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Quote from: criptoevangelista on April 14, 2024, 07:12:23 PM

I think a well-structured team tactically is much more dangerous than a team with a star who can unbalance the match. Today, tactical obedience and good coaches make much more of a difference on the field.

In the youth categories the fundamentals gave way to tactical training, we don't see as many young and extremely skilled boys emerging as in the past.

Teamwork is great than a one man army squad where one star player is greater than other players in the pitch and they cannot corroborate the effort of the star player with good teamwork support. It is the easiest way a club can overwork their star player and produce little results.

A typical example stems from the Portugal National Team where one of the G.O.A.T player of football history, Cristiano Ronaldo struggles to win the trophy but cannot because he's literally the biggest player there and others cant measure up their performance with the star player. I had adviced long ago for Portugal to look for great performing players to form the first 11 squad.

Now I think they're trying to build up the squad with the coming of the likes of left winger, Joao Felix of Barcelona, attacking midfielder Bernardo Silver of Man City, Nunes of Man City, Reuben Dias of Man City, and Pepe amongst others.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on April 14, 2024, 07:12:23 PM

I think a well-structured team tactically is much more dangerous than a team with a star who can unbalance the match. Today, tactical obedience and good coaches make much more of a difference on the field.

In the youth categories the fundamentals gave way to tactical training, we don't see as many young and extremely skilled boys emerging as in the past.

I think there is a balance, I do agree that a full around team is better than a team with just a star, but I also think that you can't just have no star and expect to do well. Look at Belgium for example, we are talking about a team that had Lukaku, Thibious, Kevin De Bruyne and all that, a team with stars, but they didn't do well. Because, they were not that great with the team chemistry. On the other hand, look at last finals, Argentina with Messi, and France with Mbappe, so they both had their stars as well.

This is why I believe that you do need stars, but you also need to have a team that plays well together as well, they are both very important. You can't just have one and not the other and assume you will do fine.

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Even though in the previous World Cup he didn't contribute much to his country, we also can't get rid of the fact that previously he also helped Portugal a lot. In this case we cannot blame the players, because they play as a team, and even whether a team declines or not is a very natural thing. Maybe we can see the journey of national teams that didn't even qualify for the World Cup finals, like Italy for example.
There are many things that influence their play, and it's not based on just one player. Will we also see Portuga's standout players at the Qatar World Cup? I do not think so.
Ronaldo is old, and his speed is no longer the same as when he was young, and it should also be remembered that Portugal was not that strong a country at first, after they lost many of their valuable players due to retirement. However, they have also won the UEFA EURO title before.

There is no need to deny Ronaldo contribution to the Portuguese national team, he has given the best he has. But everything must come to an end, and he was nearing retirement time. Portugal must look far ahead, they will not always hope for Ronaldo, and they will definitely find other talents like Ronaldo in young players.

Ups and downs in a team performance will definitely occur, there are many factors behind this, the mentality of a player like Ronaldo will always be needed by every team. Portugal strength is still taken into account even though Ronaldo will no longer be strengthening it in the future, and now we are still curious about Ronaldo decision in the upcoming 2026 World Cup.

On the other hand, Portugal best achievement with Ronaldo is winning EURO, if he decides to retire from the national team then that will be his best achievement. I see that in every edition of the World Cup, new talents are always born that stand out. Ronaldo era is considered over, even though he is still playing well at the moment with Al Nassr.

But the truth is that he is still delivering. I saw a video from Ibrahimovich where he said that he listens to all the criticism about Ronaldo, but it is a fact that Ronaldo is the best scorer in the Saudi Professional League. Now everyone will say that it is a bad league and that is of course true if you compare that league to the top leagues in Europe, but Ronaldo is probably still good enough to elevate his performance such that he can compete with European top teams. Everything must come to an end, that is correct, but why should something come to an end for someone when he is still able to be the best scorer in his league and to score a lot of goals for his national team?

Have a look at the scorer list for the Portugal national team in 2023. Ronaldo was the best scorer with 10 goals and Fernandes was second best with 6 goals. How does it make sense to want his career to come to an end abruptly?

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Look at Argentina. They have a more balanced situation.

Funny you should say that when immediately I think of Maradona on Argentina and their great success, even if he was covered by 3 or more players Maradona found a way to be invaluable and sometimes score directly despite all the blocking and cover the opposing team would give an obvious star like that.

I take the point though because for sure its true of team games not even not just football that the overall strength of a team is far harder to stop then just one star player who by themselves isnt enough to turn the tide of a weaker team. A team that can pass and give themselves opportunities all over the field with speed poise and in their quality of direction with the ball is a joy to watch thats football at its best.

I think a well-structured team tactically is much more dangerous than a team with a star who can unbalance the match. Today, tactical obedience and good coaches make much more of a difference on the field.

In the youth categories the fundamentals gave way to tactical training, we don't see as many young and extremely skilled boys emerging as in the past.

There is no doubt we are talking about soccer which is game of 11 players and here having just one star is never been good and ideal with having few good quality players are much better and beneficial as we have examples in recent time with not only national teams with also clubs like Bayer Leverkusen done amazing stuff and win titles without having star all teams is good, and every player is giving his best for this win.

With same, we can go for the Argentina which is also well-balanced and giving his best we need teams like these on all levels and things like these can bring better results instead of going for the star which is never been beneficial like we have only Cristiano Ronaldo which is having nothing to do for his team as there is no strong depth in team, and they are lack of quality which is important while you are going to win big events.

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Quote from: hyudien on April 15, 2024, 03:30:24 AM

Even though in the previous World Cup he didn't contribute much to his country, we also can't get rid of the fact that previously he also helped Portugal a lot. In this case we cannot blame the players, because they play as a team, and even whether a team declines or not is a very natural thing. Maybe we can see the journey of national teams that didn't even qualify for the World Cup finals, like Italy for example.
There are many things that influence their play, and it's not based on just one player. Will we also see Portuga's standout players at the Qatar World Cup? I do not think so.
Ronaldo is old, and his speed is no longer the same as when he was young, and it should also be remembered that Portugal was not that strong a country at first, after they lost many of their valuable players due to retirement. However, they have also won the UEFA EURO title before.

No one having any doubt about quality and abilities of the Ronaldo but here we have to blame Portuguese soccer system which is completely failed to give required support, and they were not able to have anything good in last few years while he was on his peak and doing impressive work for his clubs and also have heart for the national team now as we all know every good thing is having an end so he is also now 39 years old and most chances he will play his last big event with his national team in 2026 with no chance for them to have any historic success because still things are not favourable for them while they are lack of quality which is needed for the win.

Now after few weeks we will have Euro2024 which is surely going to be another big event but still things are not good as we have few top teams with impressive quality and consistency which can't allow them to have something here as well with things are needed good work and strategy if they can do for this World cup in few years.

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Quote from: hyudien on April 15, 2024, 03:30:24 AM

Even though in the previous World Cup he didn't contribute much to his country, we also can't get rid of the fact that previously he also helped Portugal a lot. In this case we cannot blame the players, because they play as a team, and even whether a team declines or not is a very natural thing. Maybe we can see the journey of national teams that didn't even qualify for the World Cup finals, like Italy for example.
There are many things that influence their play, and it's not based on just one player. Will we also see Portuga's standout players at the Qatar World Cup? I do not think so.
Ronaldo is old, and his speed is no longer the same as when he was young, and it should also be remembered that Portugal was not that strong a country at first, after they lost many of their valuable players due to retirement. However, they have also won the UEFA EURO title before.

There is no need to deny Ronaldo contribution to the Portuguese national team, he has given the best he has. But everything must come to an end, and he was nearing retirement time. Portugal must look far ahead, they will not always hope for Ronaldo, and they will definitely find other talents like Ronaldo in young players.

Ups and downs in a team performance will definitely occur, there are many factors behind this, the mentality of a player like Ronaldo will always be needed by every team. Portugal strength is still taken into account even though Ronaldo will no longer be strengthening it in the future, and now we are still curious about Ronaldo decision in the upcoming 2026 World Cup.

On the other hand, Portugal best achievement with Ronaldo is winning EURO, if he decides to retire from the national team then that will be his best achievement. I see that in every edition of the World Cup, new talents are always born that stand out. Ronaldo era is considered over, even though he is still playing well at the moment with Al Nassr.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 14, 2024, 05:30:14 PM

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All eyes were on Cristiano Ronaldo at the Qatar World Cup, as if he was competing instead of Portugal, but it is natural that he gets a lot of attention, because he is one of the best players in the world and maybe many people think it is the last World Cup that will be held. played by Ronaldo.
In fact, Bruno's problems with Ronaldo were discovered not only in Portugal, but when Ronaldo was part of Manchester United, they were said to have had a bad relationship. However, Bruno himself denied what was rumored, but we also don't know whether this problem really happened or not and maybe they don't want the public to know.
In my opinion, Ronaldo's leadership in Portugal is still needed, because until now I have not seen any figure who can replace Ronaldo's role in providing motivation to his colleagues. I don't know whether they will be fine after Ronaldo leaves or not, but I hope they can be better even without Ronaldo.

Well, let's say the eyes were all wrong because we didn't see anything special from Ronaldo during the Qatar World Cup. Regardless of the popularity of Ronaldo, it seems he was never a good player for his national team when they needed it. Ronaldo is a player who achieved many titles in the team he played for them but when we talk about the World Cup and national teams, we know Ronaldo got nothing there, in fact, Ronaldo couldn't have a good performance in the World Cup when he was a young player with better performed and now when he is older and out of his good form we can't expect anything from Ronaldo in the 2026 world cup even if he plays there,

Even though in the previous World Cup he didn't contribute much to his country, we also can't get rid of the fact that previously he also helped Portugal a lot. In this case we cannot blame the players, because they play as a team, and even whether a team declines or not is a very natural thing. Maybe we can see the journey of national teams that didn't even qualify for the World Cup finals, like Italy for example.
There are many things that influence their play, and it's not based on just one player. Will we also see Portuga's standout players at the Qatar World Cup? I do not think so.
Ronaldo is old, and his speed is no longer the same as when he was young, and it should also be remembered that Portugal was not that strong a country at first, after they lost many of their valuable players due to retirement. However, they have also won the UEFA EURO title before.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on April 14, 2024, 07:12:23 PM

I think a well-structured team tactically is much more dangerous than a team with a star who can unbalance the match. Today, tactical obedience and good coaches make much more of a difference on the field.

In the youth categories the fundamentals gave way to tactical training, we don't see as many young and extremely skilled boys emerging as in the past.

I agree with you. Modern football places great importance on the tactical aspect and because of this we often see games that are very structured and no longer showcase individual skills like in the past. Currently players with one special ability are more needed than star players. I mean of course star players are great players but in the modern era of football what is needed in the national team are players who can match the coach's style of play. This is my personal opinion so tell me if I'm wrong. But I see that star players are needed in the squad but if they do not suit the tactics of the national team coach then they have to be replaced by other players.

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Quote from: STT on April 14, 2024, 05:43:57 PM

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Look at Argentina. They have a more balanced situation.

Funny you should say that when immediately I think of Maradona on Argentina and their great success, even if he was covered by 3 or more players Maradona found a way to be invaluable and sometimes score directly despite all the blocking and cover the opposing team would give an obvious star like that.

I take the point though because for sure its true of team games not even not just football that the overall strength of a team is far harder to stop then just one star player who by themselves isnt enough to turn the tide of a weaker team. A team that can pass and give themselves opportunities all over the field with speed poise and in their quality of direction with the ball is a joy to watch thats football at its best.

I think a well-structured team tactically is much more dangerous than a team with a star who can unbalance the match. Today, tactical obedience and good coaches make much more of a difference on the field.

In the youth categories the fundamentals gave way to tactical training, we don't see as many young and extremely skilled boys emerging as in the past.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 14, 2024, 05:30:14 PM

the eyes were all wrong because we didn't see anything special from Ronaldo during the Qatar World Cup. Regardless of the popularity of Ronaldo, it seems he was never a good player for his national team when they needed it. Ronaldo is a player who achieved many titles in the team he played for them but when we talk about the World Cup and national teams, we know Ronaldo got nothing there, in fact, Ronaldo couldn't have a good performance in the World Cup when he was a young player with better performed and now when he is older and out of his good form we can't expect anything from Ronaldo in the 2026 world cup even if he plays there,

Indeed, being a football star does not guarantee a World Cup trophy.
Before the Qatar Cup, the cup was starting with great stars who took to the field in search of their first world title and Messi was one of them. Apart from him, some players had a true "dynasty" when it came to the Ballon d'Or, and Cristiano Ronaldo is one of them alongside Messi.
However, there is also the case of Lewandovski, the Polish striker twice the best on the planet, who will hardly have the opportunity to win a World Cup as Poland is not one of the favorites to qualify for the World Cup.
On this same list is Neymar, another Brazilian player who could have had the opportunity to win in Qatar as one of the big favorites, but missed out on the final despite already participating in 4 World Cups.

Anyway... we can't just look at the stars, but at the cast as a whole.

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Look at Argentina. They have a more balanced situation.

Funny you should say that when immediately I think of Maradona on Argentina and their great success, even if he was covered by 3 or more players Maradona found a way to be invaluable and sometimes score directly despite all the blocking and cover the opposing team would give an obvious star like that.

I take the point though because for sure its true of team games not even not just football that the overall strength of a team is far harder to stop then just one star player who by themselves isnt enough to turn the tide of a weaker team. A team that can pass and give themselves opportunities all over the field with speed poise and in their quality of direction with the ball is a joy to watch thats football at its best.

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I could see the struggling in Portugal in the last world cup, they didn't really perform well despite they have good players in the team. I feel these players does not have good connections with the coach , the team needs a coach that can carry the players along and bond very well with them. Portugal is a team that always makes world cup and other competitions very interesting because of their good performance which makes them to always be one of the leading teams. Just hope Portugal gets better like the way they used to be to make the next World Cup competition to be interesting.

What I think about this is that in Portugal there are players like Bruno and Cancelo who do not accept the leadership of a legend like CR7, they want to lead, and the truth is they don't have it because their football history is not as good or outstanding as that of CR7, So these types of "piques" are what lead a team on the wrong path, this is not good or healthy for any team, therefore the coach here has to put those who really do it well, Bruno is good, but if there is another player better than him, he must accept that he can be replaced, in this case things can happen like this, except that the focus of the mute is on CR7, because he is the one who receives the most news, I think the last World Cup They did nothing because of the coach by not including CR7, this World Cup I don't think they will make the same mistake.

All eyes were on Cristiano Ronaldo at the Qatar World Cup, as if he was competing instead of Portugal, but it is natural that he gets a lot of attention, because he is one of the best players in the world and maybe many people think it is the last World Cup that will be held. played by Ronaldo.
In fact, Bruno's problems with Ronaldo were discovered not only in Portugal, but when Ronaldo was part of Manchester United, they were said to have had a bad relationship. However, Bruno himself denied what was rumored, but we also don't know whether this problem really happened or not and maybe they don't want the public to know.
In my opinion, Ronaldo's leadership in Portugal is still needed, because until now I have not seen any figure who can replace Ronaldo's role in providing motivation to his colleagues. I don't know whether they will be fine after Ronaldo leaves or not, but I hope they can be better even without Ronaldo.

Well, let's say the eyes were all wrong because we didn't see anything special from Ronaldo during the Qatar World Cup. Regardless of the popularity of Ronaldo, it seems he was never a good player for his national team when they needed it. Ronaldo is a player who achieved many titles in the team he played for them but when we talk about the World Cup and national teams, we know Ronaldo got nothing there, in fact, Ronaldo couldn't have a good performance in the World Cup when he was a young player with better performed and now when he is older and out of his good form we can't expect anything from Ronaldo in the 2026 world cup even if he plays there,

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We never saw a player like Figo in Portugal but after a year they had a player like Ronaldo and he had a better performance than Figo in their team. In fact, they never had a player like Deco or Figo but instead, they got something better than these players.
Sometimes all you should do is to give some more chance to the younger players and they can see the reward. We can't expect to see a player like Ronaldo in Portugal anymore but the younger talents can take their place and help the team to get improve for the next World Cup.

I agree with you. But even a player like Luis Figo is not a player who is included in the GOAT ranks. I know he is a great player and a legend. He was one of the world's best players in his prime. But Ronaldo was born different. He's better than Figo. But to say that we will find another player like Ronaldo, like when Ronaldo appeared after Figo, I think that is very impossible. Ronaldo has many great records that most other players in the world don't even have. That's why I said it would be very difficult to find another player like Ronaldo. Without wanting to offend, I think it's easy to find a player who is greater than Figo but can you find a player who is greater than Ronaldo? Maybe we have to wait a few decades.

When Luis Figo was in his prime as a professional footballer, many people had believed that no other future player in the Portugal national will be able to as great as he was as well as achieve everything he did achieve with the team but to the surprise of many, Cristiano Ronaldo who would go on to become the greatest Portuguese player ever emerged even before Luis Figo left the national team. Now, just as you rightly said, almost everyone believes that Portugal will not be able to produce another player that'll match the records of Cristiano Ronaldo. In football, we can never say never but in my own opinion, I don't think it'll be possible for us to see any player of Portuguese decent that'll ever give us what Cristiano Ronaldo gave us. Ronaldo's numbers are too intimidating for anyone to match it now or in the future

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I could see the struggling in Portugal in the last world cup, they didn't really perform well despite they have good players in the team. I feel these players does not have good connections with the coach , the team needs a coach that can carry the players along and bond very well with them. Portugal is a team that always makes world cup and other competitions very interesting because of their good performance which makes them to always be one of the leading teams. Just hope Portugal gets better like the way they used to be to make the next World Cup competition to be interesting.

What I think about this is that in Portugal there are players like Bruno and Cancelo who do not accept the leadership of a legend like CR7, they want to lead, and the truth is they don't have it because their football history is not as good or outstanding as that of CR7, So these types of "piques" are what lead a team on the wrong path, this is not good or healthy for any team, therefore the coach here has to put those who really do it well, Bruno is good, but if there is another player better than him, he must accept that he can be replaced, in this case things can happen like this, except that the focus of the mute is on CR7, because he is the one who receives the most news, I think the last World Cup They did nothing because of the coach by not including CR7, this World Cup I don't think they will make the same mistake.

All eyes were on Cristiano Ronaldo at the Qatar World Cup, as if he was competing instead of Portugal, but it is natural that he gets a lot of attention, because he is one of the best players in the world and maybe many people think it is the last World Cup that will be held. played by Ronaldo.
In fact, Bruno's problems with Ronaldo were discovered not only in Portugal, but when Ronaldo was part of Manchester United, they were said to have had a bad relationship. However, Bruno himself denied what was rumored, but we also don't know whether this problem really happened or not and maybe they don't want the public to know.
In my opinion, Ronaldo's leadership in Portugal is still needed, because until now I have not seen any figure who can replace Ronaldo's role in providing motivation to his colleagues. I don't know whether they will be fine after Ronaldo leaves or not, but I hope they can be better even without Ronaldo.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on April 13, 2024, 11:37:51 AM

I could see the struggling in Portugal in the last world cup, they didn't really perform well despite they have good players in the team. I feel these players does not have good connections with the coach , the team needs a coach that can carry the players along and bond very well with them. Portugal is a team that always makes world cup and other competitions very interesting because of their good performance which makes them to always be one of the leading teams. Just hope Portugal gets better like the way they used to be to make the next World Cup competition to be interesting.

What I think about this is that in Portugal there are players like Bruno and Cancelo who do not accept the leadership of a legend like CR7, they want to lead, and the truth is they don't have it because their football history is not as good or outstanding as that of CR7, So these types of "piques" are what lead a team on the wrong path, this is not good or healthy for any team, therefore the coach here has to put those who really do it well, Bruno is good, but if there is another player better than him, he must accept that he can be replaced, in this case things can happen like this, except that the focus of the mute is on CR7, because he is the one who receives the most news, I think the last World Cup They did nothing because of the coach by not including CR7, this World Cup I don't think they will make the same mistake.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 12, 2024, 03:41:09 PM

We never saw a player like Figo in Portugal but after a year they had a player like Ronaldo and he had a better performance than Figo in their team. In fact, they never had a player like Deco or Figo but instead, they got something better than these players.
Sometimes all you should do is to give some more chance to the younger players and they can see the reward. We can't expect to see a player like Ronaldo in Portugal anymore but the younger talents can take their place and help the team to get improve for the next World Cup.

I agree with you. But even a player like Luis Figo is not a player who is included in the GOAT ranks. I know he is a great player and a legend. He was one of the world's best players in his prime. But Ronaldo was born different. He's better than Figo. But to say that we will find another player like Ronaldo, like when Ronaldo appeared after Figo, I think that is very impossible. Ronaldo has many great records that most other players in the world don't even have. That's why I said it would be very difficult to find another player like Ronaldo. Without wanting to offend, I think it's easy to find a player who is greater than Figo but can you find a player who is greater than Ronaldo? Maybe we have to wait a few decades.

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But I still think both teams should accept these two players are old and they need to think about the other and younger players.

Players like these are not very common for you to have them, you can get players like these that are extraordinary once in 20 decades that is why it is so difficult for the teams of these players to leat them go or retire them. Their are good players in Portugal and Argentina team but can't be compared like these legends. Despite they are of age they still make football interesting to fans. If we are been honest the talented players that we have can't be compared to the standard of these legends. Messi and and Ronaldo have created good memories in football that can't be forgotten.

I agree with you. Ronaldo and Messi are two football icons who will never be replaced. There are no other players even close to their level in their prime. It is difficult to let them go in the national team because they have an extraordinary influence on the team. I remember the moment when Ronaldo encouraged his teammates in the 2016 Euro final even though at that time France was very favored compared to Portugal. Messi also had a big influence on Argentina's overall game at the 2022 world cup in Qatar. So I think it's difficult to keep them from being called up unless they decide to retire.

Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are two of the most iconic stars in the world of football today. To some people, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are a name of passion. I know about Messi before I know about Argentina. If Messi was not an Argentinian footballer, maybe Argentina would not be known. Football has made Argentina known to the world and all Argentines know Messi. In the last World Cup, Messi fulfilled their 30-year regret and after 30 long years, Leo Messi managed to win the World Cup trophy, which was the first World Cup for Lionel Messi. Cristiano Ronaldo has contributed a lot for his country alone but he has not won any major titles so I hope that the star will win the World Cup trophy next season.

This is quite common, people know Messi before Argentina, Messi spent his entire career in Europe, he started playing at Barcelona together with Ronaldinho Gaúcho. If I'm not mistaken, it was Ronaldinho Gaucho himself who provided the pass for Messi's first goal in Barcelona's first team.

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But I still think both teams should accept these two players are old and they need to think about the other and younger players.

Players like these are not very common for you to have them, you can get players like these that are extraordinary once in 20 decades that is why it is so difficult for the teams of these players to leat them go or retire them. Their are good players in Portugal and Argentina team but can't be compared like these legends. Despite they are of age they still make football interesting to fans. If we are been honest the talented players that we have can't be compared to the standard of these legends. Messi and and Ronaldo have created good memories in football that can't be forgotten.

I agree with you. Ronaldo and Messi are two football icons who will never be replaced. There are no other players even close to their level in their prime. It is difficult to let them go in the national team because they have an extraordinary influence on the team. I remember the moment when Ronaldo encouraged his teammates in the 2016 Euro final even though at that time France was very favored compared to Portugal. Messi also had a big influence on Argentina's overall game at the 2022 world cup in Qatar. So I think it's difficult to keep them from being called up unless they decide to retire.

Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are two of the most iconic stars in the world of football today. To some people, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are a name of passion. I know about Messi before I know about Argentina. If Messi was not an Argentinian footballer, maybe Argentina would not be known. Football has made Argentina known to the world and all Argentines know Messi. In the last World Cup, Messi fulfilled their 30-year regret and after 30 long years, Leo Messi managed to win the World Cup trophy, which was the first World Cup for Lionel Messi. Cristiano Ronaldo has contributed a lot for his country alone but he has not won any major titles so I hope that the star will win the World Cup trophy next season.

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Teams that are overly reliant on one player, doesn't perform well historically. There are many examples, such as Belgium (Romelu Lukaku), Macedonia (Goran Pandeev), Wales (Gareth Bale), in addition to Portugal (Ronaldo). Look at Argentina. They have a more balanced situation. In addition to Lionel Messi, they have players such as Ángel Di María, Julián Álvarez and Lautaro Martínez. France have Olivier Giroud and Antoine Griezmann in addition to Kylian Mbappé. And such teams have performed better than the first category.

Belgium and Portugal are also good examples from today. Belgium wasted their best generation over the years. They could have been way better as a team like winning at least one championship. However nowadays they are mostly relying on Lukaku's extra contribution. He isn't performing like this at Roma now in fact but he has a lot of goals scored for Belgium lately.

Ronaldo is still at the centre of Portugal squad. Portugal still have really skilled other players also but Ronaldo's number of goals in the Euro qualifiers was just a lot. He is also carrying his national team like Lukaku does for Belgium.

We can't just blame the team because of not using the younger players because that's also up tp the player and if they don't get themselves to retire at older ages the teams should not use these players and that's disrespectful to some players like Messi and Ronaldo if the national team doesn't use these players.
I think Ronaldo should make the decision and get retire however he still wants to be at the top level and he still wants to achieve a great title like the World Cup with history but we all know that's something impossible for him at this age.

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We never saw a player like Figo in Portugal but after a year they had a player like Ronaldo and he had a better performance than Figo in their team. In fact, they never had a player like Deco or Figo but instead, they got something better than these players.
Sometimes all you should do is to give some more chance to the younger players and they can see the reward. We can't expect to see a player like Ronaldo in Portugal anymore but the younger talents can take their place and help the team to get improve for the next World Cup.

Portugal is facing the same problem as Brazil is facing. Despite having a lot of talent at home, many of the emerging players leave for other countries due to the lack of a proper national football league. And those who play in EPL, La Liga or Serie A prioritizes their club instead of the national team. And as far as Portugal is concerned, this country underwent economic upheaval a few years ago, and that time a lot of younger citizens emigrated to greener pastures. This impacted their player pool, without any doubt.

I could see the struggling in Portugal in the last world cup, they didn't really perform well despite they have good players in the team. I feel these players does not have good connections with the coach , the team needs a coach that can carry the players along and bond very well with them. Portugal is a team that always makes world cup and other competitions very interesting because of their good performance which makes them to always be one of the leading teams. Just hope Portugal gets better like the way they used to be to make the next World Cup competition to be interesting.

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