Topic: Flat Earth - page 774. (Read 1095196 times)

And don't forget, the galaxy is spinning at like 500,000 mph. Everything's relative man!

I especially like the flat-earth explanation for gravity - apparently the flat earth is accelerating upwards perpetually at 9.8m/s^2, but somehow we still haven't broken the speed of light yet!

No, no, no.

Haven't you figured out yet, that when I walk, it is not I that move, but it is the earth that moves under me? In addition, it is the same for everyone else, even if they are walking in the opposite direction right past me.

Once science figures this out, they will be on their way to discovering the true physics of this stationary moving flat earth globe we live on.

Thanks for the effort, but tl;dr
btw did you know you live on a none moving plane(t) and not on a Ball moving through space like being kicked by David Beckham
 

You provided your misunderstandings, and do yourself the disservice of discrediting or ignoring everything that doesn't fit your beliefs as if they are trivial.  For example, your picture shows a single beam of light illuminating the bottom of the clouds, and ignores the fact that the sun in the picture would also be illuminating the top of the clouds as well as the ground.  Just because you drew it doesn't mean that's what actually happens.  And you KNOW what happens after sunset (unless you're an invelid or something and haven't been outside in years...or if you're blind).

On the other hand your misunderstandings *are* trivial with respect to maintaining a belief in a spherical earth.  You have an extreme case of confirmation bias, and are willing to perform the mental gymnastics required to maintain your beliefs at all cost.  That's the embodiment of intellectual dishonesty.  Accept photos that fit your belief only and reject all others, accept all experiments that (you think) support your beliefs and reject all that don't, etc.  It's like you're actively trying to be paranoid (by wilfully trying to confirm that millions of people are all lying to you) and delusional (willfully trying to believe in things that don't correspond with reality; refer to your drawing).

But, I understand why you do this.  As I've stated before, it must be a thrilling feeling to think that you are part of some select minority and are privy to information that billions of others are not, including the smartest people on the planet who occupy the most privileged and exclusive professions.  From time to time, I like to convince myself of how smart I am, too.  Because, well...nobody likes to feel wrong or like an idiot.

Now You Can See Five Planets At Once With The Naked Eye







Read more at http://www.popsci.com/gathering-at-dawn-all-planets-are-visible-at-once.

LOL i think earth is still unshaped and we are giving a shape to it , by our good activities like deforestation and such

Oh, good point bad. I really need to re-do that graphic, transparent was word I was looking for. I was in a state of extreme agitation and couldn't focus while drawing that up for some reason. I'll try again and put some more effort into details, notation and accuracy.

Wow! You'd have to be bigger than the Colossus of Rhodes to get this view.    

EDIT: Besides, the reason nonbatman is right is, you can't see anything clearly through something that is translucent (see the graphic).

 

I provide photographic evidence of the tops of clouds with with a hot spot under the Sun to prove my point. I point out that the distance to the Sun as measured by a sextant is 3k miles. I prove that the Earth is stationary with Airy's failure experiment and the fact the Sun isn't overhead at 12 AM every ~180 days. I point out that the path of the Sun through the sky as measured by a sundial is impossible on a globe Earth. I even drew an illustration on how the bottom of clouds are illuminated by the Sun on our flat Earth at sunset.

You on the other hand pull a statement out of you ass with no pictures, data or anything at all to analyze. Perhaps you should go "zero-to-fuck" yourself until you can back up what you're saying with something other than unsubstantiated comments.

The stupid person thinks he is as smart or smarter than the smart person, and therein lies his stupidity.  Most of us here know who the gullible one is...(as a few flat earth YouTubers laugh their way to the bank).

I recall an earlier post of yours in which you claimed you cared about intellectual honesty, or something along those lines.  Or maybe it was that you were on the fence about what to believe.  Whatever it was, I guess you decided to throw that out the window.  If I was a scammer, I would love people like you -- say anything that seems plausible at face value and you're in, hook, line, and sinker.

If you think you're smart, you really should evaluate the circumstances under which you've reached your new found beliefs, and then consider the consequences they will bring you -- socially and otherwise -- if you are wrong (and you are).  If you really value intellectual honesty, you should re-evaluate your beliefs for any flaws and inconsistencies (and there are many) to ensure that you are not being deceived.  Seems to me you went from zero-to-fuck it in no time.

Edit:  Remember, we aren't the ones that think a 3,000 mile-high sun can illuminate the bottom of the cloud layer after sunset, but illuminate neither the ground nor the top of the cloud layer. 

Sorry dude but you're a gullible fool if you believe the Earth is a spinning globe.

Retardation emanates from this thread.

If I get rich some day, all of you should expect to be on the first private space cruise and see the so called "flat earth" with your own very eyes.

Time to get schooled boys and girls, I've crafted the following image [under conditions of extreme agitation and lack of focus] to show why only the top portion of a ship is visible after it goes past the horizon.




Edit:

The ships scale and positioning is a bit "off" but the diagram still accurately makes the point of why only the top half is visible past the horizon. I'll redo the image with proper ship scale and post the results.

edit 2:

I intended to use the word transparent not translucent.

Numbers are perfect and math is the only science where we can be 100% sure of the results.

Mathematics is a lie. Even counting numbers is a lie. Why? Because there are no two things in the universe that are exactly the same. Because of this we cannot rightfully say, "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc., ..." To be right we have to say, "1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, etc., ..."



EDIT: Okay, okay. You want the point? The point is that proving either flat earth and round earth is impossible with the math system we have.

All you need to see that the earth is roundish are:
1. a tall ship;
2. a clear day;
3. a telescope;
4. enough distance between the telescope and the ship that you can only see half of the ship through the telescope, because the other half is below the horizon.

If you have another telescope that is exactly the same distance from the ship, but on the other side of it, there is more evidence.

When the telescope is mounted on a beach, and there is another telescope mounted on the top of the thousand-foot cliff that is right at the peach, perspective shows you clearly that the earth is basically round.

Yes, millions are deceived by the prince of the air through all governmental/social/educational/scientific/technological systems all way down to an individual-you. Did you watch movie matrix? You can learn something out of it. There is plain truth hidden in movies and lies in the news.

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience.

Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

You are probably correct when you say that art class is where it is taught (I am speaking about the perspective idea in the video). Since it is so abstract that you have to become a believer just to understand it, there is no reason for anyone other than an art student to beautify the world with it. Understanding it as a science would turn the person who understood it into a blubbering idiot regarding science, because he has to believe it before he can understand it.

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Airy's Failure is a fun riddle. The reason it is not taught is that it doesn't have anything to do with science these days. Scientific understanding has gone way beyond it.

Nobody is prohibited from looking all kinds of history up regarding astronomy and alchemy. If that is what they want to do, the schools don't prohibit them.

Take the Wright brothers for example. If a person wants to learn to be a pilot, and especially if he wants to learn some flight engineering, he will be taught about the Wright brothers to some extent. The Wrights had a reasonable understanding of aerodynamics. And it is good to know their history, and even a bit of the history of their aerodynamics experience.

The thing that aviation schools are not going to teach about the Wright brothers, is all the sales applications that they used for selling the bicycles that they made. It doesn't apply. People can look it up if it is available to look up. But it doesn't apply to aviation these days.

Airy's Failure might be a riddle. But science has moved beyond it in other ways. It doesn't apply. People can stump themselves with the riddle if they want. Nobody is going to stop them. And that is why we have the flat-earth people. They are unwilling to get up and move on.

Okay.

The first thing you said may be true, but it's certainly not proof that rockets don't work in a vacuum. Conservation of momentum will apply.

Try sitting in a chair with wheels and throwing heavy stuff out - you will move in the opposite direction. And it's not because the stuff you throw is pushing against the air. To prove this you could first throw a heavy cannonball and then a balloon, that are both the same size. If they were pushing against the air, then they would both cause your chair to move the same amount. However, the cannonball will make you move more because it has more mass. Try it!

I had a little watch, I can see how some people might find it compelling. But it's wrong.

Specifically, he says that the horizon on a flat Earth obscures the bottom of buildings when they are far enough away. Can you see how ridiculous this concept is? How can something flat hide anything? For the bottoms to be obscured, there must be something to obscure them.

Also I don't know why he thinks the buildings on a globe Earth would be slanted or not parallel. True, they would slant very slightly away from the observer, but this wouldn't be apparent because they are slanting in the same direction as the line of sight. And they would still appear to be parallel - why would one building decide to lean left and the one next to it lean right?

However, the biggest problem for me with the Flat Earth theory is not gravity, the sun, the moon, satellites or perspective. It's the fact that there would need to be literally millions of people in on the conspiracy. Why would they conspire to keep this secret, what benefit could it have to be worth such effort and risk, and how could they keep it a secret?

You really think that not one person out of this group of millions would write a proper scientific paper and manage to get it published? Imagine the wealth and fame they would acquire if they did prove it!