Topic: Flat Earth - page 205. (Read 1095196 times)

Astargath

So you believe you have actually seen the ship disappear behind the curve while standing at sea level and it had nothing to do with perspective?  Please let us know.  

The question about the Moon being evenly lit, why can't it be answered without engaging in pipul? The question about whether objects in the distance are obscured by curvature, why can't that be answered without engaging in pipul? For gods sake man BADecker is doing an Irish jig trying to explain perspective, I've never seen such mental gymnastics in my life before!

/sss he's running a scam, he's taking your money without giving you the opportunity to win the game. It's all about fuck you slave! You believe nothing but bullshit you absolute chump!

Wow that picture... amazing and explains all.

There are literally hundreds of videos of ships disappearing bottom first, people knew this hundreds of years ago, are you stupid?

Okay, so I'm reading The Book of Enoch linked a few posts up and it says there was powered flight.


"Nor shall they have it in their power to secure themselves, and to fly." -- Enoch 51:7



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I'm in agreement with The Council of Nicea, this book doesn't belong in the Bible and IMO is not the word of God. I believe it was written by some deluded astronomer who thought he could imitate the Bible. His description/analysis of the Moon is not only flawed based on my understanding of it but, it's contradictory to the Book of Genesis.

Actually intended to be less online but have to squeeze in on post quickly.

Today is a bit like the Elephant in the porcelain shop.

Gravity, acceleration of 35.316km/h proves the Möbius strips thickness beyond doubt.
9.81m/s/s  (35.316km/h 21.944mph) 35.316 * 24 = 847,584km (526.66miles) continues move forward. As Möbius is one strip with to equal squares halve the distance is the thickness.

So proper dimension of Earth is 40k km (2 times 20k km) x 20k km x 423.791 km thick.





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Another illusion is with the Sun and Stars. In reality the Earth is motionless and the Sun and Stars orbit above us as separate objects with separate frequencies, 24 hours for the Sun and 23 hours, 56 minutes for the Stars.

The trick here is that the globe model has to combine the two frequencies into a single frequency, the single globe has to make both observed motions at the same time. So in the globe model it's making both a 360 degree rotation and a ~359 degree rotation at the same time.

It's a global marathon, one athlete running two separate races with different track lengths at the same time, running at the same speed in both races and, passing the finish lines at the same time.

Great picture.  It really sums up their game (or lack thereof).

The best part is anyone with basic reading comprehension skills will see through it and hopefully research the subject further. 

They purposely conflate physical size and position with apparent size and position including viewer height to claim obstruction due to curvature, obstruction due to a narrow band mirage with obstruction due to curvature, clipping from atmospheric magnification with with obstruction due to curvature, atmospheric compression as curvature and, atmospheric refraction with lack of observed curvature. The science of illusion.

Nice one.  Thanks!

Well, if you can't change your position in the sand, you can use your cellphone to contact port authorities to send out a helicopter to find out what happened to the ship, right. Of course, if you don't have a phone, you could holler to your friend to phone port authorities for you, but he'll just laugh at you.

Get your feet unglued from the sand and take a speedboat out there to find out what happened to the ship, yourself. It might have sunk, you know, right? I mean, ships do sink now and again, right?

 

Of course the horizon changes depending on your elevations.  

Let me rephrase to help you out.

Your head is locked at 6 feet above sea level.  Your head cannot change elevations.  It is stuck at 6 feet above sea level.  I will repeat.  Your head is stuck at 6 feet above sea level.  It cannot go to 5 or 7 feet above sea level.  It is stuck at 6 feet above sea level.  Remember your head is at 6 feet above sea level.

Ok so your head is 6 feet above sea level.  It cannot change.  The ship begins to disappear bottom first.  Remember your head is stuck at 6 feet above sea level.  It cannot change.  You can no longer see the ship.  Your head is still 6 feet above sea level.  You did not lay down or go onto of a 100 foot tower.  Your head is stuck in position at 6 feet above sea level.  

What happened to the ship?  Why can you no longer see it?  

Remember your head is fixed at 6 feet above sea level.  It never changed during this entire time.

6 feet.
Sea level.
Ship bye bye.
Why?
6 feet.

Going over the horizon is not termed behind the water curve. If you mean going over the horizon, say what you mean. As far as perspective goes, what do you consider something that is out of sight? Is it out of your perspective? Your language and terminology is different than people generally use.

So, what about my post you quoted? Do you think that the distance of the horizon varies with how high you are above the water? Or not?

10-4 on Badecker.  I feel it's important to press them on simple questions and let them avoid, ridicule and make ridiculous posts to further prove my point.  There are a huge amount of views happening on this page (not as many comments due to fear of negative trust retaliation) and I'm sure most can see what's happening here.  To me it really helps the cause and lets people see the sophistry and denial of the globe earthers.  The more they avoid and lie about clearly evident facts (perspective) the more people we will wake.  Its a blessing these guys are fighting rabidly about easily provable facts when they are clearly wrong.  These 3 or 4 globers are setting their own team back horribly bad.  It's wonderful to be a part of this conversation and hopefully get some people to seriously look into this when they see the obvious lies coming from the other side. 

Watched the video.  Very interesting.  

I'm not sold on the Bible at this point.  I will have to read the book of Enoch.  I actually started reading the Bible after I was introduced to flat earth.  Got through the first 5 books and I stopped.  It seems off to me.  For instance why is god having these people build elaborate buildings for worship while they are out in the middle of the wilderness?  God also seemed to have a bit of a temper.  Not what I was expecting.  I may not be getting it and I need to read the rest to give it a fair shot but so far I enjoyed the beginning part of Genesis and started getting turned off after learning about the exact specifications god demanded  for the tabernacle and the wiping out of just about everyone.  It disturbed me more than made me feel like I had a protector.  I walked away feeling it was a book made for the Children of Isreal and not so much for me.  

Just my impression and should hold no value to you if you are a believer.  

Wow that was an amazing avoidance of a simple question. 

I'll ask again just to show everyone you will not answer this question. 

Your at sea level on the beach.  No 100 foot towers.  Your head is in a vice and cannot change altitude.  It is 6 feet above sea level.  The boat disappears bottom first and eventually goes out of sight.  Did it go behind the water curve or out of your perspective? 

Cannot wait to see your response.

The Council of Nicea back in 325 A.D., left the Book of Enoch out of the Bible because they found that it could not be proven genuine, right along with a bunch of other books.

I can't tell if you are being silly, are attempting to be deceptive, or are just plain ignorant.

The answer to your yes/no question, "Does the ship really go behind the giant water curve 3 miles out?," as it stands, is not a simple yes/no. Here's why not. And it is easy.

The horizon is different distances away, depending on how high off the ground you are at the same spot on the beach.

If you are a 6-foot tall person standing on the beach, the horizon will be at a certain point.

If you are standing on the top of a 100-foot tall tower, exactly and directly above the point where you were standing on the beach, the horizon will be further away.

If you let the girls bury you in the beach sand, so your head sticks out of the sand, exactly between the spot where your feet were planted when you were standing on the beach, the horizon is much closer.

You don't have enough info in your question to make it possible to give a yes or a no. And you know this. You are simply being deceptive, or you are playing around. However, if you don't know this, you really need a room next to notbatman.

You should know that badecker is a jesuit sellout.

Check this brilliant short documentary for a basic facts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbyJDou4qQ

It's a simple question so we can establish something between the 2 sides.  We need a starting point.  I really want to walk through this step by step.  You have been here 3 years so I would think you are game.  The quest is the truth.  Not winning an argument.

Does the ship really go behind the giant water curve 3 miles out?

Do you believe you actually witness the ship go behind a giant water curve off the coast (3 miles out)?  Or do you believe it is perspective which makes it disappear?  How can you bring the ship back into sight with binoculars if it went behind the water curve?
NASA employees, Bill Nye have both said we know the earth is curved because we can see the ship disappear behind the curve.  I call this clear bullshit.  If you believe that the ship really does go behind the curve 3 miles out there really is nothing left to talk about as I would consider you intellectually dishonest.

The other proof that is the 2nd most brought up is the shadows of 2 distant buildings (Eratosthenes).  Once we agree that we don't see ships disappear behind water curves at close distances when they don't disappear from left to right we can go on from there.  The question I will pose to you regarding this is why does the sextant tell us the sun is near (3k miles)?  What is your proof the sun is 93 million miles away.  Why have all through history the suns distance move further and further away according to the top scientists of the time.  The questions pertaining to the suns distance are important because a close sun will give the same results as Eratosthenes witnesses on a flat plane.

I'm not arguing the earth is flat as much as I'm saying it's not a sphere as I was told in school.  We need free and independent exploration rights (Antarctic) to solve this for sure.  For now we will have to use what we have to go on.  But what we go on must be provable, measurable and repeatable or else we are all pissing in the wind.