There's a lot of games that are very popular in the Philippines and it seems that our country is in top if every crypto based.
Even before the rise of P2E Axie Infinity in the market, the Philippines is one of the country that really make this game very popular and there are people around in my neighbourhood that time that really makes good money during it's hype so I'm not surprised by this.
As for who is making the most money, everyone, developers, cafe owners or even those players, so it's really a win win that's why it's popular in the country.
Topic: Filipinos Playing crypto games for a living - Developer even says it is gambling - page 7. (Read 1650 times)
July 09, 2024, 01:40:11 AM
July 09, 2024, 01:38:41 AM
This is just a normal strategy that's used to promote a new project that has just joined the market to gain popularity. It's just almost the same with crypto airdrop games where participants get a fraction of the allocated coin that's to be released when they participate in the project by playing the games. Because participant want to get more coin and that the only way to do so is through consistent playing of the games, it cause them to remain active players and help the game to continue gaining relevance in the long run.
I wouldn't call it gambling since it's more of a play to earn game rather than a pay to earn or lose game. It's only going to become addictive and unnecessarily engaging to some extent since it will consume more time of the individual players and maybe deprive them the time they would have used in putting into a more productive activity. At the end of the day, the cafe owners makes money from the game while most players struggle and easily become addicted in the game.
I wouldn't call it gambling since it's more of a play to earn game rather than a pay to earn or lose game. It's only going to become addictive and unnecessarily engaging to some extent since it will consume more time of the individual players and maybe deprive them the time they would have used in putting into a more productive activity. At the end of the day, the cafe owners makes money from the game while most players struggle and easily become addicted in the game.
July 08, 2024, 11:57:56 PM
P2E games aren't promising, Mobile Legends is really popular in The Philippines. The games isn't P2E, but if you gets fame and your performance is very good, you will make a lot money and you don't have to switch the games since the popularity high unlikely would ends.
Cyber cafe owners should make more money than the players, but if the players are really funny and there are a lot followers donate them money, the players could be rich than the cyber cafe owners.
- Who makes the most money. I kept wondering as I watched it. Is it the cyber cafe owner where the kids gather to play, the players, or the developers?
The developers makes the most money, even though they're giving free tokens to the players, but they get a lot investment, sponsors, top up from the players, data from the players etc.Cyber cafe owners should make more money than the players, but if the players are really funny and there are a lot followers donate them money, the players could be rich than the cyber cafe owners.
July 08, 2024, 11:13:45 PM
When I first watched this on YouTube, I didn't give it much thought. However, since it has been brought here to the forum for discussions, I will share my thoughts.
- Who makes the most money. I kept wondering as I watched it. Is it the cyber cafe owner where the kids gather to play, the players, or the developers?
- I also disagree with the developer who said this is not gambling. It is gambling because there is a wager for an expected financial outcome.
- The probability of getting addicted to these games is very high most especially by those who are underaged. Therefore, I think the government should step in and do some regulation.
- It seems the casinos have to gear up for real competition. While it may not kick them out of business, they are probably going to see a drop in their revenue as people shift their attention to this new way of "making - easy - money".
- Who makes the most money. I kept wondering as I watched it. Is it the cyber cafe owner where the kids gather to play, the players, or the developers?
- I also disagree with the developer who said this is not gambling. It is gambling because there is a wager for an expected financial outcome.
- The probability of getting addicted to these games is very high most especially by those who are underaged. Therefore, I think the government should step in and do some regulation.
- It seems the casinos have to gear up for real competition. While it may not kick them out of business, they are probably going to see a drop in their revenue as people shift their attention to this new way of "making - easy - money".
July 08, 2024, 10:26:17 PM
The games industry considera this as a marketing campaign, spend money on players sometimes has a better impact than spend that same money on adds, and I see this as a good practice.
And that doesn't happen only in the philipines, that's something that we see all around the wold nowadays. In latam we have some influencers like Fernando Flow who uses his network to promote New games.
This is so very true. They are wanting to have a different approach now. Maybe the rise and fall of Axie Infinity showed future developers of these P2E games the error of their ways.And that doesn't happen only in the philipines, that's something that we see all around the wold nowadays. In latam we have some influencers like Fernando Flow who uses his network to promote New games.
I remember when the coin was valued very high but when the collapse of FTX happened it suffered until it wasn't worth nearly anything to anyone.
Whenever these developers wanted to make a Play-2-Earn game, their target is always our country - the Philippines. I mean why not? Axie Infinity, Pegaxy, Plants Vs. Undead are the ones that became popular P2E games when it was on hype, and for sure, many people made huge money playing on it.
Playing while earning. This what makes it attractive and for a developing country like the Philippines, it's really attractive especially if you realize that you can earn way more than working 8 hours earning only minimum wage and the best part is, you are only spending at least half of the usual 8 hours working time to earn twice as much. These developers are using our country to attract more investors. As for these crypto games that can be considered as gambling, I don't see any gambling feature from them aside from the fact that you might lose your money if the developers decided to rug pull from their investors.
Same with Cryptoblades.
Funny that you mentioned Undead because for the very first time I seen and actually noticed it while visiting a Coin Price Market website as an advertisement and clicked on it. All because I had posted about this earlier today and wanted to see if it was one of these Pay to Earn games. And was in the least surprised when I did, that it was.Playing while earning. This what makes it attractive and for a developing country like the Philippines, it's really attractive especially if you realize that you can earn way more than working 8 hours earning only minimum wage and the best part is, you are only spending at least half of the usual 8 hours working time to earn twice as much. These developers are using our country to attract more investors. As for these crypto games that can be considered as gambling, I don't see any gambling feature from them aside from the fact that you might lose your money if the developers decided to rug pull from their investors.
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I also remember Wax blockchain as one of the popular options for these gamers.
This Wax blockchain reminded me of the game "Alien Worlds" where you are just clicking and clicking that makes me bored from the first hour of doing it. I also remember Wax blockchain as one of the popular options for these gamers.
Same with Cryptoblades. Now there was this thread I had noticed with the same concept over at the altcoin topic that might be the same:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/over-100-million-players-on-hamster-kombat-5499333
July 08, 2024, 10:04:11 PM
Whenever these developers wanted to make a Play-2-Earn game, their target is always our country - the Philippines. I mean why not? Axie Infinity, Pegaxy, Plants Vs. Undead are the ones that became popular P2E games when it was on hype, and for sure, many people made huge money playing on it.
Playing while earning. This what makes it attractive and for a developing country like the Philippines, it's really attractive especially if you realize that you can earn way more than working 8 hours earning only minimum wage and the best part is, you are only spending at least half of the usual 8 hours working time to earn twice as much. These developers are using our country to attract more investors. As for these crypto games that can be considered as gambling, I don't see any gambling feature from them aside from the fact that you might lose your money if the developers decided to rug pull from their investors.
Same with Cryptoblades.
Playing while earning. This what makes it attractive and for a developing country like the Philippines, it's really attractive especially if you realize that you can earn way more than working 8 hours earning only minimum wage and the best part is, you are only spending at least half of the usual 8 hours working time to earn twice as much. These developers are using our country to attract more investors. As for these crypto games that can be considered as gambling, I don't see any gambling feature from them aside from the fact that you might lose your money if the developers decided to rug pull from their investors.
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I also remember Wax blockchain as one of the popular options for these gamers.
This Wax blockchain reminded me of the game "Alien Worlds" where you are just clicking and clicking that makes me bored from the first hour of doing it. I also remember Wax blockchain as one of the popular options for these gamers.
Same with Cryptoblades. 
July 08, 2024, 09:45:58 PM
I don't understand how it became gambling. Playing blockchain-based games isn't gambling. They're not even betting. They're risking nothing at all. So, how are these gamers gambling? They're earning because of the rewards provided by the games. Their income is more or less stable. It isn't like they earn sometimes and lose sometimes. They treat these games as their source of income.
I remember Axie Infinity players a few years ago earning more than a thousand dollars a month by merely playing for a couple of hours each day. That's good enough income. They have a lot of time left for the day that's why many of them are keeping more than one account. Others are playing different play-to-earn games. I also remember Wax blockchain as one of the popular options for these gamers.
I remember Axie Infinity players a few years ago earning more than a thousand dollars a month by merely playing for a couple of hours each day. That's good enough income. They have a lot of time left for the day that's why many of them are keeping more than one account. Others are playing different play-to-earn games. I also remember Wax blockchain as one of the popular options for these gamers.
July 08, 2024, 07:08:12 PM
I maybe don't agree to the article spreading that Filipinos Playing crypto game to escape poverty since I just had a feeling that they used that title to click bait their readers. Since at first place filipino young or old love to play pc and mobile games. Maybe they are just grabbing the opportunity to earn money while playing when they discover that there are ways to monetize their time playing those games they like then earn from it.
But for sure that's few percentage people living in that country since not all know the existence of crypto games also people are so busy working their ass on other thing. Axie infinity really open up a lot of of opportunity for people to seek for other more source to gain and there's nothing wrong with this since its just show that young people now are so smart to grab those opportunities able and they are not just wasting their time for nonsense games out there.
But for sure that's few percentage people living in that country since not all know the existence of crypto games also people are so busy working their ass on other thing. Axie infinity really open up a lot of of opportunity for people to seek for other more source to gain and there's nothing wrong with this since its just show that young people now are so smart to grab those opportunities able and they are not just wasting their time for nonsense games out there.
July 08, 2024, 05:01:52 PM
I've watched this video and that explanation of the developer whom I know by his name is really explaining a gamble. While most of us have been very optimistic with the NFT games like Axie Infinity, it's true that it is very risky and many of us have been delved into it trying to survive during the pandemic. But after the brutality of the bearish season, everyone have started to take an exit and took the losses just like me. The risk is there for NFT games not just for the games but also for the market and token that we'll receive playing them.
July 08, 2024, 04:44:42 PM
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Personally know a friend who's one of these guys, or at least part of a group. They beta-test a lot of web3 games and earn like a LOT of money off of it. They don't play for the tokens or whatnot, just test the games play it for 8 hrs a day, even more and the team behind the game pays them. Probably why they earn a lot in the first place since they're not really doing crypto, just standard, generic job of playing games. For the games like Axie they showed on the vid, I highly doubt they earn that much. Even if it was higher than the minimum wage I don't think it'd be higher by that much in the first place. Wouldn't really say it's better than a job where you can hone your skill. But well, honing their skill is probably the last thing they want to consider when earning money tbf.
July 08, 2024, 04:36:14 PM
The Philippines is ruled by a dictatorial government that has stayed in power by fully taking advantage of the Philippine people's poverty. Philippines have become a hub for outsourcing and for cheap labour. Labour rights are non existent over there. It's a large corporation's dream.
But for the people that live under these conditions it's a modern hell. No infrastructure, rising costs, crumbling cities and to too it all off, a dictator that has lavish holidays in his many homes abroad with the people's money. The minimum wage in the Philippines is so low that for them it is worth it to stay online all day and grind some shitty play to earn games. It's not just crypto games, they also play games like WoW and Old School RuneScape. It's a very sad reality. Hopefully people in the Philippines will soon rise up against this good for nothing status quo that has been imposed on them.
But for the people that live under these conditions it's a modern hell. No infrastructure, rising costs, crumbling cities and to too it all off, a dictator that has lavish holidays in his many homes abroad with the people's money. The minimum wage in the Philippines is so low that for them it is worth it to stay online all day and grind some shitty play to earn games. It's not just crypto games, they also play games like WoW and Old School RuneScape. It's a very sad reality. Hopefully people in the Philippines will soon rise up against this good for nothing status quo that has been imposed on them.
July 08, 2024, 03:40:38 PM
The games industry considera this as a marketing campaign, spend money on players sometimes has a better impact than spend that same money on adds, and I see this as a good practice.
And that doesn't happen only in the philipines, that's something that we see all around the wold nowadays. In latam we have some influencers like Fernando Flow who uses his network to promote New games.
And that doesn't happen only in the philipines, that's something that we see all around the wold nowadays. In latam we have some influencers like Fernando Flow who uses his network to promote New games.
July 08, 2024, 02:02:05 PM
I think this is a good initiative from the developers to keep up with the play to earn games so that their country men can be able to earn from the games they play. To the best of my knowledge, that country has no much resources that can sustain their nationals so they can go to any means that seems legit to see how they can generate a means of income for themselves.
Now that it is the era of gamefi ie P2E and there are lots of telegram tap games that earn players rewards of their token to trade for fiat, I believe they could take advantage of it and earn from it so they could be able to trade the token rewards for money when the time and opportunity avails itself.
Now that it is the era of gamefi ie P2E and there are lots of telegram tap games that earn players rewards of their token to trade for fiat, I believe they could take advantage of it and earn from it so they could be able to trade the token rewards for money when the time and opportunity avails itself.
July 08, 2024, 01:46:21 PM
Plants versus Undead
I played this up until the marketplace was destroyed with thousands of bots after the 2.0 update that they gave away lots of free plants lol
I don't think so unless you have a computer shop that can make multiple accounts.
You dont actually need to. Most of the people that farm these play2earn game, play with bare minimum effort daily. Probably just do few simple daily task and switch off to another accounts.
In fact, I know a whole family of 5 that handle around 200 accounts daily. They farm up in game currency on that pixels ( play2earn game ) then sell it off to another player. They make decent amount which according to them is quite huge compared to their living cost so I guess that they could be living somewhere in Asia with lower living cost
They can earn up to twice the minimum wage – an irresistible prospect for young Filipinos hoping to escape poverty.
People work atleast 6-8 hours daily to get minimum wage while they probably work for around the same hours with twice of their minimum wage on these play2earn games so yeah I kinda get it there
July 08, 2024, 01:27:22 PM
Aside crypto paid games, alot of people plays video games and earn alot of money from it. I know of some individuals who have been making a living from playing games and surviving through their hard times. It's actually a good innovation from the fillipines to help out the economy. It really makes a lot of sense since these games will be paid in crypto. Though we can't tell for now if the pays will be huge enough to cover so much expensive but at least there is a pay a lot of people will take the job. My concern now is i can't really say it's gambling, because you don't put money to play these games but earn from playing them.
July 08, 2024, 12:18:45 PM
they are in their 20s. as long as they enjoy and make money more than the regular 9-5 job, they will take it. 12 hours is nothing when yo are with your friends. 
People in their 20s are already eligible for corporate jobs. If they live in a country that has a great economy, they will not spend 12 hours a day to make that amount. In the reality of those playing the games it is very beneficial to them and allows them to have fun and also earn.Spending 12 hours a day on an activity increases the likely hood of the players getting addicted too.
- Jay -
July 08, 2024, 12:15:07 PM
This is nothing different from what has been happening in the crypto space for many years now. The video says they can earn up to €300 monthly, the value of that amount for 12 hours or more of work depends on where one lives. In fully developed countries, it is not much at all and many will say not worth the effort, in lower income countries, that is a lot of money, way higher than the minimum wage citizens benefit.
The gambling aspect of it is also not new. There has always been games you can put an amount on, compete against other players and get the pool if you win. The house gets a fixed percent from each round.
- Jay -
The gambling aspect of it is also not new. There has always been games you can put an amount on, compete against other players and get the pool if you win. The house gets a fixed percent from each round.
- Jay -
they are in their 20s. as long as they enjoy and make money more than the regular 9-5 job, they will take it. 12 hours is nothing when yo are with your friends.
July 08, 2024, 12:09:29 PM
This is nothing different from what has been happening in the crypto space for many years now. The video says they can earn up to €300 monthly, the value of that amount for 12 hours or more of work depends on where one lives. In fully developed countries, it is not much at all and many will say not worth the effort, in lower income countries, that is a lot of money, way higher than the minimum wage citizens benefit.
The gambling aspect of it is also not new. There has always been games you can put an amount on, compete against other players and get the pool if you win. The house gets a fixed percent from each round.
- Jay -
The gambling aspect of it is also not new. There has always been games you can put an amount on, compete against other players and get the pool if you win. The house gets a fixed percent from each round.
- Jay -
July 08, 2024, 11:52:22 AM
Seen a video released recently about how the video game industry had been trying to reinvent itself by offering a reward in the form of cryptocurrency for those who choose to play their games.
Now this is not new and I remember how people were saying they were playing a very well known title of these play-to-earn video games in exchange for cryptocurrency called Axie Infinity.
Where some were playing for extended amounts of time and claimed they had made enough to afford a modest house where they reside.
This was more so for those players of these crypto-games who hail from the Philippines.
But times have changed since then and from what I remember the coin from those earlier games had dropped significantly. And these games such as the one fore mentioned had fallen off and not as popular as it was before due to the drop in in price.
But now there are a new batch of games that those developers want to pay players to play once again.
So here is the video report on this phenomenon making the rounds once more in the land of the Philippines where playing a game can make you enough in riches so to make a living?
You can decide for yourself if this statement has any truth to it or if those companies are just taking advantage of the situation to the impoverished who do not have stable work.
Playing crypto games for a living: Filipinos seek to escape poverty
"Can you make a living from playing video games? Millions of Filipinos who earn cryptocurrency playing online games seem to think so. Players earn tokens they then trade in a virtual market for pesos or dollars. They can earn up to twice the minimum wage – an irresistible prospect for young Filipinos hoping to escape poverty. But cryptocurrencies are also extremely volatile. Their value in the Philippines is estimated at $7 billion, but they can collapse at a moment’s notice. Our team on the ground reports."
source from France24 a public broadcast service:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q0-n8WHlwI
Of course people can escape poverty through gambling, since the casino companies have been giving them cryptocurrency as a reward for their win or for maybe using their platform to gamble, they can actually win significant amounts that can change their fortune for life. You can still have stable job and gamble, so I don't see how the Casino companies are taking advantage of their situation to impoverish them, or except if they where coax to gamble against their will. Now this is not new and I remember how people were saying they were playing a very well known title of these play-to-earn video games in exchange for cryptocurrency called Axie Infinity.
Where some were playing for extended amounts of time and claimed they had made enough to afford a modest house where they reside.
This was more so for those players of these crypto-games who hail from the Philippines.
But times have changed since then and from what I remember the coin from those earlier games had dropped significantly. And these games such as the one fore mentioned had fallen off and not as popular as it was before due to the drop in in price.
But now there are a new batch of games that those developers want to pay players to play once again.
So here is the video report on this phenomenon making the rounds once more in the land of the Philippines where playing a game can make you enough in riches so to make a living?
You can decide for yourself if this statement has any truth to it or if those companies are just taking advantage of the situation to the impoverished who do not have stable work.
Playing crypto games for a living: Filipinos seek to escape poverty
"Can you make a living from playing video games? Millions of Filipinos who earn cryptocurrency playing online games seem to think so. Players earn tokens they then trade in a virtual market for pesos or dollars. They can earn up to twice the minimum wage – an irresistible prospect for young Filipinos hoping to escape poverty. But cryptocurrencies are also extremely volatile. Their value in the Philippines is estimated at $7 billion, but they can collapse at a moment’s notice. Our team on the ground reports."
source from France24 a public broadcast service:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q0-n8WHlwI
As a human being, it's good to keep hope and hardwork alive and that is what most of the Filipino people that are into this gambling are doing, if they can win twice of their minimum wage on cryptocurrency casino bet, it then means they will be living above the countries minimum wage, which will automatically take them to a middle class line in their society, and that for me is above the poverty line.
July 08, 2024, 11:26:19 AM
So here is the video report on this phenomenon making the rounds once more in the land of the Philippines where playing a game can make you enough in riches so to make a living?
You can decide for yourself if this statement has any truth to it or if those companies are just taking advantage of the situation to the impoverished who do not have stable work.
it has some truth in it, I mean, yeah, companies are taking advantage of it, it is a great way to advertise and attract people to play their game. also regarding if people can make enough riches to make a living, I am not if you can make a living off of it but you can surely earn money through it, I mean if you have invested enough money into the game that even when the token has lost some value or if the way earning the token becomes harder you still get enough of it or has found another way to earn money through the game. th You can decide for yourself if this statement has any truth to it or if those companies are just taking advantage of the situation to the impoverished who do not have stable work.
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