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November 29, 2016, 06:51:39 PM

Gravity is not a lie. Do you think im blind? All im saying is that we have absolutly no proof that gravity is caused by a mass. Secondly flat earth is provably fake. Thirdly I dont believe we live outside of earth. There is a third option that I was speaking about. Its less known and a lot more controversial and you have to have a really open mind and a will to study it. I believe that we live inside earth and sky is in the center of it. Yeah I know it sounds crazy, but at least it cant be as easily disproven as flat earth. Its sounds crazy yeah. Thats why I dont advocate it. I just try put you in doubt on other alternatives so that it would sound less crazy.

So its like the official story but twisted and inverse. And im not conspiracy theorist. In a sane world there wouldnt be such an organisation as Nasa if there wouldnt be any gains from space programs. Satelites and such. Another story is that they dont tell us everything. But why would they? They can keep the knowledge to themselves as a knowledge is power.

You will say but the sun is so big... the planets within planets how can that be? Any proofs? Outside of stories and maths based on stories? Yeah maybe im congitivly biased. I dont mind. But you my friend have no proof. Nada. Nothing. So we both might be wrong. Sure. But dont be surprised one day your stories are just that - a stories.
i have actually looked into that theory a bit, it is an interesting one (overall doesn't logically make sense but is more valid then flat earth) and my apologizes i made a few assumptions about your belief. but with your belief the largest issue i have with it is the question of gravity. in an inverted sphere what is keeping you around the edges?
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November 29, 2016, 06:21:53 PM
is this topic serious?
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November 29, 2016, 06:08:21 PM
You dont understand. All the right sight of the equation is just based on assumption that earth is a ball. We have an unknown mass and some constant that is an assumption as well. Doesnt it bothering you? m- mass is assumtion. r(square) - earth being a ball - assumption. G- assumption. Its looks like not based at facts AT ALL. Only the left sight of equation an earth acceleration is based on facts.

Im telling you there are no facts and you keep saying the facts could be different tomorrow. There are just assumptions.

Ill say the last thing on the matter:

If we base our theories only on maths there is not certain that they are based on reality.

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they are attempted to be disproved constantly however there is no logical argument against it.

Physicians says they dont know what kind of force is a gravity and you say they constantly try to disprove that they dont know what it is? That discourse tires me. Im speaking about one thing and you say another stuff. Do you speak with google or with me?
Alright what is it that you are purposing? that gravity is a lie, and that the world as well as every planet are just floating disks a couple miles above our surface? and that stars are nothing more then lights in the sky? what exactly do you believe because reading up on flat earth makes me question everyone's sanity but i have an open mind. so tell my what is and is not a lie and i will tell you why you are suffering from cognitive bias.

Gravity is not a lie. Do you think im blind? All im saying is that we have absolutly no proof that gravity is caused by a mass. Secondly flat earth is provably fake. Thirdly I dont believe we live outside of earth. There is a third option that I was speaking about. Its less known and a lot more controversial and you have to have a really open mind and a will to study it. I believe that we live inside earth and sky is in the center of it. Yeah I know it sounds crazy, but at least it cant be as easily disproven as flat earth. Its sounds crazy yeah. Thats why I dont advocate it. I just try put you in doubt on other alternatives so that it would sound less crazy.

So its like the official story but twisted and inverse. And im not conspiracy theorist. In a sane world there wouldnt be such an organisation as Nasa if there wouldnt be any gains from space programs. Satelites and such. Another story is that they dont tell us everything. But why would they? They can keep the knowledge to themselves as a knowledge is power.

You will say but the sun is so big... the planets within planets how can that be? Any proofs? Outside of stories and maths based on stories? Yeah maybe im congitivly biased. I dont mind. But you my friend have no proof. Nada. Nothing. So we both might be wrong. Sure. But dont be surprised one day your stories are just that - a stories.
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November 29, 2016, 06:05:59 PM
Nothing.

Your contribution to the topic is always appreciated, nomad13666.  (read what I've quoted) Grin
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November 29, 2016, 06:03:44 PM
I can smell a puddle of science there...

I think you mean here, Guido.



Don't be a bimbominchia.

RESEARCH FLAT EARTH
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22flat+earth%22
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November 29, 2016, 05:38:32 PM
You dont understand. All the right sight of the equation is just based on assumption that earth is a ball. We have an unknown mass and some constant that is an assumption as well. Doesnt it bothering you? m- mass is assumtion. r(square) - earth being a ball - assumption. G- assumption. Its looks like not based at facts AT ALL. Only the left sight of equation an earth acceleration is based on facts.

Im telling you there are no facts and you keep saying the facts could be different tomorrow. There are just assumptions.

Ill say the last thing on the matter:

If we base our theories only on maths there is not certain that they are based on reality.

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they are attempted to be disproved constantly however there is no logical argument against it.

Physicians says they dont know what kind of force is a gravity and you say they constantly try to disprove that they dont know what it is? That discourse tires me. Im speaking about one thing and you say another stuff. Do you speak with google or with me?
Alright what is it that you are purposing? that gravity is a lie, and that the world as well as every planet are just floating disks a couple miles above our surface? and that stars are nothing more then lights in the sky? what exactly do you believe because reading up on flat earth makes me question everyone's sanity but i have an open mind. so tell my what is and is not a lie and i will tell you why you are suffering from cognitive bias.
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November 29, 2016, 05:25:44 PM

These are paid clowns, already debunked several times in various videos I posted back.

Here is one of them exclusively for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jNA1TjvZa8


And a bonus material - How efficiently and with style debunk a flat earth "debunking video".  This guy made a shame of himself and will never touch debunking flat earth video again.  Tongue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf7J8sr8NXQ

WOW!!!  Shocked Shocked Shocked Russianvids and Flat Earth Asshole... Just by their names on YT I can smell a puddle of science there... what renowned and reliable sources you've got to debunk the debunkers.

Here is a quote for you FEs: "Stupidity isn't the lack of knowledge, but the illusion of having it." - Grigore Iulian
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November 29, 2016, 04:58:53 PM
I just have to post this... damn flat earthers  Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2dTXB3O3dw

and this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1au0ubk05ps

and this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuwjWZV8EA0

and this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAzk4qhoz9Q

Need more videos about you FEs full retards?

These are paid clowns, already debunked several times in various videos I posted back.

Here is one of them exclusively for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jNA1TjvZa8


And a bonus material - How efficiently and with style debunk a flat earth "debunking video".  This guy made a shame of himself and will never touch debunking flat earth video again.  Tongue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf7J8sr8NXQ




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November 29, 2016, 04:27:56 PM
You dont understand. All the right sight of the equation is just based on assumption that earth is a ball. We have an unknown mass and some constant that is an assumption as well. Doesnt it bothering you? m- mass is assumtion. r(square) - earth being a ball - assumption. G- assumption. Its looks like not based at facts AT ALL. Only the left sight of equation an earth acceleration is based on facts.

Im telling you there are no facts and you keep saying the facts could be different tomorrow. There are just assumptions.

Ill say the last thing on the matter:

If we base our theories only on maths there is not certain that they are based on reality.

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they are attempted to be disproved constantly however there is no logical argument against it.

Physicians says they dont know what kind of force is a gravity and you say they constantly try to disprove that they dont know what it is? That discourse tires me. Im speaking about one thing and you say another stuff. Do you speak with google or with me?
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November 29, 2016, 04:19:55 PM
For 100% gravity is a phenomena. Physics shouldn't have to do with phenomena - just with laws. Yes there is a law of gravity acceleration. And that where physics should end their babbling because:


Theory should be based on facts. Theory of gravity is based on misunderstanding of a math. We have 2 masses that that say one is irrelevant and other is unknown and all we know is gravity acceleration and earth diameters. That is like an erroneous equation if you view it by logic. You get my point?
Theory is based on facts. (Scientific theories anyway) that is what my rant was about. the misunderstanding of scientific theories. they are attempted to be disproved constantly however there is no logical argument against it. therefore as far as we know it is fact. however due to the nature of science we cannot state things as fact because we lack the knowledge of the future. tomorrow things could happen that would change the theory of gravity. therefore is will remain a "Theory" until we know beyond any certainty that nothing will change.

Also cant people spell check their shit before they post i get tired of correcting them.
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November 29, 2016, 04:18:03 PM
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November 29, 2016, 04:02:31 PM
For 100% gravity is a phenomen. Physics shouldnt have to do with phenomens - just with laws. Yes there is a law of gravity acceleration. And that where physics should end their babblings because:


Theory should be based on facts. Theory of gravity is based on misunderstanding of a math. We have 2 masses that thats says one is irrelevant and other is unknown and all we know is gravity acceleration and earth diameters. Thats like an errournous equation if you view it by logic. You get my point?
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November 29, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
The claim "gravity is technically just a theory" ranges from completely wrong to completely obvious depending on what you mean by the words "gravity" and "theory". That's because those words (like most words) have multiple meanings, and those meanings can be particularly different in everyday speech compared to technical jargon.

First of all, like many others have said, gravity is a phenomenon, not a theory. There are several different theories describing this phenomenon. That the phenomenon itself exists is hard to doubt, except of course if you're willing to believe that it's all just a dream or we're living in a simulation.

Secondly, "theory" has several different meanings. In common speech, a "theory" is little more than a hunch. It's just some explanation you came up with by thinking about it for 5 minutes. That's very different from what the word "theory" tends to mean when used by scientists.

Scientists typically only call something a "theory" if it is a precise framework for understanding a large number of facts, and this usually only after that framework has been thoroughly tested. So saying "just a theory" is effectively an oxymoron: in science, a theory is pretty much the highest point for an idea to reach.

Interestingly, in particle physics at least, the term "theory" has acquired a third meaning, as a very precise mathematical description of a system that may or may not exist in reality. So people, for example, talk about N=4N=4 super-symmetric Yang–Mills theory, although there is no experimental verification that super-symmetry or con-formal symmetry even exist, let alone be described in that particular way. This isn't because physicists are crazy or stupid; it's because they use the term with a different meaning, and this meaning is clear from context.

So, just like when you talk about a pride of lions or a murder of crows you don't confuse them with a person's pride or his violent demise, make sure to not confuse one meaning of the word "theory" with another!

Now, I said that the statement "gravity is technically just a theory" can range from wrong to trivial depending on what you mean by the words. How is that? First of all, if by gravity you mean the phenomenon, then it's isn't a theory at all. If you instead mean a specific theory, like Newton's theory of gravity, or Einstein's theory of general relativity, then it depends on what you mean by "theory". If you're referring to the layman's notion of a "theory", then the statement is absolutely false: there are huge numbers of experiments showing that each of those theories is good within its range of applicability. They both are most definitely much more than "just a theory". (If you're confused about the claim that both theories are good, see Isaac Asimov's The Relativity of Wrong).

If instead you mean "theory" in the scientific sense, then of course any model of gravity is "just" a theory: since such a model makes claims about how gravity worked, works, and will work everywhere in the universe and for all of time, it's obvious that we can never fully test it. For all we know, gravity might work differently starting tomorrow. So in this sense, the claim is trivial.

So when you say it has not been "Proven" then that is wrong. because gravity is as true as humanity, as time, as mass. just because there may be different takes that are educated guesses, doesnt mean it is not a force. the law of gravity is just that a physical LAW. besides even if it was "Just a theory" it is still a hell of a lot more then anyone else has including all of flat earth claims.

So finally i ask show me how to disprove gravity.
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November 29, 2016, 03:34:17 PM
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please enlighten us on how to disprove gravity...

There is nothing to disprove because nothing was proven mate. Outside of that its force that force us to the earths crust.
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November 29, 2016, 03:27:18 PM
Gravity : The easiest theory to disprove ask me how .


Flat Earth is Real.... Time for people to wake up!

That shit is only legit on a ball scam.
please enlighten us on how to disprove gravity...
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November 29, 2016, 02:49:02 PM
Gravity : The easiest theory to disprove ask me how .


Flat Earth is Real.... Time for people to wake up!

That shit is only legit on a ball scam.
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November 29, 2016, 02:47:35 PM
The only questions that round earthers REALLY need to fear are the questions of what is gravity? And what is a nature of suns light? Because their claims are provable hence are not physics as such. Its just theorizing what would fit their puzzle.
what is gravity? Definition; the force that attracts a body toward the center of the earth, or toward any other physical body having mass. For most purposes Newton's laws of gravity apply, with minor modifications to take the general theory of relativity into account.

dumbed down: Big dense mass attracts more mass. a small representation of this is if you have a steady flow of water (out of your sink perhaps) and place an object close to it. (not under it) the waters path will no longer be straight down but rather askew tward the object. (different objects dhow this better)

what is a nature of suns light? Not sure what you mean by nature of sunlight. sunlight (or rather any light) is composed of the different colors of the spectrum of light. light is also pure energy thus meaning heat. sunlight also carries light that we cannot perceive with the naked eye, this light (UV for instance) is irradiated. when light hits an object light is absorbed and other light is reflected. the light reflected is what gives us color. for instance black absorbs all light. (why black items get hot because it holds the light) thus reflecting no light meaning that we perceive it as black. there are some objects that reflect nearly all light these are reflective for instance a mirror or moon dust. then there are objects that are see through that allow light to not be absorbed or reflected. these are transparent like windows or air. however sometimes not all light can be passed through and some colors appears more prominently such as mirrors have a very slight green tint to the reflections. water also can be transparent but in vast quantities it becomes clear that it can also reflect light. such as the ocean reflecting the blue in the sky. The sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light. When we look towards the sun at sunset, we see red and orange colors because the blue light has been scattered out and away from the line of sight.

Edit im just going to leave this here (https://www.inverse.com/article/10770-people-who-think-the-earth-is-flat-are-wrong-but-flat-earthers-aren-t-nuts)

@gravity - Youve got to be kidding with that water experiment. Who have told you it works? This water aint moving a bit. Who've told you that? Those are just particles hiting other particles of water changing its trajectory. Sorry i didnt sense a jedi powers before i touch the water changing its trajectory by making a water cascade. Its more resembling a waterfall than a gravitation. Thats the best you could do? If any physicians will prove the gravity by attaction of a mass he would for 100% get the nobel price. Ain't going to happen. And yes yadayadayada - you have been and seen the earth core. Blessed are those who believed but havnt seen. Alleluya! Its just in a best way an asssumption. On the worst case its fucked up religion.

And yes im not talking about if gravity has force. It does mmmk? Dont mess newton into that. He doesnt explain what is a gravity he just says - hey man, dont fall of that window unless you want to have x-force on your face or spine equal to your massive fat body with increasing speed as you fall.

@sun - I was suggesting that scientists claim that the light is produced as byproduct of nuclear fission, made by itself, because supposed gravity is so high it squizes the little jesus out of atoms and they become one - like in the Highlander movie.

All I can say to that is

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November 29, 2016, 02:35:13 PM
SUCKER  Grin

hahahahahaha


I see you're playing stupid again... looks like you're winning too!  Wink
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November 29, 2016, 02:23:17 PM
People like you think they are very smart but they actually very dumb meat lovin noobs falling for scams left n right I have no time to waste to enlighten the likes of you child.

Grow up & yes many flat earthers do that cause they ignorant too deal with a real flat earther and you might have some real problems you delusional bally.

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