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November 16, 2018, 12:42:52 PM
^^^ There's no vanishing point on a globe, the horizon is curvature. In reality the horizon is the result of convergence to a point on a plane. The sextant measures angular size from the vanishing point, this is impossible on a globe. We're not on a globe the Earth is flat, it's measurably flat.

''There's no vanishing point on a globe'' Why not?

''The sextant measures angular size from the vanishing point'' Who told you this? https://www.wikihow.com/Use-a-Sextant


There's no vanishing point on a globe because it's hidden behind curvature. Who told me how to measure angular size? Well certainly not the Jews at wikipedia, those wikihow instructions are just the basics and don't cover angular size. Measuring angular size is covered up, it's a conspiracy and there's no readily available source that will discuss measurement because it's impossible to measure on a globe. I've explained how angular size measurement works, you should kill yourself instead of insisting it's impossible.



Do you know what the vanishing point is? Can you define it for me please since I can't trust the jews at wikipedia? What I understand the vanishing point is not something physical. It's not a real point in space, 2 parallel lines never touch, just like in your example, the rails never touch, do they? So how are you measuring anything from the ''vanishing point'' if the vanishing point doesn't exist?
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November 16, 2018, 12:40:55 PM
You seem to be misunderstanding.  The claim was made we are on a sphere.  It's up to the "round earther", as you call them,  to prove that claim in a way which does not violate physics.  

I should not have to "believe" anything if we are talking the scientific method.  The claims should be repeatable, demonstrable and measurable.  

I cannot bend water, make it conform to the exterior of a shape or have a vacuum next to a pressurized system not equalize.  I cannot replicate any of these through experimentation.

Assuming the earth is round, there are currently no laws of physics that are broken. There hasn't really been any "broken" physics since the early 1800s. There have been improvements, but a lot of it, we've had figured out for a few thousand years. We are just getting more accurate with more precise measuring instruments and expanding theories. There are are currently small correction factors from theoretical fields and particles that may or may not exist, but there is no question that physics as it exists now works as we expect it to 100% of the time.

I'm not sure what you mean by, you cannot bend water? And you are correct, you cannot have a system with 101300 Pa of pressure right next to a system with 0 Pa of pressure. Think of what happens when a hatch opens up on a pressurized cabin of an airplane up in the sky where the pressure is lower. You can however have 101300 and 101299 Pa next to one another, and 101298 next to that 101299, and so on and so forth until you get reallllly high up in the sky where you have 1 Pa next to 2 Pa and eventually 0 Pa.
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November 16, 2018, 12:39:17 PM
If you want me to believe that the bodies of water curve, form to the exterior of a shape and do not flow due to the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass (gravity) then I would like to see a demonstration of some sort to prove this.  If you want invoke the claim of gravity and for me to "believe" this over my practical experience then it must be demonstrated.  

Idiot #2 - I am curious at how you explain water bending everyday...  :/



I said bodies of water find their level.  What do you think happens when the water from the waterfall reaches the pool below?  Yup it finds it's level.  Show me a picture of the pool below the falls with a hump in the middle from the water supporting itself and then your onto something.  

This is called a false equivalence.  Your waterfall example vs the ocean is apples to oranges.
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November 16, 2018, 12:37:24 PM
^^^ There's no vanishing point on a globe, the horizon is curvature. In reality the horizon is the result of convergence to a point on a plane. The sextant measures angular size from the vanishing point, this is impossible on a globe. We're not on a globe the Earth is flat, it's measurably flat.

''There's no vanishing point on a globe'' Why not?

''The sextant measures angular size from the vanishing point'' Who told you this? https://www.wikihow.com/Use-a-Sextant


There's no vanishing point on a globe because it's hidden behind curvature. Who told me how to measure angular size? Well certainly not the Jews at wikipedia, those wikihow instructions are just the basics and don't cover angular size. Measuring angular size is covered up, it's a conspiracy (Jews control all information with few exceptions) and there's no readily available source that will discuss measurement because it's impossible to measure on a globe. I've explained how angular size measurement works, you should kill yourself instead of insisting it's impossible.

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November 16, 2018, 11:45:06 AM
When your fat ass jumps in you best believe your making a splash.

Best believe my what?     Huh

LOL
I bitched at him a few posts back about learning the difference between “your” and “you’re”.
Apparently to no avail....It’s true, you can’t fix stupid.
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November 16, 2018, 11:43:10 AM
^^^ There's no vanishing point on a globe, the horizon is curvature. In reality the horizon is the result of convergence to a point on a plane. The sextant measures angular size from the vanishing point, this is impossible on a globe. We're not on a globe the Earth is flat, it's measurably flat.

''There's no vanishing point on a globe'' Why not?

''The sextant measures angular size from the vanishing point'' Who told you this? https://www.wikihow.com/Use-a-Sextant
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November 16, 2018, 10:27:39 AM
^^^ There's no vanishing point on a globe, the horizon is curvature. In reality the horizon is the result of convergence to a point on a plane. The sextant measures angular size from the vanishing point, this is impossible on a globe. We're not on a globe the Earth is flat, it's measurably flat.
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November 16, 2018, 09:24:46 AM
Nice, now that we've established that I'm stupid and crazy because I can measure angular size with a sextant. We've got additional proof that I'm a paid liar, an idiot and insane with the law gravity, this unproven theory is clearly the proof beyond any resonance doubt I'm mad. You go Vod, show 'em that gravitationally curved water!

You guys seriously need rope.








Meanwhile at the airport....

Four Commercial Airline Pilots Admit The Earth is Flat -- https://youtu.be/18QtOZapc38

As previously mentioned what does measuring angular size with a sextant prove exactly? It doesn't prove anything, don't see your point here.
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November 16, 2018, 09:24:34 AM
You may want to head next door to the religion discussion if you want to talk about beliefs.  I don't give a fuck what you believe in.  I give a fuck about what you can practically demonstrate.  

If you cannot practically demonstrate what you're claiming to me then your simply talking your religion.

What kind of practical demonstration do you need for gravity? Have you tried stepping off a roof of a tall building? That usually settles the issue.

Can you prove to me that me falling off the building was a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass and not something else?  

You don't need to go that far. You don't even need to call it "gravity" if you have some religious objection to the word. Are you at least willing to admit that there is a force that makes things move towards Earth? Let's call it "Joe falling off a tall building experiment force", or j-force for short. Now if hypothetically speaking the Earth was ball-shaped, or penis-shaped, or whatever - what would the j-force do to large bodies of water?
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November 16, 2018, 05:52:23 AM
Nice, now that we've established that I'm stupid and crazy because I can measure angular size with a sextant. We've got additional proof that I'm a paid liar, an idiot and insane with the law gravity, this unproven theory is clearly the proof beyond any resonance doubt I'm mad. You go Vod, show 'em that gravitationally curved water!

You guys seriously need rope.








Meanwhile at the airport....

Four Commercial Airline Pilots Admit The Earth is Flat -- https://youtu.be/18QtOZapc38
Vod
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November 16, 2018, 04:55:47 AM
idiot #2 - if you want to claim water will only curve temporarily, you'll need a big heater to thaw this water frozen in a curve..  ::

Vod
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November 16, 2018, 04:53:07 AM
If you want me to believe that the bodies of water curve, form to the exterior of a shape and do not flow due to the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass (gravity) then I would like to see a demonstration of some sort to prove this.  If you want invoke the claim of gravity and for me to "believe" this over my practical experience then it must be demonstrated.  

Idiot #2 - I am curious at how you explain water bending everyday...  :/

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November 16, 2018, 04:33:15 AM
If gravity is a belief system for you I accept that and have no issues.  If you have experienced this curvature of spacetime for yourself through experimentation then I would be grateful for your experimentation methods so I can try on my own.  

Gravity isn't a belief system. It's a law of physics under which many marvels of technology operate. Nobody needs to prove anything to you. You need to prove the earth is flat to us. Continually sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "no no no no" isn't an argument, or a belief system. Refusing to even attempt to understand the nature of reality isn't a belief system either. Its just trolling.
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November 16, 2018, 02:07:33 AM
When your fat ass jumps in you best believe your making a splash.

Best believe my what?     Huh
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November 16, 2018, 02:04:46 AM
I think I have a good understanding of how water behaves.  Bodies of water find their level.  Bodies of water need to be contained or they will flow.  Bodies of water do not conform to the exterior of a shape.  These are the experiences I encounter when experimenting with bodies of water.

Idiot #2 tells me I will not make a splash when I jump into water! 

 Cool

When your fat ass jumps in you best believe your making a splash.  Flat, round or 4d. 
Vod
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November 16, 2018, 02:00:34 AM
I think I have a good understanding of how water behaves.  Bodies of water find their level.  Bodies of water need to be contained or they will flow.  Bodies of water do not conform to the exterior of a shape.  These are the experiences I encounter when experimenting with bodies of water.

Idiot #2 tells me I will not make a splash when I jump into water! 

 Cool
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November 16, 2018, 01:57:08 AM
Can you prove to me that me falling off the building was a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass and not something else?  

Idiot #2 is back!

#1 - notaman - does not believe in proof - it's all a conspiracy
#2 - joerogers8 - does not believe in history - must verify everything for himself
#3 - baddicker - does not believe in change - 2,000 year old information must be true

 Cool

I will not appeal to history, authority or consensus to answer scientific questions.

Holy shit Vod.  I agree with you on #2!  It's a fucking miracle. 

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November 16, 2018, 01:53:58 AM
You may want to head next door to the religion discussion if you want to talk about beliefs.  I don't give a fuck what you believe in.  I give a fuck about what you can practically demonstrate.  

If you cannot practically demonstrate what you're claiming to me then your simply talking your religion.

Wow, this is fascinating. You keep sidestepping a very important key to understanding the nature of how water behaves.

Do you accept that the law of gravity is such, or not? It's pretty important to understanding how water sits on a globe and doesn't fly off into space.

I think I have a good understanding of how water behaves.  Bodies of water find their level.  Bodies of water need to be contained or they will flow.  Bodies of water do not conform to the exterior of a shape.  These are the experiences I encounter when experimenting with bodies of water.

If you can show me and practically demonstrate these are not true then by all means demonstrate it.  

If you want me to believe that the bodies of water curve, form to the exterior of a shape and do not flow due to the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass (gravity) then I would like to see a demonstration of some sort to prove this.  If you want invoke the claim of gravity and for me to "believe" this over my practical experience then it must be demonstrated.  

If gravity is a belief system for you I accept that and have no issues.  If you have experienced this curvature of spacetime for yourself through experimentation then I would be grateful for your experimentation methods so I can try on my own.  
Vod
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November 16, 2018, 01:49:04 AM
Can you prove to me that me falling off the building was a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass and not something else?  

Idiot #2 is back!

#1 - notaman - does not believe in proof - it's all a conspiracy
#2 - joerogers8 - does not believe in history - must verify everything for himself
#3 - baddicker - does not believe in change - 2,000 year old information must be true

 Cool
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November 16, 2018, 01:42:04 AM
You may want to head next door to the religion discussion if you want to talk about beliefs.  I don't give a fuck what you believe in.  I give a fuck about what you can practically demonstrate.  

If you cannot practically demonstrate what you're claiming to me then your simply talking your religion.

What kind of practical demonstration do you need for gravity? Have you tried stepping off a roof of a tall building? That usually settles the issue.

Can you prove to me that me falling off the building was a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass and not something else?  
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