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Topic: fillippone merited thread need more support of merit source. (Read 869 times)

legendary
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Merit: 1081
Goodnight, o_e_l_e_o 🌹
Anybody is free to make an application to be a merit source, but one thing is involved here, one has to be more considerate in checking self to see if he's eligible enough for an application, check to see if you're worthy for the application and personally accessed yourself, Theymos can review those who applied at anytime when he feels there's a need to add more additional merit sources, here it's not in additional merit sources that matters if not the pattern through which tye merit sources distributes theirs, i want to believe that's how he has wanted his own, meanwhile the thread is still subjected to change in rules if he wish.
In all the merit source applications I have witnessed in this forum, I haven't seen where theymos approved any. It could be that he believed that the number of merit sources in BTT is sufficient for effective distribution of merits in the forum.

I also believe that without applications, theymos should be able to know active participants in the forum and give them the role of a merit source. I will not want to see new merit source application when old ones have not been attended to.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 560
Anybody is free to make an application to be a merit source, but one thing is involved here, one has to be more considerate in checking self to see if he's eligible enough for an application, check to see if you're worthy for the application and personally accessed yourself, Theymos can review those who applied at anytime when he feels there's a need to add more additional merit sources, here it's not in additional merit sources that matters if not the pattern through which tye merit sources distributes theirs, i want to believe that's how he has wanted his own, meanwhile the thread is still subjected to change in rules if he wish.
sr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 454
do you know that merits sources is hidden theymos did not make open when making some people a merit sources so that no one will disturb them through pm to give them merit, so nobody merits  sources is giving merit hidden, I know this my thread is a personal suggestion of supporting a particular thread which one of the merits sources created which may or they may not support the thread because they have a designation were they spend their own merits but people their merits is open is the people I mentioned and I have already notice their good wills including any other persons, I'm not pleading any one to merit in that thread or begging but i make my observation and opinion be known in public

I quite agree with you on that ( theymos did not make open when making some people a merit sources so that no one will disturb them through pm) speaking on that thread, I feel the load over there is very very much for one person to handle and we can't really point out that this is a merit source to help out but I feel they should make the merit distribution as random as possible no matter the thread. They're not doing bad but no matter the thread I'd say let all merit source help scout out better post to be merited, we all know some people don't have patience but is for the best of the OP to see a helping hand to reduce his work load. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but if this seems to be the way they want it to be then so be it.
full member
Activity: 700
Merit: 205
You would agree with me that Ronaldo and Messi are great footballers but each of them has his own playing style, same is applicable to merit sources on the forum. They all have one goal to see the evenly distribution of merits to quality posters and they all have their own style. So I really don't see the need for creating this topic and not as if Fillippone is complaining or did he ask you to be his mouthpiece? Don't lost sight of the big picture, always have it at the back of your mind that merit is just side attraction, the primary reason why you're here is to learn about bitcoin and other crypto-related stuffs.
do you know that merits sources is hidden theymos did not make open when making some people a merit sources so that no one will disturb them through pm to give them merit, so nobody merits  sources is giving merit hidden, I know this my thread is a personal suggestion of supporting a particular thread which one of the merits sources created which may or they may not support the thread because they have a designation were they spend their own merits but people their merits is open is the people I mentioned and I have already notice their good wills including any other persons, I'm not pleading any one to merit in that thread or begging but i make my observation and opinion be known in public
sr. member
Activity: 672
Merit: 416
stead.builders
If every member byou newbie or a senior member do the needful, share the needful and enlightening  resource then such individual doesn't need to fam for merit, merits would look for you by virtue of those that comes in contact with your posts as a reward for giving them an informative note.

I hope you understand when it was been said that merit is earned and not demanded, you earn it by the intensity in quality delivery you made through your post, merit is not what you receives for making a post,you work it out by giving the best someone can point out to see that it's meaningful, remember you're not the judge here, the third party seing your post will determine the extent at which he thinks it's deserving for merit.

Don't give fillippone any more work than he has to do on merits. He'd better take advantage of the summer to go to the beach with pretty girls, as befits the Italian stallion.

I think The Sceptical Chemist has explained it quite well.

And you're also here making an emphatic stress on the same issue again, do you care joining on such vacation or probably you make your own way out to help in the situation.
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 144
When you follow someone and and ask his money, merit, it is begging. If you ask his merit, it is merit begging. If you ask his money, it is money begging.
Do not beg for merit excessively.
Read the last word you quoted "excessively".

I don't think it's wrong for someone to ask merit sources to review his posts or report some of his best posts to merit sources and ask for merit if he deserve it.

But it's wrong if you force the merit source to merit your post even though they feel you not deserve about it.
Submitting posts to merit sources for review is not excessively.

Creating this topic is excessively.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1341
It all comes down to fake communication; people roam the forum in search of merit, turning the forum not into live communication but into some kind of student branch with their test papers.
That is right, everyone, mostly newbies to full members now are into teaching of students on Bitcoin even those who have not even seen the four corners (walls) of the classroom are in teaching of students or kids. The imitation is on the peak. Many of them are not even teaching, but produce fake pictures and making the original teachers to look like fake.
As you said, in those days to rank was a thug of war, one must create quality thread to attract merits but today, things are very simple that they are not even creating good discussable threads.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1037
Let's force all the merit sources to open their own merit distribution thread, let's force all users to posts for only earn merits, let's make the Beginners & Help and Reputation sections filled of "[insert merit source name] merited thread" where it will be bounty v2.0 section since every users just report their good posts.

There's no point to hoard sMerit, but it doesn't mean all merit sources need to force themselves to always distribute all of their sMerit.

This is exactly right.

I like the idea of requesting a post review but that's as far as it should go. If a merit source like SC wants to start a thread from his own will for post reviews and accept applications when he is doing them - fine - I mean, even that is a bit too much but it's not the worst idea for people who are making good content and feel they are going unnoticed.

All the other garbage though, it just makes people want and try to game those threads or it effects their posts.

I think Merit is just something that shouldn't be discussed. Ideally, the system should just be used as intended and overall it should be thought as if it isn't there. Post good quality, get merits, end of story. Not good quality, low or no merits. It's pretty simple.
sr. member
Activity: 658
Merit: 441
I tried observe fillippone in this thread Re: [Merit] Share your best topics with Fillippone to be merit assessed and i understand that the total number of users both senior colleagues and newbies submitting application of replies and new created thread to be merited is much, despite that the thread was created by fillippone to help people from different countries to rank up to new ranks, i think it needs helping hands of other merit sources and other users who always earn a merit help and merit some of qualify application of users who applied there.
You would agree with me that Ronaldo and Messi are great footballers but each of them has his own playing style, same is applicable to merit sources on the forum. They all have one goal to see the evenly distribution of merits to quality posters and they all have their own style. So I really don't see the need for creating this topic and not as if Fillippone is complaining or did he ask you to be his mouthpiece? Don't lost sight of the big picture, always have it at the back of your mind that merit is just side attraction, the primary reason why you're here is to learn about bitcoin and other crypto-related stuffs.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 3983
If you ask his merit, it is merit begging. If you ask his money, it is money begging.
Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Theymos was asked about these topics and no objection was raised so we cannot consider it merit begging but I personally consider it spam, the participants in these topics are content to create 10 high-quality topics, put them in a list, search for any source that gives them merits for those threads, repeat it again and again.

The result is 10 high quality posts, 100 low quality posts, many spam review posts trying to get those 10 high quality posts more merits.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 633
When you follow someone and and ask his money, merit, it is begging. If you ask his merit, it is merit begging. If you ask his money, it is money begging.
Do not beg for merit excessively.
Read the last word you quoted "excessively".

I don't think it's wrong for someone to ask merit sources to review his posts or report some of his best posts to merit sources and ask for merit if he deserve it.

But it's wrong if you force the merit source to merit your post even though they feel you not deserve about it.

However @OP create this thread is pointless since not every merit source want to create their own thread to distribute their sMerit.
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 144
Why does it seems like merit begging, what is merit begging because as it seems now it all depends on user preference, what one sees as smart move may be seems by another as dumb (with regards to the upper rank members).
When you follow someone and and ask his money, merit, it is begging. If you ask his merit, it is merit begging. If you ask his money, it is money begging.
Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

Do not beg for merit excessively.
sr. member
Activity: 700
Merit: 470
Hope Jeremiah 17vs7
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Why does it seems like merit begging, what is merit begging because as it seems now it all depends on user preference, what one sees as smart move may be seems by another as dumb (with regards to the upper rank members).

 Ranking up becomes difficult as time goes because there are a lot of members joining this forum though some are spammers, shit posters and others who go against the rule but there are others who also sticks to the rules and try to contribute in what way they can but did find it hard in ranking up, I guess that why Theymos created the merit source system and they work the way its convenient or  they see its more appropriate for them but currently it seems like there are few merit source (maybe they are few indeed or they have become tired of meriting others who later become shit posters or break rules or more focus on their local board or some other reasons) since there are now more good posters as time goes by ( keeping the fact that there are also more rule breakers ).
 OP the fact is Fillippone doesn't want any assistance because if he does he would have stated it, just as how LoyceV did here
Merit sources
If you want to help, please add this topic to your watch list (or post here). If you post as a Merit source, I won't delete that post
because this is among the Thread that inspired him to allocate merit this way.

However, I don't know how many merit sources there currently are, or how active they are, but I'll betcha it'd probably help things if Theymos added some new ones.  Speaking of that, I haven't seen any new applications to be a merit source in quite some time.
But I don't think there is really any need for more merit source at the moment because there are likely gonna be more shit post merited since more smerits would be available and the standard for a good post would decrease or have a stunted growth as time goes by (I guess that the reason Theymos has not add any more merit source currently).
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Don Pedro Dinero alt account
Don't give fillippone any more work than he has to do on merits. He'd better take advantage of the summer to go to the beach with pretty girls, as befits the Italian stallion.

I think The Sceptical Chemist has explained it quite well.
sr. member
Activity: 644
Merit: 262
If every member byou newbie or a senior member do the needful, share the needful and enlightening  resource then such individual doesn't need to fam for merit, merits would look for you by virtue of those that comes in contact with your posts as a reward for giving them an informative note.
sr. member
Activity: 672
Merit: 416
stead.builders
I personally think fillippone is doing a great thing and helping new members, but many other merit sources are also doing it in their own way, without saying too much about it on the forum.

That's true, since everyone has his own pattern he created to distribute merit, we don't have to expect all the merit on the same pattern, not all of them took time to create a merit thread for members to participate, some uses the procedure of random meriting on threads as they users post, and it is very important to know that it's never a must to merit a post if it's not quality enough to be merited.

I think fillippone should answer your question and suggestion and not other forum members.
Why didn't you ask him first?

I believe fillippone has received enough tags on the mentioned of his name on this thread which i believe he must be somehow busy working out other things and reading all our comments before he can arrive on what to say whenever he's less busy, my thought though.
full member
Activity: 700
Merit: 205
Those kind of merit threads are now flooded with bounty spammers and signature spammers who want to rank up quickly, and the majority of them wind up getting banned for using AI or plagiarism, so it's not really worth it. Those who submitted posts for review and those who were merited without seeking it generally receive more merits than merit hunters over time. I'm curious why the OP is concerned about something he claimed he wasn't interested in.
If you said so that means you are curious in meri and you don't read to understand, I just expressed my feelings and my observation towards a thread created by one of the prominent dignity in the forum, I noticed that many people submit applications of their quality post, and I have to throw my observation to air incase someone can volunteer and support the thread with the intention of fillippone
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 800
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Yes you are right that mate every one of us here in forum have different ways to spend of our sMerits and also we have different standards of giving some merits.
That's the reason why we must be true in our self because there are many merit source out there who likes or appreciate in our post then they will share to us some of their sMerits. And also even normal users here in the forum they will share their sMerits to everyone is us.

No need putting the pressure to people or precisely to one person since they have develop themselves in reaching out to some post that worth meriting, in other way round whenever you apply and got merited then fine but if you applied and didn't get any do not feels as if your post aren't worth meriting but is just because their way of evaluation is of higher standard than the others.
staff
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1610
The Naija & BSFL Sherrif 📛
I don't merit anyone who is begging for merit.
Daddy  I'm not begging for merit I was traumatised concerning distribution of merit and how few person's have a thread because of giving out merit for people,  I know that each of merit sources have allocated place to be merited  but at least we have to show major concerns of newbie, if I should have the opportunity to be merit sources I will do exactly what the three person's I mentioned above did. When you check my profile you can see that this people have not given merit except one person, so I saw their good work from other people profile.

He was not talking about you, but about people who ask other users to merit their own posts.

Those kind of merit threads are now flooded with bounty spammers and signature spammers who want to rank up quickly, and the majority of them wind up getting banned for using AI or plagiarism, so it's not really worth it. Those who submitted posts for review and those who were merited without seeking it generally receive more merits than merit hunters over time. I'm curious why the OP is concerned about something he claimed he wasn't interested in.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
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I don't merit anyone who is begging for merit.
Daddy  I'm not begging for merit I was traumatised concerning distribution of merit and how few person's have a thread because of giving out merit for people,  I know that each of merit sources have allocated place to be merited  but at least we have to show major concerns of newbie, if I should have the opportunity to be merit sources I will do exactly what the three person's I mentioned above did. When you check my profile you can see that this people have not given merit except one person, so I saw their good work from other people profile.

He was not talking about you, but about people who ask other users to merit their own posts.
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