FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 239.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 14, 2023, 10:17:00 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on April 14, 2023, 09:12:27 PM

And I still believe that it is easier to travel and settle in American countries (besides being cheaper) than it was in Qatar.

Getting a hotel room in Qatar during the 2022 World Cup was insanely expensive, according to reports from many of the fans. On the plus side, getting a Qatari visa is relatively easy. But then, there are additional restrictions such as complete ban on unmarried and LGBT couples. Such couples are not allowed to stay together and need to book separate rooms. In the United States and the other two countries, there are no such restrictions. But getting a US visa is going to be hard, especially if you are from one of the third world nations. Mexico and Canada doesn't have too many restrictions on the visa, but these two countries are not going to host a lot many matches.

Unfortunately, it will be increasingly difficult for ordinary fans to personally participate in world cups and cheer on their national teams in the future, the financial costs will be astronomical for ordinary people.
Obviously, only rich fans, who have enough money and free time, and can easily get a visa, will be able to participate in world cups in the future.
In this way, FIFA will probably get rid of problematic fans who cause problems and do not spend much, and will get rich fans who spend a lot and do not cause problems at matches. Is this actually FIFA's long-term goal?

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They promised to have new rules for the world cup visitors because most people who come to this country don't same religion and traditions that's why forcing people to respect the hard rules is not a wise to move they forced people to somehow respect rules they don't have money but for the visitors who got enough money they can drink alcohol without problems, that's why I hope to don't see Qatar and similar countries hosting any special tournaments

I'm sure fans from the Middle East won't watch too much live at the 2026 World Cup later because they definitely won't feel comfortable when alcohol is allowed to drink freely by fans while watching live

Mutual respect for fellow fans is also very important, usually supporters from Latin America have slightly bad ethics and are very disturbing, I hope security can guarantee the safety of supporters who come from various ethnicities, races, cultures, religions

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 15, 2023, 02:40:10 AM

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In accordance with its customs and religious beliefs, Qatar enforced strict compliance. I surmise there were no ladies from Qatar permitted to watch those matches live. Prior to the start of the matches, beer was also banned. Despite the fact that the event was still a huge success, I doubt it will ever happen again due to the severe restrictions placed.

The upcoming World Cup will make it easier for European and American fans to get in. They may also be able to obtain a visa with ease and cheaper flights. Fans from Africa and Asia will have to travel a long distance in order to watch these matches and obtaining a visa will not be easy.

LOL.. the same lame excuse again and again. Qatar initially promised relaxed rules for the visitors and then they went back on their word. Initially they were saying that beer will be available during the duration of the match. Two days before the tournament started, they suddenly made an announcement that drinks will be available only for the top-tier ticket holders. If religion was the excuse to ban beer, then why the drinks were not banned for everyone? Reason is very simple. Qataris bother only about money and not about religion.

They promised to have new rules for the world cup visitors because most people who come to this country don't same religion and traditions that's why forcing people to respect the hard rules is not a wise to move they forced people to somehow respect rules they don't have money but for the visitors who got enough money they can drink alcohol without problems, that's why I hope to don't see Qatar and similar countries hosting any special tournaments

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Quote from: Getmon on April 15, 2023, 01:35:24 AM

In accordance with its customs and religious beliefs, Qatar enforced strict compliance. I surmise there were no ladies from Qatar permitted to watch those matches live. Prior to the start of the matches, beer was also banned. Despite the fact that the event was still a huge success, I doubt it will ever happen again due to the severe restrictions placed.

The upcoming World Cup will make it easier for European and American fans to get in. They may also be able to obtain a visa with ease and cheaper flights. Fans from Africa and Asia will have to travel a long distance in order to watch these matches and obtaining a visa will not be easy.

LOL.. the same lame excuse again and again. Qatar initially promised relaxed rules for the visitors and then they went back on their word. Initially they were saying that beer will be available during the duration of the match. Two days before the tournament started, they suddenly made an announcement that drinks will be available only for the top-tier ticket holders. If religion was the excuse to ban beer, then why the drinks were not banned for everyone? Reason is very simple. Qataris bother only about money and not about religion.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 14, 2023, 03:58:55 AM

Some time ago I heard that the U20 world cup failed to be held in Indonesia because FIFA decided to revoke Indonesia's name as the host due to problems that occurred in Indonesia.
Actually it would be a shame if Indonesia failed to host the U20 World Cup because the development of Indonesian football is actually quite good and Indonesia is also one of the countries with a good national football team in Asia.
Until now I have not heard which country will replace Indonesia and I am also still wondering why FIFA was able to pass a decision that Indonesia's name was revoked as the host of the U20 world cup.
Here does anyone hear and know the update on this U20 world cup issue.

Because I come from Indonesia of course it becomes a hot debate and it's quite sickening to see all the debates on television or the media because all the debates are only about politics and that's politics they don't understand sports they need to do what the majority likes because there will be elections in less than 2 years so that seeking the attention of the electorate is important even though in the end it sacrifices other things for things that are not even important.
The development of football in Indonesia is not as great as what you might get in the media, even in Asia it is still quite behind, so when Indonesia is no longer the host of the U-20 World Cup, it is actually a loss for this country's football, not FIFA or other participating countries because if we have to go through qualification the chance to advance is very slim or even impossible, because the football competition here is not as good as imagined.
If I'm not mistaken, Argentina replaces Indonesia and Argentina has quite an advantage because as far as I know, their U-20 national team did not qualify, so with this appointment, they will automatically qualify and play.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 14, 2023, 10:57:26 AM

Indonesia supports Palestine and they don't even have diplomatic relations with Israel. They didn't want Israel to come to this competition (idiots lol) and of course in the end they were denied the championship. It would be very strange if FIFA banned Israel because of the inadequate requirements of another country. The most moronic situation - what were they thinking in Indonesia when they wanted to host this competition? They thought that they themselves would distribute permits to participate in it?

Its not reason why Indonesian removed from FIFA World Cup U20 host due not inadequate infrastructure and security conditions after the Kanjurahan tragedy which resulted in the deaths of 130 fans. Beside has issues about politician reject Israel national due respect for Palestine and Indonesian has got consequence loss participants in FIFA World Cup U20. Should not mixing between football and political but seems different viewed what happen with Russian national team after suspending from UEFA and FIFA competition, not only with their national team but also all their club got suspend until right now.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 14, 2023, 10:17:00 PM

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And I still believe that it is easier to travel and settle in American countries (besides being cheaper) than it was in Qatar.

Getting a hotel room in Qatar during the 2022 World Cup was insanely expensive, according to reports from many of the fans. On the plus side, getting a Qatari visa is relatively easy. But then, there are additional restrictions such as complete ban on unmarried and LGBT couples. Such couples are not allowed to stay together and need to book separate rooms. In the United States and the other two countries, there are no such restrictions. But getting a US visa is going to be hard, especially if you are from one of the third world nations. Mexico and Canada doesn't have too many restrictions on the visa, but these two countries are not going to host a lot many matches.

In accordance with its customs and religious beliefs, Qatar enforced strict compliance. I surmise there were no ladies from Qatar permitted to watch those matches live. Prior to the start of the matches, beer was also banned. Despite the fact that the event was still a huge success, I doubt it will ever happen again due to the severe restrictions placed.

The upcoming World Cup will make it easier for European and American fans to get in. They may also be able to obtain a visa with ease and cheaper flights. Fans from Africa and Asia will have to travel a long distance in order to watch these matches and obtaining a visa will not be easy.

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Quote from: alegotardo on April 14, 2023, 09:12:27 PM

And I still believe that it is easier to travel and settle in American countries (besides being cheaper) than it was in Qatar.

Getting a hotel room in Qatar during the 2022 World Cup was insanely expensive, according to reports from many of the fans. On the plus side, getting a Qatari visa is relatively easy. But then, there are additional restrictions such as complete ban on unmarried and LGBT couples. Such couples are not allowed to stay together and need to book separate rooms. In the United States and the other two countries, there are no such restrictions. But getting a US visa is going to be hard, especially if you are from one of the third world nations. Mexico and Canada doesn't have too many restrictions on the visa, but these two countries are not going to host a lot many matches.

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Quote from: Vaculin on April 13, 2023, 02:02:26 PM

I don't know what's the reason behind why Qatar wanted to host World Cup because it's probably not the money they are after because they are already petrol nation which economic doesn't need some more boost as with or without World Cup, their nation is already rich enough. And I doubt if they after the tourist because from my perspective, they aren't much of a tourist friendly nation.

Qatar has a lot of money, in fact, but a country does not live on money alone.
Qatar needs to create business relationships, get closer to the world and that's why they always host the biggest events in the world.
Football was just one of them, but every month there are big matches of great importance in different areas that take place in Qatar.

Quote from: Cryptock on April 14, 2023, 03:58:51 PM

America is not so easy to travel - the visa issue is always a problem
on the other hand - Qatar is easiest to travel and they an amazing work in hosting the world cup - there is no doubt about it

I believe that the countries involved (mainly the United States) will make the requirements to obtain visas more flexible during the period in which the world cup matches will take place.
And I still believe that it is easier to travel and settle in American countries (besides being cheaper) than it was in Qatar.

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Qatar made the new try by hosting the FIFA World Cup Football, which was held during November 2022. Even though the Qatar had loss all the three matches of group stage matches, Qatar had earned huge support among other countries and their player had learn the game better now. Some news was spread about the Indonesia had lost his chance of Hosting World Cup. Indonesia had good team with huge players with international standard. Again the Argentina was the title winner of the 2022 FIFA World Cup. France had their huge try to win the third time winner Argentina and all their try was goes to the vein. The France should have a separate strategy for the Argentina to the World Cup title.

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I don't know what's the reason behind why Qatar wanted to host World Cup because it's probably not the money they are after because they are already petrol nation which economic doesn't need some more boost as with or without World Cup, their nation is already rich enough. And I doubt if they after the tourist because from my perspective, they aren't much of a tourist friendly nation.

I visited this country just once a few years ago and I can say Qatar is just a rich friendly country, if you have enough money you can enjoy in this country and do anything you want while for normal people it won't be a good experience while comparing to America here we are going to see the next world cup on it you have luxury hotels and mostly I see rich people visit this country, but in America even if you don't have enough money you have your stay in that country which can be good for the people who go America for the world cup.

Nothing surprising though, America and Qatar should never be the same, and I am happy they are not, America is the world power, and as such, it is just morally normal that it should be able to accommodate visitors from other parts of the world, no matter what their financial capacity is like.
If all things were to be normal, America, to me, is supposed to be one of the easiest countries to travel to, since it is a country several other countries look up to, but it's rather unfortunate that, the revise is the case if we begin to compare.

America is not so easy to travel - the visa issue is always a problem
on the other hand - Qatar is easiest to travel and they an amazing work in hosting the world cup - there is no doubt about it

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 14, 2023, 05:30:30 AM

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I don't know what's the reason behind why Qatar wanted to host World Cup because it's probably not the money they are after because they are already petrol nation which economic doesn't need some more boost as with or without World Cup, their nation is already rich enough. And I doubt if they after the tourist because from my perspective, they aren't much of a tourist friendly nation.

I visited this country just once a few years ago and I can say Qatar is just a rich friendly country, if you have enough money you can enjoy in this country and do anything you want while for normal people it won't be a good experience while comparing to America here we are going to see the next world cup on it you have luxury hotels and mostly I see rich people visit this country, but in America even if you don't have enough money you have your stay in that country which can be good for the people who go America for the world cup.

Now we will see if Canada - USA and Mexico will beat the host Qatar.
You are correct - Qatar is rich country and they were not greedy for the money. They wanted to be great host and that is the whole essence

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 14, 2023, 05:30:30 AM

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I don't know what's the reason behind why Qatar wanted to host World Cup because it's probably not the money they are after because they are already petrol nation which economic doesn't need some more boost as with or without World Cup, their nation is already rich enough. And I doubt if they after the tourist because from my perspective, they aren't much of a tourist friendly nation.

I visited this country just once a few years ago and I can say Qatar is just a rich friendly country, if you have enough money you can enjoy in this country and do anything you want while for normal people it won't be a good experience while comparing to America here we are going to see the next world cup on it you have luxury hotels and mostly I see rich people visit this country, but in America even if you don't have enough money you have your stay in that country which can be good for the people who go America for the world cup.

Nothing surprising though, America and Qatar should never be the same, and I am happy they are not, America is the world power, and as such, it is just morally normal that it should be able to accommodate visitors from other parts of the world, no matter what their financial capacity is like.
If all things were to be normal, America, to me, is supposed to be one of the easiest countries to travel to, since it is a country several other countries look up to, but it's rather unfortunate that, the revise is the case if we begin to compare.

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You need to find a culture that accepts football as it is to make it happen and make it work. I have to say pick the world cup hosts from the top 20 ranked teams in the world, and I bet that you are going to be doing fine. Look at the top 20 leagues of the world and you will see where the world cup should be held, it will definitely be better that way.

In fact, the world cup is not just what sometimes you watch on TV at home you are watching the World cup games from home you will not understand how much money is spent on the world cup when they could spend the money on a good cause and how many workers died there, that what we saw in Qatar world cup and I think letting a country like Qatar host the world cup was not a good decision while in next world cup, we are going to see the difference.

I don't know what's the reason behind why Qatar wanted to host World Cup because it's probably not the money they are after because they are already petrol nation which economic doesn't need some more boost as with or without World Cup, their nation is already rich enough. And I doubt if they after the tourist because from my perspective, they aren't much of a tourist friendly nation.

Human rights violation is the major thing that had raised questions against Qatar, but nothing is taken seriously. The country hide everything and for that reason Qatar should be given atleast some penalty. The country doesn't have much history of football, however it received the hosting rights through bribe. Now once again it had requested for the hosting rights of U-19 World Cup.

Which is not that surprising anymore, really. Even if a lot of people are questioning what happened in the recent World Cup, nobody on the victim's side would dare to stand up and testify what happened because they already knew what will be the outcome as they will be facing someone who is influential enough to dismiss the case right away. Moreover, I believe that the victims were already paid for their silence and in time, all this mess that was created will be forgotten as it cools down.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 13, 2023, 03:31:46 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on April 13, 2023, 02:02:26 PM

I don't know what's the reason behind why Qatar wanted to host World Cup because it's probably not the money they are after because they are already petrol nation which economic doesn't need some more boost as with or without World Cup, their nation is already rich enough. And I doubt if they after the tourist because from my perspective, they aren't much of a tourist friendly nation.

When you have endless money, then you want something intangible like fame, world recognition, etc. Otherwise, why are these sheikhs competing in crazy projects (including buying up European football clubs)? It was something from the same area. It's not economics, it's closer to politics where rational considerations don't work.

It is not only politics, or at least it is just a part of all of this, countries which are rich on oil and which depend on it to sustain their economies know very well that one day such bonanza is going to run out, so they need another source of income for their countries and they cannot wait until that day comes as it would be late at that point, so they are trying to build their countries as touristic attractions and for that they need to spread the awareness of their countries, and Qatar found on the world cup a way to do this, after all there have been studies made which demonstrate many people cannot even find their own country on a map, then how we can expect those same people to know where Qatar is unless they did something extraordinary like hosting the world cup?

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Human rights violation is the major thing that had raised questions against Qatar, but nothing is taken seriously. The country hide everything and for that reason Qatar should be given atleast some penalty. The country doesn't have much history of football, however it received the hosting rights through bribe. Now once again it had requested for the hosting rights of U-19 World Cup.

If it is not taken seriously, it means that they do not have strong evidence to bring this case to an international court. after all, the Qatar world cup ended and was a success. Then, why are these issues still being debated? even if it is true that there has been a violation of human rights, then this case will be revealed immediately. to be honest, I'm not pro Qatar, but what happened in the Qatar world cup is always associated with politics.

Let's remember, when the hoax was spread that Qatar had paid the Ecuador team to lose the opening match. this issue is very much sticking out, but in fact, Ecuador toppled Qatar. well, what about the people who spread this false news. in fact, they are not held accountable for what they do. So far, we've only heard from the news, journalists, or all kinds of things, but the fact is, no one has been able to reveal it. I know a little, that Qatar's politics is experiencing a hot situation with other Middle Eastern countries.

What I want to say here, come on let's let the people in authority take care of the matter, regardless of whether it's true or not. so, let's discuss more about football.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 14, 2023, 03:58:55 AM

Some time ago I heard that the U20 world cup failed to be held in Indonesia because FIFA decided to revoke Indonesia's name as the host due to problems that occurred in Indonesia.
Actually it would be a shame if Indonesia failed to host the U20 World Cup because the development of Indonesian football is actually quite good and Indonesia is also one of the countries with a good national football team in Asia.
Until now I have not heard which country will replace Indonesia and I am also still wondering why FIFA was able to pass a decision that Indonesia's name was revoked as the host of the U20 world cup.
Here does anyone hear and know the update on this U20 world cup issue.

Indonesia supports Palestine and they don't even have diplomatic relations with Israel. They didn't want Israel to come to this competition (idiots lol) and of course in the end they were denied the championship. It would be very strange if FIFA banned Israel because of the inadequate requirements of another country. The most moronic situation - what were they thinking in Indonesia when they wanted to host this competition? They thought that they themselves would distribute permits to participate in it?

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 14, 2023, 05:30:30 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on April 13, 2023, 02:02:26 PM

I don't know what's the reason behind why Qatar wanted to host World Cup because it's probably not the money they are after because they are already petrol nation which economic doesn't need some more boost as with or without World Cup, their nation is already rich enough. And I doubt if they after the tourist because from my perspective, they aren't much of a tourist friendly nation.

I visited this country just once a few years ago and I can say Qatar is just a rich friendly country, if you have enough money you can enjoy in this country and do anything you want while for normal people it won't be a good experience while comparing to America here we are going to see the next world cup on it you have luxury hotels and mostly I see rich people visit this country, but in America even if you don't have enough money you have your stay in that country which can be good for the people who go America for the world cup.

I think when you can do whatever you want as a tourist with money whereas the regular common people can't, that doesn't feel like a country I would love to visit.

This isn't anything regarding religion or anything, by same logic I never want to visit Thailand and you can "do" many things there that you can't do in Qatar, I mean as free as it gets and it's cheap and it allows people to do so many things, so as you can see there is a huge difference in that regard, religiously I mean, and culturally, they literally have fame about being able to "do" anything. And yet I wouldn't want to visit. Because when rich tourists are capable of doing all those things and living a great life there, common people can't, and I am against that.

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Quote from: Vaculin on April 13, 2023, 02:02:26 PM

I don't know what's the reason behind why Qatar wanted to host World Cup because it's probably not the money they are after because they are already petrol nation which economic doesn't need some more boost as with or without World Cup, their nation is already rich enough. And I doubt if they after the tourist because from my perspective, they aren't much of a tourist friendly nation.

I visited this country just once a few years ago and I can say Qatar is just a rich friendly country, if you have enough money you can enjoy in this country and do anything you want while for normal people it won't be a good experience while comparing to America here we are going to see the next world cup on it you have luxury hotels and mostly I see rich people visit this country, but in America even if you don't have enough money you have your stay in that country which can be good for the people who go America for the world cup.

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Some time ago I heard that the U20 world cup failed to be held in Indonesia because FIFA decided to revoke Indonesia's name as the host due to problems that occurred in Indonesia.
Actually it would be a shame if Indonesia failed to host the U20 World Cup because the development of Indonesian football is actually quite good and Indonesia is also one of the countries with a good national football team in Asia.
Until now I have not heard which country will replace Indonesia and I am also still wondering why FIFA was able to pass a decision that Indonesia's name was revoked as the host of the U20 world cup.
Here does anyone hear and know the update on this U20 world cup issue.

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