Topic: Flat Earth - page 177. (Read 1095196 times)

             


 

Fact: If the sun were 32 miles in diameter, we wouldn't even be able to see it, 93 millions miles away.

Fact:  You can't use a sextant to measure the distance to a celestial object.

I told you this already, why are you still repeating your lie?


I remember when I was younger, I would stumble home from the bar and turn the corner at 90 degrees, and my house was about 500 meters away. 

Only when I sobered up did I realize angles have nothing to do with distance.


 

^^^

The sun:
The sun:
Let's Measure the Diameter of the Sun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGZTG5eZ950

Hey, buddy, you're misreading, misinterpreting and misrepresenting a few things.




EDIT: What! These references are off by a millimeter?

Fact: The Sun's angular size is 32 arcminutes.

Source:




Fact: One arcminute is equal to one nautical mile.

Source:




Fact: The Sun is 32 miles in diameter.
Source: Google & Wikipedia



Fact: The Sun is 32 miles in diameter.
Source: Direct measurement with a sextant.

Conversation with batty at a Halloween party....
Me.....”Hey now, nice costume dude...I like the funny hat and turkey bone”

Batty... “The earth is flat, the sun is 32 miles wide and 3000 miles away. I read somewhere
           that’s what a sextant says. And the moon landings were a hoax and all those scientists
           are lying. It’s a NASA conspiracy. They faked it . They don’t want you knowing the earth
            is a pancake.”

Me.....”Um...oookay ahhhh.....Oh, I get it now! You’re dressed up as a nutter who just escaped from the
          funny farm , right?...Ha ha ha! You’re a funny guy ..I get it....ha ha ha.....”

Batty...”Go rope yourself.”

^^^ Continually accusing the target of doing what you're doing while you're doing it is a big part of this horrible conspiracy. The Sun's diameter is 32', see you in hell.  



Vod: "I'm reading 93,000,021.18 mm, that coin is huge!"

I've never met you, and I guarantee you wouldn't lie to my face. 

I don't think you asking me to kill myself is wrong.  I understand how frustrating it is having your BS exposed.  I don't respect liars, so your threats mean nothing to me.

You play with your little sextant - you don't even know how it works.

 

If you're lying to my face or even unknowing pushing false information as part of a horrible conspiracy, then how is telling you to go kill yourself unreasonable? As for the hard proof, I don't even to do a triangulation song & dance to calculate the distance, the sextant directly measures the Sun's diameter at 32' (nautical miles). Fuck you.

I see what you did there ^ ... lol.

Kind of like two of every animal going into a small boat for a few weeks while an old man flooded the earth.

 

Come on! about the sun size. If the sun were a 32 mile mirror, the lasers that would produce enough heat to heat the earth, by reflecting light off the sun, would have to be so immense that they couldn't be hidden. And the whole sun would have to be made of something like tungsten titanium diamond to be strong enough to withstand the heat without crashing. And the wires or rods that holds the sun up there would have to be so extremely strong that their tensile strength would be beyond anything that we can imagine.

I understand that anything is possible. But your stuff is way closer to fantasy magic than science or reality.  The point is that if you want to use the sun ideas to make or break the FE idea, you have a long way to go, with the kind of thinking you use.

Not only do you troll, lie and name call, but you also continue to encourage people to commit suicide.

It's odd that no one else sees what you see.  Do you need glasses?


Played around with you for a few days, but you should educate yourself - the sextant can be used for measuring the angle between a celestial object and the horizon.

It cannot be used for measuring the distance to an celestial object.   If you think it can - show the world!

 

The last few pages of discussion have focused primarily on the distance to the Sun. This is a make or break issue and the two sides of the argument can be broken down as follows.


Flat Earth:

   1. A sextant empirically measures the Sun's diameter at 32' (nautical miles) with a triangulated distance of about 3,000 miles.

   2. People that openly deny an empirically measured value should rope themselves.


Globe Earth:

   1. Using a powerful telescope in an attempt to observe a theorized stellar parallax, a measurement so small that it's dwarfed by distortions caused by atmospheric turbulence (star twinkle) thus making conclusive observations impossible, the globalist claims he's able to triangulate the distance to the Sun at exactly 93,000,000 miles.

   2. NASA (a globalist organization) claims to use a Venusian radar system to measure it's exact distance to Earth then triangulate the distance to the Sun at 93,000,000 miles.

   3. The globalist makes the unsubstantiated and refutable claim is made that the Sun is always viewed the same size. This claim is refuted by images and photographs that show atmospheric magnification is occurring as a function of distance and that, under the right weather conditions, at higher altitudes the Sun is shown to change size drastically by shrinking to a point as it sets.

   4. Concern trolling and name calling.

Right. But our wish is for his betterment, isn't it? I mean, when he says that some sort of effect/illusion always renders every measurement or observation useless, why does he think that a sextant is more accurate? He really needs to get right down on the ground with a ruler so he can be sure that he's getting it right, right?

The point isn't to demean him. After all, look at everything he is trying to fight, especially in his own mind, right? First he has to fight all the proven science and observations. Then he has to fight all the people who know how to explain and use those observations. Then he has to figure out how to accept a bunch of FE observations by focusing on things that look like they are accurate. Then he has to fight himself, and his natural yearning to accept things that he knows go against common sense and standard science. Then he has to develop FE science to a point that fits reality, while not letting it slide into the realm of fantasy.

I mean, isn't a fighter like this some kind of a great guy? Who can hold his mind in place against all kinds of understanding like this? If he were a religious fighter, he would be among those who have the strongest of faith. No. I absolutely admire him.

Of course, it must be just as mentally draining for the interns at his funny farm. But, what the heck? He is still sane enough to get on the Internet and reply, right?

Bravo, nutbatman.

His arguments are literally: ''some sort of effect/illusion'' always renders every measurement, observation useless. There is always some weird effect that always makes it look like the earth is a sphere.

So true - but it's fun to explain elementary school knowledge to them and watch them get all upset.

Notaman wants me dead sooooo bad because I keep exposing his lies.

 

If you understood simple photography, a wide-angle lens can create that kind of curvature. However, proving any information to a flat-earther is nearly impossible if not impossible. If you send one on a rocket into space and tell them to look out the window, they will say the windows are screened/faked with a display. If you put in a spacesuit into space, the glass on the spacesuit or they have been drugged.


Fish Eye Lens:

There is no joking in physics.  What I measure today can be measured by anybody else anywhere else and at any other time.

The facts do not change.

The sun is 93,000,000 miles away - if it were any closer or further we would not be in the habitable zone.

Despite all your babbling, you cannot produce any evidence other then "derp - magic!" to hint everyone on the planet is wrong, and you are right.

 

All of your claims about stars being billions of miles away rest on that "Perhaps a tiny fraction of a degree" measurement, the distortions are greater than the measurement your parallax claims are based on. Then in the same post you claim the sextant is inaccurate while your margin of error is give or take 93 million miles? The angular size of objects doesn't lie and claims that objects seen with the naked eye are hundreds of thousands, millions and billions miles away are absurd. Both the Sun and Moon are measured at 32' (59 kilometers across) this makes your billion miles away claims a fucking joke, a big one; go rope yourself.