FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 248.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 02, 2023, 06:45:29 AM

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 01, 2023, 02:41:16 AM

I exactly think the same way about allowing these countries to host great tournaments, that's simple they don't have enough facilities and that's not a wise move to let a country without enough facilities host the world cup because there will be consequences even after hosting the world cup, many people are unhappy about the time they spent in Qatar.

That never really mattered to them at all. Qatar is seen "fine" by the west because they can get love from them, Qatar may act as if they do like western people or at least the ones at the top could, but in theory there is really nothing that different fundamentally between Qatar and North Korea, sure the media will make you believe there is, but this is the same nation that thousands of people died to build these stadiums and other stuff so they can host World Cup.

The only thing Fifa cares about is money, if you pay them the bribe you should, then you are going to have the world cup. I am sure North Korea could pay a lot and still won't have it, but they do not really care about anything else, they just care about the money. Saudi Arabia is not democracy for example, they have nepotism and dictatorship, so one family rules it with iron fist, no elections, and if they pay the bribe, they can host it too.

Now Imagine some people think Saudi Arabia can be a good host for the next world cup after 2026, there we are going to see the same story we saw in Qatar and even worst than Qatar because they have more complicated rules.
That's why I think choosing America as the world cup host was a good move because there they have more freedom and people who visit this country will not have the same problems they had in Qatar.

That is one of the few reasons why the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia didn't win the bid and was not chosen by the FIFA congress to host the next world cup after 2026, there was some saying that Saudi Arabia will join forces with Egypt and Greece to host the 2030 WC but that wasn't pushed through because of what happened in the recent World Cup 2023 where people weren't that much happy because they are not that free to do what they wanted because there are rules that needed to be observed which is common in a Muslim country. But Saudi Arabia wasn't really disappointed because the FIFA gave them the right to host the 2027 Asian Cup.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 01, 2023, 09:04:41 PM

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And this tournament was perceived much worse than the traditional ones because of the League of Nations. Most of the top teams played like shit in the Nations League because this tournament is, in fact, not interesting for anyone. And after we see when the top teams play like shit, it seems that the football of the national teams is a miserable sight and this feeling is carried over to the next tournament, which was the World Cup.

I agree. The 2022–23 UEFA Nations League was a disaster. None of the major teams took it seriously. France finished third in their group, with just 5 points. Out of the total of 6 matches, they could only win one. England finished at the last place in Group A3, and were relegated to UEFA Nations League B. The same can be said about the performances of Germany and Belgium. The international calendar is looking very crowded nowadays. The players are in a bit of confusion, to whether to give priority to the club side, or towards the national team.

In fact, France was just a step away from repeating the path of England - only a point separated them from the Austrian team. At the same time, after a short period of time, these same teams performed perfectly at the World Cup. It is obvious that no one cares about this tournament and the spectators too (by the way, this is also because of the format - no one is ready to wait a year between the group stage and the playoffs). But these are official games and gradually disregard for such games will be transferred to all tournaments.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on May 02, 2023, 03:34:33 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 01, 2023, 02:41:16 AM

I exactly think the same way about allowing these countries to host great tournaments, that's simple they don't have enough facilities and that's not a wise move to let a country without enough facilities host the world cup because there will be consequences even after hosting the world cup, many people are unhappy about the time they spent in Qatar.

That never really mattered to them at all. Qatar is seen "fine" by the west because they can get love from them, Qatar may act as if they do like western people or at least the ones at the top could, but in theory there is really nothing that different fundamentally between Qatar and North Korea, sure the media will make you believe there is, but this is the same nation that thousands of people died to build these stadiums and other stuff so they can host World Cup.

The only thing Fifa cares about is money, if you pay them the bribe you should, then you are going to have the world cup. I am sure North Korea could pay a lot and still won't have it, but they do not really care about anything else, they just care about the money. Saudi Arabia is not democracy for example, they have nepotism and dictatorship, so one family rules it with iron fist, no elections, and if they pay the bribe, they can host it too.

Now Imagine some people think Saudi Arabia can be a good host for the next world cup after 2026, there we are going to see the same story we saw in Qatar and even worst than Qatar because they have more complicated rules.
That's why I think choosing America as the world cup host was a good move because there they have more freedom and people who visit this country will not have the same problems they had in Qatar.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 01, 2023, 02:41:16 AM

I exactly think the same way about allowing these countries to host great tournaments, that's simple they don't have enough facilities and that's not a wise move to let a country without enough facilities host the world cup because there will be consequences even after hosting the world cup, many people are unhappy about the time they spent in Qatar.

That never really mattered to them at all. Qatar is seen "fine" by the west because they can get love from them, Qatar may act as if they do like western people or at least the ones at the top could, but in theory there is really nothing that different fundamentally between Qatar and North Korea, sure the media will make you believe there is, but this is the same nation that thousands of people died to build these stadiums and other stuff so they can host World Cup.

The only thing Fifa cares about is money, if you pay them the bribe you should, then you are going to have the world cup. I am sure North Korea could pay a lot and still won't have it, but they do not really care about anything else, they just care about the money. Saudi Arabia is not democracy for example, they have nepotism and dictatorship, so one family rules it with iron fist, no elections, and if they pay the bribe, they can host it too.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 02, 2023, 02:24:08 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on May 01, 2023, 03:26:01 PM

Anyways, the ban beer and other beverages during the 2022 world cup that was held in Qatar was no big deal as those who wanted to drink still drank, but not inside the stadium, it was a preventive measure to prevent chaos, as it's been seen that some watchers after drinking and tipsy, have a habit of throwing beer bottles at the players, most especially when they are not performing as expected, I won't be surprised if the same ban happens again in the coming 2026 world cup.

But I think suspending alcoholic drinks is important, just imagine how many people are drinking alcoholic drinks they visited Qatar but due to the traditional rules they couldn't drink that's very important for a host to make the visitors happy while Qatar failed, in Qatar, you can do everything you want and break every rule you want if you are rich, I think in 2026 world cup we won't see this situation in these three countries.

If you read more carefully about the ban on alcohol at the Qatar World Cup then it's not a problem because the ban is only during matches, spectators who are used to drinking alcohol can still drink it but can't be in the stadium and that's a few hours before the game.
Qatar and also other Arab countries as well as several countries in Asia do have stricter regulations regarding alcohol unlike countries in Europe or America and that is because want to comply with religious rules, and there should not be regulations that already exist there replaced or relaxed just because there is a big event, but sometimes countries will apply double standards but when it comes to religion then Arab countries will be a little stricter.
During the 2026 world cup, we will not only not see the ban on alcohol, but also other things that are common in these 3 countries, so the spectators doesn't need to bring a guidebook regarding the rules because it will be more free later.

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nailed it - obviously America and Canada are the great countries. But Qatar was no less than them. They have progressed in all phases of life and they have not kept anything for themselves. They even donated the temporary residential spaces to turkey after the earth quack

We know in America they have a much better situation to host the world cup than Qatar and the reason is they have a better weather situation and better stadiums, in Qatar they had to spend money to build stadiums and hotels while in America they don't need to spend this money. Also because of the weather situation in Qatar, they had to use many cooling devices for even the stadiums while in America they have a much better situation to host the world cup.

One of the most beautiful thing in the next World cup is the weather, the friendly weather will play role in the performance of players . The next world cup will really go smoothly because already everything have been set longtime ago, and will be one of the best world cup tournaments.

Well it is true that the American weather is good and the site of the place where the world cup would take place will be quite better with no big restrictions like what happened during the last world cup that people where restricted from drinking beer and other beverages because it was against there law.
Making two countries to host the world cup is a bit very rare to me because I don't think this had been happening before. What I know is that it's only one country that normally host the world cup. Now it would involve two countries.

Well, I don't know if another user have correct you, but you are wrong, it is not two countries involved in the 2026 world cup, but three countries actually, and they are namely -
USA
Canada
Mexico
This is clearly mentioned in the subject of this topic..

Anyways, the ban beer and other beverages during the 2022 world cup that was held in Qatar was no big deal as those who wanted to drink still drank, but not inside the stadium, it was a preventive measure to prevent chaos, as it's been seen that some watchers after drinking and tipsy, have a habit of throwing beer bottles at the players, most especially when they are not performing as expected, I won't be surprised if the same ban happens again in the coming 2026 world cup.

But I think suspending alcoholic drinks is important, just imagine how many people are drinking alcoholic drinks they visited Qatar but due to the traditional rules they couldn't drink that's very important for a host to make the visitors happy while Qatar failed, in Qatar, you can do everything you want and break every rule you want if you are rich, I think in 2026 world cup we won't see this situation in these three countries.

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I agree here. This World Cup in the middle of the season resembled either exhibition games or fixed games. There was no feeling of historicity of what was happening. This tournament was based on money from the very beginning to the very end, and I have no good attitude towards such things. But in fairness, I should note that if you look at the trend, then maybe this is just a consequence of the fact that the national team tournaments are gradually dying. I'll test my feelings at Euro 2024, maybe I'm wrong.

It was not that entertaining as it is in the normal time in summer when it is held in Europe,South America or North America,we are used to such World Cups and we were not used to the tournament being played in November which was boring and it was double boring because it stopped our beloved Premier League and other major leagues.I had the feeling that the teams were not performing to their fullest but that is because most teams were experimenting with new players,we will really see how good this new teams like Spain which I think will grow really nice to give us a big surprise maybe in the 2024 Euro.

And this tournament was perceived much worse than the traditional ones because of the League of Nations. Most of the top teams played like shit in the Nations League because this tournament is, in fact, not interesting for anyone. And after we see when the top teams play like shit, it seems that the football of the national teams is a miserable sight and this feeling is carried over to the next tournament, which was the World Cup.

there is always another game going behind the real game - and we are unaware of it.
Not always what we see on our TV is a fair game. And let's take thing in a lighter mood and move on!

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 01, 2023, 05:29:09 PM

And this tournament was perceived much worse than the traditional ones because of the League of Nations. Most of the top teams played like shit in the Nations League because this tournament is, in fact, not interesting for anyone. And after we see when the top teams play like shit, it seems that the football of the national teams is a miserable sight and this feeling is carried over to the next tournament, which was the World Cup.

I agree. The 2022–23 UEFA Nations League was a disaster. None of the major teams took it seriously. France finished third in their group, with just 5 points. Out of the total of 6 matches, they could only win one. England finished at the last place in Group A3, and were relegated to UEFA Nations League B. The same can be said about the performances of Germany and Belgium. The international calendar is looking very crowded nowadays. The players are in a bit of confusion, to whether to give priority to the club side, or towards the national team.

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Quote from: swogerino on May 01, 2023, 12:15:41 PM

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I agree here. This World Cup in the middle of the season resembled either exhibition games or fixed games. There was no feeling of historicity of what was happening. This tournament was based on money from the very beginning to the very end, and I have no good attitude towards such things. But in fairness, I should note that if you look at the trend, then maybe this is just a consequence of the fact that the national team tournaments are gradually dying. I'll test my feelings at Euro 2024, maybe I'm wrong.

It was not that entertaining as it is in the normal time in summer when it is held in Europe,South America or North America,we are used to such World Cups and we were not used to the tournament being played in November which was boring and it was double boring because it stopped our beloved Premier League and other major leagues.I had the feeling that the teams were not performing to their fullest but that is because most teams were experimenting with new players,we will really see how good this new teams like Spain which I think will grow really nice to give us a big surprise maybe in the 2024 Euro.

And this tournament was perceived much worse than the traditional ones because of the League of Nations. Most of the top teams played like shit in the Nations League because this tournament is, in fact, not interesting for anyone. And after we see when the top teams play like shit, it seems that the football of the national teams is a miserable sight and this feeling is carried over to the next tournament, which was the World Cup.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 01, 2023, 11:04:47 AM

Why is the world cup in Qatar the best in history? Do you have a specific reason why you think so?
If you think the World Cup in Qatar was the best because of the money made, then you are probably right, but football should not only be focused on finance and money.
Football is first of all emotion, joy, happiness, sadness, pleasure... everything that makes football so special.
On that side, for me, the best world cups, from those I remember, were 1986 in Mexico, 1990 in Italy, 2002 in South Korea and Japan and 2014 in Brazil.
As the Mastercard commercial reads, emotions can't be bought with money Grin

I agree here. This World Cup in the middle of the season resembled either exhibition games or fixed games. There was no feeling of historicity of what was happening. This tournament was based on money from the very beginning to the very end, and I have no good attitude towards such things. But in fairness, I should note that if you look at the trend, then maybe this is just a consequence of the fact that the national team tournaments are gradually dying. I'll test my feelings at Euro 2024, maybe I'm wrong.

It was not that entertaining as it is in the normal time in summer when it is held in Europe,South America or North America,we are used to such World Cups and we were not used to the tournament being played in November which was boring and it was double boring because it stopped our beloved Premier League and other major leagues.I had the feeling that the teams were not performing to their fullest but that is because most teams were experimenting with new players,we will really see how good this new teams like Spain which I think will grow really nice to give us a big surprise maybe in the 2024 Euro.

It is well said emotions cant be brought with money
I think every world cup is unique and every country tries their best to bring the best to the world. So we much appreciate every nation effort for keeping the entertainment alive

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The amount of money that is earned by everyone via World Cup is crazy. The hosts make money, Fifa makes a lot of money, the hotels around it makes money, the events around it make money, the shops around it makes money, players make more money due to endorsements as well, hell even clubs make more money because their players worth more if they play well, and even go as far as say that national teams that are not the host make money by selling their jersey as well, that merch income is not something small.

So, overall if we look at every single cent earned thanks to world cup, it is a 11 maybe 12 digit amount, I bet 30-40 billion at least when you calculate it all, and that's not easy to do that is a huge amount of money we are talking about, unheard of in anything else in the world.

Fifa only cares about the money they make though, the rest of it doesn't really matter to them. The tickets will be sold even before the world cup starts, I do not remember a single game, and I mean even if it's two of the worst teams in the world cup, there is not a single game where people buy tickets easily.

There are a lot of people who end up with tickets waaay before world cup starts, and a lot of games tickets are sold out months ahead, you think the final game will be bought right at the gate? We all know that will be already there even before the cup starts. So all in all ticket sales and TV rights and all that goes to Fifa and as long as that's profitable, they will be willing to do it in any nation all around the world, don't care about nothing but the money.

Money sings, and Fifa's all ears. But is it just to condemn them for seeking gain? They're a venture, and like every undertaking, they require riches to persevere. Bear in mind, the World Cup is colossal. The fiscal demands? Staggering. Erecting arenas, ensuring safety, hyping the event – it accumulates swiftly. Though Fifa may seem avaricious, ponder the intricate logistics of such a grand occasion. Yes, they profit, but it doesn't imply they disregard the sport or the devotees. Applaud the labor that births the World Cup. And if Fifa reaps rewards along the way? Who are we to judge?

well said - Money sings and FIFA all ears. Haha
I think it goes everywhere - It should go - Money sings and everyone is all ears.
The power is money - I wish I get so much money that it doesn't finishes for whole my life.

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nailed it - obviously America and Canada are the great countries. But Qatar was no less than them. They have progressed in all phases of life and they have not kept anything for themselves. They even donated the temporary residential spaces to turkey after the earth quack

We know in America they have a much better situation to host the world cup than Qatar and the reason is they have a better weather situation and better stadiums, in Qatar they had to spend money to build stadiums and hotels while in America they don't need to spend this money. Also because of the weather situation in Qatar, they had to use many cooling devices for even the stadiums while in America they have a much better situation to host the world cup.

One of the most beautiful thing in the next World cup is the weather, the friendly weather will play role in the performance of players . The next world cup will really go smoothly because already everything have been set longtime ago, and will be one of the best world cup tournaments.

Well it is true that the American weather is good and the site of the place where the world cup would take place will be quite better with no big restrictions like what happened during the last world cup that people where restricted from drinking beer and other beverages because it was against there law.
Making two countries to host the world cup is a bit very rare to me because I don't think this had been happening before. What I know is that it's only one country that normally host the world cup. Now it would involve two countries.

Well, I don't know if another user have correct you, but you are wrong, it is not two countries involved in the 2026 world cup, but three countries actually, and they are namely -
USA
Canada
Mexico
This is clearly mentioned in the subject of this topic..

Anyways, the ban beer and other beverages during the 2022 world cup that was held in Qatar was no big deal as those who wanted to drink still drank, but not inside the stadium, it was a preventive measure to prevent chaos, as it's been seen that some watchers after drinking and tipsy, have a habit of throwing beer bottles at the players, most especially when they are not performing as expected, I won't be surprised if the same ban happens again in the coming 2026 world cup.

that is correct beer was not completely banned but it was limited to some space where people can drink for a limited time period.
Some said they felt good after not having beer for sometime and their health was better.

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nailed it - obviously America and Canada are the great countries. But Qatar was no less than them. They have progressed in all phases of life and they have not kept anything for themselves. They even donated the temporary residential spaces to turkey after the earth quack

We know in America they have a much better situation to host the world cup than Qatar and the reason is they have a better weather situation and better stadiums, in Qatar they had to spend money to build stadiums and hotels while in America they don't need to spend this money. Also because of the weather situation in Qatar, they had to use many cooling devices for even the stadiums while in America they have a much better situation to host the world cup.

One of the most beautiful thing in the next World cup is the weather, the friendly weather will play role in the performance of players . The next world cup will really go smoothly because already everything have been set longtime ago, and will be one of the best world cup tournaments.

Well it is true that the American weather is good and the site of the place where the world cup would take place will be quite better with no big restrictions like what happened during the last world cup that people where restricted from drinking beer and other beverages because it was against there law.
Making two countries to host the world cup is a bit very rare to me because I don't think this had been happening before. What I know is that it's only one country that normally host the world cup. Now it would involve two countries.

Well, I don't know if another user have correct you, but you are wrong, it is not two countries involved in the 2026 world cup, but three countries actually, and they are namely -
USA
Canada
Mexico
This is clearly mentioned in the subject of this topic..

Anyways, the ban beer and other beverages during the 2022 world cup that was held in Qatar was no big deal as those who wanted to drink still drank, but not inside the stadium, it was a preventive measure to prevent chaos, as it's been seen that some watchers after drinking and tipsy, have a habit of throwing beer bottles at the players, most especially when they are not performing as expected, I won't be surprised if the same ban happens again in the coming 2026 world cup.

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Quote from: og kush420 on April 23, 2023, 07:00:25 PM

nailed it - obviously America and Canada are the great countries. But Qatar was no less than them. They have progressed in all phases of life and they have not kept anything for themselves. They even donated the temporary residential spaces to turkey after the earth quack

We know in America they have a much better situation to host the world cup than Qatar and the reason is they have a better weather situation and better stadiums, in Qatar they had to spend money to build stadiums and hotels while in America they don't need to spend this money. Also because of the weather situation in Qatar, they had to use many cooling devices for even the stadiums while in America they have a much better situation to host the world cup.

One of the most beautiful thing in the next World cup is the weather, the friendly weather will play role in the performance of players . The next world cup will really go smoothly because already everything have been set longtime ago, and will be one of the best world cup tournaments.

Well it is true that the American weather is good and the site of the place where the world cup would take place will be quite better with no big restrictions like what happened during the last world cup that people where restricted from drinking beer and other beverages because it was against there law.
Making two countries to host the world cup is a bit very rare to me because I don't think this had been happening before. What I know is that it's only one country that normally host the world cup. Now it would involve two countries.

well some people took it as a restriction while the other took it as a peaceful initiative
The beer was not banned - but it was allowed in limited time at the limited places but not inside the stadium

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 01, 2023, 12:02:46 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on May 01, 2023, 11:04:47 AM

Why is the world cup in Qatar the best in history? Do you have a specific reason why you think so?
If you think the World Cup in Qatar was the best because of the money made, then you are probably right, but football should not only be focused on finance and money.
Football is first of all emotion, joy, happiness, sadness, pleasure... everything that makes football so special.
On that side, for me, the best world cups, from those I remember, were 1986 in Mexico, 1990 in Italy, 2002 in South Korea and Japan and 2014 in Brazil.
As the Mastercard commercial reads, emotions can't be bought with money Grin

I agree here. This World Cup in the middle of the season resembled either exhibition games or fixed games. There was no feeling of historicity of what was happening. This tournament was based on money from the very beginning to the very end, and I have no good attitude towards such things. But in fairness, I should note that if you look at the trend, then maybe this is just a consequence of the fact that the national team tournaments are gradually dying. I'll test my feelings at Euro 2024, maybe I'm wrong.

It was not that entertaining as it is in the normal time in summer when it is held in Europe,South America or North America,we are used to such World Cups and we were not used to the tournament being played in November which was boring and it was double boring because it stopped our beloved Premier League and other major leagues.I had the feeling that the teams were not performing to their fullest but that is because most teams were experimenting with new players,we will really see how good this new teams like Spain which I think will grow really nice to give us a big surprise maybe in the 2024 Euro.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 01, 2023, 11:04:47 AM

Why is the world cup in Qatar the best in history? Do you have a specific reason why you think so?
If you think the World Cup in Qatar was the best because of the money made, then you are probably right, but football should not only be focused on finance and money.
Football is first of all emotion, joy, happiness, sadness, pleasure... everything that makes football so special.
On that side, for me, the best world cups, from those I remember, were 1986 in Mexico, 1990 in Italy, 2002 in South Korea and Japan and 2014 in Brazil.
As the Mastercard commercial reads, emotions can't be bought with money Grin

I agree here. This World Cup in the middle of the season resembled either exhibition games or fixed games. There was no feeling of historicity of what was happening. This tournament was based on money from the very beginning to the very end, and I have no good attitude towards such things. But in fairness, I should note that if you look at the trend, then maybe this is just a consequence of the fact that the national team tournaments are gradually dying. I'll test my feelings at Euro 2024, maybe I'm wrong.

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It was clear that what the 2022 world cup host wanted was fame. They wanted to prove to the world that they could host the world cup and they also wanted to rebrand the Middle East making it look like an area that has become receptive to civilization and changes. Before this time people usually classify these Arabic nations as people that are glued to their religious beliefs. But the world cup proved that the middle east could make changes to their policies that will make football fans and investors comfortable. But I didn't see the last world cup as one of the best because it had many shortcomings that wouldn't have happened in another country.

If that was the case, then I am 100% sure that it didn't worked the way they intended. Even before the start of the tournament, many of the European teams were protesting against discrimination on unmarried couples and LGBTs. And some of the European teams even raised the issue of lack of compensation payments to the families of 6,000+ workers who died during the construction of world cup stadiums. And during the tournament, a lot of fans were unhappy about overpriced amenities and ban on alcohol. If Qatar wanted to showcase middle-east, then I would say that they completely failed in doing that.

@Sithara007 I totally agree with you and how can we forget that they refused to pay labourers their dues, so this World Cup just proved that they’ll never give up on their rigid beliefs. Furthermore it’s only in media that one will hear good things about the Qatar World Cup, but in reality I don’t think that they should be allowed to host another important tournament again.

How the next World Cup will be we can't imagine now. Because we saw the World Cup in Qatar, which is the best World Cup in history so far. It is only a matter of time before FIFA organizes the next World Cup. We can compare with the World Cup in Qatar when we see the next World Cup with our own eyes.

Why is the world cup in Qatar the best in history? Do you have a specific reason why you think so?
If you think the World Cup in Qatar was the best because of the money made, then you are probably right, but football should not only be focused on finance and money.
Football is first of all emotion, joy, happiness, sadness, pleasure... everything that makes football so special.
On that side, for me, the best world cups, from those I remember, were 1986 in Mexico, 1990 in Italy, 2002 in South Korea and Japan and 2014 in Brazil.
As the Mastercard commercial reads, emotions can't be bought with money Grin

In the next World Cup I think Brazil will be a very strong team. Because currently there are young players in the Brazilian team, they are playing in different famous clubs and are developing themselves very well. As the next World Cup approaches, the games will become more experienced, so I expect the Brazil team to be very strong.

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It was clear that what the 2022 world cup host wanted was fame. They wanted to prove to the world that they could host the world cup and they also wanted to rebrand the Middle East making it look like an area that has become receptive to civilization and changes. Before this time people usually classify these Arabic nations as people that are glued to their religious beliefs. But the world cup proved that the middle east could make changes to their policies that will make football fans and investors comfortable. But I didn't see the last world cup as one of the best because it had many shortcomings that wouldn't have happened in another country.

If that was the case, then I am 100% sure that it didn't worked the way they intended. Even before the start of the tournament, many of the European teams were protesting against discrimination on unmarried couples and LGBTs. And some of the European teams even raised the issue of lack of compensation payments to the families of 6,000+ workers who died during the construction of world cup stadiums. And during the tournament, a lot of fans were unhappy about overpriced amenities and ban on alcohol. If Qatar wanted to showcase middle-east, then I would say that they completely failed in doing that.

@Sithara007 I totally agree with you and how can we forget that they refused to pay labourers their dues, so this World Cup just proved that they’ll never give up on their rigid beliefs. Furthermore it’s only in media that one will hear good things about the Qatar World Cup, but in reality I don’t think that they should be allowed to host another important tournament again.

How the next World Cup will be we can't imagine now. Because we saw the World Cup in Qatar, which is the best World Cup in history so far. It is only a matter of time before FIFA organizes the next World Cup. We can compare with the World Cup in Qatar when we see the next World Cup with our own eyes.

Why is the world cup in Qatar the best in history? Do you have a specific reason why you think so?
If you think the World Cup in Qatar was the best because of the money made, then you are probably right, but football should not only be focused on finance and money.
Football is first of all emotion, joy, happiness, sadness, pleasure... everything that makes football so special.
On that side, for me, the best world cups, from those I remember, were 1986 in Mexico, 1990 in Italy, 2002 in South Korea and Japan and 2014 in Brazil.
As the Mastercard commercial reads, emotions can't be bought with money Grin

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It was clear that what the 2022 world cup host wanted was fame. They wanted to prove to the world that they could host the world cup and they also wanted to rebrand the Middle East making it look like an area that has become receptive to civilization and changes. Before this time people usually classify these Arabic nations as people that are glued to their religious beliefs. But the world cup proved that the middle east could make changes to their policies that will make football fans and investors comfortable. But I didn't see the last world cup as one of the best because it had many shortcomings that wouldn't have happened in another country.

If that was the case, then I am 100% sure that it didn't worked the way they intended. Even before the start of the tournament, many of the European teams were protesting against discrimination on unmarried couples and LGBTs. And some of the European teams even raised the issue of lack of compensation payments to the families of 6,000+ workers who died during the construction of world cup stadiums. And during the tournament, a lot of fans were unhappy about overpriced amenities and ban on alcohol. If Qatar wanted to showcase middle-east, then I would say that they completely failed in doing that.

However, in my opinion, it is not fair for Qatar when they are considered a failure, because as a host, they must glorify their guests, but as guests, of course, they must respect the policies adopted by the host. Also, isn't that already approved by FIFA as the highest organization in football?
Here it is important to respect each other's decisions, because when talking about which policies should be taken, everyone also wants their opinion to be implemented. I think here we are actually being tested for our maturity in judging things.

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The amount of money that is earned by everyone via World Cup is crazy. The hosts make money, Fifa makes a lot of money, the hotels around it makes money, the events around it make money, the shops around it makes money, players make more money due to endorsements as well, hell even clubs make more money because their players worth more if they play well, and even go as far as say that national teams that are not the host make money by selling their jersey as well, that merch income is not something small.

So, overall if we look at every single cent earned thanks to world cup, it is a 11 maybe 12 digit amount, I bet 30-40 billion at least when you calculate it all, and that's not easy to do that is a huge amount of money we are talking about, unheard of in anything else in the world.

Fifa only cares about the money they make though, the rest of it doesn't really matter to them. The tickets will be sold even before the world cup starts, I do not remember a single game, and I mean even if it's two of the worst teams in the world cup, there is not a single game where people buy tickets easily.

There are a lot of people who end up with tickets waaay before world cup starts, and a lot of games tickets are sold out months ahead, you think the final game will be bought right at the gate? We all know that will be already there even before the cup starts. So all in all ticket sales and TV rights and all that goes to Fifa and as long as that's profitable, they will be willing to do it in any nation all around the world, don't care about nothing but the money.

Money sings, and Fifa's all ears. But is it just to condemn them for seeking gain? They're a venture, and like every undertaking, they require riches to persevere. Bear in mind, the World Cup is colossal. The fiscal demands? Staggering. Erecting arenas, ensuring safety, hyping the event – it accumulates swiftly. Though Fifa may seem avaricious, ponder the intricate logistics of such a grand occasion. Yes, they profit, but it doesn't imply they disregard the sport or the devotees. Applaud the labor that births the World Cup. And if Fifa reaps rewards along the way? Who are we to judge?

I think I have to correct this at least partially as the FIFA is registered as a non profit organization. This doesn't mean they can't "earn" money, but they are obligated to funnel those funds into projects that are clearly aimed at improving sports and soccer infrastructure around the world while serving sustainability goals. The FIFA doesn't do that, they are one of the most corrupt organizations in the world and when giving away contractual work they prefer friends and family. Millions of dollars find their way to the Cayman Islands and elsewhere. If the FIFA was acting according their legal status, I doubt that a lot of funds would end up in the Cayman Islands or at construction companies that are known or suspected to be engaging in corruption. Sepp Blatter has by now clearly stated that a lot of things are going wrong and I don't think tat Infantino leaves any doubt that he is involved in very questionable activities.

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