Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 28. (Read 65610 times)

I don't think the Indonesia team is that strong. Indonesia team has failed to win in the last 4 matches. Indonesia lost against China in the last match.However, Indonesia lost despite performing well against China. Indonesia players had 76% ball possession. Overall performance of Indonesian players was very good compared to Chinese players. However, Indonesia could not make a comeback in this match due to conceding two goals in the first half.

Indonesia will face Japan in the next match. The chances of Indonesia winning against Japan are very low. The Japanese team is very strong. But the match is Indonesia's home match. Indonesia players at home will be confident. So Japan has to play very carefully if they want to beat Indonesia.

Honestly I doubt Indonesia can secure 6 points from the next 2 matches. Although I support Indonesia, but in the next match Indonesia faces a very tough opponent, the number 1 team in Asia. Japan has never been defeated and has only conceded 1 goal. The interesting fact is that it was an own goal by a Japanese player so actually there is still no team that can break through Japan's goal. On the other hand, in the match against China we can see that Indonesia has shortcomings in the attacking sector. Indonesia controls possession of the ball but they have difficulty scoring goals. I think a draw against Japan is the best result that Indonesia can get. And I see Indonesia has a chance to win the match against Saudi Arabia.

The match against China, in my opinion, can be our reference to think positively when facing Japan, who knows and nothing is impossible if later Indonesia can give the first defeat to Japan when playing in GBK, especially we know that so far the enthusiasm of the Indonesian people in supporting their team is very extraordinary and it can be a motivation for the players as well as a psychological attack to bring down the mentality of the opposing players,  Japan is a very strong and consistent team in Group C and their have quality players and more experience at the international level, but Indonesia needs to learn from previous defeats to be able to play disciplined, maintain concentration throughout the match, and take advantage of every opportunity that exists so that with the right strategy and high fighting spirit, of course, it is not impossible for them to beat Japan in the  match.

Although I am a little skeptical about the Indonesia vs Japan match. But being the host should provide more benefits for the Indonesian national team. And playing at the Glora Bung Karno Stadium usually always triggers higher enthusiasm for the Indonesian national team players. I hope Indonesia can at least play with a draw in this match. And of course, if Indonesia is able to win, it will be the most beautiful gift for all supporters of the Indonesian National Team.

The Japanese national team is the only team that has not lost in Group C. So Indonesia really has a tough task when facing the strongest team in Group C.

yes, in that match China was really able to take advantage of this opportunity well, yes I also saw that STY seemed too optimistic that China would be easily defeated, yes it is true that after Ridho, Arhan, Thom Haye and Marselino played there were indeed better change that were shown Indonesian national team player and honestly, in my opinion, it would be better if Shin Tae-yong played Arhan from the start of the match to the end of the match, namely playing for the full 90 minutes, because I think Arhan has good skills and of course he has the privilege of throwing the ball with his hands and throws. It's always far, of course, I watched Arhan's throw several times in other matches, it always scared the opposing team and this was proven in the match between Indonesia and China because of Arhan's throwing services, finally Indonesia was able to score 1 goal through Haye and fortunately Haye was able to take advantage of the opportunity well.

But yes, hopefully this will all be a lesson for Shin Tae-yong so that in the future he can be more careful and can learn from the experience of Indonesia's match against China. but honestly, I am also impressed with Shin Tae-yong because all this time he has trained the Indonesian national team well and of course up to now he is very good and of course there is still hope and opportunity for Shin Tae-yong to bring the Indonesian national team to get tickets to the 2026 world cup. .

Yes, of course Japan is the next opponent and of course it will not be easy for Indonesia to beat Japan, because Japan is a country that always takes part in the World Cup and has good abilities. However, I am sure that with Indonesia's current abilities, of course there is potential for Indonesia to beat Japan and the Indonesian national team players will definitely appear confident in the next match against Japan.and I hope Indonesia can play in the world cup.

I think China is far bad Indonesia although Indonesia is not as strong.  Had they played well and maintained their record, they would have been able to garner praise like Indonesia.My opinion is that the coach and management are not that much needed although the players should see that they play well and score more goals during the match. Then they will become stronger and play at a higher level. In all these you can see that Indonesia is playing well or the coach is playing well. They play the game by taking it upon themselves.

Nah no problem. Win some lose some, and even if Japan passed my last selection also only drew, missed the big wins of Argentina and Brazil but the odds weren't so great anyway.

Two own goals was definitely the highlight of that game. Australia must have thought they could hold on for the win, but Japan's attack continues to prove they have to be a strong favorite from Asia. Getting better and better each game really.

South Korea comfortable win? It was 3-2 after injury massacre lol

Argentina, Brazil and Colombia won FIFA World Cup qualifiers. The matches between these three teams were really impressive to watch as all the three teams managed to win by huge margin of goals.Argentina football team faced Bolivia football team. In this match we saw the Argentinian players dominating the game and we were really impressed with the outstanding performance of Lionel Messi in particular. After a long time, we saw Lionel Messi score a hat-trick in an international match. Argentina are still number one among the South American teams in the World Cup qualifiers with a great win in this match.

On the other hand, looking at the performance of the Brazilian team, it seems that they have improved themselves quite well, but their performance was not up to expectations even a few days ago. Brazil beat Peru 4-0 Goals to win two matches in a row.

I think fatal mistake made by Indonesia head coach Shin Tae-yong when putting the central midfielder Tom Haye on the bench and make Indonesia's game not effective on the first half. I think difference if Tom Haye played on the first minutes how his creativities create assists and possibilities for scoring goals.
Its first time for Indonesian team got defeated on qualifying match after success being draw three matches with the top national team from Saudi Arabia, Australia and Bahrain as away match.

The next qualifying match on November, Indonesia have very difficult match although with playing home because have to face Japan and Saudi Arabia but advantage with two consecutives home matches should be effective for securing six points to make Indonesia standing reach the higher place. Remaining two points from the second place not close opportunity for Indonesia get directly qualify to World Cup 2026 or finish on 3rd and 4th place get playoff round again.

But for this match China was very lucky because Indonesia game was very dominant in possession of the ball but made many mistakes, in some conditions Indonesian players often ignored certain positions which created empty spaces and Indonesian players also made mistakes with inappropriate decision making.
Only Indonesian player who I think always performed less than optimally was Witan but he played from the start in the match against China, usually Witan always sat on the bench and if he played it was in the final minutes, I was quite disappointed with Shin Tae-yong decision in using the line-up, it should have been like before which prioritized naturalized players to enter at the beginning.
But everything has happened and Indonesia game is very unsatisfactory, they can't really penetrate China defense which is always full at the back when Indonesia makes an attack attempt, I lost my bet from the defeat with score of 2 - 1.

China took advantage of the opportunity and managed to steal a goal, but STY, who is the head coach of the Indonesian National Team, was too optimistic to play Shayne Pattynama, Witan Sulaeman, Asnawi Mangkualam, Mees Hilgers, and in the end in the first half the game was not so good, when the second half the four players were pulled it was clear that the game was getting more lively when Rizky Ridho, Pratama Arhan, Thom Haye and Marselino Ferdinan, played all changed drastically even though STY did not play the 4 players as starters at least this could be a lesson for STY and at least Indonesia's performance was good enough, although to reach position 2 in the standings it was only a few percent, but that is if Indonesia is able to defeat Japan in November even though it is difficult at least the opportunity for position 2 can be achieved by Indonesia to qualify directly for the World Cup, without having to enter the 4th round of the World Cup qualification.

China surprised us in 1st half. Their team is solid to build attack and mess up the Indonesia strategy.
In other side, Indonesia defense is look bad, I watch several time Indonesia defender let a ball flow to china attacker and off the field without make an effort to guard it.
I think this match is appropriate to china, they played very well, and Indonesia must fix the coordination team if they want still road on world cup 2026.
there's nothing to blame at this time beside Indonesia team self.

I was bets on Indonesia today and they have good odds approximatelly @2.21 but unfortunately they were lost today and at the lineup we can see it that Indonesia manager Shin Tae-yong did several changes into Indonesian squad and the players such as Asnawi Mangkualam and Shayne Pattynama who did not play in the previous match were played since the beginning of matches but these players didn't performing well because they did some mistakes which makes Indonesia have to conceded 2 goals in the first half

Actually Shin Tae-yong has been realize that his strategy didn't run well so that's why at the second half he did several changes and actually after replace some players Indonesia was performing better and they can dominate the match but apparently it was late because after leading the game China has decide to playing more defensive which makes Indonesian players not gets much opportunities to scores

This result make Indonesia failed to gets their first winning in this competition and Indonesia journey to qualified to the next round will be more difficult especially they have to facing the teams such as Japan, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain at their home ground but as long as Indonesia not lost from these teams and if possible can win from them then i am sure Indonesia at least will finish at 3rd place or 4th place

Before the match started, actually Indonesia had great hopes to get their first 3 points from China, remembering China's poor performance in some of their previous matches, but precisely what I feared before also happened after seeing China ambition and also China game in the match, although actually Indonesia was able to control the game and continue to pressure China, but they forgot that China counterattack was actually very dangerous.
Today match should be a lesson for Shin Tae-yong who in my opinion actually underestimates China by experimenting with formation in the match, after consecutive draws against strong teams, I dont why did Shin Tae-yong use a 5-back formation when they needed 3 points in the match, even though, the formation when facing Bahrain is actually quite capable in attacking and defending ?
In the second half, Shin Tae-yong changed the formation of the game by inserting several players who had attacking abilities but unfortunately that is has too late for Indonesian .

Every country deserves to win. In the recent times football has taken a different direction whereby the weaker countries which could not defeat their opponent in those days are now playing well. All is determination and providing a good squad in the National Team. I didn't watch the Match but normally China always tried their best in the National Team but their defence is not good enough to protect the area. And Indonesia too is also a good team but when there is no luck on your side, you lose. Like the coach of the Black Stars in Ghana was paranoid with the players when they could not scored Niger Republic, but he has to know that Niger Republic is a country which means they are also training everytime when they are planning to play with another country and also change players to be fit the team.

I believed this world cup will be an another interesting one to watch I will not like to miss any game.

Your doubts seem to have come true, friend. Because the Indonesian national team experienced a narrow defeat by China. And as you said the Indonesian national team lost its consistency in the first half. And their performance only returned in the second half when they were already 2 goals behind from the first half. For those of us who support the Indonesian national team, of course this result is quite painful. But China deserved to win the match. because their defense was quite solid in that match. It seems like China has learned a lot since they experienced consecutive defeats against other teams before Indonesia.

South Korea managed to win the match against Iraq as expected from South Korea, which has always been quite consistent with its strength. But unfortunately for the Japan vs Australia match, it turned out that Japan failed to get full points because they were held to a draw by Australia.

I am not that following closely what's happening in Asian Qualifiers but I do thought Indonesia to win against China and Japan to win against Australia. That turned up to be false in both games.
South Korea to win against Iraq is something that would be expected but I am not that sure because Iraqis aren't that bad in football.

No good end for the Indonesia team as they have draw against Australia and Saudi Arab with things were favourable for them to have their first win improvement in chances for staying into hunt for the fourth stage qualification, but we have not good finishing from them in second half while they were in better position and completely control of the game.

China which were having not good performance in their first three games done good work and have two early goals which help them for having staying into hunt for their first win of the third stage matches with this win China is still at the bottom and Indonesia is now having their next game Japan is surely not good because now things can turn into bad for them while China will visit Bahrain for their next game.

Congratulations to China for their first win after successfully beating the Indonesian national team with a score of 2-1. In this match, China showed a fairly strong defense. And I also saw Indonesia fighting very hard, especially in the second half. In the first half Indonesia did not play very well but in the second half Indonesia played very well. Unfortunately, Indonesia was only able to reply with 1 goal in the second half.

And for the other match today, Japan was held to a draw by Australia. And I think this result is not that surprising considering that Japan and Australia are two equally strong teams. And in another match, South Korea managed to beat Iraq.
And the matches currently taking place are Kyrgyzstan vs North Korea and Uzbekistan vs United Arab Emirates.

As I expected, the Indonesian coach immediately put in some of his players at the beginning of the second half. and that managed to change their game to be stronger. Indonesia did play a tight-pressure game. but China's defense must be admitted to be very strong.
this is football, those who are behind will improve their game. and those who are superior will slow down the tempo of the game. that's what we see now in the China vs Indonesia match.
Indonesia also managed to score 1 goal even though it had to admit China's superiority this time. not a bad match. these teams are indeed past until the 3rd round of qualification.