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The conflict between Palestine and Israel has been going on for a long time, and even every year it will definitely become an issue that concerns evryone. With regards to the WC, I think it will continue and will not affect the WorldCup. There will definitely be geopolitical influences, but I agree with you that those who help will help by not directly intervening. If they were directly involved it would have happened a long time ago, because we know this conflict is not something we've just heard about.

The United States is not going to get directly involved in this conflict and neither do Mexico or Canada has any interest in it. And also, Palestine and Israel almost never qualifies for the world cup (and that is not the case with Russia and Ukraine). The real threat to this event is the war-like scenario that is prevailing at the US-Mexico border. Millions of illegal immigrants (mostly from Latin America) are likely to invade the United States this year, and the situation may continue like this unless Biden is removed from power. 
Although there are many "conspiracy" theories behind the conflict between Palestine and Israel involving the hosting of the 2026 World Cup, I don't think it will be something that will have a major effect on the organization of the World Cup.
As for "illegal immigrants", I think they will be strict about it, although overall I don't know what the situation is. They are a strong country, so they must have anticipated something like this. If Biden is ousted, do you believe it will change the situation with their new President? I don't think it will be that easy, because in politics there are many people who have interests there.
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The United States is not going to get directly involved in this conflict and neither do Mexico or Canada has any interest in it. And also, Palestine and Israel almost never qualifies for the world cup (and that is not the case with Russia and Ukraine). The real threat to this event is the war-like scenario that is prevailing at the US-Mexico border. Millions of illegal immigrants (mostly from Latin America) are likely to invade the United States this year, and the situation may continue like this unless Biden is removed from power. 

I'm not so sure about that. There are some clear alignments there from the US perspective.
Regarding the problems currently occurring in the US, it actually has nothing to do with the 2026 World Cup which will take place there because in no less than year the US will hold presidential election and if Biden doesn't win then the conflict that be resolved.
Moreover, every state leader must be able to resolve problems and conflicts in his country to be able to maintain state sovereignty and security.

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In any case, Palestine is ranked 96th, and Israel is 71st, so they are probably not going to qualify anyway as you mentioned.
I agree with this that Palestine and Israel very rarely, in fact almost never qualify for the World Cup.
So there will never be war conflicts between countries that could affect the progress of the World Cup.
After all, this is football sporting event and cannot be linked to the political turmoil or conflicts over territory that are currently occurring.
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The USA is the actual host of the 2026 World Cup and most of the games will be in this country because of the potential and more sports facilities and hotels they have there, obviously, they can host the World Cup perfectly.
But the other two countries, Canada and Mexico will also help America, and in other words, they are co-hosting this tournament in 2026.
I think even America could host it alone without any help from these two countries.

With the expansion of world cup, it is getting difficult for any single country to host the event exclusively. Qatar 2022 had 32 participants and a total of 64 matches. North America 2026 will be having 48 participants and a total of 104 matches. In case of the United States, it may still be possible to host all these matches. Even then, they are converting NFL facilities to soccer to do that. The 2034 edition is going to be interesting. Saudi Arabia is the exclusive host, and all the 104 matches are going to be played in that country.

Once they chose America for hosting the 2026 World Cup many people were worried about taking a visa for America because they knew visiting this country was not easy like other countries but the positive point of choosing America for hosting the World Cup is about more potential they have in their countries and America won't need to build many stadiums like Qatar did years ago also America got the experience of hosting the world cup.
Football World Cup in America will be a very grand event but for the audience there will be problem to watch the game in America. Every country will have a lot of hassle to get US visa because US visa is not so easy to get. Maybe the 2026 World Cup will be watched only by Americans and those who are already in America, and a very small number of people will get a visa to visit America just to watch the game. If the visa policy was eased only for the World Cup, then maybe ordinary football lovers would not have to face so much hassle to get a visa. Since the American Embassy has nothing to do with the Football World Cup, it is assumed that the visa policy will not be so easy at all. If football fans can't get an American visa after trying, they will be forced to support their country from afar.
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I'm not so sure about that. There are some clear alignments there from the US perspective.

In any case, Palestine is ranked 96th, and Israel is 71st, so they are probably not going to qualify anyway as you mentioned.

Israel plays within the UEFA qualifiers and Palestine is affiliated to the Asian Football Confederation (AFC). So it is easier for Palestine to qualify for the 2026 tournament than Israel, given the tough competition in UEFA. All that said, it is almost impossible for either teams to qualify at this point, given the current form. But that is not the case with Russia and Ukraine. Russia would have qualified for Qatar 2022, if not for the ban from FIFA. Ukraine was really close, but in the end they lose the playoff match against Wales and therefore failed to qualify.
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The United States is not going to get directly involved in this conflict and neither do Mexico or Canada has any interest in it. And also, Palestine and Israel almost never qualifies for the world cup (and that is not the case with Russia and Ukraine). The real threat to this event is the war-like scenario that is prevailing at the US-Mexico border. Millions of illegal immigrants (mostly from Latin America) are likely to invade the United States this year, and the situation may continue like this unless Biden is removed from power. 

I'm not so sure about that. There are some clear alignments there from the US perspective.

In any case, Palestine is ranked 96th, and Israel is 71st, so they are probably not going to qualify anyway as you mentioned.
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The conflict between Palestine and Israel has been going on for a long time, and even every year it will definitely become an issue that concerns evryone. With regards to the WC, I think it will continue and will not affect the WorldCup. There will definitely be geopolitical influences, but I agree with you that those who help will help by not directly intervening. If they were directly involved it would have happened a long time ago, because we know this conflict is not something we've just heard about.

The United States is not going to get directly involved in this conflict and neither do Mexico or Canada has any interest in it. And also, Palestine and Israel almost never qualifies for the world cup (and that is not the case with Russia and Ukraine). The real threat to this event is the war-like scenario that is prevailing at the US-Mexico border. Millions of illegal immigrants (mostly from Latin America) are likely to invade the United States this year, and the situation may continue like this unless Biden is removed from power. 
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But I think the current war will have an impact on the 2026 World Cup. Even though the Middle East conflict is between Palestine and Israel, this war also brings the names of allied countries such as the United States. I think this war will have a lot of influence geopolitically. It is possible that the 2026 World Cup will be postponed if this war spreads and becomes a global crisis.

LOL.. World Cup getting postponed as a result of war? That is not even remotely possible. First of all, the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine has been limited to these two countries. Western nations haven't stepped in directly, although they are sending weapons, equipment and mercenaries to support Russia. Similarly, Russia's allies (Iran, DPRK and China) have also refrained from intervening in a direct manner. The same is applicable for Hamas vs Israel war. No one wants to get directly involved. Even pro-Hamas nations such as Qatar and Turkey have shown remarkable restraint.
The conflict between Palestine and Israel has been going on for a long time, and even every year it will definitely become an issue that concerns evryone. With regards to the WC, I think it will continue and will not affect the WorldCup. There will definitely be geopolitical influences, but I agree with you that those who help will help by not directly intervening. If they were directly involved it would have happened a long time ago, because we know this conflict is not something we've just heard about.
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The USA is the actual host of the 2026 World Cup and most of the games will be in this country because of the potential and more sports facilities and hotels they have there, obviously, they can host the World Cup perfectly.
But the other two countries, Canada and Mexico will also help America, and in other words, they are co-hosting this tournament in 2026.
I think even America could host it alone without any help from these two countries.

With the expansion of world cup, it is getting difficult for any single country to host the event exclusively. Qatar 2022 had 32 participants and a total of 64 matches. North America 2026 will be having 48 participants and a total of 104 matches. In case of the United States, it may still be possible to host all these matches. Even then, they are converting NFL facilities to soccer to do that. The 2034 edition is going to be interesting. Saudi Arabia is the exclusive host, and all the 104 matches are going to be played in that country.

Once they chose America for hosting the 2026 World Cup many people were worried about taking a visa for America because they knew visiting this country was not easy like other countries but the positive point of choosing America for hosting the World Cup is about more potential they have in their countries and America won't need to build many stadiums like Qatar did years ago also America got the experience of hosting the world cup.
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The USA is the actual host of the 2026 World Cup and most of the games will be in this country because of the potential and more sports facilities and hotels they have there, obviously, they can host the World Cup perfectly.
But the other two countries, Canada and Mexico will also help America, and in other words, they are co-hosting this tournament in 2026.
I think even America could host it alone without any help from these two countries.

Yeah, I think adding more countries just makes the whole thing more complicated, specially visa-wise.

For example, there might even be some Americans that can't go to Canada because they had a DUI:

Canada may or may not allow persons with DUI convictions to enter their country.
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The USA is the actual host of the 2026 World Cup and most of the games will be in this country because of the potential and more sports facilities and hotels they have there, obviously, they can host the World Cup perfectly.
But the other two countries, Canada and Mexico will also help America, and in other words, they are co-hosting this tournament in 2026.
I think even America could host it alone without any help from these two countries.

With the expansion of world cup, it is getting difficult for any single country to host the event exclusively. Qatar 2022 had 32 participants and a total of 64 matches. North America 2026 will be having 48 participants and a total of 104 matches. In case of the United States, it may still be possible to host all these matches. Even then, they are converting NFL facilities to soccer to do that. The 2034 edition is going to be interesting. Saudi Arabia is the exclusive host, and all the 104 matches are going to be played in that country.
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True, the visa process for the US can get tricky for people from many countries in the world.

Having said that, the world cup is also going to be played in Mexico and Canada, at least some games, so maybe those people who got rejected from the US could try their luck there.

I don't know how this will work. United States is the main host, while Mexico and Canada are like nominal hosts. They will host just 10 matches each, out of a total of 104. If you just want to get a taste of the world cup in 2026, then you can attend one of these matches. But if you want to attend all the matches of your home country, then you need a US visa. All that said, there is still some hope that the Americans will relax their visa criteria during the duration of the world cup. If implemented, that should put an end to this debate.
USA will definitely the be main one, and people will want to watch the games there, Canada and Mexico is not there for anything but just show and USA couldn't be hosts all by themselves which is why they are the ones that will be joining to USA, that's how USA got the result.

Saudi Arabia is a weird one, they got 2034 and there were NO other nations that wanted to join, like they were the only ones and that's how they got it, that doesn't really make sense to me. World Cup suppose to be something huge and the host nation would get a lot of money, it's a lot of prestige and billions of dollars going their way, and everyone should want to host it. Why they were the only one and nobody else wanted is confusing to me for sure.

The USA is the actual host of the 2026 World Cup and most of the games will be in this country because of the potential and more sports facilities and hotels they have there, obviously, they can host the World Cup perfectly.
But the other two countries, Canada and Mexico will also help America, and in other words, they are co-hosting this tournament in 2026.
I think even America could host it alone without any help from these two countries.
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America is a country where you can expect to see freedom there and that's the reason for many people they prefer to visit this country.
However, the problem with America is that's a bit hard for people to take a visa for this country and people from some countries like North Korea and Iran and some other similar countries.

Yeah the freedom with which America is known for can't be overly emphasised as their is always advocacy for one form of freedom or the other. Most freedom advocacy have origins or were copies from the Americans and they are always known for a free life I'm their country.

And this will be one of the reasons they wouldn't down play the opportunity for others to come witness the world cup on religious or other grounds, except for security I don't think other grounds would be reason enough to restrict people from other countries, and for countries with difficulty in getting the American visa most likely there will be some kind of ease for the period of the world cup more like an temporary ease strictly for the purpose of the world cup after which it would be reviewed.
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True, the visa process for the US can get tricky for people from many countries in the world.

Having said that, the world cup is also going to be played in Mexico and Canada, at least some games, so maybe those people who got rejected from the US could try their luck there.

I don't know how this will work. United States is the main host, while Mexico and Canada are like nominal hosts. They will host just 10 matches each, out of a total of 104. If you just want to get a taste of the world cup in 2026, then you can attend one of these matches. But if you want to attend all the matches of your home country, then you need a US visa. All that said, there is still some hope that the Americans will relax their visa criteria during the duration of the world cup. If implemented, that should put an end to this debate.
USA will definitely the be main one, and people will want to watch the games there, Canada and Mexico is not there for anything but just show and USA couldn't be hosts all by themselves which is why they are the ones that will be joining to USA, that's how USA got the result.

Saudi Arabia is a weird one, they got 2034 and there were NO other nations that wanted to join, like they were the only ones and that's how they got it, that doesn't really make sense to me. World Cup suppose to be something huge and the host nation would get a lot of money, it's a lot of prestige and billions of dollars going their way, and everyone should want to host it. Why they were the only one and nobody else wanted is confusing to me for sure.
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True, the visa process for the US can get tricky for people from many countries in the world.

Having said that, the world cup is also going to be played in Mexico and Canada, at least some games, so maybe those people who got rejected from the US could try their luck there.

I don't know how this will work. United States is the main host, while Mexico and Canada are like nominal hosts. They will host just 10 matches each, out of a total of 104. If you just want to get a taste of the world cup in 2026, then you can attend one of these matches. But if you want to attend all the matches of your home country, then you need a US visa. All that said, there is still some hope that the Americans will relax their visa criteria during the duration of the world cup. If implemented, that should put an end to this debate.
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If the visa issue was just for people from North Korea and Iran, then it would have been OK. Anyway, I don't think that a lot of football fans from these countries attend the world cup in person. But here the issue is that getting a US tourist visa is a cumbersome process for people from any of the third world nations. So if someone from India or Nigeria want to watch the world cup in the United States, they need to go through all the red tape and multiple visa hearings and still there is no guarantee that they will be able to travel to the US.

True, the visa process for the US can get tricky for people from many countries in the world.

Having said that, the world cup is also going to be played in Mexico and Canada, at least some games, so maybe those people who got rejected from the US could try their luck there.
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America is a country where you can expect to see freedom there and that's the reason for many people they prefer to visit this country.
However, the problem with America is that's a bit hard for people to take a visa for this country and people from some countries like North Korea and Iran and some other similar countries.

If the visa issue was just for people from North Korea and Iran, then it would have been OK. Anyway, I don't think that a lot of football fans from these countries attend the world cup in person. But here the issue is that getting a US tourist visa is a cumbersome process for people from any of the third world nations. So if someone from India or Nigeria want to watch the world cup in the United States, they need to go through all the red tape and multiple visa hearings and still there is no guarantee that they will be able to travel to the US.
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About Qatar, it was not about entering the country but it was about making rules to let people drink easily or don't take everything hard about the nudity in this country.
But The case about America is different than this and they need to make some rules to let people enter this country more easily, I think in Qatar it was hard to stand against religious people but in America that's pretty much easy for them to make special rules. 
America is a Libra country with various religious diversity so they are definitely not going to be sentimental on such grounds except it poses security threat then it will be reconsidered, because outside security grounds, those with same religious beliefs may frown at it.

But then policy making isn't an easy one anywhere the advantage here is that they have got some more time before the world cup. By then the isreliee war must have ended or at cease fire so I think there will be talks by then amongst the parties and reconciliations could be made and the religious limitations could ha e a way of working around them, the US is considered the world power so I don't think the security there could be easily compromised so definitely even security threats could still be kept under check.


America is a country where you can expect to see freedom there and that's the reason for many people they prefer to visit this country.
However, the problem with America is that's a bit hard for people to take a visa for this country and people from some countries like North Korea and Iran and some other similar countries.
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I think this is more crucial than Qatar, because in Qatar access to it is still fairly easy, and what is happening in the US right now is that it is difficult to get access to it. The arrival of the audience to go there is something that must be considered, because this is the initial access.
Surely they as organizers do not want to make an impression that will be remembered as the worst World Cup due to the difficulty of access there. FIFA must also take part in this problem. Because the World Cup is still far away and now we are already talking about the big possibilities that will occur because of the current situation.

About Qatar, it was not about entering the country but it was about making rules to let people drink easily or don't take everything hard about the nudity in this country.
But The case about America is different than this and they need to make some rules to let people enter this country more easily, I think in Qatar it was hard to stand against religious people but in America that's pretty much easy for them to make special rules. 
Yes maybe it's a different issue, but I think how can the audience go there if they can't get access to it? whereas in Qatar we know that they do have their own policies about consuming alcohol. But their policy is still relaxed, yes although not everyone is happy about it. I don't mean to compare the US and Qatar, because for every country that is appointed as a host there is a downside, we can't expect everything to run smoothly.
The problem is that people will think twice when the process to go there becomes difficult.



There is no doubt in my mind and in the mind of most people that next World Cups will be likely more liberal and open the the behavior of those who decide to attend and have fun.
It is rather a cultural and political debate than something about the sport itself, I think. When we go to a muslin country, which follows the Sharia law, we are expected to respect and follow their rules, otherwise we can get severely punished. On the other hand, those who want to live under the sharia law in the west are free to do so, as long as they do not impose their beliefs onto others against their will.
Those are completely different systems.

After what I see in Qatar, I would be quite pessimistic if any other world cup was to be held in a Sharia/muslin country again, no fun allowed?
Now this is something sensitive. Because on the one hand we must respect each other, but on the other hand we must not harm one party. Without us realizing this is something that clashes with each other, which one will we prioritize? One party wants to be respected, but the other party also wants to be respected.
Talking about religion is of course a sensitive subject, as I said in the beginning. It takes a lot of emotion to understand each other, and we can't force everyone to be like that.

Btw, we're back to talking about Qatar for the US World Cup.
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Well, after Australia opted out for the World Cup 2034 bid, Saudi Arabia is the only country in the race at the moment, so they will probably be hosting it.

So, yes, there will most probably be another World Cup host with Sharia Law.
Before Australia withdrawing their participants to be FIFA World Cup 2034 host have rumor with Indonesia country want to be partner for Australia, but they are not agree and latest rumor Indonesian football federation give vote and support for Saudi Arabia becoming the hos of World Cup 2034. Have new rule from FIFA with edition of World Cup 2034 must in Asian opening opportunity for Saudi Arabia to be host, support much money easily to be host of World Cup depend can build good stadium.
Its excited with FIFA World Cup 2034 only have one country as host and difference edition on 2026 have three countries as host of US, Canada and Mexico. FIFA have know supported infrastructure in Saudi Arabia and they have been guarantee with host of World Cup edition on 2034 only have one host country teams.
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FIFA has certainly taken into account all the possibilities and risks before appointing Saudi as the host of the upcoming 2034 World Cup, and it is also possible that this conflict will make FIFA change its decision. However, 2034 is still very long from now, of course we hope that the conflict that is occurring can end soon, so that things will get better. What is clear is that FIFA has the authority to make the World Cup safe from various impacts, both social, economic and others.

On the other hand, Saudi's steps in advancing football are indeed not half-hearted, the SPL is better than previously predicted and the appointment of the World Cup host will improve the image of their football. It looks like there will be even more surprises in the future, one of which may be recruiting more players from Europe top leagues in the transfer market, and PIF is reportedly also interested in acquiring one of the clubs from Ligue 1 namely Marseille.
Of course, all decisions and authority are owned by FIFA in selecting the host of the 2034 World Cup but the Israeli and Palestinian war conflict will not be able to influence Saudi Arabia if it is chosen to host the World Cup.
In addition this war has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia where security and comfort will definitely be achieved there.

Now, Saudi efforts to advance football can be an example that Saudi is also worthy country as venue for the upcoming 2034 World Cup.
Even though it is still quite a long time the development of Saudi football will get better and its feasibility can also be maximized.

The war between Palestine and Israel has been going on for a long time and there are indeed foreign countries that are allies of both parties, but this war will never be able to problem global peace because both of them have the protection of the UN, fact this war has been discussed several times by The UN but Israel continues to launch attack after missile attack which hits every corner of the city in Palestine.

If the conflict between Palestine and Israel had an impact and caused global problems and crises to the point that the World Cup had to be postponed, it would have happened a long time ago and the Qatar 2022 World Cup would also be affected, but what actually happened was that the World Cup could still run smoothly without any conflict whatsoever make it have to be postponed.
I would say it has nothing to do with the current situation and there is nothing to worry about f or the world cup. Surely it's a shame what is going on, and I understand that some people think that it's OK to pick sides, in a war there are no sides, there are innocent people dying, no matter which side, but the war is half way across the nation whereas the world cup will be held at north America. So all in all, the war will not spill towards there, nothing will happen there.

Unless there are some terrorist attacks during world cup, which would not be impossible but would be unlikely, I think we are all fine. We should be seeing the world cup without any trouble at all and there should be a lot of fun. I think it is clear that we are going to be forced to watch the situation a little bit differently and I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be to make sure everyone is having fun without worrying about anything else than football they are watching.
But what I mean is the 2034 World Cup which Saudi is asking to host, not about the 2026 World Cup which will take place in the United States.
The discussion in this post relates to war which might affect Saudi hosting the 2034 World Cup

Yes, the World Cup is world football event which is held every four years so that there is happiness felt by everyone who watches or supports their proud national team.
And once again I say that the Israeli and Palestinian war will never affect the World Cup.
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