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sr. member
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July 19, 2017, 04:56:03 AM
@butcherboss,

Until you understand how the rules of perspective work any further discussion on this is moot.

If you're wondering about what defines up and down it's the electric field between the dome and the ground. The question of outer space is simple, there is no outer space beyond the dome is water.

That's it over, believe in what you want and let me believe in what I want discussion over.

And please edit your main post from "How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?" to "I believe that the earth is flat and any proof that you give me I am going to disprove it or disregard it"

The only reason I tried to prove that the earth was not flat was because I thought that you genuinely wanted to know, but instead the case is you already believe that the earth is flat and disregard any other facts that prove otherwise, like any other flat earther. In order to understand the proof given by any normal person you need to have basic intelligence which I think you lack and I no longer have the time nor the crayons to explain the concepts to you.
legendary
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July 19, 2017, 03:51:03 AM
@butcherboss,

Until you understand how the rules of perspective work any further discussion on this is moot.

If you're wondering about what defines up and down it's the electric field between the dome and the ground. The question of outer space is simple, there is no outer space beyond the dome is water.
legendary
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July 19, 2017, 03:43:28 AM
"It is for the Adepts to understand the meaning of the symbols.

Return now, with us, to the Degrees of the Blue Masonry, and for your last lesson, receive the explanation of one of their Symbols.

You see upon the altar of those Degrees the SQUARE and the COMPASS, and you remember how they lay upon the altar in each Degree.

The SQUARE is an instrument adapted for plane surfaces only, and therefore appropriate to Geometry, or measurement of the Earth, which appears to be, and was by the Ancients supposed to be, a plane.

The COMPASS is an instrument that has relation to spheres and spherical surfaces, and is adapted to spherical trigonometry, or that branch of mathematics which deals with the Heavens and the orbits of the planetary bodies.

The SQUARE, therefore, is a natural and appropriate Symbol of this Earth and the things that belong to it, are of it, or concern it. The Compass is an equally natural and appropriate Symbol of the Heavens, and of all celestial things and celestial natures."

Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (1872), page 359



See also:  https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nasa+freemason+connection

Albert Pike = 1+3+2+5+2+4 + 8+1+2+5 = 33 (Chaldean)

Speaking of Chaldean Gematria (off-topic)...



ZZ Top = 7+7 + 4+7+8 = 33

Eliminator = 5+3+1+4+1+5+1+4+7+2 = 33

The ZZ Top Eliminator car is a '33 Ford.

Just a coincidence?  Cheesy

sr. member
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July 19, 2017, 02:42:00 AM
Simple proof the Earth is flat:

1. Get a smartphone with a gyroscope chip (i.e. iPhone or Galaxy).

2. Install a gyroscope application that logs the output.

3. Run the application and start logging the output.

4. Use duct tape to secure the phone to the dashboard of your car.

5. Drive across the worlds longest bridge.

6. You now possess documented proof the world is flat.

I think you missed my post. Waiting for an answer explaining that.

Also how to you explain the force that keeps us on the ground on a flat earth.

And have you done the above experiment? If yes what were the results give us the outputs. And how do you come to know that the earth is flat from this experiment please explain.

a) In regards to perspective a simple answer is things appear really small at great distances and any light from such a small source is too dim to penetrate the atmosphere.

b) Objects more dense than the medium they occupy fall, less dense objects rise e.g. a block of wood will fall in air and rise in water. There's a reactionary force when the medium is displaced and this is what holds you to the ground.

c) The worlds longest bridge is in China and I don't live there but those who do and perform the experiment will find the log shows no net curvature at the end of the journey. If the Earth's surface is curved then the driver will be going in an arc while the gyroscope remains level, the experiment is that simple.


a) The source isn't too small its simply far that is why it seems small to you, and it seeming small would it no way affect how how much light can penetrate the atmosphere.

b) Density won't work if there was no gravity. I will try to make this as simple as possible, what is density? It is the amount of mass in in a unit volume. Why do denser things sink (ie. block of wood falls in air)? The amount of mass in a unit volume of air is far less than that of the block of wood, so a greater force acts on the total block of wood due to gravity than on the same volume of air which is why the block displaces that air and falls. In short, without gravity or whatever you want to call it, ie without a external force, difference in density won't make any difference, the block won't fall. This also explains why if you put a block of wood on a weighing scale which is made out of denser material like a metal you can see the amount of force acting on that block of wood.

c) I don't understand this gyroscope thing please explain more. Also one fun fact for you, while building this really long bridge the curvature of the earth had to be taken into account by the Chinese which is normally so small that it can be ignored but in this case the bridge was so big it had to be taken into account.

Also how does the day and night cycle happen on a flat earth??

And BADecker just ignore nomad13666, ignorance and stupidity can't be cured. He clearly can't answer my questions on his theory and belief so decides to attack me and then ignores me shows he has already accepted defeat.



a) Things don't just seem smaller you can get out a ruler and measure their apparent size. In the case of a light it gets smaller and dimmer the further away it is and you can't fucking argue this fact.

b) Not an augment,  you're just rambling incoherently.

c) Plot the output of the gyro log and you can see the bridge doesn't have any curve.

As for day and night your falure to comprehend perspective also prevents you from understanding how this works.
You just busted yourself XD "apparent size" This is exactly what I was trying to say, the object doesn't get smaller its apparent size gets smaller which in no way affects how light interacts with that object. So yes from any point on earth you will be able to see the tallest mountain ie mount Everest, on a flat earth. Also the light produced by fireworks is bright enough to be seen from far away and if the earth was flat you could see it from any point. Also ever been to a beach? If you stand on any beach you should be able to see some other landmass given the earth is flat. No matter which beach.

Anyways, explain day and night unless of course you are trying to avoid getting busted. According to you I won't be able to understand it okay fine, but others will understand so post it for them.

And my point b was a perfect explanation but you are just being ignorant. Tell me how do denser objects decide what direction is down? Why don't denser objects go up? There has to be a force acting on all objects for density to work.

Bonus questions, what is the flat earth explanation on space? like is earth just floating in space without any force acting on it? And what about the stars that we see at night are they spherical or flat? Is the moon flat? Is the sun flat?

EDIT: Just read your previous post. "over a curve the horizon would also be curved" On a flat earth there should be no horizon, think about it, if the earth was flat you would be able to see indefinitely and therefore no horizon. What is a horizon? the line at which the earth's surface and the sky appear to meet, this would NEVER happen on a flat earth but only on a spherical earth 
legendary
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July 19, 2017, 02:21:49 AM
That the earth is a sphere becomes apparent when you swim by sea. If you see a counter ship, then first appears its tip, and then the middle and lower part. If the earth were flat, we would first see a point that would increase until it became a ship.

If the ship was appearing due to sailing up and over a curve the horizon would also be curved, but it's not and the ship would also be tilted backwards but it's not. The reality is that the ship appears due to perspective and the resolving power of your eye.

If you need proof of this just watch a ship sail past the horizon and disappear from view then use binoculars and zoom in on the ship, the whole ship comes back into view. If the ship had gone up and over a physical barrier of water it would be blocked from view. Water is level and the idea that it forms a curved hill is not only ridiculous but goes against observation, measurement and common sense.
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July 19, 2017, 01:35:28 AM
That the earth is a sphere becomes apparent when you swim by sea. If you see a counter ship, then first appears its tip, and then the middle and lower part. If the earth were flat, we would first see a point that would increase until it became a ship.
newbie
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July 18, 2017, 09:22:05 AM

This is much more realistic theory than the flat Earth Cheesy
sr. member
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July 18, 2017, 09:07:32 AM

I don't waste my time explaining anything to dinks that are too lazy to do their own research.

You use the internet to log on to this forum, so try using Google.

Maybe try clicking on some of the links I provide.

Then go fuck yourself, you cunt.

If you don't want to explain anything to anyone, then why do you post?

Sorry old chap, but that just leaves you as a troll.

Now I personally like the majority of the insults you post. I actually find them quite funny.

However, if you want to be taken seriously, then I recommend you rebut some of the points before you unleash your "charm" on others.
How do you expect him to be taken seriously with 70 IQ? His only "knowledge" is using MS Paint.
legendary
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July 18, 2017, 09:06:40 AM
Flat Earth.
Flat Moon.
Flat Brain Cheesy

Ask your mom if you can have a bowl of cereal while you watch cartoons.

Cartoons are much too boring. It's way more fun watching you wallow around in your spittle.

 Grin
legendary
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July 18, 2017, 09:05:03 AM
Fuck off, BADecker. You are nothing but a clueless twat.

Nobody goes to "outer space". It's bullshit, just like you.

Drink some more alcohol. Maybe that will help you out.

 Cheesy

People who go to outer space usually stay away from those who struggle with their funny farm inner space.

Cool
sr. member
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July 18, 2017, 09:03:06 AM

I don't waste my time explaining anything to dinks that are too lazy to do their own research.

You use the internet to log on to this forum, so try using Google.

Maybe try clicking on some of the links I provide.

Then go fuck yourself, you cunt.

If you don't want to explain anything to anyone, then why do you post?

Sorry old chap, but that just leaves you as a troll.

Now I personally like the majority of the insults you post. I actually find them quite funny.

However, if you want to be taken seriously, then I recommend you rebut some of the points before you unleash your "charm" on others.
newbie
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July 18, 2017, 08:32:52 AM
Flat Earth.
Flat Moon.
Flat Brain Cheesy
legendary
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July 18, 2017, 08:27:59 AM
https://i.imgur.com/B0b9gFp.jpg

"Everything We've Been Told Is A Lie...And Why It Is Great To Realize It!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EpKRmTxf9w


Bonus Berwick walk & talk:

"Was The Moon Landing Fake? Of Course It Was."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ifFsu-oTA


The moon landing wasn't fake. But they tricked you. They showed you a fake moon landing, and let you believe they were showing you the real thing. And you fell for it for a while. Then, right on their schedule, you started to understand that their fake moon landing was fake. Good work on your part.

Nobody who is smart enough to do a moon landing is going to show you the real thing. After all, he doesn't want every funny farm joker to be part of his private operation, right? And you fell for it, just like they wanted.

The proof that the real moon landing was not fake is right in the words. Consider the two sets of words, below:
1. Real moon landing;
2. Fake moon landing.

All you have ever seen was a fake moon landing, right? So, since you have not seen it, why would you think that the real moon landing is fake. The words even show you that they are not the same.

Take a look at the wall in your funny farm room. You might think that there are studs behind the drywall. But how do you really know? You never saw them. If you saw some fake studs somewhere, what does that have to do with real studs?

The earth is a globe. NASA went to the moon. And they aren't going to show funny farm residents like yourself anything important that they are really doing.

Cool

EDIT: That really is a picture of you at https://i.imgur.com/B0b9gFp.jpg, isn't it?
legendary
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July 18, 2017, 08:05:34 AM
Simple proof the Earth is flat:

1. Get a smartphone with a gyroscope chip (i.e. iPhone or Galaxy).

2. Install a gyroscope application that logs the output.

3. Run the application and start logging the output.

4. Use duct tape to secure the phone to the dashboard of your car.

5. Drive across the worlds longest bridge.

6. You now possess documented proof the world is flat.

I think you missed my post. Waiting for an answer explaining that.

Also how to you explain the force that keeps us on the ground on a flat earth.

And have you done the above experiment? If yes what were the results give us the outputs. And how do you come to know that the earth is flat from this experiment please explain.

a) In regards to perspective a simple answer is things appear really small at great distances and any light from such a small source is too dim to penetrate the atmosphere.

b) Objects more dense than the medium they occupy fall, less dense objects rise e.g. a block of wood will fall in air and rise in water. There's a reactionary force when the medium is displaced and this is what holds you to the ground.

c) The worlds longest bridge is in China and I don't live there but those who do and perform the experiment will find the log shows no net curvature at the end of the journey. If the Earth's surface is curved then the driver will be going in an arc while the gyroscope remains level, the experiment is that simple.


a) The source isn't too small its simply far that is why it seems small to you, and it seeming small would it no way affect how how much light can penetrate the atmosphere.

b) Density won't work if there was no gravity. I will try to make this as simple as possible, what is density? It is the amount of mass in in a unit volume. Why do denser things sink (ie. block of wood falls in air)? The amount of mass in a unit volume of air is far less than that of the block of wood, so a greater force acts on the total block of wood due to gravity than on the same volume of air which is why the block displaces that air and falls. In short, without gravity or whatever you want to call it, ie without a external force, difference in density won't make any difference, the block won't fall. This also explains why if you put a block of wood on a weighing scale which is made out of denser material like a metal you can see the amount of force acting on that block of wood.

c) I don't understand this gyroscope thing please explain more. Also one fun fact for you, while building this really long bridge the curvature of the earth had to be taken into account by the Chinese which is normally so small that it can be ignored but in this case the bridge was so big it had to be taken into account.

Also how does the day and night cycle happen on a flat earth??

And BADecker just ignore nomad13666, ignorance and stupidity can't be cured. He clearly can't answer my questions on his theory and belief so decides to attack me and then ignores me shows he has already accepted defeat.



a) Things don't just seem smaller you can get out a ruler and measure their apparent size. In the case of a light it gets smaller and dimmer the further away it is and you can't fucking argue this fact.

b) Not an augment,  you're just rambling incoherently.

c) Plot the output of the gyro log and you can see the bridge doesn't have any curve.

As for day and night your falure to comprehend perspective also prevents you from understanding how this works.
newbie
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July 18, 2017, 03:57:46 AM
sounds good, doesn't work.
..no seriously it doesnt. does it? :/
legendary
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July 18, 2017, 03:14:24 AM


"Everything We've Been Told Is A Lie...And Why It Is Great To Realize It!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EpKRmTxf9w


Bonus Berwick walk & talk:

"Was The Moon Landing Fake? Of Course It Was."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ifFsu-oTA
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 250
July 18, 2017, 02:28:27 AM
Simple proof the Earth is flat:

1. Get a smartphone with a gyroscope chip (i.e. iPhone or Galaxy).

2. Install a gyroscope application that logs the output.

3. Run the application and start logging the output.

4. Use duct tape to secure the phone to the dashboard of your car.

5. Drive across the worlds longest bridge.

6. You now possess documented proof the world is flat.

I think you missed my post. Waiting for an answer explaining that.

Also how to you explain the force that keeps us on the ground on a flat earth.

And have you done the above experiment? If yes what were the results give us the outputs. And how do you come to know that the earth is flat from this experiment please explain.

a) In regards to perspective a simple answer is things appear really small at great distances and any light from such a small source is too dim to penetrate the atmosphere.

b) Objects more dense than the medium they occupy fall, less dense objects rise e.g. a block of wood will fall in air and rise in water. There's a reactionary force when the medium is displaced and this is what holds you to the ground.

c) The worlds longest bridge is in China and I don't live there but those who do and perform the experiment will find the log shows no net curvature at the end of the journey. If the Earth's surface is curved then the driver will be going in an arc while the gyroscope remains level, the experiment is that simple.


a) The source isn't too small its simply far that is why it seems small to you, and it seeming small would it no way affect how how much light can penetrate the atmosphere.

b) Density won't work if there was no gravity. I will try to make this as simple as possible, what is density? It is the amount of mass in in a unit volume. Why do denser things sink (ie. block of wood falls in air)? The amount of mass in a unit volume of air is far less than that of the block of wood, so a greater force acts on the total block of wood due to gravity than on the same volume of air which is why the block displaces that air and falls. In short, without gravity or whatever you want to call it, ie without a external force, difference in density won't make any difference, the block won't fall. This also explains why if you put a block of wood on a weighing scale which is made out of denser material like a metal you can see the amount of force acting on that block of wood.

c) I don't understand this gyroscope thing please explain more. Also one fun fact for you, while building this really long bridge the curvature of the earth had to be taken into account by the Chinese which is normally so small that it can be ignored but in this case the bridge was so big it had to be taken into account.

Also how does the day and night cycle happen on a flat earth??

And BADecker just ignore nomad13666, ignorance and stupidity can't be cured. He clearly can't answer my questions on his theory and belief so decides to attack me and then ignores me shows he has already accepted defeat.

legendary
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July 17, 2017, 08:49:09 PM
BADecker referring to himself in the third person is a narcissistic reflex triggered when his baseless ego is threatened.
legendary
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July 17, 2017, 08:28:04 PM
BADecker would prefer to argue that gyroscopic action is impossible then face the truth, a spinning top is simply an observational error like the Moon and the horizon. I think he's fucking drunk and hallucinating!
legendary
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July 17, 2017, 07:56:03 PM
BADecker is one of a majority of people in the world who still thinks that they have been educated with truth.

It's too much of a kick in the ego for him to even begin to fathom that he is wrong about absolutely everything.

His subconscious drives him to troll this thread in a desperate attempt to cling to what he believes is real and true.

BADecker simply has a better religion than flat earth. As for science, BADecker has some, while FE people don't.

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