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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on February 10, 2024, 07:09:38 AM

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on February 09, 2024, 05:08:06 AM

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I think Messi will also give other players the opportunity to progress. Having Messi with the Argentinian national team at the upcoming 2026 World Cup will certainly increase the morale of other young players. Messi is old and he knows he won't be able to play like he used to. This means that Messi is likely to be played in important matches and be a substitute at crucial times. Messi can increase the morale and self-confidence of young Argentine players and I think Messi will still have an important role for the Argentine national team in the World Cup.

It's always a bit challenging to be in the team with a superstar, because the coach will usually get pressured to put him in instead of trying the new players.

It also won't make any sense to have Messi at the bench the whole time, so I guess it would really be the most sensible thing to do to simply give them the opportunity to play by retiring while he is at the top.

I mean, what if he plays the next world cup and doesn't win it?, he will definitely retire after that one, and it would be a bit more disappointing than retiring as a champion.

Having a player like Messi can definitely put Argentina and their coach under more pressure and that's clear for me. Even a few days ago when they had a problem between Messi and Scaloni, I saw some news about Scaloni leaving the team and while he was leaving none was supporting this coach while he was the coach of the team and but people were usually supporting Messi and they even wanted their coach to leave because of one player, however, that one player is even getting old and he is far from his good form.

I actually don't think he is going to play in the next World Cup because the next World Cup is a long time away. Actually, I do not see him performing well and being ready for that World Cup that he was for the last one. I am pretty sure that there will be younger players who will show those performances for Argentina by the time.

Yes, I also agree that it will be better for him to retire as the champion instead of someone who was unable to win the last World Cup that he played. You know, I was kind of hoping for watching a Portugal versus Argentina or Ronaldo versus Messi match up in the next World Cup. But it does not matter how big of a fan I am of them, I have to accept the fact that it is over.

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Quote from: nullama on February 09, 2024, 09:33:19 PM

Quote from: Rampagoe004 on February 09, 2024, 05:08:06 AM

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I think Messi will also give other players the opportunity to progress. Having Messi with the Argentinian national team at the upcoming 2026 World Cup will certainly increase the morale of other young players. Messi is old and he knows he won't be able to play like he used to. This means that Messi is likely to be played in important matches and be a substitute at crucial times. Messi can increase the morale and self-confidence of young Argentine players and I think Messi will still have an important role for the Argentine national team in the World Cup.

It's always a bit challenging to be in the team with a superstar, because the coach will usually get pressured to put him in instead of trying the new players.

It also won't make any sense to have Messi at the bench the whole time, so I guess it would really be the most sensible thing to do to simply give them the opportunity to play by retiring while he is at the top.

I mean, what if he plays the next world cup and doesn't win it?, he will definitely retire after that one, and it would be a bit more disappointing than retiring as a champion.

Having a player like Messi can definitely put Argentina and their coach under more pressure and that's clear for me. Even a few days ago when they had a problem between Messi and Scaloni, I saw some news about Scaloni leaving the team and while he was leaving none was supporting this coach while he was the coach of the team and but people were usually supporting Messi and they even wanted their coach to leave because of one player, however, that one player is even getting old and he is far from his good form.

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Quote from: nullama on February 09, 2024, 09:33:19 PM

I mean, what if he plays the next world cup and doesn't win it?, he will definitely retire after that one, and it would be a bit more disappointing than retiring as a champion.

You are right. I think so too. Although I see Messi will still be called up to the Argentina national team if he doesn't retire. But what if Argentina loses? And what's even worse, what if Argentina experiences a world cup curse where the team that won the previous world cup will have difficulty qualifying from the group stages in the next world cup? That would be the worst moment for Messi because of course some people would blaspheme him. If Messi doesn't retire I'm sure he will still be called up. The decision is in his hands to choose to answer the call or not.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on February 09, 2024, 05:08:06 AM

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I think Messi will also give other players the opportunity to progress. Having Messi with the Argentinian national team at the upcoming 2026 World Cup will certainly increase the morale of other young players. Messi is old and he knows he won't be able to play like he used to. This means that Messi is likely to be played in important matches and be a substitute at crucial times. Messi can increase the morale and self-confidence of young Argentine players and I think Messi will still have an important role for the Argentine national team in the World Cup.

It's always a bit challenging to be in the team with a superstar, because the coach will usually get pressured to put him in instead of trying the new players.

It also won't make any sense to have Messi at the bench the whole time, so I guess it would really be the most sensible thing to do to simply give them the opportunity to play by retiring while he is at the top.

I mean, what if he plays the next world cup and doesn't win it?, he will definitely retire after that one, and it would be a bit more disappointing than retiring as a champion.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on February 09, 2024, 05:08:06 AM

Quote from: nullama on February 03, 2024, 09:42:57 PM

Yeah, it would have been a great time to retire really, being the champion and winning everything.

But I guess if you have been playing all your life, you just want to continue.

I do think it would be fair to give other players the chance to play and he can move on.

He will still make millions with ads.

I think Messi will also give other players the opportunity to progress. Having Messi with the Argentinian national team at the upcoming 2026 World Cup will certainly increase the morale of other young players. Messi is old and he knows he won't be able to play like he used to. This means that Messi is likely to be played in important matches and be a substitute at crucial times. Messi can increase the morale and self-confidence of young Argentine players and I think Messi will still have an important role for the Argentine national team in the World Cup.

I don't think if you are right now Messi. Messi can the opportunity to other players if he leaves the slot for other players to play in the team instead of himself but he won't do that. Also, Messi is losing his good performance and he is not as good anymore as he was in the past. I think the best he could do was not give up and get retire and stay in the team as a coach to help other younger players of Argentina.

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Do you doubt Lionel Messi's current quality? there are not significant level performance for Lionel Messi after leaving Barcelona and joining with PSG success bring Argentina become the winner in FFIA World Cup 2022 Qatar. Lionel Messi still in the top level performance whenever he plays right now he can keep his physical on the top level. But in FIFA World Cup 2026 he will be 38 years old and get little increasing down performance but its not impact with club he plays right now as Inter Miami.

I think has potential with Lionel Messi keep give the positive side for Argentina on next world cup edition if not get injury, Lionel Scaloni as Argentina manager still need him and Lionel Messi plays well for Argentina in World Cup qualifier CONMEBOL zone. Seems not difficult for Lionel Messi become main player for Argentina because not only show his best quality but also he can manage well motivate his team and FIFA World Cup 2026 seems the latest his appearance for national team.

Yes, I quite doubtful about Messi playing quality at the moment, especially for the upcoming 2026 World Cup so it can be confirmed that he is not really great player.
It is true that Messi and Argentina have succeeded in winning the 2022 World Cup, but that is not entirely thanks to Messi, but because all the Argentine players really deserve to win the title and they are all great players.
Moreover, Messi did not play full game in the 2022 World Cup competition and he is also striker who has completely lost his ability to play more agilely like before.
Messi has been seen experiencing decrease in energy and becomes more easily tired, he also doesn't play much in stable way because he only relies on his teammates to provide passes to be converted into goals.
I don't think he will be able to play well if he takes part in the 2026 World Cup competition.

I don't know what it will be like, I don't really follow Messi progress with Argentina because this player has lost all his playing qualities.
Messi can rely on to qualify for the World Cup, but when he actually qualifies, it is not certain that Messi will be able to play well, there are still more than 2 years left until the 2026 World Cup.

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Quote from: nullama on February 03, 2024, 09:42:57 PM

Yeah, it would have been a great time to retire really, being the champion and winning everything.

But I guess if you have been playing all your life, you just want to continue.

I do think it would be fair to give other players the chance to play and he can move on.

He will still make millions with ads.

I think Messi will also give other players the opportunity to progress. Having Messi with the Argentinian national team at the upcoming 2026 World Cup will certainly increase the morale of other young players. Messi is old and he knows he won't be able to play like he used to. This means that Messi is likely to be played in important matches and be a substitute at crucial times. Messi can increase the morale and self-confidence of young Argentine players and I think Messi will still have an important role for the Argentine national team in the World Cup.

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It seems we no longer need to speculate about Messi for the World Cup 2026. Because Messi already said that he would retire to play in the World Cup, i think his statement made 2023. If he doesn't change his decision, then we won't be able to watch Messi play in the next World Cup. Maybe this decision was to end his career as a footballer who competed in the world cup as champion. If he returns to play in the World Cup, then he might not be very happy, if he fails to bring Argentina to the same performance as the previous World Cup. So, retired from playing for the World Cup after winning, will maintain a good history and memories in his career.

IMO, it will be wise for Messi to not to participate in the FIFA World Cup of 2026. He will be forever known as the player who captained Argentina to the trophy in 2022. A poor performance in 2026 can ruin that reputation. Let the younger players such as Alexis Mac Allister, Julián Álvarez, Enzo Fernández and Nicolás González take over the responsibility. Messi will be 39 years at the time of 2026 World Cup, and I seriously doubt whether he will be in prime form. What about coaching the Argentina national football team in 2026?

Playing in the 2026 World Cup won't give anything extra to Messi and he will be a player who is old and from his good days also we can't expect him to have good performance anymore. Instead of Messi, they can think about using younger players with younger ages and build the team for the next years of Argentina.

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Quote from: FanEagle on February 06, 2024, 06:04:25 AM

Messi may have done all that he could do for, win all the cups with his national team, win all the cups (most of them multiple times) with clubs, won all the personal achievements, broke a record for ballon d'or that is so high that I think it would not be possible for anyone else to ever break in the future.

Basically, that dude is just having fun at this point, not sure how long he will stay at Miami, but I feel like if I hear him just retire and live rest of his life at ease somewhere in Miami for 40 years, I would not be shocked to hear that neither. Dude is basically on vacation, he is making a good chunk of money but nobody expects him to do anything, he just does whatever he wants to do and has fun at this point.

It's no news that Messi has gotten to that stage in football were he chooses to do whatever it is he's doing at any time, he doesn't wait to be told or been supervised and LL that, one persons are hoping to see him play in the next world cup but the look of things a d how he's been taking on he's career I think it's greatly on him to decide if he's still going to consider a career in football up till then , man just be on holidays and can at anytime leave if he wants, except for the world cup for a second time which might not be a very big deal to him after all, he's got almost all other trophies more than once so he's peaked his career already and waiting to exit at will any time.

His retirement coming in at anytime shouldn't be considered a shock and wouldn't be considered such to me as it's in anticipation for quite a period of time now, at inter Miami he doesn't stress much and gradually age is telling upon him so man is due for retirement.

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Quote from: masulum on February 08, 2024, 05:01:14 AM

It seems we no longer need to speculate about Messi for the World Cup 2026. Because Messi already said that he would retire to play in the World Cup, i think his statement made 2023. If he doesn't change his decision, then we won't be able to watch Messi play in the next World Cup. Maybe this decision was to end his career as a footballer who competed in the world cup as champion. If he returns to play in the World Cup, then he might not be very happy, if he fails to bring Argentina to the same performance as the previous World Cup. So, retired from playing for the World Cup after winning, will maintain a good history and memories in his career.

IMO, it will be wise for Messi to not to participate in the FIFA World Cup of 2026. He will be forever known as the player who captained Argentina to the trophy in 2022. A poor performance in 2026 can ruin that reputation. Let the younger players such as Alexis Mac Allister, Julián Álvarez, Enzo Fernández and Nicolás González take over the responsibility. Messi will be 39 years at the time of 2026 World Cup, and I seriously doubt whether he will be in prime form. What about coaching the Argentina national football team in 2026?

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Quote from: masulum on February 08, 2024, 05:01:14 AM

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It seems we no longer need to speculate about Messi for the World Cup 2026. Because Messi already said that he would retire to play in the World Cup, i think his statement made 2023. If he doesn't change his decision, then we won't be able to watch Messi play in the next World Cup. Maybe this decision was to end his career as a footballer who competed in the world cup as champion. If he returns to play in the World Cup, then he might not be very happy, if he fails to bring Argentina to the same performance as the previous World Cup. So, retired from playing for the World Cup after winning, will maintain a good history and memories in his career.

I think he mentioned that at the time but has since changed his mind.

Probably he got a nice contract or something like that.

Can't blame him really. Getting paid a lot of money for doing something you enjoy is great.

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Quote from: 8rch7 on February 02, 2024, 05:41:15 AM

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Do you doubt Lionel Messi's current quality? there are not significant level performance for Lionel Messi after leaving Barcelona and joining with PSG success bring Argentina become the winner in FFIA World Cup 2022 Qatar. Lionel Messi still in the top level performance whenever he plays right now he can keep his physical on the top level. But in FIFA World Cup 2026 he will be 38 years old and get little increasing down performance but its not impact with club he plays right now as Inter Miami.

I think has potential with Lionel Messi keep give the positive side for Argentina on next world cup edition if not get injury, Lionel Scaloni as Argentina manager still need him and Lionel Messi plays well for Argentina in World Cup qualifier CONMEBOL zone. Seems not difficult for Lionel Messi become main player for Argentina because not only show his best quality but also he can manage well motivate his team and FIFA World Cup 2026 seems the latest his appearance for national team.

if the performance is seen from individual achievements, namely in scoring goals or team achievements, namely the title, it is clearly decreasing. while at inter miami in official league matches only scored 1 goal, it is clear that his performance has decreased. in terms of team achievements, inter miami is in the caretaker of the last place in the MLS American league.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on February 08, 2024, 04:51:51 AM

Messi should be able to retire this year and come to the world cup as a spectator. But it looks like Messi really enjoys football and it looks like he will play in the 2026 world cup. And if Messi plays I think he is a smart player and he can rely on his intelligence and leadership for young Argentine players. I think Messi has a big influence on Argentina's young players because of course it will increase their enthusiasm and motivation for the 2026 world cup.

It seems we no longer need to speculate about Messi for the World Cup 2026. Because Messi already said that he would retire to play in the World Cup, i think his statement made 2023. If he doesn't change his decision, then we won't be able to watch Messi play in the next World Cup. Maybe this decision was to end his career as a footballer who competed in the world cup as champion. If he returns to play in the World Cup, then he might not be very happy, if he fails to bring Argentina to the same performance as the previous World Cup. So, retired from playing for the World Cup after winning, will maintain a good history and memories in his career.

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Quote from: nullama on February 06, 2024, 03:20:07 AM

Yeah, I think after winning the world cup it was the perfect time to retire.

But we'll see, maybe he's busy with some plans that we are not aware of.

And as I said, he might just simply enjoy it too much, and might continue to play for a long time.

Messi should be able to retire this year and come to the world cup as a spectator. But it looks like Messi really enjoys football and it looks like he will play in the 2026 world cup. And if Messi plays I think he is a smart player and he can rely on his intelligence and leadership for young Argentine players. I think Messi has a big influence on Argentina's young players because of course it will increase their enthusiasm and motivation for the 2026 world cup.

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Quote from: rdluffy on February 06, 2024, 09:02:01 AM

FIFA has decided on the stadium for the final, and I was surprised. I thought they were going to choose Dallas, the choice was practically certain, but after more analysis and meetings, FIFA announced that the stadium that will host the 2026 World Cup Final will be the New York New Jersey Stadium, in New Jersey, with a capacity of approximately 82,500 people.

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/canadamexicousa2026/articles/new-york-new-jersey-stadium-host-world-cup-2026-final

What do you think? Was it a good choice?

Actually not really bad choose as for the final match, the main of FIFA World Cup 2026 for United State and no doubt FIFA have showed the New York New Jersey Stadium as stadium become the final match. I think the stadiums in Canada and Mexico are only complementary to the group phase because important matches such as the final will be played at the United State stadium. Have bigger capacities of approximately 82,500 people is very ideal stadium for the final match in FIFA World Cup 2026 because the final national teams have many of fans come there for giving support for their national team.

Lets make predict or vote which one national team will play in the New York New Jersey Stadium as final match of FIFA World Cup 2026? are there national teams from European, CONMEBOL or any surprised with Asian and African national team for the first time will qualify to final match? Grin

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Hey everyone!
Every time I come to check this thread I end up coming across messages about Messi, whether or not he's going to play in the next World Cup in 2026
Since we are bettors here, and I see that the subject interests a lot, could we create a topic with this bet?
Would you participate?

Obviously by betting money or some crypto and I would research the best way to do it here on the forum (possibly on another board)

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on February 03, 2024, 05:57:36 PM

I remember even in the last World Cup when Argentina won the title some people were expecting to see Messi getting retired after that game from the international matches but he didn't do that. I think Messi is getting old and playing at this age while he is not in good form and making people to have bad memories of this legendary player especially if he plays in an important tournament like the 2026 World Cup for his country.

Messi plays with creativity and calm play. This way of playing really benefits older players like Messi because it means they are not the type of player who relies on physicality such as speed and physical fighting. Messi plays relying on his creativity in creating opportunities and providing assists. This ability is still very much needed by Argentina in the upcoming 2026 world cup. Messi's free kicks are also still dangerous. I think Messi will still shine in the next world cup but of course he won't be able to perform as phenomenally as in the previous edition of the world cup.

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Quote from: rdluffy on February 06, 2024, 09:02:01 AM

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FIFA has decided on the stadium for the final, and I was surprised. I thought they were going to choose Dallas, the choice was practically certain, but after more analysis and meetings, FIFA announced that the stadium that will host the 2026 World Cup Final will be the New York New Jersey Stadium, in New Jersey, with a capacity of approximately 82,500 people.

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/canadamexicousa2026/articles/new-york-new-jersey-stadium-host-world-cup-2026-final

What do you think? Was it a good choice?

This time after every drama we saw in Qatar because of the workers who died of hard work and everything we saw, FIFA decided to let America host the World Cup while other countries while Canada and Mexico also helped them. I think FIFA decided to host the final match in New York where America can organize everything much better however this can make New York very much crowded.

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Very important news

FIFA has decided on the stadium for the final, and I was surprised. I thought they were going to choose Dallas, the choice was practically certain, but after more analysis and meetings, FIFA announced that the stadium that will host the 2026 World Cup Final will be the New York New Jersey Stadium, in New Jersey, with a capacity of approximately 82,500 people.

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/canadamexicousa2026/articles/new-york-new-jersey-stadium-host-world-cup-2026-final

What do you think? Was it a good choice?

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Quote from: FanEagle on February 06, 2024, 06:04:25 AM

Messi may have done all that he could do for, win all the cups with his national team, win all the cups (most of them multiple times) with clubs, won all the personal achievements, broke a record for ballon d'or that is so high that I think it would not be possible for anyone else to ever break in the future.

Basically, that dude is just having fun at this point, not sure how long he will stay at Miami, but I feel like if I hear him just retire and live rest of his life at ease somewhere in Miami for 40 years, I would not be shocked to hear that neither. Dude is basically on vacation, he is making a good chunk of money but nobody expects him to do anything, he just does whatever he wants to do and has fun at this point.

Lionel Messi has excited offer receiving with Inter Miami and seems he will be longer there although on his age still get potential for playing with European team, no doubt with Lionel Messi achieving for Argentina national team have won FIFA World Cup 2022, Copa America and get personal achieving by winning 8 time Ballon D'or. I think has difference performance on FIFA World Cup 2026 if Lionel Messi still in the squad Argentina national team, he plays with lower level of domestic league such as MLS League and seems difficult for him giving the best performance from national team.

Left two years before World Cup 2026 start, not bad ideas if Lionel Messi return back to the highest level domestic league competition such as Premier League, La Liga or he could play for Serie A team if want get back his top level performance. Still not late for Lionel Messi return back to most compete league during his age around 36 years old.

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