we are not having big updates in the leaderboard of the FIFA ranking.
Argentina
France
Spain
England
Brazil
Is the current top 5 and I think Brazil is only going to lose more positions.
Prtigual and Italy are the only 2 teams earning positions in the top 10.
Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 12. (Read 62535 times)
October 24, 2024, 03:32:25 PM
October 24, 2024, 03:05:34 PM
In the match against Bolivia, Messi wanted to prove he was still alive and playing for Argentina while people think he is not in the good form anymore. We recently saw the news about Messi and his situation in Inter Miami, he injured and even I saw some rumors about Messi they say Messi won't be able to play in all Inter Miami games because of his age and he needs more rest which means he can't have the chance to even play or Argentina in the 2026 World Cup because he will even get older than this.
Messi scored three goals and made two assists against Bolivia and he was the best player in this match.
No doubt Messi scored three goals in the span of 30 minutes and it was his MLS first hat trick. You can watch the highlights of his hattrick here
Lionel Messi scores hat trick in Inter Miami’s final game of MLS regular season | ESPN FC.
However, i believe it is too early to say how will be perform in the next world cup that is scheduled in 2026. There is still almost 2 year's time left in that event and we never know if at that time he would be in same form and rhythm. He is 37 now and by that time he maybe near 39.
Lionel Messi: I value happiness over reaching 2026 World Cup
I feel you think that's good for Argentina to have Messi in this tan dn they are still dependent on this player but that's really wrong Messi is an old player. Once he was younger he was one of the best talented for Barcelona and Argentina but time after time he got older and now even he can't play in all the games completely for Inter Miami because there is a much higher chance for Messi to get injured and he won't have his good form anymore in his team.
Argentina should stop using Messi like he is still an effective player for them and they should start forming their new Messi by using the younger players in the 2026 World Cup instead of Messi.
October 24, 2024, 01:35:09 PM
Italy is one of the countries with actually very good football, but they could not qualify for the World Cup 2 times in a row in 2018 and 2022. In fact, if we look at their domestic league, they are one of the countries with the top league rankings, but it is not that easy for them to qualify. They must be able to evaluate so that in the next World Cup they can appear in the World Cup. because this is a very deep decline that they have experienced. Just imagine a country with a league status in the top 5 in the world cannot appear in the World Cup, this is very embarrassing.
I always be remember that Italy can able to gets world cup trophy on 2006 because at their squad there are plenty of talented players available such as Del Piero, Nesta, Cannavarro, Buffon, Totti, Pirlo, Gattuso and their striker Inzaghi but after that year seems Italy regeneration squad is not working well because they don't have anymore world class players into their squad and as Euro Cup champion status they are favourited to qualified to the world cup on 2022 but in fact Italy failed even on the last match of playoff stages at that time Italy lost from North Macedonia and but we cannot judge them early because for Europa region world cup qualification stages hasn't started yet but Luciano Spalletti has hard jobs to bringing this team to qualified to the world cup after 2 times absense 
October 24, 2024, 12:23:36 PM
Lionel Messi is still the best player in Argentina and if he wants to play in the 2026 World Cup, Argentina will make him the team captain without any second thought. But it remains to be seen whether Lionel Messi will play in the 2026 World Cup. He has won the 2022 World Cup and there is no guarantee that he will win the 2026 World Cup so he will definitely want to remember the last World Cup achievement of his career forever, in which case he will definitely not want to play the 2026 World Cup. This is my personal opinion but Lionel Messi will decide whether he will play the 2026 World Cup or not.
If Lionel Messi still participates in defending the Argentine national team in the 2026 World Cup, it means that he will be 39 years old at that time. And I think it will be a difficult challenge even for a legend like Lionel Messi. Because age can never lie. But he will definitely be captain without a doubt. The only problem is whether he will retire before that or will continue his career and retire after the World Cup. Actually, he still has superior qualities even at his current age. But we don't know in the next 2 years. but I'm sure those of us who like Messi's style of play will hope he can continue playing for longer. But if we think about his achievements which have reached his peak then I think he should stop at his highest record. Now he has also succeeded in bringing Inter Miami to its peak in MLS. And I think the achievement is truly complete. And although I would have preferred to see him play longer, I think that stopping when he was at the peak of his achievements would have been better. October 24, 2024, 11:38:42 AM
To be fair, Miami is of course a team that faces simpler teams and scoring hattrick there is of course simpler to do compared to world cup where he will face the best players in the world. However, that doesn't change the fact that they have nobody better than Messi anyway, so even at 2026 he will still be the best player for his position and he will still contribute a lot.
Do I expect Messi to play and score three goals in any game during 2026 world cup? Of course not, I expect him to barely score three goals all together, but even when his stats do not show, he may still help a lot but drawing defenders onto himself, which is why it's such an important thing for everyone to keep Messi doing what he does, it will always be important.
Do I expect Messi to play and score three goals in any game during 2026 world cup? Of course not, I expect him to barely score three goals all together, but even when his stats do not show, he may still help a lot but drawing defenders onto himself, which is why it's such an important thing for everyone to keep Messi doing what he does, it will always be important.
October 24, 2024, 07:59:05 AM
Italy is one of the countries with actually very good football, but they could not qualify for the World Cup 2 times in a row in 2018 and 2022. In fact, if we look at their domestic league, they are one of the countries with the top league rankings, but it is not that easy for them to qualify. They must be able to evaluate so that in the next World Cup they can appear in the World Cup. because this is a very deep decline that they have experienced. Just imagine a country with a league status in the top 5 in the world cannot appear in the World Cup, this is very embarrassing.
I agree with you that it is an embarrassment for national teams with less competitive leagues to qualify, while Italy, which has one of the strongest leagues, have failed to qualify two times. In the history of the World Cup, Italy have lifted it four times while Brazil has won it five times. But Brazil has qualified for all the world cups. I expect the Azzurri to always be in the World Cup. In the last Euro, the defending Champions were knocked out by Switzerland. I just hope that Luciano Spalletti will be able to lead the country to qualify for the World Cup when the games start next year. 
October 24, 2024, 07:35:36 AM
Italy is one of the countries with actually very good football, but they could not qualify for the World Cup 2 times in a row in 2018 and 2022. In fact, if we look at their domestic league, they are one of the countries with the top league rankings, but it is not that easy for them to qualify. They must be able to evaluate so that in the next World Cup they can appear in the World Cup. because this is a very deep decline that they have experienced. Just imagine a country with a league status in the top 5 in the world cannot appear in the World Cup, this is very embarrassing.
October 23, 2024, 01:45:51 PM
Lionel Messi has helped Inter Miami break the MLS records, getting the highest points. They got 74 points, one ahead of the former record holders Revolution. He keeps breaking records anywhere he plays, which is an exception. Scoring his first hat trick in the MLS and ending the league scoring 20 goals and giving 16 assists in 19 matches shows that he still has the quality to keep playing.
The Argentine captain recently gave hints about his retirement but didn't give any date. There are predictions that he might retire after the World Cup. But two years is too far to be sure if he would make it to the biggest tournament in the world. But if he keeps playing with this quality, which is possible, then nothing will stop him from having a good time in the next World Cup.
I always felt like Messi went to an unimportant league a bit too early. I mean when Ronaldo went to Saudi league, there was at least other teams trying their best as well, I believe Saudi league is much much better than American league, because they are spending so much money to get old stars, there are so many star names there. Ronaldo is still scoring a lot in a simple league, but he was also older as well, which makes sense. Messi was too young when he went to USA, and he still had what it takes to be at a top club, and him scoring goals like candy there is proof that he could have been in some other team.The Argentine captain recently gave hints about his retirement but didn't give any date. There are predictions that he might retire after the World Cup. But two years is too far to be sure if he would make it to the biggest tournament in the world. But if he keeps playing with this quality, which is possible, then nothing will stop him from having a good time in the next World Cup.
Imagine if he went back to Barcelona instead of going to Miami, that dude could have helped so much with the team even right now, so this feels like a wasted opportunity to me, I would have preferred to see them do a lot better and could have seen them make a lot of money from all of this as well, should have been something that would make more sense.
October 23, 2024, 10:03:58 AM
Thank you for giving me your opinion. I am not Brazilian but I have read some articles about Brazilian football in my local media. Of course I can't get good references except from Brazilians. I remember in a short documentary it was shown how Brazilian kids love football so much. They play football almost everywhere. And there are fields everywhere even if it is just a piece of open land without grass. I don't know if it is still relevant but it seems like nowadays it is not the same as what I saw in the documentary. And about the Favelas, I heard there are a lot of talents there. I remember players like Ronaldo, Rivaldo, and Gabriel Jesus used to live there. And outside of football, one of my favorite MMA fighters, Charles Oliveira also comes from the Favelas.
October 23, 2024, 06:45:08 AM
No doubt Messi scored three goals in the span of 30 minutes and it was his MLS first hat trick. You can watch the highlights of his hattrick here
Lionel Messi scores hat trick in Inter Miami’s final game of MLS regular season | ESPN FC.
However, i believe it is too early to say how will be perform in the next world cup that is scheduled in 2026. There is still almost 2 year's time left in that event and we never know if at that time he would be in same form and rhythm. He is 37 now and by that time he maybe near 39.
Lionel Messi: I value happiness over reaching 2026 World Cup
The Argentine captain recently gave hints about his retirement but didn't give any date. There are predictions that he might retire after the World Cup. But two years is too far to be sure if he would make it to the biggest tournament in the world. But if he keeps playing with this quality, which is possible, then nothing will stop him from having a good time in the next World Cup. Lionel Messi scores hat trick in Inter Miami’s final game of MLS regular season | ESPN FC.
However, i believe it is too early to say how will be perform in the next world cup that is scheduled in 2026. There is still almost 2 year's time left in that event and we never know if at that time he would be in same form and rhythm. He is 37 now and by that time he maybe near 39.
Lionel Messi: I value happiness over reaching 2026 World Cup
October 23, 2024, 05:37:06 AM
The way they are playing badly, they might not even make it through a possible group stage of the World Cup if the team manages to qualify... worst of all is that there is no prospect of improvement in the long term... in the short term, just Neymar's return, on an individual level is good, but the rest of the team is very weak in my opinion. I don't have the courage to bet 1 cent in favor of the Brazilian team today.
I think the Brazilian squad has lost its best talent that could always create miracles in football. Some time ago I read the news and I think the corruption of their football federation is really crazy and makes them unable to find the best talent there. Brazil can always produce football legends from poor areas like Favella. I mean they can only call players who are already famous in Europe or in the Brazilian league. Without the support of the football federation I think it is difficult for Brazilian children to achieve their dreams of becoming famous footballers. Right now Brazil is at a level where they can fail to qualify. Something I never imagined before.There is a kind of "convocation mafia" in Brazil, that is, the agent who pays the most can put his player to play for the Brazilian national team and as a result he will gain value in world football. As far as I can remember, this has been happening since 2000, agents paying to have players called up. This is the only explanation for some extremely bad players being called up in recent years... And what happens with this? What we see today: an absurd lack of quality in the national team and several horrible players being called up... perhaps this also explains bad coaches coaching the national team and may be one of the reasons for Carlo Ancelotti's refusal... Corruption destroys everything.
October 22, 2024, 06:44:09 PM
I think the Brazilian squad has lost its best talent that could always create miracles in football. Some time ago I read the news and I think the corruption of their football federation is really crazy and makes them unable to find the best talent there. Brazil can always produce football legends from poor areas like Favella. I mean they can only call players who are already famous in Europe or in the Brazilian league. Without the support of the football federation I think it is difficult for Brazilian children to achieve their dreams of becoming famous footballers. Right now Brazil is at a level where they can fail to qualify. Something I never imagined before.
I don't know if you're Brazilian, but you want to know my opinion, since you mentioned favelas!?
Currently in Brazil, professional soccer, the kind that really turns a talented person into a star player targeted by big teams, is only taught in schools that few can afford. Those who are talented, but poor and live in favelas, no longer have anywhere to play... poor people in cities like Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo no longer have a place to play soccer, and this is something that extends to many other cities as well, since you don't see soccer fields anywhere that children and adults had access to, close to home.
Of course, the reason for this is also the lack of interest in the sport. I think Brazilians are no longer as passionate about soccer as they were a few decades ago.
October 22, 2024, 04:47:04 PM
Indonesia currently filled with plenty of abroad players and this makes their performance is much better compared to several years ago and because for 3rd round this is first experience for Indonesia to reach this round but i think mostly Indonesian people has thinking to realistic that finish at second place and automatically to advances to the world cup i think it's very difficult for Indonesia this because currently Group C can be considered as hell group which in this group there are several strong teams such as Japan or Australia but for 3rd place or 4th place i think this position is still possible to be achieved but with the condition they should be able to gets the winning results from China, Bahrain or Saudi Arabia
I am struck by this way of classifying. I remember that when I was a child, CONMEBOL's classification was like that. Then it was a round robin format , which I think is much better However, I like Indonesia. I hope they finish in a good place so I can see them in the World Cup. Of course, I imagine that China and Saudi Arabia are also very strong teams, especially Saudi Arabia, which has a very competitive league. They have improved a lot, especially now that they have the tactics of so many European players, because that is how you learn.
October 22, 2024, 03:35:17 PM
In the match against Bolivia, Messi wanted to prove he was still alive and playing for Argentina while people think he is not in the good form anymore. We recently saw the news about Messi and his situation in Inter Miami, he injured and even I saw some rumors about Messi they say Messi won't be able to play in all Inter Miami games because of his age and he needs more rest which means he can't have the chance to even play or Argentina in the 2026 World Cup because he will even get older than this.
Messi scored three goals and made two assists against Bolivia and he was the best player in this match.
No doubt Messi scored three goals in the span of 30 minutes and it was his MLS first hat trick. You can watch the highlights of his hattrick here
Lionel Messi scores hat trick in Inter Miami’s final game of MLS regular season | ESPN FC.
However, i believe it is too early to say how will be perform in the next world cup that is scheduled in 2026. There is still almost 2 year's time left in that event and we never know if at that time he would be in same form and rhythm. He is 37 now and by that time he maybe near 39.
Lionel Messi: I value happiness over reaching 2026 World Cup
I feel you think that's good for Argentina to have Messi in this tan dn they are still dependent on this player but that's really wrong Messi is an old player. Once he was younger he was one of the best talented for Barcelona and Argentina but time after time he got older and now even he can't play in all the games completely for Inter Miami because there is a much higher chance for Messi to get injured and he won't have his good form anymore in his team.
Argentina should stop using Messi like he is still an effective player for them and they should start forming their new Messi by using the younger players in the 2026 World Cup instead of Messi.
October 22, 2024, 06:49:12 AM
The way they are playing badly, they might not even make it through a possible group stage of the World Cup if the team manages to qualify... worst of all is that there is no prospect of improvement in the long term... in the short term, just Neymar's return, on an individual level is good, but the rest of the team is very weak in my opinion. I don't have the courage to bet 1 cent in favor of the Brazilian team today.
I think the Brazilian squad has lost its best talent that could always create miracles in football. Some time ago I read the news and I think the corruption of their football federation is really crazy and makes them unable to find the best talent there. Brazil can always produce football legends from poor areas like Favella. I mean they can only call players who are already famous in Europe or in the Brazilian league. Without the support of the football federation I think it is difficult for Brazilian children to achieve their dreams of becoming famous footballers. Right now Brazil is at a level where they can fail to qualify. Something I never imagined before. October 21, 2024, 10:31:34 AM
In the match against Bolivia, Messi wanted to prove he was still alive and playing for Argentina while people think he is not in the good form anymore. We recently saw the news about Messi and his situation in Inter Miami, he injured and even I saw some rumors about Messi they say Messi won't be able to play in all Inter Miami games because of his age and he needs more rest which means he can't have the chance to even play or Argentina in the 2026 World Cup because he will even get older than this.
Messi scored three goals and made two assists against Bolivia and he was the best player in this match.
No doubt Messi scored three goals in the span of 30 minutes and it was his MLS first hat trick. You can watch the highlights of his hattrick here
Lionel Messi scores hat trick in Inter Miami’s final game of MLS regular season | ESPN FC.
However, i believe it is too early to say how will be perform in the next world cup that is scheduled in 2026. There is still almost 2 year's time left in that event and we never know if at that time he would be in same form and rhythm. He is 37 now and by that time he maybe near 39.
Lionel Messi: I value happiness over reaching 2026 World Cup
October 21, 2024, 10:26:58 AM
Brazil looking bad is something we need to use as a cautionary tale for betting as well. So far people bet on them to win because they are one of the best teams there normally. Between Argentina and Brazil, they dominate Copa America and all the Latin American cups and they are the biggest representation of the continent in world cup as well. But looking at how they are, people who bet on them to win, and "now they are starting to be good" all ended up losing their bets and this is why it's such a huge risk as well.
I do not think we are going to see them get any great wins or anything, we are going to see them have a lot of trouble. This is why I do not think it would be a smart decision to bet on their games, we should try to avoid that. They could be recovering, they could be doing fine, but they may actually end up keep being bad as well, which is why I believe we are going to end up with a worse Brazil and not taking any risks betting on them makes sense.
I do not think we are going to see them get any great wins or anything, we are going to see them have a lot of trouble. This is why I do not think it would be a smart decision to bet on their games, we should try to avoid that. They could be recovering, they could be doing fine, but they may actually end up keep being bad as well, which is why I believe we are going to end up with a worse Brazil and not taking any risks betting on them makes sense.
I am Brazilian and I have never bet against this team, but I understand that this is not a sensible choice when we want to protect our wallet against losses.
Unfortunately, Brazil is not the same as it was years ago. In fact, no soccer team is the same... we have moved on from the time when favorites won and the others were just supporting actors in the "spectacle". Nowadays, there are no weak teams anymore and anyone has the chance to get a positive result against a "favorite" team.
Obviously, this does not justify the fact that Brazil has been in such a difficult situation in recent years. It is a fact that Brazilian soccer has fallen a lot in performance
I myself will try to bet more responsibly on the Brazilian team's next games or even not bet at all when they enter the field, just rooting for their victory seems to be a more sensible decision.
The Brazilian team today is just a shadow of what it once was. At least Neymar is coming back from injury and I believe that him being fit and playing at a high level again could even give some kind of hope for better days for the Brazilian team.
The way they are playing badly, they might not even make it through a possible group stage of the World Cup if the team manages to qualify... worst of all is that there is no prospect of improvement in the long term... in the short term, just Neymar's return, on an individual level is good, but the rest of the team is very weak in my opinion. I don't have the courage to bet 1 cent in favor of the Brazilian team today.
October 20, 2024, 01:42:52 PM
Brazil looking bad is something we need to use as a cautionary tale for betting as well. So far people bet on them to win because they are one of the best teams there normally. Between Argentina and Brazil, they dominate Copa America and all the Latin American cups and they are the biggest representation of the continent in world cup as well. But looking at how they are, people who bet on them to win, and "now they are starting to be good" all ended up losing their bets and this is why it's such a huge risk as well.
I do not think we are going to see them get any great wins or anything, we are going to see them have a lot of trouble. This is why I do not think it would be a smart decision to bet on their games, we should try to avoid that. They could be recovering, they could be doing fine, but they may actually end up keep being bad as well, which is why I believe we are going to end up with a worse Brazil and not taking any risks betting on them makes sense.
I do not think we are going to see them get any great wins or anything, we are going to see them have a lot of trouble. This is why I do not think it would be a smart decision to bet on their games, we should try to avoid that. They could be recovering, they could be doing fine, but they may actually end up keep being bad as well, which is why I believe we are going to end up with a worse Brazil and not taking any risks betting on them makes sense.
I am Brazilian and I have never bet against this team, but I understand that this is not a sensible choice when we want to protect our wallet against losses.
Unfortunately, Brazil is not the same as it was years ago. In fact, no soccer team is the same... we have moved on from the time when favorites won and the others were just supporting actors in the "spectacle". Nowadays, there are no weak teams anymore and anyone has the chance to get a positive result against a "favorite" team.
Obviously, this does not justify the fact that Brazil has been in such a difficult situation in recent years. It is a fact that Brazilian soccer has fallen a lot in performance
I myself will try to bet more responsibly on the Brazilian team's next games or even not bet at all when they enter the field, just rooting for their victory seems to be a more sensible decision.
October 20, 2024, 12:57:36 PM
No doubt Messi scored three goals in the span of 30 minutes and it was his MLS first hat trick. You can watch the highlights of his hattrick here
Lionel Messi scores hat trick in Inter Miami’s final game of MLS regular season | ESPN FC.
However, i believe it is too early to say how will be perform in the next world cup that is scheduled in 2026. There is still almost 2 year's time left in that event and we never know if at that time he would be in same form and rhythm. He is 37 now and by that time he maybe near 39.
Lionel Messi: I value happiness over reaching 2026 World Cup
Lionel Messi has helped Inter Miami break the MLS records, getting the highest points. They got 74 points, one ahead of the former record holders Revolution. He keeps breaking records anywhere he plays, which is an exception. Scoring his first hat trick in the MLS and ending the league scoring 20 goals and giving 16 assists in 19 matches shows that he still has the quality to keep playing. Lionel Messi scores hat trick in Inter Miami’s final game of MLS regular season | ESPN FC.
However, i believe it is too early to say how will be perform in the next world cup that is scheduled in 2026. There is still almost 2 year's time left in that event and we never know if at that time he would be in same form and rhythm. He is 37 now and by that time he maybe near 39.
Lionel Messi: I value happiness over reaching 2026 World Cup
The Argentine captain recently gave hints about his retirement but didn't give any date. There are predictions that he might retire after the World Cup. But two years is too far to be sure if he would make it to the biggest tournament in the world. But if he keeps playing with this quality, which is possible, then nothing will stop him from having a good time in the next World Cup.
October 20, 2024, 12:39:20 PM
China football team played very well in this match and they became successful to do two goals in this match and match was ended with 2-1 score. Abduweli was a person who gave good start to his team and he gave confidence to the players of his team and after that we saw tough competition and Zhang did second goal of the match and he did goal at the 44 minutes and after that situation was in the control of China team. Haye did third goal of the match and he did goal at 86 minutes and Indonesia and china, both teams are very close to each other and both have equal points on points table.The stat of Indonesia team was powerful but they became successful to win this match.
It's interesting, I've always seen Indonesia as one of the countries that can give and offer the most surprises in a World Cup, I've seen how they play and I like it, it's not just because it's the country, it's that they play well, I'm also surprised by China, honestly China has had an improvement that can't be set aside or go unnoticed, the fact that the new format of the World Cup has changed for more, gives these countries the opportunity to fight much more to get to the World Cup, and this is something that is seen from miles away, of all of them, I would like to see Indonesia in the USA, it's a team that for me shows promise.
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