FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 8.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on December 02, 2024, 08:55:57 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 02, 2024, 07:23:57 AM

If I'm not wrong, Uzbekistan should fight for the World Cup ticket but Iran is already qualified to the 2026 World Cup with Japan.

No team has already qualified for the world cup.

In group A, Iran now has 6 more points than the third placed team and given that there are 4 more matches remaining for each team, it's still possible that Iran will not finish the group at the top two places.
In group C, Japan now has 10 more points than the third place team. It's very unlikely that Japan will fail to qualify for the world cup, but that's still possible.

So far there are several teams that do have enough positions in the standings, such as Japan which is at the top of the standings, while South Korea and Iran are of course still not safe, because mathematically it is still possible for them to fail to win points in the next match, Japan has a 10-point advantage over their opponents, while Iran and Korea only have a point difference that is relatively still possible to be pursued by other teams in the group phase, Uzbekistan also has a good chance, but they must remain consistent and at least keep their distance from the UAE who are currently ranked third.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 02, 2024, 09:21:45 AM

Quote from: temple on December 01, 2024, 07:54:26 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 01, 2024, 10:40:44 AM

Of course, the host country always benefits, although in the last World Cup reportedly the host suffered a loss, but when they become the host, they will automatically qualify and that is an advantage for them. Many countries are also competing to host the World Cup, that means they have calculated everything, including the benefits they can get when they get the trust to host.
I don't want to focus on that, what I want to see is the increase in the number of participants in the next World Cup will make the competition more interesting and I hope the countries that qualify there can provide many surprises.

Not that I deny that you are right about the general idea that many countries are competing to become the host of a World Cup, but do you really think that countries are competing? Cheesy

I think it is all about politics and bribery. It has been like that forever when it comes to the FIFA giving their vote for a country to host the World Cup. Or rather the representatives of the FIFA for the various nations.

I don't really want to say things like that, but when you start, then I think I'll also give a little opinion about this. I also actually heard a lot about some bad news attacking FIFA, one of which was about the appointment of the host for the World Cup which was felt quite strongly that there was indeed bribery so that FIFA would appoint the country as the host. Even in the last World Cup, there was also a lot of news about it and one of the big news was that one of the FIFA officials was caught in a case. Even when we search on the search page, there are so many cases related to FIFA.

In this regard, the FIFA president plays an important role. America tried hard to host the 2022 World Cup in their country but Qatar gave such a huge amount of money to FIFA that FIFA turned down America's offer and allowed Qatar to host the World Cup. Before the end of the World Cup in Qatar, it was announced which countries would host the next two World Cups, with the 2026 World Cup being hosted by Mexico, America and Canada, while the 2030 World Cup is slated to be hosted by Saudi Arabia.
In other words, the 2030 World Cup will again be hosted in a Middle Eastern country. Saudi Arabia is gearing up well in advance to give football lovers a great World Cup.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on December 02, 2024, 08:55:57 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 02, 2024, 07:23:57 AM

If I'm not wrong, Uzbekistan should fight for the World Cup ticket but Iran is already qualified to the 2026 World Cup with Japan.

No team has already qualified for the world cup.

In group A, Iran now has 6 more points than the third placed team and given that there are 4 more matches remaining for each team, it's still possible that Iran will not finish the group at the top two places.
In group C, Japan now has 10 more points than the third place team. It's very unlikely that Japan will fail to qualify for the world cup, but that's still possible.

We will see the qualifying teams in March 2025. But of course, we will already see which teams are the potential candidates for the world cup. This early, we are already seeing which teams can make it in the list.

But just look at how these confederations are selecting the qualifying teams. There are so many teams on each confederation, hence, it is understandable that getting to the final list would be years in the making. Just reaching the final list would be a big achievement already for any team.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on December 02, 2024, 12:11:09 AM

Quote from: Juse14 on December 01, 2024, 11:11:02 PM

And if you think that no Asian team is able to provide a surprise in the World Cup, maybe you forgot that Japan is a team that was able to beat Germany and Spain in the group phase, making it difficult for both teams to reach the last 16 in the 2022 World Cup.

I can say Japan is the best team in Asia and they always give surprises in the world cup. There is no other team on their level in Asia. Another Asian team that gave a surprise was Saudi Arabia when they beat Argentina in the first match of the 2022 world cup. But Japan is still the best because they always have a chance to beat top teams like Germany and Spain. South Korea is also the best team in Asia. But I did not include their record of making it to the semifinals of the 2002 world cup because many said they robbed Italy of victory in the round of 16-CMIIW

South Korea and Japan are the most consistent teams in Asia, their performance in every World Cup can be said to be quite consistent, and until now South Korea and Japan have always been in first place in their respective qualifying standings. Unlike Saudi Arabia, although they once surprised the world by defeating Argentina, their performance has actually decreased drastically, as well as Australia who has participated in the World Cup several times, even the two national teams, Saudi Arabia and Australia have to fight tooth and nail to be able to be in the runner-up position.

Quote from: Docnaster on December 02, 2024, 05:56:50 AM

Japan have in few occasions proven that there's an Asian team that's capable of conquering the world of football but just that they were unfortunate not to have made it to the final of the FIFA World Cup. Personally, I feel Japan is one of the best footballing nations of the world but the fact that no Asian nation have won the World Cup trophy before is the reason they're underrated.
South Korea have also recorded good performances in the World Cup before but an Asian nation would have to win tournament before they can be pitched against European and South American counterparts

Yes, maybe that's one of the many reasons why Asian countries are often underestimated when appearing in the World Cup. And maybe, let alone winning the world title, they have never even reached the final round. However, even so, it is important to remember that when on the field, anything can happen and surprises can be created.

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Quote from: temple on December 01, 2024, 07:54:26 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 01, 2024, 10:40:44 AM

Of course, the host country always benefits, although in the last World Cup reportedly the host suffered a loss, but when they become the host, they will automatically qualify and that is an advantage for them. Many countries are also competing to host the World Cup, that means they have calculated everything, including the benefits they can get when they get the trust to host.
I don't want to focus on that, what I want to see is the increase in the number of participants in the next World Cup will make the competition more interesting and I hope the countries that qualify there can provide many surprises.

Not that I deny that you are right about the general idea that many countries are competing to become the host of a World Cup, but do you really think that countries are competing? Cheesy

I think it is all about politics and bribery. It has been like that forever when it comes to the FIFA giving their vote for a country to host the World Cup. Or rather the representatives of the FIFA for the various nations.

I don't really want to say things like that, but when you start, then I think I'll also give a little opinion about this. I also actually heard a lot about some bad news attacking FIFA, one of which was about the appointment of the host for the World Cup which was felt quite strongly that there was indeed bribery so that FIFA would appoint the country as the host. Even in the last World Cup, there was also a lot of news about it and one of the big news was that one of the FIFA officials was caught in a case. Even when we search on the search page, there are so many cases related to FIFA.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 02, 2024, 07:23:57 AM

If I'm not wrong, Uzbekistan should fight for the World Cup ticket but Iran is already qualified to the 2026 World Cup with Japan.

No team has already qualified for the world cup.

In group A, Iran now has 6 more points than the third placed team and given that there are 4 more matches remaining for each team, it's still possible that Iran will not finish the group at the top two places.
In group C, Japan now has 10 more points than the third place team. It's very unlikely that Japan will fail to qualify for the world cup, but that's still possible.

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Quote from: bering on November 30, 2024, 03:34:54 AM

Recently i have checked about Group A standing and interested about Qatar because on 2022 they can playing at the world cup for the first time because at that time Qatar as a host of this tournament but for qualification stages recently Qatar has been displayed poor performance because they only able to occupy 4th place with only collect 7 points from 6 matches and 3 times lost even Qatar defensive lines is very weak because they are as the team with the most conceded in Group A and with 6 difference points with Uzbekistan i highly doubt Qatar can qualified to world cup or finish at top 2 so i think Qatar highest achievement is only top 4 or qualified to round 4

If I'm not wrong, Uzbekistan should fight for the World Cup ticket but Iran is already qualified to the 2026 World Cup with Japan. However, the performance I saw from Iran so far was not good enough and I think if they get the ticket for the World Cup, still they won't have any chance against the top teams in this tournament and still getting can be their final destination. There is an even worse situation with Uzbekistan and they really had poor performance regardless of the results they got so far.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on December 02, 2024, 12:11:09 AM

Quote from: Juse14 on December 01, 2024, 11:11:02 PM

And if you think that no Asian team is able to provide a surprise in the World Cup, maybe you forgot that Japan is a team that was able to beat Germany and Spain in the group phase, making it difficult for both teams to reach the last 16 in the 2022 World Cup.

I can say Japan is the best team in Asia and they always give surprises in the world cup. There is no other team on their level in Asia. Another Asian team that gave a surprise was Saudi Arabia when they beat Argentina in the first match of the 2022 world cup. But Japan is still the best because they always have a chance to beat top teams like Germany and Spain. South Korea is also the best team in Asia. But I did not include their record of making it to the semifinals of the 2002 world cup because many said they robbed Italy of victory in the round of 16-CMIIW

Japan have in few occasions proven that there's an Asian team that's capable of conquering the world of football but just that they were unfortunate not to have made it to the final of the FIFA World Cup. Personally, I feel Japan is one of the best footballing nations of the world but the fact that no Asian nation have won the World Cup trophy before is the reason they're underrated.
South Korea have also recorded good performances in the World Cup before but an Asian nation would have to win tournament before they can be pitched against European and South American counterparts

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 01, 2024, 10:40:44 AM

Of course, the host country always benefits, although in the last World Cup reportedly the host suffered a loss, but when they become the host, they will automatically qualify and that is an advantage for them. Many countries are also competing to host the World Cup, that means they have calculated everything, including the benefits they can get when they get the trust to host.
I don't want to focus on that, what I want to see is the increase in the number of participants in the next World Cup will make the competition more interesting and I hope the countries that qualify there can provide many surprises.

The host always gets that qualification benefits but it doesn't guarantee they are going to perform well in the game and if they do, they get to get their scores accorded them accordingly without preference but asides the qualifications benefit, there are other economic benefits that the country gets hosting the world cup and even the fact that they get some level of international exposure for their players who weren't know much before the world cup and some Many other benefits to both the team and the country at large.

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Quote from: bitgolden on November 27, 2024, 04:25:30 PM

It doesn't really matter when you lose, if you lose at qualifiers and then not go to world cup, that's bad and sad of course, but if you go to group stages and lose all three games (I think that's changing, but basically doing zero points is what I mean) then you are not going to get anything out of this neither, so why matters if you "go to world cup" if all you do is lose all the games?

I rather not go there at all if that's going to be the result, I rather win some games, if possible get out of the group stages, or get at least 2 or 3 points at group stages. With more and more teams joining, I bet you that there will be more teams with zero points now, and that makes no sense to me, those teams obviously don't deserve to be there.

Everyone doesn't know what will happen when they qualify for the World Cup, so I think it's too early to talk about that, because the target for all countries now is to qualify first and secure a place in the World Cup. Regarding the next target, that will be a different discussion. Because it's impossible for them to do nothing and of course everyone will do their best. Some countries even try hard to qualify and maybe they don't calculate what they can do, maybe they will be at the bottom of the standings. Their main target is just to qualify, because being in the World Cup is already an achievement in itself, especially if they never qualify at all.

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Quote from: Juse14 on December 01, 2024, 11:11:02 PM

And if you think that no Asian team is able to provide a surprise in the World Cup, maybe you forgot that Japan is a team that was able to beat Germany and Spain in the group phase, making it difficult for both teams to reach the last 16 in the 2022 World Cup.

I can say Japan is the best team in Asia and they always give surprises in the world cup. There is no other team on their level in Asia. Another Asian team that gave a surprise was Saudi Arabia when they beat Argentina in the first match of the 2022 world cup. But Japan is still the best because they always have a chance to beat top teams like Germany and Spain. South Korea is also the best team in Asia. But I did not include their record of making it to the semifinals of the 2002 world cup because many said they robbed Italy of victory in the round of 16-CMIIW

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I don't think it will be much different from the new format that we now see in the Champions League and Europa League. Basically everything is the same, but now there are more countries participating than usual. I don't know if this will be an advantage or a disadvantage, because the chances of countries that are difficult to get through to the World Cup are now greater and that could be something that makes the competition less competitive because there are countries that are entering the World Cup for the first time, for example, and other things.

The ones who will benefit are the countries as organizers, because with more participants, more tourists will visit them to join in the excitement of the World Cup.
While for the teams from the competing countries, of course, the additional quota given will help the competing teams quite a bit. I remain convinced that only the strong teams from each federation will qualify. Regardless of whether they can compete with the teams from the favored countries, we will see their preparations.

Of course, the host country always benefits, although in the last World Cup reportedly the host suffered a loss, but when they become the host, they will automatically qualify and that is an advantage for them. Many countries are also competing to host the World Cup, that means they have calculated everything, including the benefits they can get when they get the trust to host.
I don't want to focus on that, what I want to see is the increase in the number of participants in the next World Cup will make the competition more interesting and I hope the countries that qualify there can provide many surprises.

The World Cup is held every four years and most of the countries in the world try to be the host country of this World Cup until the tournament, but the country which FIFA thinks is the best country to host the World Cup is allowed to host the World Cup. Basically Qatar hosting the 2022 World Cup came into much discussion worldwide because Qatar had invested a lot of money in the last World Cup to host this football World Cup. But they had another plan through this world cup, firstly they wanted to present their country well in the world court through the world cup and also they have created high quality tourist spots and modern cities so that foreign tourists come to visit their country later. While they have cited the entire cost of hosting the World Cup as a ploy to become the center of attraction in their world court. However, it goes without saying that Qatar has given a great World Cup.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 01, 2024, 08:21:26 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 28, 2024, 05:29:47 PM

Quote from: Hirose UK on November 28, 2024, 12:41:56 AM

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One good thing about Japan is they care about the younger player and they try to use the younger talents they have to develop their team. Japan is a team in Asia and there you cannot find many strong teams. Usually, the team in Asia fails to even have good performance in the World Cup and that's why we cannot expect to see good performance from these Asian teams in the 2026 World Cup too.
But it seems Japan is trying to act better than this and after a few years when their younger players get more experienced, we can hope to see Japan perform well in the World Cups.

But Japan also has some senior players who are still playing and are part of the main squad, that is one way for Japan to be able to provide the mentality of it young players, they will join and understand each other on the field and of course Japan will not rely on all young players and almost most of the team also have talented young players but none can really develop players like Japan.
There are no surprises in the World Cup for teams from Asia, but at least Asia is able to enliven the World Cup to be more interesting with quite good competition at the beginning of the competition, one thing that makes Asia lag behind is the quality and experience of the players is very different from several team from Europe or Conmebol.

Japan still relies on a mix of experienced senior players and young talents, they do this to maintain their consistency in the international arena. Several senior players such as Kaoru Mitoma, Ritsu Doan, Takefusa Kubo, and captain Maya Yoshida, are still the main part of the Japanese national team. Not to mention the addition of other talented young players such as Wataru Endo, Daichi Kamada, Henry Kaiki Mochizuki and several other players, they are new players who will continue to make Japan's name famous in the international arena. And for most of the players who entered the Japanese national team, they are players who have careers in the top European leagues. and this is what makes Japan the strongest team in Asia.

And if you think that no Asian team is able to provide a surprise in the World Cup, maybe you forgot that Japan is a team that was able to beat Germany and Spain in the group phase, making it difficult for both teams to reach the last 16 in the 2022 World Cup.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 01, 2024, 10:40:44 AM

Of course, the host country always benefits, although in the last World Cup reportedly the host suffered a loss, but when they become the host, they will automatically qualify and that is an advantage for them. Many countries are also competing to host the World Cup, that means they have calculated everything, including the benefits they can get when they get the trust to host.

Organizing the World Cup is a money pit for the host nations just as the Olympics
https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/geral-63882120

South Korea and Japan lost around 5 billion with their World Cup, and it's estimated that Greece lost close to 10 billion when organizing their Olympics, a thing that added to their debt crisis, organizing such a competition nowadays is a loss and that's why so many countries are giving up despite really waiting to host one, it simply becomes unaffordable and so we have more and more cups hosted by one or two or even four nations.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 28, 2024, 05:29:47 PM

Quote from: Hirose UK on November 28, 2024, 12:41:56 AM

~snip~

One good thing about Japan is they care about the younger player and they try to use the younger talents they have to develop their team. Japan is a team in Asia and there you cannot find many strong teams. Usually, the team in Asia fails to even have good performance in the World Cup and that's why we cannot expect to see good performance from these Asian teams in the 2026 World Cup too.
But it seems Japan is trying to act better than this and after a few years when their younger players get more experienced, we can hope to see Japan perform well in the World Cups.

But Japan also has some senior players who are still playing and are part of the main squad, that is one way for Japan to be able to provide the mentality of it young players, they will join and understand each other on the field and of course Japan will not rely on all young players and almost most of the team also have talented young players but none can really develop players like Japan.
There are no surprises in the World Cup for teams from Asia, but at least Asia is able to enliven the World Cup to be more interesting with quite good competition at the beginning of the competition, one thing that makes Asia lag behind is the quality and experience of the players is very different from several team from Europe or Conmebol.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 01, 2024, 10:40:44 AM

Of course, the host country always benefits, although in the last World Cup reportedly the host suffered a loss, but when they become the host, they will automatically qualify and that is an advantage for them. Many countries are also competing to host the World Cup, that means they have calculated everything, including the benefits they can get when they get the trust to host.
I don't want to focus on that, what I want to see is the increase in the number of participants in the next World Cup will make the competition more interesting and I hope the countries that qualify there can provide many surprises.

Not that I deny that you are right about the general idea that many countries are competing to become the host of a World Cup, but do you really think that countries are competing? Cheesy

I think it is all about politics and bribery. It has been like that forever when it comes to the FIFA giving their vote for a country to host the World Cup. Or rather the representatives of the FIFA for the various nations.

But yes the host has some advantage, which is quite natural as they have the whole country backing them and the people are everywhere inside and outside the stadium. But this is only valid for the football team itself, the people in countries that host World Cups are often times not better off financially, but maybe emotionally. Best example here is the last World Cup in Brazil that cost a shit ton of money while so many Brazilians live in poverty.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 29, 2024, 10:50:02 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 29, 2024, 10:36:22 AM

I don't think it will be much different from the new format that we now see in the Champions League and Europa League. Basically everything is the same, but now there are more countries participating than usual. I don't know if this will be an advantage or a disadvantage, because the chances of countries that are difficult to get through to the World Cup are now greater and that could be something that makes the competition less competitive because there are countries that are entering the World Cup for the first time, for example, and other things.

The ones who will benefit are the countries as organizers, because with more participants, more tourists will visit them to join in the excitement of the World Cup.
While for the teams from the competing countries, of course, the additional quota given will help the competing teams quite a bit. I remain convinced that only the strong teams from each federation will qualify. Regardless of whether they can compete with the teams from the favored countries, we will see their preparations.

Of course, the host country always benefits, although in the last World Cup reportedly the host suffered a loss, but when they become the host, they will automatically qualify and that is an advantage for them. Many countries are also competing to host the World Cup, that means they have calculated everything, including the benefits they can get when they get the trust to host.
I don't want to focus on that, what I want to see is the increase in the number of participants in the next World Cup will make the competition more interesting and I hope the countries that qualify there can provide many surprises.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 30, 2024, 01:41:55 AM

Another advantage that Japan has is because many of their players have careers in the world's top leagues and they are part of big teams. It cannot be denied that this is one of the factors why Japan is a country from Asia that can speak a lot in the World Cup. However, I want to talk more about Asian countries today. In my opinion, Asia has now shown a very big improvement and is worthy of being considered in the World Cup. Indeed, I still can't compare it with European countries, because we know that European football is still very strong. But at least now Asia is no longer underestimated.

After Korea Republic Japan is the most consistent country in Asian region because they are well-developed, and their sporting system is also had enough depth to bring their best at the top level in last few world cups we have them regular at the top level and their top players are also making their mark at the top leagues of UEFA which is another good advantage four countries are doing good work, and we can expect them to have keep things on this level but still as Asia is most populated region they needed to work on for game which can bring good results and funds as well Gulf region is surely leading with available sources but sadly their system is not helpful for bringing domestic talent.

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Recently i have checked about Group A standing and interested about Qatar because on 2022 they can playing at the world cup for the first time because at that time Qatar as a host of this tournament but for qualification stages recently Qatar has been displayed poor performance because they only able to occupy 4th place with only collect 7 points from 6 matches and 3 times lost even Qatar defensive lines is very weak because they are as the team with the most conceded in Group A and with 6 difference points with Uzbekistan i highly doubt Qatar can qualified to world cup or finish at top 2 so i think Qatar highest achievement is only top 4 or qualified to round 4

Without any doubt Qatar have not good quality and consistency I am sure we will be not had them in coming world cup because we have few better countries which can go for automatic selection or after having spots into Fourth Stage they needed more work on their domestic level if they want to have better chances.

Asian countries are now working on soccer which is positive change specially we have few countries like Saudi Arab, Indonesia and China which will surely boost quality and consistency in this region but sadly still few countries are not near their best even they can do good like India and Bangladesh with Uzbekistan surely have good chance of qualification for the first time which could be huge success for them.

Without host status and a little helping hand, Qatar would have to surmount a very hard mountain to qualify for the World Cup to be held in 2026. And with many rapidly developing, extremely competitive Asian countries throwing down plenty, Qatar's standing on the Asian scene is increasingly under threat.

Nonetheless, the biggest problem in the AFC often relates to the integrity of the competition. Several reports and allegations prove political influence and controversial decisions over most matters that favor some countries, including those from the Middle East region. The likes of Qatar and Bahrain have over and over appeared on these pages being accused of match-fixing and the qualification process. This surely hurts other countries that have much more potential, but there is less political support for them.

The 2026 World Cup Qualifiers will be a test for the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) to see if they continue to practice fair and proper competition, and if so, then at what point in the future such practices will make it increasingly difficult for the region to gain recognition as one of the truly competitive regions in world football.

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Quote from: doomloop on November 30, 2024, 12:52:32 PM

Now with the increase number of participants in world cup Asian region having 8 spots which are good enough for them because we have still lack of quality and consistency many countries are not capable of staying at the good level which is big problem because they are having no good domestic setup which is important and AFC is also not working for the development of game as we have some conflicts at the top level as well.

But, here I also need to mention few countries are doing good work for the development of game as they are spending huge funds and things are having good changes as well we will be having to have good results in coming years, but AFC needs to be stricter about their policies because this is important for the development of the game.

Yes this is something I haven't been looking into as it seems. They got 4 - 5 spots in 2022 and will now have 8 spots guaranteed in the upcoming 2026 World Cup. That is huge, it is a serious upgrade for the region and is also incentivizes the country to take football more seriously and invest in infrastructure and players because now there is something to play for for them. This could help thrive the sport in that are far more than it already did. I had the feeling it was somehow stalling recently, but now this is the right signal that FIFA sent out. Not to forget that there are so many huge countries, which means they had been underrepresented for a long time.

Africa got +4 on top of the 5 they already had, which makes it 9 now. It is going to be far more even in regards to overall starter distribution.

CONMEBOL is a real outlier as they have only 10 countries playing the qualification and 6 will qualify, which is a 60% participation rate of that association. Next is UEFA with 29%.

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