Topic: [Flag] Organized Ethnic Hatred against the Turkish Section, ~Timelord2067 - page 4. (Read 2247 times)

No, I'm sure it was definitely not his dream.  As to the hostility, it's the result of cultural clashes which have been around since time out of mind.  I've got nothing against Turkey or the Turkish section, btw.  But there's been a lot of drama there for quite a while, and I think it's a very cloistered section.  Whenever that happens, there's always going to be conflict.

But it is censorship.  Racial supremacy (whatever the race) is an idea, and if someone can't express that idea because someone is prohibiting people from speaking about it....well, what would you call that if not censorship?  LoyceV is correct.  If free speech is to be protected, it's generally the offensive ideas that need the defense, not inoffensive speech that most people agree with.  HBW would agree with me, the devil rest her soul.

What penalties exactly? If someone breaks forum rules - report them to moderators. Other than that you can choose to either ignore it or to escalate the drama.

I don't think banning racism is censorship Loyce, it's just promoting the survival and well being of the human species .

Similar to banning people for death threats and inflicting violence, racist behavior should also be taken very seriously, as it attempts to dehumanize and completely disqualify certain segments of the human population (and here certain parts of the forum) from a dignified
and joyous life, I would consider that a very serious crime against humanity.

People are obliged to prove their claim. Are we gonna come here every day and answer someone's crap? Or will those who make false accusations be given heavy penalties?

I think we'll have to agree to disagree here. You can't be selective about which freedom of speech you accept, and which not. That's not freedom, it's censorship.

@Hey there Delilah

I've read your writings before. You think you're Scherlock Holmes. Those people admitted that they were relatives of Kalemder and Al-Jazari. But because of your endless enmity, hatred and enmity you and others like you, people got cold from the forum.

ok if racism, thought to be one of the greatest evils on the planet and strongly forbidden by all civilized nations, their constitutions and laws, is permitted here for the sake of the total boundless freedom of creative thought, I'm fine with that.

Having said that, you publicly defending and promoting this in this case, LoyceV, condones a very dangerous premise for the integrity of this forum, and contrary to your initial gut feeling, it does follow that people dealing with Timelord2067 are at risk of great monetary loss, and the flag is very appropriate because I'm sure a knowledgeable individual like you can find ample correlation in history between prejudice / persecution and financial crimes.

People prone to irrational hateful behavior will not hesitate to exhibit that blind prejudice in monetary matters as well, so a smart community should be vigilant against dealing with these vacant NPC's like Timelord2067...

Since I'm dragged into this, I'll respond.

I did see Timelord2067's thread already, and my initial suspicion of (Google) translation errors was confirmed by ekiller. I left it at that, as I don't have the time (nor desire) to check out all details in that thread before I can decide to Support or Oppose the Flags.

However, your Flag is clearly incorrect. I see no reason in this topic why this would be true:

Thanks @Vispilio
Why are people hostile to each other? Is that Satoshi's dream? Lie, slander, hate, instinct to destroy ...
If we've done something wrong, we want fair defense. Those who will judge us should at least allow us to make our defense. You can't slander people whose language you don't know and call them "justice."
I want justice I want justice

You've seen "12 angry men." You can also execute us (the green mile), free and leave free (The Shawshank Redemption). You will determine the end of this film.

The incessant and repetitive prejudice, insults & lies thrown indiscriminately against all the Turkish high ranking members have become so tedious and outrageous that finally I have to open a thread and flag about it.

The Turkish section proposes user ~Timelord2067 to be excluded from all trust lists, so his constant immoral and malevolent activities cannot harm an entire local section of the forum as well its overall integrity.

Flag against Timelord2067 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=702
(Update: flag is now withdrawn purely based on the procedural objections raised by many valuable members through this thread & elsewhere).


First of all a brief prelude:


A mere glance at the trust list history of any high ranking Turkish member will instantly demonstrate to you the existence of these mysterious distrusters... With some of them we have conducted an amicable and intellectual dialogue and resolved all misunderstandings,
so in particular I personally thank @owlcatz, @klaaas and @lauda for their commendable and empathetic moral behavior.


For the last 10 days or so, however, user Timelord2067, has dedicated what I believe the entirety of his leisure time to what he calls "collecting evidence" against the Turkish section.

His ludicrously deranged methods include stalking every high ranking Turkish member on a daily basis, going through their entire merit history, post history, thread history, even message edit history and countless other minor details, and after spending an endless amount of hours doing these, coming up with many many long posts containing the crudest lies, misinterpretations and false translations of these archives to always arrive at the same boring vacant conclusion:

that everything ever done by the Turkish members is an "evidence" to a conspiracy or fraud or scam attempt or an otherwise criminal activity...

What's even more surprising to me is that the undeniably hateful and racist activities by this obvious childish troll astonishingly find considerable support from some members that we previously thought to be level-headed and intellectual core forum participants; therefore leading me to very unwillingly commit the time and energy to open a flag on this matter rather than simply ignoring the few deeply disturbed trolls of the forum...


I've made a special appeal to theymos and all honorable DT1 members to decisively address the issue on a recent response:



And I hereby inform the respectable BTT community that I am opening a flag against ~Timelord2067 and will continue to tag users who like to persecute people based on their nationality or anthropological backgrounds...


EDIT based on some feedback regarding flags: If historical events are any guide, I'm reasonably convinced that there is a great correlation between exhibiting irrational hate & persecution towards certain groups and committing financial crimes against them, so I believe the flag against this deeply unstable stalker called Timelord2067 is appropriate from a financial perspective as well.