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December 03, 2017, 10:57:45 AM
Travel 4000 years ago and ask the cientists of that time. They already knew the truth.
The Earth is motionless and the Michelson & Morley experiment proves this. This is corroborated by Airy's Failure experiment that also failed to detect any motion.

Airy's Failure suggests nothing of the sort. In fact "Airy's Failure" had a hand in the formulation of Einstein's own theories. Neither does the Michelson and Morley experiment.
What it directly proves is that if you split a beam of light into two and make the halves go on round-trip journeys along two equal-length arms at right angles, the difference in the times taken between the arms (nominally zero) does not change if you swap the positions of the two arms by rotating the apparatus.

The reason that's odd is that the earth is orbiting the sun at 30 km/s, and the sun is orbiting the center of the galaxy at 220 km/s, so the earth is presumptively moving through whatever it is that electromagnetic waves propagate through at at least 30 km/s and possibly much more. If light has to waste time chasing the apparatus, you can easily show that in the arm that's transverse to the earth's velocity the round-trip time should be increased by γ(v)γ(v) (the Lorentz factor), and in the other, longitudinal arm it should be increased by γ2(v)γ2(v).

Now for velocities much less than that of light, γ(v)≈1+v22c2γ(v)≈1+v22c2 and γ2(v)≈1+v2c2γ2(v)≈1+v2c2, for a difference of v22c2v22c2. That's pretty small but it ought to have been detectable with v=30 km/s and 1895 optical technology by rotating the apparatus and thereby flipping it from one arm to the other.

But no. The relativistic interpretation of this is two-fold. The nuts-and-bolts interpretation is that there is length contraction: whichever is the longitudinal arm at any particular time contracts by a factor of γ(v)γ(v) so as to make the times in the two arms equal. (The interpretation is also that both arms, as honorary light clocks, are then time dilated by γ(v)γ(v), but the MM version of the experiment is not sensitive to this - see instead the Kennedy–Thorndike experiment.)

The broader interpretation is that it's not just a one-off coincidence that the MM experiment failed to detect the velocity of the aether, it's a fundamental principle underlying the laws of physics, and that there must be whatever other effects are required to make the velocity relative to the aether systematically undetectable. The second new effect is of course time dilation: it must be the nature of an ideal clock to slow down by γ(v)γ(v) as for the arms of the MM experiment or you could do a combined experiment that would show the difference. And the third main new effect is relativistic mass increase. These have all now been confirmed in various combinations. Curiously you don't have to change a single thing about Maxwellian electromagnetism - it was right the whole time and Newtonian mechanics was wrong. Or in other words, the speed of light being constant is not a mysterious new property of light, it's a set of new properties of everything you could possibly measure light with.

And of course, what is systematically undetectable is presumptively non-existent. So we conclude that there never was an aether, it was just an artifact of thinking about EM in the context of the wrong theory of mechanics (and of time and space).

https://www.quora.com/What-did-the-Michelson-Morley-experiment-prove
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December 03, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
Does anybody think that all this posting response to this FE thread, is actually helping advertise FE? Maybe, just maybe, FE people can get a big enough group from our helping them advertise, that they can apply to Government for minority group status, and get free Government grants so they can life the good life.

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December 03, 2017, 09:47:26 AM
there are many eveidences shown the earth is round, such as the plane has the curve orbit when flying around the world.
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December 03, 2017, 08:57:10 AM
Just keep walking to the sunset (an important point; don't change your direction no matter what), and you will end up where you started. Congrats!
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December 03, 2017, 08:50:14 AM
Travel 4000 years ago and ask the cientists of that time. They already knew the truth.
The Earth is motionless and the Michelson & Morley experiment proves this. This is corroborated by Airy's Failure experiment that also failed to detect any motion.

You are like BaDecker throwing around the word "prove" without knowing what it means.  :/
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December 03, 2017, 08:14:34 AM
Travel 4000 years ago and ask the cientists of that time. They already knew the truth.
The Earth is motionless and the Michelson & Morley experiment proves this. This is corroborated by Airy's Failure experiment that also failed to detect any motion.
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December 03, 2017, 07:01:15 AM


The science to why the earth is round is here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs

Yeah right, from a paid shill. (Btw, he knows the earth is flat)

When will you learn, globeheads.

Round 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beCkNhOIXkg
Round 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh3qFoCCJQ8



Ugh, those videos always make me lose some IQ points, I'm going to be a flat earther soon if I keep losing IQ points. ''I have never heard of a flat disk collapsing into a ball'' ''You have to inflate a basketball'' You can just see the intelligence of these people with his own comments in his video. He doesn't understand that a huge flat disk in space would indeed collapse due to gravity, he uses as an example a basketball which is small and greatly affected by earth's gravity, it's not even hard dude, kids would understand what vsauce meant.
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December 02, 2017, 07:31:16 PM

Travel 4000 years ago and ask the cientists of that time. They already knew the truth.



"Og, here, from Java-Tech (Berkie). Yes, the Earth is flat."
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December 02, 2017, 07:02:03 PM
Travel 4000 years ago and ask the cientists of that time. They already knew the truth.
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December 02, 2017, 06:46:59 PM
When will you learn, globeheads.

Try leaving your house every now and then.  Observe the universe around you.  Smiley
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December 02, 2017, 06:32:57 PM


The science to why the earth is round is here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs

Yeah right, from a paid shill. (Btw, he knows the earth is flat)

When will you learn, globeheads.

Round 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beCkNhOIXkg
Round 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh3qFoCCJQ8

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December 02, 2017, 06:28:39 PM
The Earth is not Flat... I do not believe
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December 02, 2017, 05:51:50 PM
Here are a couple ways to prove to yourself that the Earth is not flat. None of these methods rely on any authority figures, textbooks, astronomical observations, etc. These are things you can do yourself so long as you go to a place with little topography.

Go hike to the top of a tall mountain overlooking a prairie by at least 1000 meters**. Bring a long ruler or meter stick. When you are at the top of the mountain, close one eye and hold out the ruler in front of you to try to line up the ruler along the horizon. Can you do it? Or does the horizon bend away from the edges of the ruler? Why would that be?

Find a very long, straight road on a prairie on a clear day***. Have a friend go with a second car and tell him to start driving. Using binoculars or a telescope, tell him to keep driving until you can no longer see him. Zero the odometer on your car and then go drive to him. How far did you drive? Repeat as necessary. I’m guessing you drove between 4 and 6 km each time. Why would that be? And why can I give you an estimate of how far you will drive?

I could continue this, but I believe theres no point to it
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December 02, 2017, 05:19:19 PM
Is this thread where all the special peeps are?
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December 02, 2017, 05:17:29 PM


The science to why the earth is round is here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs
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December 02, 2017, 04:46:05 PM
boy, it's interesting to watch how both abusive and defensive people get...  I mean, we can't all believe the same thing, that's what helps humans move forward.  And, just because a bunch of people have "concluded" something, doesnt mean that you should still question it. Humans are humans, we make mistakes, we can be wrong...

We have videos, photos and streaming of earth from space, this is not a matter of belief, it's mental illness.
All you have is a load of cgi bullshit.Lol...Beyond belief is the Knowing..., wish i could meam  if so i would include holly woods character  Neo yes i would for sure i would no truly by the  way yes sir ok no problem i would yes sir ree !..... no justice.!!! so what 100% Beef .... Bullshit.!!!!! ps i might ave gone abit  strange on account of all the bullshit!!!!! but We all await the  STORM.!!!
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December 02, 2017, 04:13:01 PM
boy, it's interesting to watch how both abusive and defensive people get...  I mean, we can't all believe the same thing, that's what helps humans move forward.  And, just because a bunch of people have "concluded" something, doesnt mean that you should still question it. Humans are humans, we make mistakes, we can be wrong...

We have videos, photos and streaming of earth from space, this is not a matter of belief, it's mental illness.
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December 02, 2017, 04:03:23 PM
boy, it's interesting to watch how both abusive and defensive people get...  I mean, we can't all believe the same thing, that's what helps humans move forward.  And, just because a bunch of people have "concluded" something, doesnt mean that you should still question it. Humans are humans, we make mistakes, we can be wrong...
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December 02, 2017, 04:02:34 PM
Every map i have seen so far was flag, hence the world is flat ?
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December 02, 2017, 03:51:47 PM
Did you watch the video?



It will surprise you...he is not against the concept



"Is Earth Actually Flat?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs
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