Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 26. (Read 62996 times)

The daily work done at a club is completely different from that done at a national team. Tite was the coach of the Brazilian national team for many, many years, so he is already accustomed to the routine of a national team. At the club, he did poorly, but he did not leave the team in total chaos. He did a below-average job, of course, but nothing as bad as Dorival Junior's work at the helm of the Brazilian national team. Tite had not been in charge of a club for a long time, and I believe he had a lot of difficulty in getting back into the swing of things... Today, thinking about it, the best person to coach the national team today would be to bring back coach Tite, or else try to find a high-level European coach.

You mean to tell me a manager who did so poorly at his club that he got fired should be the manager for the nation team? How would that make them any better? Obviously the dude wasn't good at all which caused him to lose his job, so if he joined the national team what guarantee he would do any better? Likely result would be that he will do worse.

I agree, during his tenure at Brazil, they did alright and they won and they were happy, but obviously he may not be the same person and the team may not be the same team so maybe this could be a bad idea. I am not against giving him a try out, firing the current manager would be awesome and they should, but the problem is that if they hire Tite, they won't be firing him anytime soon, they will keep him until end of world cup.

Ancelotti was interested in taking charge of Brazil and was expected to take charge of the Brazil team after his contract with Real Madrid expired. But Real Madrid did not want to let go of this manager, so they renewed the contract with this manager, due to which Ancelotti could not take charge of Brazil. If Ancelotti had taken charge of the Brazilian team, the situation in Brazil would have really changed and the Brazilian team would have seen the light again. Homegrown managers will not work because Brazil has already vetted every manager and they have not had any good results. There are many well-known managers in Europe and if the CBF doesn't stop trying, some experienced European managers could come to Brazil.

Politics and sports are usually intertwined...

This reminded me of Argentina vs England, fighting over the Falkland Islands/Islas Malvinas on every match they have.

Politics is life really, basically a way of living life in particular. It's not some separate thing.

And sports and betting are also tied to politics.

Yes, I agree with both points made. On one side, sports, particularly football, can significantly contribute to a country's global recognition. A player like Neymar, for instance, can uplift Brazil's image on the international scene. Winning occurrences as such, like the World Cup, can indeed attract more fans and tourists, benefiting the country's tourism industry to a great extent.

Conversely, politics can also adversely impact these benefits. Anything from favoritism and bribery to the misallocation of funds can negatively affect the team's performance and, as a result, the country's image in the global landscape. It is crucial to maintain integrity in the management of sports to ensure its positive contribution to society.

I am not so familiar with politics within Brazil but it is not unknown that they have one of the greatest athletes in the world. Neymar is definitely a solid proof of this. Winning the world cup will boost the country’s popularity more and attract more fans and tourists to their country. It is global recognition after all.

But I can also see how politics can outweigh these benefits. If everyone is looking out after themselves then there will be no good results for the team. Favoritism and bribery may come in factor here as well as wrong allocation of funds.

True, Ancelotti cancellation from being recruited to become Brazil coach was not because of any problems with the federation or CBF but more likely because of an offer given by Real Madrid to be able to extend the contract because under coach Ancelotti, Real Madrid could show success.
Moreover, Ancelotti would definitely choose Real Madrid over Brazil when both made offers at the same time because with Real Madrid it is clear that he can work well and only needs to continue his performance, unlike when he handled Brazil he had to start from the beginning and it took time to be able to really show development and improvement in playing quality.
What is clear now is that I really can't think and say anything about Brazil regarding the coach problem because the only way is to find European or other coach who clearly has lot of experience, this kind of thing has been talked about lot since several years ago but in reality they still only rely on native coaches from Brazil.
Haha maybe this is about money and it is possible to save costs in bringing in and paying the coach salary.

I agree with you, to solve the problem of the Brazilian national team, only a foreign coach with a lot of experience can solve it. The problem is which coach? I don't think any elite coach in European football would accept the proposal to coach the Brazilian national team... and in Brazil there aren't many names left, they're all very bad. The situation of the Brazilian national team is desperate.

Football plays a big role in Brazil's economy. Based on football they manage to bring huge amount of money to their country every year and as far as I know CBF is a football federation more corrupt than any other football organization. But even if they commit corruption, they have to remember that if their team performs poorly on a regular basis, they will have no room for corruption. The European manager must come but he must be given freedom and the European manager must give certain conditions to Brazil before taking charge of Brazil. If Brazil can accept these terms, their fortunes may change. I think if Brazil don't change their manager they can't do any better.

Maybe Brazil needs this? I mean they have been good for so many years, but they won so few, and I do not remember the last time they were awesome and clearly better than everyone, they were always good, but just good, not winners all the time. So maybe, they just need to do terribly, to see the problem and maybe start doing better later on?

It's a possibility and we could see them do fine eventually, that wouldn't really be a bad idea at all, we can see that work one way or another.

I think that is what the main point of finding the bottom is, so that you can't go any lower, and the only way to move would be higher. That is what they are facing with right now, it's possible that we are going to do something that will take a while but they may suck for a while until they fix the problem whatever it is and do better after that.

I believe that manager issue wasn't really taken seriously, there are some great managers out there who they didn't even contacted, they just didn't care, they assumed they had a great team and that would be enough. After this, I think they will take care of the manager situation a bit better and will hire someone who is actually good and did some great stuff at some team.

Flamengo had to sack him for poor performance.  The club is currently in fourth place in the Brazilian Championship. They have also been knocked out of the Copa Libertadores after losing in the quarterfinals to Uruguay’s Peñarol.

Adenor Leonardo Bachiis is not a new face on the national team; he worked with the team from 2016 to December 2022. He led them to win the 2019 Copa América, but he left the national team after the disappointing outing in the 2022 FIFA World Cup when they lost on penalties against Croatia. I don't think he would make any impact on the team, considering his recent statistics. The Brazilian national team needs an experienced foreign coach.

Carlo Ancelotti wanted to join Brazil or we can say they were about to hire this coach for Brazil but they couldn't do that finally in the end and Ancelotti decided to stay in Real Madrid, even I remember when I saw rumors about Ancelotti leaving Real Madrid to Brazil he said he is just waiting for Real Madrid to extend his contract which means he is not interested in leaving Real Madrid. Even the president of Brazil started complaining and he said they won't need to hire a non-Brazilian coach for their team.

Now we have the former coach of the Brazilian national team available on the market, coach Adenor Leonardo Bachi AKA Tite. He was fired from the Flamengo team for not being able to bring the expected results, perhaps the CBF bringing him back to the team will be able to return to playing some respectable football again because as bad and stubborn as Tite is, he is the face of the Brazilian team.

No doubt Europeans are way ahead in developing players skills which is helping them for having dominance in soccer even we are having too much natural talent in South America, but things are not going as they needed for having better results so they are facing unpredictable results and their system is also not as they needed even they are having good money, but they are not able to achieve things which bring better results in long run.

South American soccer is dominating the world, but their approach to game is never been like they have talent nearly more than 500 players from this region are having involvement in world top leagues which is amazing, but we never have things as they needed to be stayed at this level because now Europeans are changing things with technology.

As we are discussion about CBF and Brazilian soccer and understand their internal issues I believe many in this organization also understand about these things, but sadly they are having no power to bring changes because they are having no authority to do this with internal issues are surely needed development but mafia and corrupt peoples are having more power so they are not able to do now just wait and watch policy is best for all because this will give ground realities about this country and soccer can they fight back, or we will be lost this amazing soccer talent country.

There is nothing to be done, no European coach wants to face the brazilian national team, the CBF's problem is corruption and making a lot of money by doing the least possible, not even Ancelotti, who is an excellent coach, wanted to be the national team's coach and Brazilian coaches seem to be outdated.

Maybe if Ancelotti had been recruited, Brazil would have won the Copa America. There is news that there has been a change of leadership in the Brazilian football federation, so they failed to realize their hopes of bringing in Ancelotti. Of course, Brazil needs a more qualified manager, who can manage talented players in the squad. In my opinion, in the future if Brazil really part ways with Dorival Junior, it would be better for them to recruit a manager from Europe as a new successor, because the majority of Brazilian players play there, it will make it easier for them to adapt.
The international break will start in 10 days, Brazil will face Chile in the continuation of the South American Zone World Cup qualifiers. On paper it is an easy match to win, they must immediately bounce back and create momentum after being defeated by Paraguay in the last match.
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@Forsyth Jones, I don’t think qualifying for every World Cup and making incredible tricks to make people drop their jaws is actually as important as holding onto the legacy of Brazil winning the most amount of World Cups. That is a legacy that they should hold onto and they should hold onto that legacy by playing well in every World Cup. I know it is probably not possible to actually play well in every World Cup. But now they are not playing well in any World Cup. Probably one of the biggest upsets in recent times was Brazil losing to Germany 1-7. I can’t say that to Brazil have actually done well enough in any World Cup in recent times.

Without Neymar, they do not perform that well. So I think Brazil needs him, even though he is pretty old right now and not playing in a competitive league, I think he is capable of helping Brazil a lot. He just needs to concentrate on his fitness and try to stay healthy. Because injuries have been the biggest problem of his career.

If some European countries have the quality of players Brazil has, they might win many trophies. There was a time when it was speculated that Carlo Ancelotti was contacted to coach the Brazilian. From my perspective, I think he wanted to move to Brazil because he delayed the extension of his contract in Real Madrid, hoping that the offer would come. The deal was never reached and he had to extend his contract in Madrid. Brazil needs a coach who can harness the quality of players in the Seleção Canarinho.

The overall performance of the Brazilian team has not been going well in recent times due to which many have complained that they need to change the coach in order to solve the problem. If the coach can't give the right direction then he must be changed but also accept that changing the coach alone will not change the game.Along with the change in the coach, the players also have to change their performance i.e. improve their performance. If you add the best coach in the world to the team and the players in that team fail to perform well on the field then maybe bringing the best coach in the team is not a solution.

Just as the coach plays an important role in the success of a team, so do the players of the team. The coach will only give directions and the players have to reflect it on the field i.e. they have to perform using their talents, Only then will the desired result of the game be achieved i.e. the team will be able to win.

Well sometimes it becomes very unnecessary to be politicing around issues like this because it's very detrimental to the team much more than the politics will be benefiting to the team and the football federation as a whole, getting a good coach would even be more beneficial to the team and the management because they are going to have more wins and probably get trophies that will bring more glory to the team ans probably funds too because they are able to win the world cup, its worth is something i know they are very much aware of ànd Brazil as a team is gone past having certain performances at the world cup as much more is expected of them.