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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 05, 2023, 02:12:59 AM

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But Saudi Arabia won against the current champions, Argentina. That might give them a boost in the selection process.

It was perhaps the most unexpected result during Qatar 2022. No one expected Argentina to go down against Saudi Arabia, and that too in their first match. But to their credit, Argentina recovered well, and never lost another match in the tournament. Saudi Arabia on the other hand failed to qualify for the round of 16. But then, the edition of 2022 was full of surprises. Brazil lost to Cameroon, France lost to Tunisia, Germany lost to Japan and so on. I just hope that in 2026 also we will be able to witness similar upsets.

In football, we can usually see many unexpecting results like this one between Argentina and Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia is not even the strongest team in Asia, and even the Saudi Arabia fans were waiting for the team take to have another result and a draw but they won and we saw other results like this one Germany lost to Japan and that's one good thing we usually see in the world cups, not spring to see these results again in 2026 world cup.

This is common in football, especially if it is a big match at the World Cup, not only the match between Argentina and Saudi Arabia gave many surprises, but many matches ended with scores that were not predicted beforehand. These surprising things are the main attraction in the world of football, no matter how far the difference between the two teams that are competing, if they are unlucky they will get defeat. But we will see in the end that Argentina can still get up and then come out as champions in the World Cup.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 03, 2023, 09:32:05 PM

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But Saudi Arabia won against the current champions, Argentina. That might give them a boost in the selection process.

It was perhaps the most unexpected result during Qatar 2022. No one expected Argentina to go down against Saudi Arabia, and that too in their first match. But to their credit, Argentina recovered well, and never lost another match in the tournament. Saudi Arabia on the other hand failed to qualify for the round of 16. But then, the edition of 2022 was full of surprises. Brazil lost to Cameroon, France lost to Tunisia, Germany lost to Japan and so on. I just hope that in 2026 also we will be able to witness similar upsets.

That's the luck of Qatar when they had one of the best games in any world cup we have seen. I mean surely there must have been some other world cup with great results as well, but for example this final has been one of the best finals we have ever seen.

A 2-2 ending with 2 goals from France coming in the last 12 minutes, then 1-1 on overtime when both teams scored, a last minute near impossible save by Martinez on the very last seconds of the game, and then penalties that were amazing to watch as well. All in all it felt like it was the best game I have seen in a long time, not just in a world cup but I haven't seen a game that hyped for a long time, everyone felt joy when watching it, if you are a football fan, you loved that game without a doubt, no matter who you rooted for.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 03, 2023, 09:32:05 PM

Quote from: nullama on May 03, 2023, 06:08:09 PM

But Saudi Arabia won against the current champions, Argentina. That might give them a boost in the selection process.

It was perhaps the most unexpected result during Qatar 2022. No one expected Argentina to go down against Saudi Arabia, and that too in their first match. But to their credit, Argentina recovered well, and never lost another match in the tournament. Saudi Arabia on the other hand failed to qualify for the round of 16. But then, the edition of 2022 was full of surprises. Brazil lost to Cameroon, France lost to Tunisia, Germany lost to Japan and so on. I just hope that in 2026 also we will be able to witness similar upsets.

In football, we can usually see many unexpecting results like this one between Argentina and Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia is not even the strongest team in Asia, and even the Saudi Arabia fans were waiting for the team take to have another result and a draw but they won and we saw other results like this one Germany lost to Japan and that's one good thing we usually see in the world cups, not spring to see these results again in 2026 world cup.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2023, 09:20:13 PM

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Well, you are right, alcohol and sports do go hand in hand, though not for the players Grin

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I also do not think alcohol will be banned completely in the sports arena, but I do expect it to happen on some special occasions, like what we saw in Qatar last year, but I believe there won't be such ban in 2026 world cup, being that USA, Canada, Mexico, are countries that are known for high standards, and I believe the citizens are more civilized than citizens of most other countries, coupled with their tight security system, making sure all go Well shouldn't be a hassle, even with alcohol present in the stadium.

Even for the 2026 World Cup, I don't think that alcoholic beverages other than beer will be available at the stadiums. And ever since I have started watching football, I have never witnessed any issue related to alcohol during the matches. In western nations, people know how to behave themselves after taking alcohol. And in the third world nations, there is a blanket ban on such beverages. Anyway, I am of the opinion that the authorities should not tell to ordinary people what they should eat or drink. Whether or not to consume alcohol should be a decision to be made by the fans themselves.

Agreed. People should be masters of their culinary destiny. Who can argue with personal choice? Yet, when pondering libations at football matches, I find myself in a conundrum. Personally, alcohol-related issues remain unseen; hence, banning anything beyond beer feels excessive.

Conversely, apprehensions surrounding safety and minors imbibing are valid. Uniformity is fair, so if some countries enforce bans, should we not align? Ultimately, the crux lies in harmonizing personal liberty with collective security. Although I resist a sweeping prohibition on non-beer spirits, embracing diverse perspectives to forge a fitting compromise is paramount.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on May 04, 2023, 04:22:24 PM

Well, you are right, alcohol and sports do go hand in hand, though not for the players Grin

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I also do not think alcohol will be banned completely in the sports arena, but I do expect it to happen on some special occasions, like what we saw in Qatar last year, but I believe there won't be such ban in 2026 world cup, being that USA, Canada, Mexico, are countries that are known for high standards, and I believe the citizens are more civilized than citizens of most other countries, coupled with their tight security system, making sure all go Well shouldn't be a hassle, even with alcohol present in the stadium.

Even for the 2026 World Cup, I don't think that alcoholic beverages other than beer will be available at the stadiums. And ever since I have started watching football, I have never witnessed any issue related to alcohol during the matches. In western nations, people know how to behave themselves after taking alcohol. And in the third world nations, there is a blanket ban on such beverages. Anyway, I am of the opinion that the authorities should not tell to ordinary people what they should eat or drink. Whether or not to consume alcohol should be a decision to be made by the fans themselves.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 29, 2023, 07:30:21 PM

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I think that things are better without alcohol, alcohol sometimes makes people lose control, sometimes freedoms can turn into tragedies if they are Abused, because this becomes Licentiousness and that is not good, always that there is alcohol associated with it, sometimes they can kill and they don't remember what they did, and then if so, how is it left after a misfortune occurs?I think that the healthiest thing here is that in the next World Cup there will be no alcoholic beverages,but it is difficult to Control,and if they have those Freedoms,then more problems can be generated.

The main countries of the world cup are from Europe and South America.

Those countries usually have alcohol as part of their culture. Therefore, I don't think the world cup will remove alcohol any time soon.

Plus, they have sponsors from alcoholic companies, so there's almost no chance of having a world cup free of alcohol.

good take nullama
the alcohol companies are among the ones who have the biggest profits, and soccer rhymes with beer
so I'd bet we won't see alcohol being forbidden in soccer games anytime soon

maybe in one or two countries with more strict rules or more religious, but in general, no.

Well, you are right, alcohol and sports do go hand in hand, though not for the players Grin

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I also do not think alcohol will be banned completely in the sports arena, but I do expect it to happen on some special occasions, like what we saw in Qatar last year, but I believe there won't be such ban in 2026 world cup, being that USA, Canada, Mexico, are countries that are known for high standards, and I believe the citizens are more civilized than citizens of most other countries, coupled with their tight security system, making sure all go Well shouldn't be a hassle, even with alcohol present in the stadium.

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2030 is being chased by Saudi Arabia, one of the main reasons why they got Ronaldo as well, they want Ronaldo to basically talk about how it would be great to host it. When you consider how much money nations can make from world cup, billions and billions of dollars, if paying Ronaldo 200-300 million to get it, then it would be totally worth it. They are in fact considering about a lot more people, Messi, Mourinho and all that which would be a great deal and definitely could be considered a great idea.

I understand that it will not be cheap and they may lose, but they are going to end up trying at least. Would it be too bad? I am not so sure, but I bet 100% that there are better nations suited for something like that without a doubt. I miss England hosting it, that would be lovely to see again.

Interesting.

I'm not sure it was the best to have the world cup in Qatar, but in the end it was actually quite entertaining overall. Bu the host team didn't manage to even perform at a minimum level, they should not have qualified.

But Saudi Arabia won against the current champions, Argentina. That might give them a boost in the selection process.

Well, yes, that is one of the few reasons why Saudi Arabia acquired Cristiano Ronaldo despite his humungous talent fee, it's a gamble they can take for sure in-exchange for the bigger picture that they are trying to project and of course, make it happen soon enough knowing that the country got a vast resources just waiting to be used.

Just a little fact, even the government are turning a blind eye for Cristiano Ronaldo's situation because right now, Saudi Arabia is in the middle of controversy because the citizens are not happy with the situation where the couple is literally breaking a law for sleeping with each other in one single house even if they are not married to each other.

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I think that things are better without alcohol, alcohol sometimes makes people lose control, sometimes freedoms can turn into tragedies if they are Abused, because this becomes Licentiousness and that is not good, always that there is alcohol associated with it, sometimes they can kill and they don't remember what they did, and then if so, how is it left after a misfortune occurs?I think that the healthiest thing here is that in the next World Cup there will be no alcoholic beverages,but it is difficult to Control,and if they have those Freedoms,then more problems can be generated.

The main countries of the world cup are from Europe and South America.

Those countries usually have alcohol as part of their culture. Therefore, I don't think the world cup will remove alcohol any time soon.

Plus, they have sponsors from alcoholic companies, so there's almost no chance of having a world cup free of alcohol.

good take nullama
the alcohol companies are among the ones who have the biggest profits, and soccer rhymes with beer
so I'd bet we won't see alcohol being forbidden in soccer games anytime soon

maybe in one or two countries with more strict rules or more religious, but in general, no.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on May 03, 2023, 02:46:20 PM

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2030 is being chased by Saudi Arabia, one of the main reasons why they got Ronaldo as well, they want Ronaldo to basically talk about how it would be great to host it. When you consider how much money nations can make from world cup, billions and billions of dollars, if paying Ronaldo 200-300 million to get it, then it would be totally worth it. They are in fact considering about a lot more people, Messi, Mourinho and all that which would be a great deal and definitely could be considered a great idea.

I understand that it will not be cheap and they may lose, but they are going to end up trying at least. Would it be too bad? I am not so sure, but I bet 100% that there are better nations suited for something like that without a doubt. I miss England hosting it, that would be lovely to see again.

Interesting.

I'm not sure it was the best to have the world cup in Qatar, but in the end it was actually quite entertaining overall. Bu the host team didn't manage to even perform at a minimum level, they should not have qualified.

But Saudi Arabia won against the current champions, Argentina. That might give them a boost in the selection process.

I think a country like Saudi Arabia knows how to be the next host for the world cup, compared to America and the other hosts in 2026 they don't have enough sports facilities but they can invest much more for the world cup with can help them to spend even much more than Qatar, But I think the next world cup in America will be a better experience than Qatar or other Asian countries.

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Quote from: nullama on May 03, 2023, 06:08:09 PM

But Saudi Arabia won against the current champions, Argentina. That might give them a boost in the selection process.

It was perhaps the most unexpected result during Qatar 2022. No one expected Argentina to go down against Saudi Arabia, and that too in their first match. But to their credit, Argentina recovered well, and never lost another match in the tournament. Saudi Arabia on the other hand failed to qualify for the round of 16. But then, the edition of 2022 was full of surprises. Brazil lost to Cameroon, France lost to Tunisia, Germany lost to Japan and so on. I just hope that in 2026 also we will be able to witness similar upsets.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on May 03, 2023, 02:46:20 PM

~snip~
2030 is being chased by Saudi Arabia, one of the main reasons why they got Ronaldo as well, they want Ronaldo to basically talk about how it would be great to host it. When you consider how much money nations can make from world cup, billions and billions of dollars, if paying Ronaldo 200-300 million to get it, then it would be totally worth it. They are in fact considering about a lot more people, Messi, Mourinho and all that which would be a great deal and definitely could be considered a great idea.

I understand that it will not be cheap and they may lose, but they are going to end up trying at least. Would it be too bad? I am not so sure, but I bet 100% that there are better nations suited for something like that without a doubt. I miss England hosting it, that would be lovely to see again.

Interesting.

I'm not sure it was the best to have the world cup in Qatar, but in the end it was actually quite entertaining overall. Bu the host team didn't manage to even perform at a minimum level, they should not have qualified.

But Saudi Arabia won against the current champions, Argentina. That might give them a boost in the selection process.

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Quote from: Fiatless on May 03, 2023, 03:08:35 AM

If FIFA wants to kill the excitement and the glamour of the world cup let them allow any Islamic country to host the next competition. The complaints of violation of human rights, exploitation of workers, and stringent condition placed on football fans are still fresh in the memory of the world, so they should let us heal from these traumatic experience. These issues were fuelled by the kind of political system these countries operates. These nations are ruled by autocratic leaders that control the press, economy, and all sectors of the country.

The next four world cups should be hosted by democratic nations that promote the freedom of all citizens. Football fans should be able to enjoy the world cup without restriction. A country where workers will be protected from harm and paid based on the stipulated minimum wage. For now, no nation in the Middle East should host the world cup unless there is a concrete agreement to handle these issues.

2030 is being chased by Saudi Arabia, one of the main reasons why they got Ronaldo as well, they want Ronaldo to basically talk about how it would be great to host it. When you consider how much money nations can make from world cup, billions and billions of dollars, if paying Ronaldo 200-300 million to get it, then it would be totally worth it. They are in fact considering about a lot more people, Messi, Mourinho and all that which would be a great deal and definitely could be considered a great idea.

I understand that it will not be cheap and they may lose, but they are going to end up trying at least. Would it be too bad? I am not so sure, but I bet 100% that there are better nations suited for something like that without a doubt. I miss England hosting it, that would be lovely to see again.

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I exactly think the same way about allowing these countries to host great tournaments, that's simple they don't have enough facilities and that's not a wise move to let a country without enough facilities host the world cup because there will be consequences even after hosting the world cup, many people are unhappy about the time they spent in Qatar.

That never really mattered to them at all. Qatar is seen "fine" by the west because they can get love from them, Qatar may act as if they do like western people or at least the ones at the top could, but in theory there is really nothing that different fundamentally between Qatar and North Korea, sure the media will make you believe there is, but this is the same nation that thousands of people died to build these stadiums and other stuff so they can host World Cup.

The only thing Fifa cares about is money, if you pay them the bribe you should, then you are going to have the world cup. I am sure North Korea could pay a lot and still won't have it, but they do not really care about anything else, they just care about the money. Saudi Arabia is not democracy for example, they have nepotism and dictatorship, so one family rules it with iron fist, no elections, and if they pay the bribe, they can host it too.

Now Imagine some people think Saudi Arabia can be a good host for the next world cup after 2026, there we are going to see the same story we saw in Qatar and even worst than Qatar because they have more complicated rules.
That's why I think choosing America as the world cup host was a good move because there they have more freedom and people who visit this country will not have the same problems they had in Qatar.

That is one of the few reasons why the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia didn't win the bid and was not chosen by the FIFA congress to host the next world cup after 2026, there was some saying that Saudi Arabia will join forces with Egypt and Greece to host the 2030 WC but that wasn't pushed through because of what happened in the recent World Cup 2023 where people weren't that much happy because they are not that free to do what they wanted because there are rules that needed to be observed which is common in a Muslim country. But Saudi Arabia wasn't really disappointed because the FIFA gave them the right to host the 2027 Asian Cup.

Hosting the Asian Cup is another story and it's not the same as the world cup, we know Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country and if they host the world cup there will be even harder rules than Qatar there, that's why I think letting this country host the world cup is not what FIFA wants, while since they spent a lot of money to reach everything they want I won't be surprised if I see them host the world cup just because they have enough money for it.

There might be some reasons behind that though because why would FIFA or should I say the FIFA congress give the right to Saudi Arabia to host the Asian Cup if it's not for the greater good. Right? We might not know it but we know that it's kind of connected about money. Moreover, FIFA doesn't have the sole right to choose whoever will host the next World Cup because they've got a process in-order to rule out any bias, a vote will be casted inside the FIFA congress before they can start and select who will be next host.

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Quote from: swogerino on May 03, 2023, 11:14:29 AM

There were alcohol for the fans even in Qatar as Qatar knows they restrict many things as they are a Muslim country but they are not extremists and so deep underground for anyone who wanted alcohol could easily find it,for everyone who wanted hookers could easily find them during their stay in Qatar,Qatar are not UFO they are normal people like the rest of us who restrict themselves because of their religion but no matter how strong a religion is there will always be some side effects to it like the World Cup that was hosted there.

Now luckily all of the above is in abundance in the hosting countries of the 2026 World Cup and FIFA have nothing to worry about,it will go as smooth as always and hopefully it will be played in summer because when played in winter it was a really bad and not entertaining World Cup.

Despite Qatar's restrictions the World Cup was a success anyway. There were lots of polemics involving human rights violations, but it doesn't really matter for the fans of the sport and the competition who have a lot of money to spend on international travels and tickets.
Some sectors of society try to put some pressure on the public to boycott the event, but only those who can't afford the event care about it. The rich people in the world who attend to such events are only concerned with their personal pleasure being satiated.

Now you can expect USA will also suffer lots of criticisms due to the difficult for foreigners to enter the country, but it won't stop the World Cup from being a success anyway, like in every other editions. It's always the same story and people always behave similarly to past situations of the same kind.

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And this is something that Qatar never even considered, one of the things that they used to win the right to host the torunament was that the middle east was yet to host the World Cup, and FIFA in their attempt to bring the World Cup to every region of the world wanted to give Qatar a chance, but now that we have seen the treatment they gave to the tourists that visited their country for this event then FIFA is going to be way more wary about organizing such a big event there, when there were so many restrictions during the Qatar World Cup.

If FIFA wants to kill the excitement and the glamour of the world cup let them allow any Islamic country to host the next competition. The complaints of violation of human rights, exploitation of workers, and stringent condition placed on football fans are still fresh in the memory of the world, so they should let us heal from these traumatic experience. These issues were fuelled by the kind of political system these countries operates. These nations are ruled by autocratic leaders that control the press, economy, and all sectors of the country.

The next four world cups should be hosted by democratic nations that promote the freedom of all citizens. Football fans should be able to enjoy the world cup without restriction. A country where workers will be protected from harm and paid based on the stipulated minimum wage. For now, no nation in the Middle East should host the world cup unless there is a concrete agreement to handle these issues.

I agree with you but completely, whenever you enter another country as a visitor you should respect the rules in fact if you accepted to visit that country you also accepted the rules of that country, that's why It's not a mistake from hosts when they have some restriction about drinks or another thing it's all because FIFA should consider many other factors because they let a country host the world cup.

There were alcohol for the fans even in Qatar as Qatar knows they restrict many things as they are a Muslim country but they are not extremists and so deep underground for anyone who wanted alcohol could easily find it,for everyone who wanted hookers could easily find them during their stay in Qatar,Qatar are not UFO they are normal people like the rest of us who restrict themselves because of their religion but no matter how strong a religion is there will always be some side effects to it like the World Cup that was hosted there.

Now luckily all of the above is in abundance in the hosting countries of the 2026 World Cup and FIFA have nothing to worry about,it will go as smooth as always and hopefully it will be played in summer because when played in winter it was a really bad and not entertaining World Cup.

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And this is something that Qatar never even considered, one of the things that they used to win the right to host the torunament was that the middle east was yet to host the World Cup, and FIFA in their attempt to bring the World Cup to every region of the world wanted to give Qatar a chance, but now that we have seen the treatment they gave to the tourists that visited their country for this event then FIFA is going to be way more wary about organizing such a big event there, when there were so many restrictions during the Qatar World Cup.

If FIFA wants to kill the excitement and the glamour of the world cup let them allow any Islamic country to host the next competition. The complaints of violation of human rights, exploitation of workers, and stringent condition placed on football fans are still fresh in the memory of the world, so they should let us heal from these traumatic experience. These issues were fuelled by the kind of political system these countries operates. These nations are ruled by autocratic leaders that control the press, economy, and all sectors of the country.

The next four world cups should be hosted by democratic nations that promote the freedom of all citizens. Football fans should be able to enjoy the world cup without restriction. A country where workers will be protected from harm and paid based on the stipulated minimum wage. For now, no nation in the Middle East should host the world cup unless there is a concrete agreement to handle these issues.

I agree with you but completely, whenever you enter another country as a visitor you should respect the rules in fact if you accepted to visit that country you also accepted the rules of that country, that's why It's not a mistake from hosts when they have some restriction about drinks or another thing it's all because FIFA should consider many other factors because they let a country host the world cup.

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Quote from: Silberman on May 02, 2023, 12:55:26 PM

And this is something that Qatar never even considered, one of the things that they used to win the right to host the torunament was that the middle east was yet to host the World Cup, and FIFA in their attempt to bring the World Cup to every region of the world wanted to give Qatar a chance, but now that we have seen the treatment they gave to the tourists that visited their country for this event then FIFA is going to be way more wary about organizing such a big event there, when there were so many restrictions during the Qatar World Cup.

If FIFA wants to kill the excitement and the glamour of the world cup let them allow any Islamic country to host the next competition. The complaints of violation of human rights, exploitation of workers, and stringent condition placed on football fans are still fresh in the memory of the world, so they should let us heal from these traumatic experience. These issues were fuelled by the kind of political system these countries operates. These nations are ruled by autocratic leaders that control the press, economy, and all sectors of the country.

The next four world cups should be hosted by democratic nations that promote the freedom of all citizens. Football fans should be able to enjoy the world cup without restriction. A country where workers will be protected from harm and paid based on the stipulated minimum wage. For now, no nation in the Middle East should host the world cup unless there is a concrete agreement to handle these issues.

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I exactly think the same way about allowing these countries to host great tournaments, that's simple they don't have enough facilities and that's not a wise move to let a country without enough facilities host the world cup because there will be consequences even after hosting the world cup, many people are unhappy about the time they spent in Qatar.

That never really mattered to them at all. Qatar is seen "fine" by the west because they can get love from them, Qatar may act as if they do like western people or at least the ones at the top could, but in theory there is really nothing that different fundamentally between Qatar and North Korea, sure the media will make you believe there is, but this is the same nation that thousands of people died to build these stadiums and other stuff so they can host World Cup.

The only thing Fifa cares about is money, if you pay them the bribe you should, then you are going to have the world cup. I am sure North Korea could pay a lot and still won't have it, but they do not really care about anything else, they just care about the money. Saudi Arabia is not democracy for example, they have nepotism and dictatorship, so one family rules it with iron fist, no elections, and if they pay the bribe, they can host it too.

Now Imagine some people think Saudi Arabia can be a good host for the next world cup after 2026, there we are going to see the same story we saw in Qatar and even worst than Qatar because they have more complicated rules.
That's why I think choosing America as the world cup host was a good move because there they have more freedom and people who visit this country will not have the same problems they had in Qatar.

That is one of the few reasons why the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia didn't win the bid and was not chosen by the FIFA congress to host the next world cup after 2026, there was some saying that Saudi Arabia will join forces with Egypt and Greece to host the 2030 WC but that wasn't pushed through because of what happened in the recent World Cup 2023 where people weren't that much happy because they are not that free to do what they wanted because there are rules that needed to be observed which is common in a Muslim country. But Saudi Arabia wasn't really disappointed because the FIFA gave them the right to host the 2027 Asian Cup.

Hosting the Asian Cup is another story and it's not the same as the world cup, we know Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country and if they host the world cup there will be even harder rules than Qatar there, that's why I think letting this country host the world cup is not what FIFA wants, while since they spent a lot of money to reach everything they want I won't be surprised if I see them host the world cup just because they have enough money for it.

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I exactly think the same way about allowing these countries to host great tournaments, that's simple they don't have enough facilities and that's not a wise move to let a country without enough facilities host the world cup because there will be consequences even after hosting the world cup, many people are unhappy about the time they spent in Qatar.

That never really mattered to them at all. Qatar is seen "fine" by the west because they can get love from them, Qatar may act as if they do like western people or at least the ones at the top could, but in theory there is really nothing that different fundamentally between Qatar and North Korea, sure the media will make you believe there is, but this is the same nation that thousands of people died to build these stadiums and other stuff so they can host World Cup.

The only thing Fifa cares about is money, if you pay them the bribe you should, then you are going to have the world cup. I am sure North Korea could pay a lot and still won't have it, but they do not really care about anything else, they just care about the money. Saudi Arabia is not democracy for example, they have nepotism and dictatorship, so one family rules it with iron fist, no elections, and if they pay the bribe, they can host it too.

The bribe part is true, but there is a limit to it for sure. Look at how they are approaching to Russia deal right now, because of the war they are saying that Russia can't join, and yet Russia attacked Ukraine before this one as well, this wasn't the first time they did something like that, they did attacked Ukraine in 2014 I think? Not sure, and yet they did managed to host world cup anyway.

So all you can see that there is a limit, Russia attacked Ukraine and hosted, then Russia attacked Ukraine and kicked out, not sure what was the difference between the first attack and the second attack, it is not like they were not allowed to even join, they were HOSTING it after the first one, and the second one they just kicked out and can't even play. So there is a limit, no idea what it is, but there is one.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 02, 2023, 10:59:45 AM

In fact, France was just a step away from repeating the path of England - only a point separated them from the Austrian team. At the same time, after a short period of time, these same teams performed perfectly at the World Cup. It is obvious that no one cares about this tournament and the spectators too (by the way, this is also because of the format - no one is ready to wait a year between the group stage and the playoffs). But these are official games and gradually disregard for such games will be transferred to all tournaments.

Agreed. This tournament doesn't make any sense. When we already have the Euro Cup, what is the point in having the UEFA Nations League? And the advantage with Euro is that it gets completed in less than a month, while the UEFA Nations League goes on for more than a year in staggered phases. If UEFA can't conduct this tournament in a single phase (or at least over a shorter duration), then it will be better to shelve it completely and use the resources (time and funds) available to further expand the Euro Cup.

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