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Topic: Filipinos Playing crypto games for a living - Developer even says it is gambling - page 6. (Read 1650 times)

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    -     It cannot be denied that there are many gamers in the Philippines, and there are also many in this community of the gaming industry who are obsessed with playing games, and until now, especially in mobile games, there are still many people who play them, and there are still people who make money in mobile games, and even in other crypto games like Pixel games that they think are easy, they will actually be played by Filipinos.

Especially now with tap mining apps, it seems like the axie community has given them hope in these games because they don't release money because they expect to earn a large amount, but the truth is that it's not, and it's just a waste of time.
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Yes, if the video game is actually paying out real crypto that is worth significant earnings if converted to peso, then it is a good advantage that will even be profitable to the citizens, but I feel that in those kinds of activities, you will definitely have to meet some requirements, such as spending so much time by playing continuously, before you can even earn enough coin that can be worth a good amount. The company also has a way of making profit through the activities of their patrons, and they cannot pay more than what they are getting in return. The company will definitely have the lion's share of the profit. Just like casinos always have a high odds of making a profit from gamblers,. 
That will helps citizen to have an income besides of their job. More people will trying to have the same thing like them and that means the chance to make money will be wide openly. But yes, there will be some requirements before they can withdraw their money and that could be a limitation for them to achieve.

The company will making a big profit from people because they design that games and knows how to make money from their games. Before people join to play the games, they must research and make sure that the games really pay and not makes them regrets if they can't make money. Maybe the company will not lets people make money easily because the requirements will not easy to completed.
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Filipinos Playing crypto games for a living - Developer even says it is gambling well based on your story this developer just implement the good old days of play to earn so for me this is not gambling and you just play to earn money.

Well if all categories as gambling then playing online game is gambling now, why most of the online game has in game currency that some of it you need to buy using real fiat and thoose in game currency used for an gacha sistem for rare reward you can consider this gambling right haha, heck basically life is a gambling hehe
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If we talk about the cryptocurrency Axie Infinity, which is mentioned in the start post, then its price actually fell from $150 to about $5, that is, 30 times. This coin reached its peak in 2021 at the local tops of the crypto market. It was then that the game was most popular. But in general, it’s strange that now this game has lost so much popularity and games like it haven’t become viral to the same extent. I read that the development team for this game did not achieve success right away, this was not the first version, but it was the only one that became successful. It is difficult to make a game go viral and gain popularity in an entire country or in several countries. There must be the qualifications of the developers and luck.
And it's even harder to retrieve that hype and success that they've got once. Right now, the situation of the game is no longer as viral as before.

Although there are still a lot of players playing the game they're no longer the ones who have been there playing for the money.

Most of the players remaining are the ones that are playing the game to have fun and competition. Money was the motivation before because it seems very easy, you play even just the adventure, you'd get instant and hefty amount of money.
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Just look at the concept which itself is a failure cause it's just free money and anyone who wants to have it can just play the game and have it which means no demand which makes it completely worthless. In the beginning, it might give profits but these all are just short term and it's not new either so the chances of making one-time profit itself is in big question.

And also I just want to mention Gambling involves games but not every game is gambling.
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People will see a new chance to earn money by playing video games. If they can earn some coins and can sell it to the market, they will gets money and can be used to fills their daily needs. It will gives a new passion to them to try to earn money and that will also helps to solve the poverty problem in that country. If some people can earn money and their friends see that is real, they will join and play the video games too.

Yes, if the video game is actually paying out real crypto that is worth significant earnings if converted to peso, then it is a good advantage that will even be profitable to the citizens, but I feel that in those kinds of activities, you will definitely have to meet some requirements, such as spending so much time by playing continuously, before you can even earn enough coin that can be worth a good amount. The company also has a way of making profit through the activities of their patrons, and they cannot pay more than what they are getting in return. The company will definitely have the lion's share of the profit. Just like casinos always have a high odds of making a profit from gamblers,. 
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Aside crypto paid games, alot of people plays video games and earn alot of money from it. I know of some individuals who have been making a living from playing games and surviving through their hard times. It really makes a lot of sense since these games will be paid in crypto. Though we can't tell for now if the pays will be huge enough to cover so much expensive but at least there is a pay a lot of people will take the job. My concern now is i can't really say it's gambling, because you don't put money to play these games but earn from playing them.
I think you are talking about those streamers? Yeah, it's not a secret anymore but I think it's not easy, not only at first because you will need to garner enough audiences. Many have attempted and many have also failed. This is why they say that it is also based on luck and not just skills. If the game can be run in mobile easily and then it can also be played for free, then it's not what you can say expensive in terms of expenses. We can still waste time here though, if it turns out that the pay is only less.

It's actually a good innovation from the fillipines to help out the economy
They are helping their selves first but when they now have a money, indeed that it can also help the economy because there will now be enough demand for the services, goods, etc...
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Now from what I have checked recently is B2E or browse to earn so what your both saying about companies who want to reward their users could work in other ways too.
After reading this post on X it seems to have a large amount of people already using it at 7 million active users, so giving incentives to their customers seem to not only work in P2E for providing an avenue of income but can also be leveraged into using it for web browsing too:
https://x.com/trycarbonio/status/1810653992705237007
You are right because that can be more popular as people search for many things. If people can gets rewards from the companies or project that have B2E system, people will be like to try because they can earn something that can helps them to earn money if they sell it.

Many ways we will see coming in the future since the companies wants to makes a profit besides of attract people's attention to use their products. We will see tight competition from each companies that wants to gives something to people because each companies also wants to make a profit too. People who can used it to gets benefits from that will have a new additional sources of income that will helps their finances.
legendary
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Now from what I have checked recently is B2E or browse to earn so what your both saying about companies who want to reward their users could work in other ways too.
After reading this post on X it seems to have a large amount of people already using it at 7 million active users, so giving incentives to their customers seem to not only work in P2E for providing an avenue of income but can also be leveraged into using it for web browsing too:
https://x.com/trycarbonio/status/1810653992705237007
Nice share. I will try this one and see where it will go. Maybe I will also ask my wife to install it since she has been trying to make money online too with applications that pay in cryptocurrencies. A sideline aside from her day job.

I just remembered, that she also discussed with me an application where a user will only need to be online for an hour per day and her face revealed in the camera. You don't have to do anything at all and then they will pay based on your points.
She had already cashed out $20 and I asked how long it took before she got it, 1 month. I got sad when I heard that. But the curious part is how these businesses make money by just showing your face in the live stream camera. Up until now, I don't know the answer to it. I am also afraid that they may use that for bad intentions.
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If we talk about the cryptocurrency Axie Infinity, which is mentioned in the start post, then its price actually fell from $150 to about $5, that is, 30 times. This coin reached its peak in 2021 at the local tops of the crypto market. It was then that the game was most popular. But in general, it’s strange that now this game has lost so much popularity and games like it haven’t become viral to the same extent. I read that the development team for this game did not achieve success right away, this was not the first version, but it was the only one that became successful. It is difficult to make a game go viral and gain popularity in an entire country or in several countries. There must be the qualifications of the developers and luck.
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We may have seen a games that offers the prize in the form of money for their members so when the company wants to gives crypto as the rewards, they can do that and invites more people to join. That will attracts more attention from the people to playing the games and gets crypto as the rewards. Maybe that will helps crypto to gets more popular in that country so the number of crypto user will increase.

People will see a new chance to earn money by playing video games. If they can earn some coins and can sell it to the market, they will gets money and can be used to fills their daily needs. It will gives a new passion to them to try to earn money and that will also helps to solve the poverty problem in that country. If some people can earn money and their friends see that is real, they will join and play the video games too.
So here is the video report on this phenomenon making the rounds once more in the land of the Philippines where playing a game can make you enough in riches so to make a living?
You can decide for yourself if this statement has any truth to it or if those companies are just taking advantage of the situation to the impoverished who do not have stable work.
I'm not from Philippines, but I can correlate my experience with P2E games in crypto universe, because I live in a country where the local currency is devalued, and every earnings coming from the internet are totally worth, especially during the boom of these online games.

I played Axie Infinity for a year or so. I made a humble investment by purchasing a cheap Axie's team, without any intentions to have a competitive team, rather I was only looking for a guaranteed daily extra income through the story mode levels, which rewarded me 100 SLPs every day back then, just by playing the game for few minutes. On the golden days of Axie Infinity each SLP worthed 13 or 14 cents, although it has already reached 30 to 36 cents of dollar for a while.

Multiply it for 100 and see how much profit I was making in a daily basis. I was definitely making above an extra monthly minimum wage just by playing the game. However, the point is that these games aren't sustainable. It worked solely for a brief period of time. I could never consider it a solid career or rely on this game for an income. It's too ephemeral and uncertain.

I don't regret anything and it was really good while it lasted, but through the experience I acquired back then, now I realize I should focus my time and effort on more solid and sustainable activites, such as studying and developing a professional career. Playing games for a living at the present time isn't a reality yet, at least not for most players who don't manage to earn through another means such as referrals and social media's content.
Now from what I have checked recently is B2E or browse to earn so what your both saying about companies who want to reward their users could work in other ways too.
After reading this post on X it seems to have a large amount of people already using it at 7 million active users, so giving incentives to their customers seem to not only work in P2E for providing an avenue of income but can also be leveraged into using it for web browsing too:
https://x.com/trycarbonio/status/1810653992705237007
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So here is the video report on this phenomenon making the rounds once more in the land of the Philippines where playing a game can make you enough in riches so to make a living?
You can decide for yourself if this statement has any truth to it or if those companies are just taking advantage of the situation to the impoverished who do not have stable work.
I'm not from Philippines, but I can correlate my experience with P2E games in crypto universe, because I live in a country where the local currency is devalued, and every earnings coming from the internet are totally worth, especially during the boom of these online games.

I played Axie Infinity for a year or so. I made a humble investment by purchasing a cheap Axie's team, without any intentions to have a competitive team, rather I was only looking for a guaranteed daily extra income through the story mode levels, which rewarded me 100 SLPs every day back then, just by playing the game for few minutes. On the golden days of Axie Infinity each SLP worthed 13 or 14 cents, although it has already reached 30 to 36 cents of dollar for a while.

Multiply it for 100 and see how much profit I was making in a daily basis. I was definitely making above an extra monthly minimum wage just by playing the game. However, the point is that these games aren't sustainable. It worked solely for a brief period of time. I could never consider it a solid career or rely on this game for an income. It's too ephemeral and uncertain.

I don't regret anything and it was really good while it lasted, but through the experience I acquired back then, now I realize I should focus my time and effort on more solid and sustainable activites, such as studying and developing a professional career. Playing games for a living at the present time isn't a reality yet, at least not for most players who don't manage to earn through another means such as referrals and social media's content.
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We may have seen a games that offers the prize in the form of money for their members so when the company wants to gives crypto as the rewards, they can do that and invites more people to join. That will attracts more attention from the people to playing the games and gets crypto as the rewards. Maybe that will helps crypto to gets more popular in that country so the number of crypto user will increase.

People will see a new chance to earn money by playing video games. If they can earn some coins and can sell it to the market, they will gets money and can be used to fills their daily needs. It will gives a new passion to them to try to earn money and that will also helps to solve the poverty problem in that country. If some people can earn money and their friends see that is real, they will join and play the video games too.
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I also remember Wax blockchain as one of the popular options for these gamers.
This Wax blockchain reminded me of the game "Alien Worlds" where you are just clicking and clicking that makes me bored from the first hour of doing it. Cheesy Same with Cryptoblades.

There was actually a number of popular play-to-earn games built on the Wax blockchain. Alien Worlds was one. I've also tried it and you're right; it was boring. Strictly speaking, it wasn't even a game. You aren't playing. You're just clicking on buttons. Characters aren't even moving.

Although I didn't survive playing play-to-earn games, I can say that there's so much money in it. I've got family and friends who were into it. They're making good money. Especially if you intend to spend 8 hours on it, you'd be earning so well.
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Any means to make money that is not illegal is welcomed by me and I'm happy that the youths in the Philippines are taking advantage of these crypto play to earn games. There is high rate of unemployment in many countries and thankfully the internet and cryptocurrency have provided employment for many in the unemployment market. The youths now finds it very convenient to relax in front of their computers or smart phones to engage in making money online. Whether it's gambling, crypto or social media, they prefer it than working on a farm like the guy in the OP video or being employed to do hard jobs.
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While I'm not a gamer or a fan, my husband is. However, if I were motivated by the financial benefits of games, I would gladly join the society of players. It is the wasted time spent on the computer playing games that irritates me somewhat, and I have always believed that wasting time is not the right step. Especially if these games can help people in need improve their financial situation, this is, in my opinion, an excellent idea. In our fast world, everything is valued in money, and if both parties benefit, then such games are much better than just passing time.
The fact is that there is a lot of useless work in the world, and after that, making money in computer crypto games looks very good. But even this is not the main thing, the whole point here is that in poor countries, earning even a couple of dollars in the game is already an excellent result, because the players see how hard it was for their parents to make money while doing difficult work in the field growing crops.

The digital crypto world is developing at a rapid pace, sometimes I even think that if everyone starts playing and earning money in games, then who will be doctors or mechanics...
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I think it's not only in the Philippines but a lot of people from different third-world countries get involved in such things when they realize that there are opportunities to make money from such things. Besides, the newer generation is more into online things and working from home than going out and finding jobs that require physical attendance.

Even in my country, thousands of people are always looking for ways to earn money online because the internet and smartphones have spread all around, and people are now realizing that they can make money online and everyone wants a share of that.

However, I don't see how this is gambling, it could be compared with trading I guess because if you are paying some fees to play a game, you tend to risk some money to try and get profit from it, but if you do research and choose good projects, you will get ROI for sure.
Which country is that if you wouldn't mind me asking since we are trying to gain a perspective that it is not only in the Philippines that this phenomenon is occurring currently as the video would suggest to us.
I wouldn't doubt that this happens in many other places around the world as many other countries currencies have fallen in recent months such as richer countries for example the Yuen in Japan.
So I would not doubt there are these types of Cyber Cafes popping up around there as well and gathering a mass following from there aswell in recent months.

Now the part you and others had mentioned on the thread so far when it comes to it becoming like gambling.
If you had watched closely when they interviewed one of the developers from the game with the smiley face on the screen, you will hear him say "..this is a type of gambling since the player pays for the possibly of winning more if their choice wins". Now they explain how this new concept they were introducing to the game was a type of bingo where the player would risk their earnings to gain more but there would be a probability that they might lose.
This is the essence of gambling.
So don't be fooled with the name of it all and this is just a game, because it is not.
It is big business and we all know that they need to make money somehow so to stay in business.
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While I'm not a gamer or a fan, my husband is. However, if I were motivated by the financial benefits of games, I would gladly join the society of players. It is the wasted time spent on the computer playing games that irritates me somewhat, and I have always believed that wasting time is not the right step. Especially if these games can help people in need improve their financial situation, this is, in my opinion, an excellent idea. In our fast world, everything is valued in money, and if both parties benefit, then such games are much better than just passing time.
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I think it's not only in the Philippines but a lot of people from different third-world countries get involved in such things when they realize that there are opportunities to make money from such things. Besides, the newer generation is more into online things and working from home than going out and finding jobs that require physical attendance.

Even in my country, thousands of people are always looking for ways to earn money online because the internet and smartphones have spread all around, and people are now realizing that they can make money online and everyone wants a share of that.

However, I don't see how this is gambling, it could be compared with trading I guess because if you are paying some fees to play a game, you tend to risk some money to try and get profit from it, but if you do research and choose good projects, you will get ROI for sure.
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I don't think so unless you have a computer shop that can make multiple accounts.

You dont actually need to. Most of the people that farm these play2earn game, play with bare minimum effort daily. Probably just do few simple daily task and switch off to another accounts.

In fact, I know a whole family of 5 that handle around 200 accounts daily. They farm up in game currency on that pixels ( play2earn game ) then sell it off to another player. They make decent amount which according to them is quite huge compared to their living cost so I guess that they could be living somewhere in Asia with lower living cost
Wow! That must be exhausting for them. Also, I saw cryptocurrency online games who are restricting the usage of the same IP address or however they trace it. I think they did that with some of the games that I played. Mir4 can let one IP create 2 accounts because it's allowed since their program has Game Start 1 and Game Start 2 which is like telling you to create one more. Are they working on every account using data only? If it's one line internet subscribed then I don't think it can be done unless they use VPN. Still, I don't think I can do such a thing, just 2 accounts already made me puke. Cheesy

This is why I am amazed by those who can do this because I know they do exist. I guess it will also depend on every game. Because in Mir4, you cannot just do the dailies and make money, you need to farm minerals to exchange it for their currency so it should be running unless they can create a program that will run it without eating too much memory in the computer or smartphone. Just like what they did with Ragnarok before.
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