 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 18, 2023, 01:34:30 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on May 17, 2023, 01:57:24 PM

Yes, this is true, but there is a logical explanation for this - many residents of third world countries after entering the United States will "get lost" and stay there illegally. By the way, I don’t know how it is now, but earlier, for everyone entering the US legally, vaccination (from covid) was mandatory, and for illegal immigrants who crossed the border and demanded citizenship/asylum, there was no such requirement Grin

Thus, it was safer to enter the US illegally.

There are many people who think letting America host the 2026 world cup was a wrong decision and that they will have problems visiting this country to watch the World Cup games but I disagree and I think since America got the experience of hosting other great tournaments, they won't disappoint us and we are going to see a better world cup than what we saw in Qatar.

I am 100% sure that in terms of organization in the US everything will be at the top level. In terms of the quality of the competitions held (probably in all sports), this is the country No. 1 and, of course, they will also hold the World Cup at the highest level. But the problem with a visa is a problem of a different order, and there will definitely be dissatisfied people who, for one reason or another, will not be able to get it.

Hopefully, the FIFA council can find some ways to resolve this kind of problem because World Cup being a business, they sure want as many people as possible to see and watch the event because that will also mean that there's a lot of money that will flow to their pockets. Although I doubt that they can really fix it as this problem already falls down to the US and Canada's jurisdiction because safety and security must be ensured first.

But I'm sure it's up to America and Canada about how they want to organize the people who visit this country to watch the world cup games, FIFA let America host the 2026 world cup and that's why I'm sure they will find a way to solve this problem about getting a visa to this country and that's not the first time for America to host a great event like the world cup.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 18, 2023, 01:48:22 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 18, 2023, 01:34:30 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on May 17, 2023, 01:57:24 PM

Yes, this is true, but there is a logical explanation for this - many residents of third world countries after entering the United States will "get lost" and stay there illegally. By the way, I don’t know how it is now, but earlier, for everyone entering the US legally, vaccination (from covid) was mandatory, and for illegal immigrants who crossed the border and demanded citizenship/asylum, there was no such requirement Grin

Thus, it was safer to enter the US illegally.

There are many people who think letting America host the 2026 world cup was a wrong decision and that they will have problems visiting this country to watch the World Cup games but I disagree and I think since America got the experience of hosting other great tournaments, they won't disappoint us and we are going to see a better world cup than what we saw in Qatar.

I am 100% sure that in terms of organization in the US everything will be at the top level. In terms of the quality of the competitions held (probably in all sports), this is the country No. 1 and, of course, they will also hold the World Cup at the highest level. But the problem with a visa is a problem of a different order, and there will definitely be dissatisfied people who, for one reason or another, will not be able to get it.

Hopefully, the FIFA council can find some ways to resolve this kind of problem because World Cup being a business, they sure want as many people as possible to see and watch the event because that will also mean that there's a lot of money that will flow to their pockets. Although I doubt that they can really fix it as this problem already falls down to the US and Canada's jurisdiction because safety and security must be ensured first.

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Another relevant news: The FIFA President announced that the teams will be grouped by regions, to avoid long trips, at least in the initial phase.

Source and more info HERE

In my opinion this was already expected, but now it is official. We still don't have more information about how it will work and how many regions will be divided, but this already removes the doubt of those who were worried about the team having to cross the country to play a game in a few hours.

And just to remember, this is the map os stadiums so far:

Source

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Quote from: rdluffy on May 18, 2023, 07:03:24 PM

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Last night FIFA revealed the logo it will use for the 2026 World Cup.

What do you think?

Having an actual image of the trophy as part of a logo seems a bit silly.

That's a basic mistake in graphics design. It won't scale down nicely. Any logo should be a vector image.

Also, the number 26 looks obese basically. Maybe they are subtly trying to say something Cheesy

Yeap, that logo looks cheap. I am not a designer, but that looks cheap, when probably thousands were spent on design. Using black and white seems very simple. I think that is gonna look bad on posters at sunny days. And 26 looks shitty Cheesy

What is it about? Year 2026? 26th World Cup? 26 team participate ? Coloured version destroys my eyes Cheesy

Really bad combination of colours, as if I am on drugs or have licked hypnotoad from Futurama Grin

Lol oh God this logo is too much for eyes literally too many sharp colours striking our eyes and senses , if fifa wanted to represent countries or teams they should have opted for some pastels which might be soothing for eyes.
Anyways very creative and new logo .
And yes LGBTQ that is going to be a discussion in upcoming World cup.

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https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/canadamexicousa2026/host-cities <-- according to this, each city has its own colour and all 16 cities are presented by colour on that logo. But some colours are barely visible. Either we have just a small picture and on banners that "26" would look better, or designers have really failed. Without knowing, that each colour represent each stadium/city, many would think that this is a LGBTQ related banner.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 19, 2023, 04:56:47 AM

Yeap, that logo looks cheap. I am not a designer, but that looks cheap, when probably thousands were spent on design. Using black and white seems very simple. I think that is gonna look bad on posters at sunny days. And 26 looks shitty Cheesy

What is it about? Year 2026? 26th World Cup? 26 team participate ? Coloured version destroys my eyes Cheesy

Really bad combination of colours, as if I am on drugs or have licked hypnotoad from Futurama Grin

LOL.. looks as if they wanted to compensate for the anti-LGBT themes at the Qatar edition, and therefore created a rainbow themed logo. 2026 edition of the FIFA World Cup will be held in North America and it is expected that FIFA will receive around $6 billion in revenues from this event. They could have spent a few hundred USD to create a good logo. Any of the freelancers would have created a better design. Anyway, I still believe that these logos are very preliminary and FIFA will finalize on some good designs as the tournament approaches.

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Quote from: nullama on May 18, 2023, 08:55:36 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on May 18, 2023, 07:03:24 PM

~snip~
Last night FIFA revealed the logo it will use for the 2026 World Cup.

What do you think?

Having an actual image of the trophy as part of a logo seems a bit silly.

That's a basic mistake in graphics design. It won't scale down nicely. Any logo should be a vector image.

Also, the number 26 looks obese basically. Maybe they are subtly trying to say something Cheesy

Yeap, that logo looks cheap. I am not a designer, but that looks cheap, when probably thousands were spent on design. Using black and white seems very simple. I think that is gonna look bad on posters at sunny days. And 26 looks shitty Cheesy

What is it about? Year 2026? 26th World Cup? 26 team participate ? Coloured version destroys my eyes Cheesy

Really bad combination of colours, as if I am on drugs or have licked hypnotoad from Futurama Grin

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Quote from: Zlantann on May 18, 2023, 06:55:34 PM

The US 94 world cup was one of the best in the history of the world cup. It was outstanding in terms of sports facilities, fans' experiences, and financial support. There were no issues like workers' exploitation and other hitches experienced in the recently organized world cup. Fast forward from 1994 till date, many things have changes technologically and I am sure the US can surpass its records. But I am not 100% percent certain of what the 2026 world cup will look like based on their recent economic and political situations around the globe. But considering the current level of the US, the next world cup will still be the best. America has never disappointed expectant when it comes to hosting sporting competitions because they always exceed expectations. And the multicultural setting of the nations makes it an ideal place to host world competitions. Fans will have an exciting experience because America is like a home for all.

United States have undergone a lot of changes in 32 years. It is not the same country as it was in 1994. Visa rules have been tightened and in some cases visa applicants need to wait for up to 10 years to get a hearing. But one thing is sure. Unlike the case with Qatar 2022, we can be sure that there will be no exploitation of the laborers, and there will be no discrimination against the unmarried couples and LGBTs. But conducting a tournament across a geographical region spanning for 22 million sq.km will have it's own challenges.

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Quote from: rdluffy on May 18, 2023, 07:03:24 PM

~snip~
Last night FIFA revealed the logo it will use for the 2026 World Cup.

What do you think?

Having an actual image of the trophy as part of a logo seems a bit silly.

That's a basic mistake in graphics design. It won't scale down nicely. Any logo should be a vector image.

Also, the number 26 looks obese basically. Maybe they are subtly trying to say something Cheesy

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Last night FIFA revealed the logo it will use for the 2026 World Cup.

Source

What do you think?
It's basically the number 2026 and the image of the World Cup trophy.

And they also showed the logo on a colored background.

Source

I still need some time to understand the concept and the idea, I am researching here as well to see if there is more information about it.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 18, 2023, 01:48:22 PM

I am 100% sure that in terms of organization in the US everything will be at the top level. In terms of the quality of the competitions held (probably in all sports), this is the country No. 1 and, of course, they will also hold the World Cup at the highest level. But the problem with a visa is a problem of a different order, and there will definitely be dissatisfied people who, for one reason or another, will not be able to get it.

The US 94 world cup was one of the best in the history of the world cup. It was outstanding in terms of sports facilities, fans' experiences, and financial support. There were no issues like workers' exploitation and other hitches experienced in the recently organized world cup. Fast forward from 1994 till date, many things have changes technologically and I am sure the US can surpass its records. But I am not 100% percent certain of what the 2026 world cup will look like based on their recent economic and political situations around the globe. But considering the current level of the US, the next world cup will still be the best. America has never disappointed expectant when it comes to hosting sporting competitions because they always exceed expectations. And the multicultural setting of the nations makes it an ideal place to host world competitions. Fans will have an exciting experience because America is like a home for all.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 18, 2023, 04:31:50 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on May 18, 2023, 01:48:22 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 18, 2023, 01:34:30 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on May 17, 2023, 01:57:24 PM

Yes, this is true, but there is a logical explanation for this - many residents of third world countries after entering the United States will "get lost" and stay there illegally. By the way, I don’t know how it is now, but earlier, for everyone entering the US legally, vaccination (from covid) was mandatory, and for illegal immigrants who crossed the border and demanded citizenship/asylum, there was no such requirement Grin

Thus, it was safer to enter the US illegally.

There are many people who think letting America host the 2026 world cup was a wrong decision and that they will have problems visiting this country to watch the World Cup games but I disagree and I think since America got the experience of hosting other great tournaments, they won't disappoint us and we are going to see a better world cup than what we saw in Qatar.

I am 100% sure that in terms of organization in the US everything will be at the top level. In terms of the quality of the competitions held (probably in all sports), this is the country No. 1 and, of course, they will also hold the World Cup at the highest level. But the problem with a visa is a problem of a different order, and there will definitely be dissatisfied people who, for one reason or another, will not be able to get it.

One reason for us to make sure about the quality of the 2026 world cup is because America hosting this event, people from all over the world watch the games and since America wants to prove they still can host a great event with better quality than others countries, I think American will try to be a better host than Qatar.

We should also keep in mind there is a long path before reaching the 2026 year and many things can happen in a few years. If you are the kind of person who pay attention to the international news perhaps you have noticed how the political and economical landscape in the United States has been becoming more radical.

Sure, the USA has the resources to host a good event, but I am afraid the scenario for a World cup could degenerate fairly fast in these years, as more people keep an eye on the spending.

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