FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 310.

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FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will begin for several months later.

If the official PSSI is still money-oriented and power-hungry, that look hard for Indonesia to go to the next world cup in 2026. Right now, the official is still busy preparing the Election chairman of PSSI. and they forget about world cup 2026 preparation, they forget also if the plan to qualification is not easy and needs much time to prepare to select the player, coach, and new talent.

So, I don't expect too much, that looks impossible if you hope to qualified. Indonesia's Team is the same as before, don't have motivation as a participant, because the loss is a habit, and the official is never thinking about how to receive achievement, next world cup 2026 I am still pessimistic that Indonesia is still a spectator.

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Ecuador was able to play in the previous world cup, but they will probably not be able to qualify for this one as they got a 3 points penalty from FIFA.

Quote from: https://africa.espn.com/football/ecuador-ecu/story/4796170/ecuador-keep-2022-world-cup-spot-but-get-2026-qualifying-point-deduction

Ecuador will play at this year's World Cup in Qatar after the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) on Tuesday said Byron Castillo, whom Chile claimed was ineligible to play during the qualifiers, was deemed an Ecuadorean national.

Ecuador will, however, get a three-point deduction at the start of the qualifying campaign for the 2026 World Cup and must also pay a fine of 100,000 Swiss Francs ($101,605.36) for the "use of a document containing false information," CAS said.

It seems pretty strange that they got away with only just 3 points deduction and being able to play in the previous world cup.

I mean, this shows that Ecuador indeed did the wrong thing, but apparently it was too late to make changes.

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We had the 2010 World Cup in South Africa and it was conducted without any safety issues. The same can be said about the 2014 World Cup, which was held in Brazil. Both these countries do have very high murder rates. And in Brazil and South Africa (and in Mexico as well) the crime ridden areas are located far away from the major urban centers. On the other hand, in the United States the major urban metropolitan areas are more crime ridden when compared to the rural localities. If you are concerned about crime, then I guess you need to worry about the US more than the case with Mexico.

I know this post commenting on the current situation in Mexico was from a few days ago, but I wat to share my opinion.

@Sithara007, what you said is true, Brazil was or still is one of the most violent countries in the world, when Brazil was chosen to host the World Cup in 2014, many people were afraid about the security of that country, especially, the tourists.
But at least, everything went well during the 2014 World Cup.

I think that if the situation in Mexico gets worse over time or the crime level is extremely high just before the 2026 world cup, I have no doubt that the United States or Canada will be able to hold those games that would be in the Mexico in their countries.

I believe that one of the worst negative points in this regard will be the tourists, as there will be tourists who have bought tickets, plane tickets and even hotel advance, and at the end of the day, they will not be able to attend this great event that it's the world cup.
Well... I know that companies can reverse payments, but this will become a disappointing and delicate situation to resolve.

Well.. 2026 is still three years away and therefore I don't want to make any predictions. Back in 2022, Mexico reported 31,127 violent homicides at a rate of 86 murders every day. Numbers are slightly down from the 2020 and 2019 figures (94 and 95 per day respectively). Juarez on the US border is regarded as the murder capital of Mexico, and that city saw 1,045 murders in 2022 (compared to 1,420 in 2021). Ciudad Juárez isn't that big. It has a population of just 1.5 million.

My concern is that crime rate in Mexico actually went up after 2016-2017 and even now it hasn't shown any hint of slowing down. Check the murder rates by year, in the image below:

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 17, 2023, 02:30:49 AM

We had the 2010 World Cup in South Africa and it was conducted without any safety issues. The same can be said about the 2014 World Cup, which was held in Brazil. Both these countries do have very high murder rates. And in Brazil and South Africa (and in Mexico as well) the crime ridden areas are located far away from the major urban centers. On the other hand, in the United States the major urban metropolitan areas are more crime ridden when compared to the rural localities. If you are concerned about crime, then I guess you need to worry about the US more than the case with Mexico.

I know this post commenting on the current situation in Mexico was from a few days ago, but I wat to share my opinion.

@Sithara007, what you said is true, Brazil was or still is one of the most violent countries in the world, when Brazil was chosen to host the World Cup in 2014, many people were afraid about the security of that country, especially, the tourists.
But at least, everything went well during the 2014 World Cup.

I think that if the situation in Mexico gets worse over time or the crime level is extremely high just before the 2026 world cup, I have no doubt that the United States or Canada will be able to hold those games that would be in the Mexico in their countries.

I believe that one of the worst negative points in this regard will be the tourists, as there will be tourists who have bought tickets, plane tickets and even hotel advance, and at the end of the day, they will not be able to attend this great event that it's the world cup.
Well... I know that companies can reverse payments, but this will become a disappointing and delicate situation to resolve.

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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

I am from Pakistan and we have been through this situation where we were denied hosting any international cricket match for 10 years because there was a terrorist attack on the Srilanka team in our country.
That is now history but the rival countries always hesitate to visit our country and give excuses of that event. This is not right as the security situation is improved over time.
I hope Mexico does not face the same unjustice situation which we have been facing for the last many years.

This same thing happens in India also that made FIFA to ban India n football federation from participating in football and other similar sports because of what had ensue many years ago. I don't blame anyone for this but this most time could be as a result of insecurity that lead to the rampage causing a serious scene that had lead to sanctions.

When allocating a country that would host the world cup, there are many things that FIFA used to put in consideration in entails the safety of every athletes, hotel to lodge, security and so many other factors to prevent natural or man made disaster. No country would be happy hearing that the lives of there players was lost as a result of hist country not able to safeguard the life of their players and fans.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on January 19, 2023, 06:27:18 AM

This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

I am from Pakistan and we have been through this situation where we were denied hosting any international cricket match for 10 years because there was a terrorist attack on the Srilanka team in our country.
That is now history but the rival countries always hesitate to visit our country and give excuses of that event. This is not right as the security situation is improved over time.
I hope Mexico does not face the same unjustice situation which we have been facing for the last many years.

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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

Media should not relate this incident with the Mexico to host the FIFA world cup because of two reasons.

First, there is still four year before the world cup will be played and a bad security condition at this point, does not mean that there is no roam for improvement. Mexico can take measures to improve their law and order conditions and more importantly there will be more security deployed when the world cup matches will be in progress in Mexico and the risk of an unfortunate incident will be reduced a lot.

I agree with you, the current security issues in Mexico is not an issue at all if you ask me, this is because like you rightly stated, we still have four good years to the tournament, there is a high possibility that before then, the security challenges faced by the country must have improved.
And besides, I Think FIFA themselves knew about the security issues and still went ahead to choose Mexico as one of the three countries to host the 2026 world cup, it shows that the current security issues in Mexico is not a problem to them at all.

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Also, these Mexican cartel won't be messing with any foreigners that will be around in their country during these games because surely, the respective nations will hunt them down and destroy each one of them until their whole business will turn into ash and I bet they don't want those things to happen. Besides, it's also their pride that their country will be hosting some of the World Cup games and they know that these things are rare.

I agree that Mexico may not want foreigners to have a negative experience while visiting for the World Cup, but we also can't assume that they will be able to completely prevent any crime or violence from occurring. Additionally, the idea that the Mexican government would be able to control and prevent all crime during such a large event is unrealistic. It's important to remember that crime and violence exist in all countries and it's important for visitors to take necessary safety precautions. It's also important to note that Mexico has the right to handle its internal issues and it's not fair to assume that other countries should intervene

Yes, it is indeed unrealistic believing that the Mexican government can handle the situation well and prevent such things from occurring in the said event because they can't even handle the chaotic cartels inside their jurisdiction, what more about these said events? Well, I'm also one of the hundreds of thousands of people that is hoping that there won't be any chaos during these games.

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It's also important to note that Mexico has the right to handle its internal issues and it's not fair to assume that other countries should intervene

If the issues are just an internal problem that are occurring almost every day, then indeed, the Mexico has every right to handle and solve the situation. But these things will change if there's an unfortunate event that a foreigner will be involved in such disaster, the countries will do everything on their power to intervene and to help solve the case as soon as possible. Truth is, this is not new anymore because there's a lot of documentaries about these stuffs.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on January 19, 2023, 06:27:18 AM

This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

Media should not relate this incident with the Mexico to host the FIFA world cup because of two reasons.

First, there is still four year before the world cup will be played and a bad security condition at this point, does not mean that there is no roam for improvement. Mexico can take measures to improve their law and order conditions and more importantly there will be more security deployed when the world cup matches will be in progress in Mexico and the risk of an unfortunate incident will be reduced a lot.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 20, 2023, 10:05:08 AM

Well, from the point of view that people experienced different types of situations, it is something that did happen, but I also think that people who enter a country they don't know should at least read its rules, the things they like or the things they they should and should not be done, so we know that this country of Qatar is a country with very strict rules, and that one as a visitor must abide by the rules, so every person who wanted to do what they wanted cannot because they simply cannot Getting to do whatever is like going to a neighbor's house to give orders, when you already know that in that home there are rules and regulations to follow.

I believe that the rules of the countries are not something to worry about in the 2026 World Cup.
First, because they must be much more flexible or tolerable than the rules that were imposed in the World Cup in Qatar.
Second, because in a world cup scenario and moment, the rules tend to be a little more flexible for visitors, as it would be very bad for countries if they strictly applied fines and prisons to each breach of their rules.

I did some research, and the most intriguing law I found was one for Canada that says it's illegal to make very large snowmen Cheesy

So, specifically on the streets of the port city of Souris, on Prince Edward Island, no competition for the biggest snowman. Because on land on street corners snowmen cannot be more than 76.2 cm in height

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I don't know how many people would agree with me, but IMO Qatar 2022 was a disaster. Obviously the Qataris were able to splash all their wealth and many of the westerners were in awe. But then, the fans were left high and dry with all the restrictions. What is the point in having a major tournament like this, if the fans can't relax and enjoy themselves? There was this last minute restrictions on alcoholic beverages. And the Qataris very cunningly announced it just two days before the first match, to make sure that all the fans have already booked their ticket. And then there was extreme discrimination against unmarried couples and LGBT people. I just hope that FIFA will never allow regressive countries such as Qatar to host such tournaments in the future.

Yeah, there were organizational issues, but the tournament itself, the football, was quite entertaining.

It was a great tournament, with lots of talented people, and many surprises.

I enjoyed watching it a lot.

It depends from which side are you looking at the World Cup 2022. If you watched it on a TV from your home, everything was great and most of the games were interesting. However I'm sure that fans that were stopped in the airport because they didn't get their visa on time. There was a situation where two guys payed almost $3000 for a game and airplane ticket to go to one game. One guy got his visa and the other guy didn't get it in time. The guy without a visa got stopped from entering a plane in Frankfurt, Germany and his friend didn't want to go alone. In the end not only have they lost $3000, they had to buy another plane ticket to get home from Frankfurt.

And then there were those discriminate situations where something that is normal in "our" world was forbidden in Qatar, but I won't go into that.

Well, from the point of view that people experienced different types of situations, it is something that did happen, but I also think that people who enter a country they don't know should at least read its rules, the things they like or the things they they should and should not be done, so we know that this country of Qatar is a country with very strict rules, and that one as a visitor must abide by the rules, so every person who wanted to do what they wanted cannot because they simply cannot Getting to do whatever is like going to a neighbor's house to give orders, when you already know that in that home there are rules and regulations to follow.

You are definitely right, but I am also wondering, where does one get the rules of a country they just entered, to read?, is there a place in the airport where rules guiding the country is written for incoming tourists or immigrants to read and get themselves acquainted?
I think it would have been more appropriate to say that before anyone start making plans of moving or visiting another country, they should try to find out the rules that govern such a country, and make sure to write the rules down for themselves so that they can easily pick it up anytime and scan through it to remind themselves of one of two things they might have forgotten, most especially, for countries where rules are enforced with stringent order.

Though for me, it will take something really important for me to travel to a country where I am not comfortable with their rules.

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I am come from Indonesia and due FIFA World Cup history my national team always failed reach qualify to final round in World Cup, due 16 countries added in FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States I hope have chance and opportunity with my country can play for the first time in FIFA World Cup.

I checked with Asian zone have added about 8 countries or national team will get automatic ticket playing for FIFA World Cup, will have bigger chance because our national team success qualify to Asian Cup in this years and I hope can success at qualify for
FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will begin for several months later.

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I don't know how many people would agree with me, but IMO Qatar 2022 was a disaster. Obviously the Qataris were able to splash all their wealth and many of the westerners were in awe. But then, the fans were left high and dry with all the restrictions. What is the point in having a major tournament like this, if the fans can't relax and enjoy themselves? There was this last minute restrictions on alcoholic beverages. And the Qataris very cunningly announced it just two days before the first match, to make sure that all the fans have already booked their ticket. And then there was extreme discrimination against unmarried couples and LGBT people. I just hope that FIFA will never allow regressive countries such as Qatar to host such tournaments in the future.

Yeah, there were organizational issues, but the tournament itself, the football, was quite entertaining.

It was a great tournament, with lots of talented people, and many surprises.

I enjoyed watching it a lot.

It depends from which side are you looking at the World Cup 2022. If you watched it on a TV from your home, everything was great and most of the games were interesting. However I'm sure that fans that were stopped in the airport because they didn't get their visa on time. There was a situation where two guys payed almost $3000 for a game and airplane ticket to go to one game. One guy got his visa and the other guy didn't get it in time. The guy without a visa got stopped from entering a plane in Frankfurt, Germany and his friend didn't want to go alone. In the end not only have they lost $3000, they had to buy another plane ticket to get home from Frankfurt.

And then there were those discriminate situations where something that is normal in "our" world was forbidden in Qatar, but I won't go into that.

Well, from the point of view that people experienced different types of situations, it is something that did happen, but I also think that people who enter a country they don't know should at least read its rules, the things they like or the things they they should and should not be done, so we know that this country of Qatar is a country with very strict rules, and that one as a visitor must abide by the rules, so every person who wanted to do what they wanted cannot because they simply cannot Getting to do whatever is like going to a neighbor's house to give orders, when you already know that in that home there are rules and regulations to follow.

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Hosting the world for any country can be helpful for that country. Especially, in some cases, when it helps the country financially, hosting the world cup can definitely bring many people to that country and this will bring demand for the business in that country like hotels and restaurants, and other active businesses, but after hosting a world cup in middle est now it's for America to host the games which changes it geographically a lot, In last world cup hosting world cup didn't help Qatar to sue the chance for this time I think countries like Mexico will have more chance to perform better because of their hosting.

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Quote from: Synchronice on January 20, 2023, 01:44:20 AM

I'm still wondering how will they deal with the visas, especially when they are hosting it in three countries. The United States of America and Canada have very strict visa policies, especially the USA.
Imagine, when you apply for Canadian Visa to visit the match and then your favorite team is on the edge where it's doubtful whether it wins the next match or not but imagine it wins and then you have to apply for American Visa and so on. I remember Trump said that visas would still remain for the USA but they would proceed it quickly for applicants but I don't think it will be that easy.

Visa-free entries in Canada and the USA will cause a massive wave of emigrants and it will be a chaos. Maybe they'll create Schengen-like system for a while but a lot of people from non-EAA countries will miss the opportunity to watch the match from stadium.

Thus 3 countries planning will be fun for many people but definitely this is going to create alot of issues for visa policy as USA and Canada will never change their policies which are strict .
I think they are going to add come clause in visa for fifa as fans from all over the world will come to eatch their favourite teams and as a host country its their duty to cater all the fans and provide them with all the facilities and comfort . And that will help them to move in 3 countries easily with their teams.

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I'm still wondering how will they deal with the visas, especially when they are hosting it in three countries. The United States of America and Canada have very strict visa policies, especially the USA.
Imagine, when you apply for Canadian Visa to visit the match and then your favorite team is on the edge where it's doubtful whether it wins the next match or not but imagine it wins and then you have to apply for American Visa and so on. I remember Trump said that visas would still remain for the USA but they would proceed it quickly for applicants but I don't think it will be that easy.

Visa-free entries in Canada and the USA will cause a massive wave of emigrants and it will be a chaos. Maybe they'll create Schengen-like system for a while but a lot of people from non-EAA countries will miss the opportunity to watch the match from stadium.

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Quote from: Strongkored on January 19, 2023, 11:43:53 PM

It's just strange that FIFA has decided to add World Cup participants but hasn't yet decided on the format of the competition.
Even so, I agree that this addition is good to provide adequate references for all the confederation and will make the competition more competitive and for football lovers this will provide more spectacles because of the increase in the number of participants.

Still almost 3 years remains for the competition and it is not surprising that the FIFA is yet to revise and finalize the format. Actually they had fixed the format, based on a 3 team per group setup, but after watching the games in Qatar 2022, they decided to go back to the previous format. And this is why the delay is there. But then for us it should not be a concern. We will get to watch the matches, irrespective of the format. And a lot of people are excited about the 2026 edition, because there will be a lot many new teams.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 19, 2023, 10:29:12 PM

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Mexico in general is quite alright to visit, at least much safer than Baltimore and Chicago in the US.

It will probably be an interesting world cup, because the games will be so far apart, and also the need to secure three different visas, for Mexico, US, and Canada.

Maybe some players will not be able to get some of those 3 visas.

There will be more than 100 matches in total for FIFA 2026, and millions of fans will be attending the event. I am not sure how many matches Mexico will be hosting, but it will be an uphill task for the security forces to provide security for this huge number of people. Three of the Mexican cities will be hosting world cup matches - Guadalajara, Mexico City and Monterrey. Out of these three, I am more worried about the last one, as it is close to the US border and home to some of the most feared Mexican drug cartels (Los Zetas, Gulf Cartel, Beltrán-Leyva Organization.etc).

Mexico is North America and they have the ability to host FIFA. They can host fifa without any problem if they try If Qatar can host FIFA in the desert, why can't Mexico? Yes it is a tough job to protect millions of viewers and players. Law enforcement requires separate training. But it's not just a difficult task for Mexico It is a difficult task for the whole world. I don't think Mexico is ineligible for that

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 19, 2023, 12:45:48 AM

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The addition of the number of countries by 50% from before made FIFA have to make a lot of adjustments and there are several options that FIFA is currently considering, one of which is by dividing into 16 groups and each group consisting of 3 countries, but there is no certainty regarding all options, all are still under consideration but for sure the group phase will be the busiest times for the hosts

We already had a lengthy debate on this topic. Previously FIFA was planning to have 16 groups with 3 teams each, but now they are planning to have 12 groups with 4 teams each. But one negative from this is that the qualification gets complicated. For the round of 32, 24 of the teams will be 1st and 2nd placed teams from each group. But the selection criteria for the next 8 teams (out of the 12 third placed teams) is a bit tricky. Anyway, this expansion is a positive step from FIFA to give adequate representation to all the confederations.

It's just strange that FIFA has decided to add World Cup participants but hasn't yet decided on the format of the competition.
Even so, I agree that this addition is good to provide adequate references for all the confederation and will make the competition more competitive and for football lovers this will provide more spectacles because of the increase in the number of participants.

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Quote from: nullama on January 19, 2023, 07:00:54 PM

Mexico in general is quite alright to visit, at least much safer than Baltimore and Chicago in the US.

It will probably be an interesting world cup, because the games will be so far apart, and also the need to secure three different visas, for Mexico, US, and Canada.

Maybe some players will not be able to get some of those 3 visas.

There will be more than 100 matches in total for FIFA 2026, and millions of fans will be attending the event. I am not sure how many matches Mexico will be hosting, but it will be an uphill task for the security forces to provide security for this huge number of people. Three of the Mexican cities will be hosting world cup matches - Guadalajara, Mexico City and Monterrey. Out of these three, I am more worried about the last one, as it is close to the US border and home to some of the most feared Mexican drug cartels (Los Zetas, Gulf Cartel, Beltrán-Leyva Organization.etc).

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