Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 309. (Read 64537 times)
January 06, 2023, 03:37:30 PM
I don't think it's optimal for the teams in terms of logistics. If you have to travel from the North of America to Mexico for a match, it has a lot of influence. I am not only talking about the travel time, but also about the difference in temperature. It is a nice initiative that they organize it in 3 countries, but far from ideal for players and teams. I assume that all top countries will qualify for the tournament without any problems. The advantage for Canada is that they have already qualified in this way because they are also an organizing country of the tournament. Mexico and the USA should normally be strong enough to qualify on their own.
January 06, 2023, 09:18:57 AM
And my personal assumptions is that, US, being the world power probably does not want their territories to be over populated with immigrants, this could be the reason for the so strict requirements and documentation process to enter the country.
Your assumption may not be false but they have to be ready for more people that will troop in into the state in guise of coming to watch the next world cup. USA is a cherish country desirable by many to live in, so they have to expect that to happen. Among the three countries hosting the game, USA is hosting more of the games and that means more immigration of people to USA than Mexico and Canada.
January 06, 2023, 09:18:48 AM
People who move to the United States illegally as refugees do it because they are seeking for a better life, keeping that in mind, I agree with you.
Most of the Mexican and South Americans that will go the USA because the World Cup will be people with money without need to move out desperation, most of them will go back to their respective countries after the football party.
The border is crossed irregularly everyday and most people won't wait for World Cup to do so.
I guess we should not involve politics with the game. Lets hope that the fifa world cup will be played in best of spirit and there is no political and geographical tensions. Lets keep aside the things like border crossing and refuges etc.
I hope the fifa matches in Mexico will happen in peace too as they will happen in USA and Canada. And there will be everything regulated and no illegal border crossing.
January 06, 2023, 08:58:54 AM
People who move to the United States illegally as refugees do it because they are seeking for a better life, keeping that in mind, I agree with you.
Most of the Mexican and South Americans that will go the USA because the World Cup will be people with money without need to move out desperation, most of them will go back to their respective countries after the football party.
The border is crossed irregularly everyday and most people won't wait for World Cup to do so.
I guess we should not involve politics with the game. Lets hope that the fifa world cup will be played in best of spirit and there is no political and geographical tensions. Lets keep aside the things like border crossing and refuges etc.
I hope the fifa matches in Mexico will happen in peace too as they will happen in USA and Canada. And there will be everything regulated and no illegal border crossing.
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January 06, 2023, 08:27:32 AM
People who move to the United States illegally as refugees do it because they are seeking for a better life, keeping that in mind, I agree with you.
Most of the Mexican and South Americans that will go the USA because the World Cup will be people with money without need to move out desperation, most of them will go back to their respective countries after the football party.
The border is crossed irregularly everyday and most people won't wait for World Cup to do so.
Most of the Mexican and South Americans that will go the USA because the World Cup will be people with money without need to move out desperation, most of them will go back to their respective countries after the football party.
The border is crossed irregularly everyday and most people won't wait for World Cup to do so.
Well. My question is this:
Why enforce all this useless restrictions and backlog for getting a US visa, when millions of illegal immigrants can easily cross the border?
Anyone who want to attend the world cup need to go through this frustrating process and there is no guarantee that they will get a visa. Either enforce the restrictions to both the groups (legal and illegal migrants), or remove the restrictions. Under the current system, those who go through the legal route are being punished and those who do it illegally are being rewarded.
Isn't this the number one reason why those who can not fulfill the required processes to enter US legally, have resorted to entering US illegally?
And my personal assumptions is that, US, being the world power probably does not want their territories to be over populated with immigrants, this could be the reason for the so strict requirements and documentation process to enter the country.
January 05, 2023, 11:30:44 PM
South American (CONMEBOL) FIFA World Cup 2026 qualifiers already started with some drama:
As you can see, instead of the usual 4.5 slots, they will now have 6.5 slots, that is 6 teams will directly qualify to the world cup and the 7th place will have to go to the play offs to get a spot.
Interestingly though, you can see that Ecuador starts with -3 points. That's because:
I find it very strange that FIFA ended up not doing anything for the previous world cup and letting Ecuador play, and only now they say that the player was ineligible.
That is just the way FIFA does things, FIFA has never liked to settle things that were decided on the field outside of it, personally I always thought the case against Ecuador had enough grounds to disqualified them from Qatar, but FIFA simply refused to do this and only now they are applying a symbolic sanction against them, however with the increase on the number of spots available to the next world cup I do not think this is going to be too much of a problem for Ecuador. As you can see, instead of the usual 4.5 slots, they will now have 6.5 slots, that is 6 teams will directly qualify to the world cup and the 7th place will have to go to the play offs to get a spot.
Interestingly though, you can see that Ecuador starts with -3 points. That's because:
Ecuador were deducted 3 points for falsifying birth documents for Byron Castillo in the previous World Cup qualification cycle.
I find it very strange that FIFA ended up not doing anything for the previous world cup and letting Ecuador play, and only now they say that the player was ineligible.
January 05, 2023, 11:12:24 PM
People who move to the United States illegally as refugees do it because they are seeking for a better life, keeping that in mind, I agree with you.
Most of the Mexican and South Americans that will go the USA because the World Cup will be people with money without need to move out desperation, most of them will go back to their respective countries after the football party.
The border is crossed irregularly everyday and most people won't wait for World Cup to do so.
Most of the Mexican and South Americans that will go the USA because the World Cup will be people with money without need to move out desperation, most of them will go back to their respective countries after the football party.
The border is crossed irregularly everyday and most people won't wait for World Cup to do so.
Well. My question is this:
Why enforce all this useless restrictions and backlog for getting a US visa, when millions of illegal immigrants can easily cross the border?
Anyone who want to attend the world cup need to go through this frustrating process and there is no guarantee that they will get a visa. Either enforce the restrictions to both the groups (legal and illegal migrants), or remove the restrictions. Under the current system, those who go through the legal route are being punished and those who do it illegally are being rewarded.
January 05, 2023, 10:23:40 PM
People will be planning to move to USA in 2026 and they won't come back that is for sure. I am sure many people will escape in America and Canada.
If people can afford flight tickets to the USA and packages to watch the world cup matches, then for sure they can afford regular visa to the US as well. But the problem is that the immigration system is completely broken out there. Millions of illegal immigrants in their caravans can cross the border without any issue, but those who apply legally need to wait for many years before they get a chance of visa hearing (especially those from India and China). Already there are close to 12 million illegals (politically correct terms is "unauthorized immigrants" or "undocumented immigrants") residing in the United States and any addition to this number will be like a drop in the bucket.
Many people would certainly use the world cup hosting opportunity to migrate to the US, Canada, and even Mexico. These countries might also need workers that would add to the manpower they already have. Migrating to the US and Canada currently is very difficult because of so many guidelines and requirements but the world cup would give many that uncommon opportunity.
As you rightly pointed out the American immigration system is promoting illegal immigration because of its policies. In my country, the US embassy has a backlog of applicants that they would process till 2024. So if you apply for an American Visa this year, you would be interviewed in 2025. This has made many people seek risky illegal routes through the Mexican border.
January 05, 2023, 09:53:44 PM
People who move to the United States illegally as refugees do it because they are seeking for a better life, keeping that in mind, I agree with you.
Most of the Mexican and South Americans that will go the USA because the World Cup will be people with money without need to move out desperation, most of them will go back to their respective countries after the football party.
The border is crossed irregularly everyday and most people won't wait for World Cup to do so.
January 05, 2023, 09:30:13 PM
People will be planning to move to USA in 2026 and they won't come back that is for sure. I am sure many people will escape in America and Canada.
If people can afford flight tickets to the USA and packages to watch the world cup matches, then for sure they can afford regular visa to the US as well. But the problem is that the immigration system is completely broken out there. Millions of illegal immigrants in their caravans can cross the border without any issue, but those who apply legally need to wait for many years before they get a chance of visa hearing (especially those from India and China). Already there are close to 12 million illegals (politically correct terms is "unauthorized immigrants" or "undocumented immigrants") residing in the United States and any addition to this number will be like a drop in the bucket.
January 05, 2023, 06:18:03 PM
It will be the world cup with significant changes. More teams participating means a more exciting tournament. In addition, the duration of the tournament will naturally be extended. I'm sure it will be more enjoyable when you think about it from this angle. It may become more enjoyable if surprise results such as the 2022 World Cup are obtained. I am already looking forward to the tournament in 4 years.
You mean it will be more enjoyable? Do you mean we are not contented with the ones we had been watching? Just imagine the stress you will have to face when you need to go to different countries just to watch the world cup live in the stadium. This is not an enjoyment for me but a big stress to fans having to move from the current country where they had been watch the world cup match then moving to a new country to continue there football adventure. It really not nice and this looks like the first time we are seeing this kind of multiple countries hosting the world cup.
Another thing to note is that the fifa world cup comes after every four years and this means that not many countries will get a chance to host the world cup. If you ask me, Canada and Mexico may never get a chance to independently host the FIFA world cup. But with this joint world cup hosting, the nations of both Canada and Mexico should be proud to a part of hosting the fifa world cup 2026.
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January 05, 2023, 03:36:05 PM
^^^ One thing that I liked about Qatar 2022 is that it was quite easy for the fans to travel from one location to the other. Qatar also has a relaxed visa regimen, which helped a lot of football fans. On the other hand, getting a US visa is a really tough job and I just hope that the government would relax the requirements for global fans. Also, staging in three different countries, which are thousands of kilometers apart sounds like a bad idea for me. Given the extended duration for the next edition, it will only result in fatigue and exhaustion for the fans.
I think the USA will do some work on the World Cup. In addition, there may be a lot of people who want to go to the world cup as fans and stay in the USA, they can make changes in visa conditions to prevent them. I observed Qatar as a good host. The stadiums were very good, the matches were really exciting. Moreover, Messi is the champion, what more could I ask for. 
January 05, 2023, 01:40:30 PM
^^^ One thing that I liked about Qatar 2022 is that it was quite easy for the fans to travel from one location to the other. Qatar also has a relaxed visa regimen, which helped a lot of football fans. On the other hand, getting a US visa is a really tough job and I just hope that the government would relax the requirements for global fans. Also, staging in three different countries, which are thousands of kilometers apart sounds like a bad idea for me. Given the extended duration for the next edition, it will only result in fatigue and exhaustion for the fans.
I think the USA will do some work on the World Cup. In addition, there may be a lot of people who want to go to the world cup as fans and stay in the USA, they can make changes in visa conditions to prevent them. I observed Qatar as a good host. The stadiums were very good, the matches were really exciting. Moreover, Messi is the champion, what more could I ask for. 
January 05, 2023, 11:32:13 AM
^^^ One thing that I liked about Qatar 2022 is that it was quite easy for the fans to travel from one location to the other. Qatar also has a relaxed visa regimen, which helped a lot of football fans. On the other hand, getting a US visa is a really tough job and I just hope that the government would relax the requirements for global fans. Also, staging in three different countries, which are thousands of kilometers apart sounds like a bad idea for me. Given the extended duration for the next edition, it will only result in fatigue and exhaustion for the fans.
I think the USA will do some work on the World Cup. In addition, there may be a lot of people who want to go to the world cup as fans and stay in the USA, they can make changes in visa conditions to prevent them. I observed Qatar as a good host. The stadiums were very good, the matches were really exciting. Moreover, Messi is the champion, what more could I ask for. 
January 05, 2023, 06:46:17 AM
New teams only mean quantity, but unfortunately not quality.
It all boils down to politics and making money, which is what FIFA is best at, and all of that has nothing to do with football.
FIFA should have given more places to Europe and less to Asia, Africa and North America, but apparently the top of FIFA is preparing for new elections and counting on the votes of delegates from those continents.
So, in the next World Cup in 2026, we will have more national teams and more matches, which will increase FIFA's earnings, but the quality of the competition will decrease because we will see more boring matches between weaker teams.
It all boils down to politics and making money, which is what FIFA is best at, and all of that has nothing to do with football.
FIFA should have given more places to Europe and less to Asia, Africa and North America, but apparently the top of FIFA is preparing for new elections and counting on the votes of delegates from those continents.
So, in the next World Cup in 2026, we will have more national teams and more matches, which will increase FIFA's earnings, but the quality of the competition will decrease because we will see more boring matches between weaker teams.
I agree with you that FIFA is more about politics and money than football, but I disagree with more spots to Europe.
This is the spots for 2022:
AFC - 6
CONCACAF - 4
UEFA - 13
CAF - 5
CONMEBOL - 4
OFC - 0
For 2026:
AFC - 8
CONCACAF - 6
UEFA - 16
CAF - 9
CONMEBOL - 6
OFC - 1
In my opinion, more spots to places like Africa and Oceania will really help to spread football to more places than giving only to Europe or South America for example.
And a World Cup is a tournament to help spread football to the whole planet.
In your opinion, how many spots Europe deserves to 2026?
January 05, 2023, 05:10:42 AM
The more teams the better in terms of global football advertising but I ask about the quality of the teams that will be added because of the more slots,most likely if they were as of good quality as they claim they should have qualified in the 2022 cup and had no trouble to do so.Apparently though FIFA knows that they are not as good as they claim and such FIFA added the number of teams participating in the 2026 cup in order to be more inclusive and to make more people and countries happy.I agree with FIFA but I do not expect any good performance from the new teams that will perform in the 2026 cup.
I have already answered about this in one of the other threads. The most one-sided match in FIFA 2022 was between Portugal and Switzerland. We are talking about two teams, who would have qualified even if the number of teams are reduced. On the other hand, lowest ranked teams such as Morocco, Cameroon and Australia all performed credible during the tournament. I am in full support for the expansion by FIFA to 48 teams. It will maintain the quality and make sure that there is representation from all around the globe.
January 05, 2023, 05:05:55 AM
I see everyone is anxious to 2026 haha, maybe in a few days this thread will get to 2nd or 3rd page but soon the Qualifies will start
This time the qualifying tournament is going to be much more exciting, especially with the AFC, CAF and OFC confederations. The reason is that for the 2026 world cup there will be more slots from these regions. For example, for Asia there will be 8.33 slots in 2026 instead of 4.5 in 2022. And this means that some of the good teams that previously failed to qualify for the main tournament, such as Uzbekistan and United Arab Emirates have good chances to do so this time. The same can be said about the CAF and OFC qualifiers as well.
The more teams the better in terms of global football advertising but I ask about the quality of the teams that will be added because of the more slots,most likely if they were as of good quality as they claim they should have qualified in the 2022 cup and had no trouble to do so.Apparently though FIFA knows that they are not as good as they claim and such FIFA added the number of teams participating in the 2026 cup in order to be more inclusive and to make more people and countries happy.I agree with FIFA but I do not expect any good performance from the new teams that will perform in the 2026 cup.
New teams only mean quantity, but unfortunately not quality.
It all boils down to politics and making money, which is what FIFA is best at, and all of that has nothing to do with football.
FIFA should have given more places to Europe and less to Asia, Africa and North America, but apparently the top of FIFA is preparing for new elections and counting on the votes of delegates from those continents.
So, in the next World Cup in 2026, we will have more national teams and more matches, which will increase FIFA's earnings, but the quality of the competition will decrease because we will see more boring matches between weaker teams.
January 05, 2023, 03:20:47 AM
I see everyone is anxious to 2026 haha, maybe in a few days this thread will get to 2nd or 3rd page but soon the Qualifies will start
This time the qualifying tournament is going to be much more exciting, especially with the AFC, CAF and OFC confederations. The reason is that for the 2026 world cup there will be more slots from these regions. For example, for Asia there will be 8.33 slots in 2026 instead of 4.5 in 2022. And this means that some of the good teams that previously failed to qualify for the main tournament, such as Uzbekistan and United Arab Emirates have good chances to do so this time. The same can be said about the CAF and OFC qualifiers as well.
The more teams the better in terms of global football advertising but I ask about the quality of the teams that will be added because of the more slots,most likely if they were as of good quality as they claim they should have qualified in the 2022 cup and had no trouble to do so.Apparently though FIFA knows that they are not as good as they claim and such FIFA added the number of teams participating in the 2026 cup in order to be more inclusive and to make more people and countries happy.I agree with FIFA but I do not expect any good performance from the new teams that will perform in the 2026 cup.
January 04, 2023, 10:50:06 PM
I see everyone is anxious to 2026 haha, maybe in a few days this thread will get to 2nd or 3rd page but soon the Qualifies will start
This time the qualifying tournament is going to be much more exciting, especially with the AFC, CAF and OFC confederations. The reason is that for the 2026 world cup there will be more slots from these regions. For example, for Asia there will be 8.33 slots in 2026 instead of 4.5 in 2022. And this means that some of the good teams that previously failed to qualify for the main tournament, such as Uzbekistan and United Arab Emirates have good chances to do so this time. The same can be said about the CAF and OFC qualifiers as well.
January 04, 2023, 08:09:56 AM
If the FIFA has a simple system in place, then it will be good. What I don't want is fans getting their travel plans cancelled at the last minute, because the American embassy will not issue them a tourist visa. I know how hard it is to get a tourist visa for the United States, and I have seen multiple occasions of visa applications getting rejected after many months of waiting. I don't know much about the visa requirements for Canada and Mexico, but I guess the situation is much better that what they have in the United States.
AFAIK you can enter in Mexico and Canada with a valid US visa, at least for my country, this is the rule, you don't need separate visa, so the fans will probably have to get the US visa only.
I don't know if this rule will remain until 2026, but I'm sure they talk about visa when US submitted the application to FIFA.
If you want my opinion, I think fans will not have problems to visit US to watch the games, the World Cup will be a good reason to any fan ask for a visa, and if you match the criteria that US asks, you'll be fine.
And the recommendation of US is always buy the flight after the visa, never before the application.
I see everyone is anxious to 2026 haha, maybe in a few days this thread will get to 2nd or 3rd page but soon the Qualifies will start
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