Topic: fillippone merited thread need more support of merit source. - page 2. (Read 878 times)

Daddy  I'm not begging for merit I was traumatised concerning distribution of merit and how few person's have a thread because of giving out merit for people,  I know that each of merit sources have allocated place to be merited  but at least we have to show major concerns of newbie, if I should have the opportunity to be merit sources I will do exactly what the three person's I mentioned above did. When you check my profile you can see that this people have not given merit except one person, so I saw their good work from other people profile.

What i understand in all of these, is that each an every merit source have it own paths to play, inviting other merit source to one particular thread it will attract some attentions, other merit source have were they allocate their merit to, and come to think of it, you will know that merit source does not hoard their merit they also dispense their merit to circulate round.

When I read this merit system is when i understand that this forum is broad and before someone can understand everything have happening here it will take the person long time but the little i have read for this conversation and other conversation relating to merit and merit source, it's just a something i seen that no merit source hoard his merit they distribute their merit properly and mostly the place their instinct permit to them distribute theirs merit.

I'm new but I have read long time about forum and i will continue to read the protocols and conduct of forum and also learn from senior colleagues and also adhere to their advice.

Learning is a continuous process

The OP never said fillippone isn't doing it well or not trying, but from what I got from the message was that, Mr @Fillippone kind of needs help to make it faster that the whole merit things is too much on his side, that some other merit source should at least support him to make the train of meriting members to be faster, that's what I think the OP was trying to say not otherwise.


How can you tell if the OP isn't posting something good to be called a quality post on this forum? I feel everyone is trying on their path to make a quality post and I feel the OP has some quality post if you check probably and he's not making the thread about himself if not I would say Yes I agree with you but this thread is for the whole users on this Forum and about a way that other merit source should assist Mr Fillippone. And growing of account is something you just have to put enough energy to it being consistent on the forum, not about rushing to where you have no idea of going. With time everyone will get to that greater hight concerning ranking up.


I see these set of people Fillippone, Sceptical Chymist, Ratimov and the others as people who are just absolutely brilliant at what they do on this Forum at large and the OP isn't saying they're not trying or those distribution of merits ain't enough but if all should come together on those different threads to assist one another it will be fast and making their job very easy. These guys work their ass out just to make this place a comfortable arena for users to roam around freely. Well, you have your say on all these but I feel the OP meant well. And weldone to those guys who are keeping the Forum to be in good shape day in day out.🙏

I also want fillippone's thread to attract more merit sources because it is indeed helping members to get worthy merits. This is because he reviews the post before awarding merits. There are some boards in the forum that I observed don't get much attention from merit sources and some users might have almost all their posts on such sections. The thread will serve as an avenue to review those posts to check if they are merit worthy. But from what I have gathered merit sources are given the freedom to set standards for their merit distribution. And they can choose any board or style they deem fit.

Members of the forum should learn to be versatile in posting. We shouldn't concentrate on a particular section of the forum only. We should learn from other sections so that there will always be better opportunities for merit sources to read our posts. I will like to see more of such merit-giving threads or support from other merit sources but they should be given the freedom to do this voluntary task.

I personally think fillippone is doing a great thing and helping new members, but many other merit sources are also doing it in their own way, without saying too much about it on the forum.
I think fillippone should answer your question and suggestion and not other forum members.
Why didn't you ask him first?
Other merit sources also help newbies and may not be able to directly help fillippone because they don't have enough merits to help everyone, have you thought about that?
If fillippone thinks he needs more merits, then it's best if he asks directly theymos and not other forum members.
I've had this thread on the Croatian local board for 5 years now https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/zbirni-topic-za-davanje-merita-za-kvalitetne-postove-i-za-korisne-informacije-4265795, where local members can report their quality posts and get merits, and I'm sure that many other merit sources do the same thing.

Yes you are right that mate every one of us here in forum have different ways to spend of our sMerits and also we have different standards of giving some merits.
That's the reason why we must be true in our self because there are many merit source out there who likes or appreciate in our post then they will share to us some of their sMerits. And also even normal users here in the forum they will share their sMerits to everyone is us.

Merits are something that needs to be given to a post that worth gaining it, also come to think of this those who are merits sources may have their own way of evaluating post quality. Letting other merits source to looks into Fillipone thread doesn't mean they will join him to start distributing merits as he does they may also have their own ways, terms and conditions to be given out merits and if they noticed people applying for merits aren't upto their standard they don't have any option of neglecting them.

Maybe if they create their threads the terms and condition would be applied over there, so seeking attention of people to looking into Fillipone thread is not a good idea besides he created that thread to willingly give out merits without any benefits attached to it. The only benefits I found out is that whenever the merits are exhausted probably Theymos would get it filled.

Then also, create out time to check some local board I think their are few of them also giving out merits to post that qualify of receiving merits, however anyone can freely give out merits if they have smerits with them It doesn't really mean only the merits sources are designated to be giving out merits.

Nevertheless, I really commends on those freely giving out merits despite I haven't be merited from them except JayJuanGee and some others but that doesn't mean I won't appreciate their good efforts especially The Sceptical Chymist, Fillipone, Ratimov, bitmover for their efforts to skip their personal work to be reviewing profile and post. I know how it tells on me with my home chores and still coming down here to read comment and post is not an easy task to me.

Thanks for your information but I understand that this time around merit source would have to be selective on how they give out merits when they don't have enough merits to rank up. There are also other merits sources that are also assisting especially for those people that check the thread for people with good content for meriting. I know that many of the merit sources have there own thread where people that do not have merits can apply especially people that need to rank up as soon as possible. They know how many merits that is being  allocated and so they know how to use the merit for those that write good contents.

This is literally the same as begging where you ask other merit sources to help distribute more merits. Each of us have different criteria on how they send their merits. What fillippone is doing is his own way to distribute merits. Other merit sources did send merits to those who deserve it. Other merit sources didn't create a thread like the one fillippone made to reward merits. In other words, it's up tk them on how they send the merits.

These are good points, I am so particular about this topic and the reply given since they reveal those who could be worth celebrating as merit sources. What I could simply conclude is that among many merit sources created by Theymos, only a few of them deserves it, it's all obvious, and maybe he can make some adjustments soon. This is evident with the way they dispense their allocations and how dedicated to reading uniquely or randomly

To me, merit is so important to rank up in this forum, no good posters should find it hard to get, but it's often saddening when the posters that are so worth it is being denied due to low levels of review by those saddled with the responsibility. While some only have their preferences to merit and neglect other good posters deliberately.

Bookmark these ones  

• Merit sources
• Merit source observations
• [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits

Stats are not change since July 2022 but we don't know any minor changes inside like cutting source merit from some merit sources and increasing source merit for other sources, or removing some sources and appointing some new sources. Totally, at tip of iceberg, we don't see any change.

Actually we don't know yet if how many are still active here in out forum as a merit source like in my local our merit source decided to not active his account and we can't blame them because what ( The skeptical chymist ) said above that being a merit source is unpaid which is they contributed here in forum for free. We the normal user here in forum if we want to be have or we want to reach some achievements then we must work hard and not beg more for that.

It is easy. If you use the forum for the first time, you will take some time to learn the basics. If there is a newbie account and follow this pattern^[1], then definitely it is an alternative account.

Overall, what I was trying to point out is that there have been a lot of account farms and they may follow this pattern^[1], fast checking merit history will help you to avoid supporting them especially accounts that ask for merits.

I'm not good at finding alt accounts, but if we take these three topics as an example, we will definitely get a list of possible account farms.

 - active posting here ---> Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
 - active posting here ---> Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1
 - Congratulatory topics like ---> @LFC_Bitcoin 20000 posts or Interviews with Bitcointalk members

With a quick look at the merit history, if there is an account that meets these conditions, it is best to wait before sending merits.


If you ask me why I chose these topics, because there are a lot of merits being distributed regardless of the quality of the post.

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You beg it or beg it on behalf of others.

It is exactly begging for merits from merit sources. theymos wrote it in the Merit & new rank requirements. theymos did not publish the list of merit sources because he does not want merit sources to be bothered with merit beggars.

That thread is created by Fillippone voluntarily to help forum member to rank up so other merit source has no business to help meriting users on that post since that Filippone special thread. There’s a lot of merit source doing that same thing. I think @theymos is the one that needs to be addressed since he is the source of all merit which Fillippone needed on his service.

Read carefully his rules. All the request is subjected to his personal terms and rules so it's up to him if he needs help or not because he is the one providing this free service for you. If he is not complaining and asking for help then what's the sense for asking this publicly for his sake?

Believe in him!

I feel the supply of merit is just at the best level we could ever dream of having -- or maybe a bit too unprecedented... Just maybe cus I can remember seeing severally clips and scraps from old BTT inventorys' - the supply was in amplitude following the induction...but as I said, maybe that was on a different level.
Now, seeing this, I quickly felt you're tryna stress the fact that the circulation isn't enough for the community which, is an issue that's been over-emphasized already. In general, merit sources who would wanna imbibe the system would... You don't have to inform them on what to do.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

OP, I was wondering with deep thoughts why this thread and from what I can see is that there is no factual basis on which this proposals of yours stands on. I can attest that all merits source are very much active and doing their best to reward those who merit it but OP, if you feel to, you can see the procedure in becoming one is clearly spelt out by the administrator of this platform. So you can do that yourself and stop the complaints. I believe when you get there you too would face same and know what it takes to go through the boards, reading and meriting post that deserves it. Anything outside this is a waste of time OP.

Oh no - they just do it on their own terms. Merit sources are the same as you - they have habits, have advantages, have disadvantages - so they should not be forced for anything including spending their all sMerit every month. Merit source is free work - they spend a lot of time getting lots of quality posts, but sometimes they also feel lazy for their own personal reasons.

Onyeeze, don't worry - if their post really deserved an merit then they wouldn't have to post an application every 14 days in the @filippone thread. Some users just apply and take advantage of @filippone's kindness very often, but without realizing it some of them are alt who also take advantage of the same thread.

As you know, everyone has a different understanding of what a quality post is, and the same thing applies to merit sources. They merit posts that they feel qualified and worth meriting, and because they are trusted due to the quality contributions they have made to the forum, any post they merit will be considered a quality post. Therefore, if they feel like not giving out merit the way some merit sources do, it is their own opinion.

If merit sources like Fillippone, The Sceptical Chymist, Ratimov, and DdmrDdmr decide to give out enough merits publicly to support users to rank up, that doesn’t mean all merit sources should do the same because they all have choices on how to share their allocated merits.

Hmm, anyway fillippone is doing a charity job on the forum despite his position he's trying to help those who need merits to rank up so is not a must thing that merit source should also merit users who has dropped their posts to be merited because on the first quote fillippone made, he didn't ask any merit source to assist him but if any merit source wants to help I think he can however fillippone has been given some merits for good work on the forum.