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legendary
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January 14, 2016, 09:39:31 PM




I'm starting think you guys on more than just the sauce.

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Here's a question for you:  How would you explain the fact that, just after the sun sets, the bottom of the cloud layer becomes illuminated by the sunlight?  Specifically, how would you reconcile the fact that the sun's altitude must be below the cloud layer so as to illuminate the bottom of it with your model that claims the sun is some ~3,000 miles above a flat earth at all times, rotating in a circular orbit?
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I crafted an image depicting just that and posted it a while back:

legendary
Activity: 1834
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January 14, 2016, 08:25:32 PM
But satellite pictures show as sphere....?

Satellites are a hoax my dear and all the pictures are faker than a reality TV show. Here's a picture taken from a weather balloon; notice two things, the horizon is perfectly flat and the hot-spot under the Sun.



Are you blind? There is curvature in that horizon!   Smiley

Time to lay off the sauce buddy the beer goggles are distorting your vision!

Here's a question for you:  How would you explain the fact that, just after the sun sets, the bottom of the cloud layer becomes illuminated by the sunlight?  Specifically, how would you reconcile the fact that the sun's altitude must be below the cloud layer so as to illuminate the bottom of it with your model that claims the sun is some ~3,000 miles above a flat earth at all times, rotating in a circular orbit?

Edit: The horizon in that picture is curved, by the way.
legendary
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January 14, 2016, 08:03:12 PM
But satellite pictures show as sphere....?

Satellites are a hoax my dear and all the pictures are faker than a reality TV show. Here's a picture taken from a weather balloon; notice two things, the horizon is perfectly flat and the hot-spot under the Sun.



Are you blind? There is curvature in that horizon!   Smiley

Time to lay off the sauce buddy the beer goggles are distorting your vision!
legendary
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January 14, 2016, 07:32:48 PM
But satellite pictures show as sphere....?

Satellites are a hoax my dear and all the pictures are faker than a reality TV show. Here's a picture taken from a weather balloon; notice two things, the horizon is perfectly flat and the hot-spot under the Sun.



Are you blind? There is curvature in that horizon!   Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
January 14, 2016, 06:57:02 PM
But satellite pictures show as sphere....?

Satellites are a hoax my dear and all the pictures are faker than a reality TV show. Here's a picture taken from a weather balloon; notice two things, the horizon is perfectly flat and the hot spot under the Sun.

legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
January 08, 2016, 08:35:33 PM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!

image

"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman

image



Actually, the bulge in the earth due to the centrifugal force of rotation makes the earth bulge slightly at its equator. Because the land masses of the northern and southern hemispheres are not equal, the earth gets a shape that is slightly like that of a pear. The amount of bulge difference is only about 5%, so it would barely be noticeable.

Smiley

The Airy's failure experiment and the fact the Sun isn't overhead at midnight every 180 days is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Earth is not rotating or in motion. But please, do tell us about how you prefer to ignore these facts and believe that the Earth is like a fruit.

1) Wrongly interpreting Airy's failure isn't proof of anything except poor inference.

2) Lol @ sun not being overhead at midnight after ~1/2 year.  It's probably a good idea to understand what you're arguing against before making a claim against it.  After 1/2 year, the Earth is facing the other side of the sun having rotated halfway around it, oriented the other way in relation to the stars, explained by the cumulative difference between sidereal and solar time over the same period of time, which is ~12 hours.  In other words, after 1/2 year a given location on earth is oriented the same way towards the sun, but is oriented the opposite way to the celestial sky (stars).  We use solar time so day and night don't get screwed up.  If we used sidereal time, only then would we have the problem you're suggesting.

1. Either the Earth is rotating or it's motionless and the stars are moving; Airy's failure experiment conclusively proves that it's the stars that are in motion.

2. A day has absolutely nothing to do with stars or sidereal time, the length of a day is 24 hours and involves only the Earth and the Sun; you've got no argument here.

3. Is your favorite animal also carrot?

1.  No, all it did was show there is no aether drag.  It implies one of two scenarios -- either aether doesn't exist, or aether is static with respect to the earth.  If it's the latter, then it doesn't explain stellar abberation.  On the other hand, what does explain stellar abberation?  An earth that moves.

2.  Read again until you get it.  I even linked a video clip for you previously in this thread demonstrating exactly what is happening.  We use solar time, so there is no reason why the sun would ever be up at midnight.  You were confused by your own image which you posted pages back where it shows the earth oriented in the same direction no matter where it is located in it's orbit around the sun.  That's not how it works.  There is exactly one more sidereal day per year relative to solar days, meaning that after 1/2 sidereal year the earth is oriented in the opposite direction, but is still facing the sun.  I understand if you have difficulty holding more than one concept in your head at a time and get pissed at those who can.

3. Do you like being dumb?

1. Considering that stellar aberration is in direct contradiction to observation I'd say that it's a flawed attempt to explain away the fact the Earth is not in motion.

2. "The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies – all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth." -- 1984

3. You're the one promoting doublethink and claiming a day has less than 24 hours...

1. No, it isn't.  Where'd you get an idea like that?

2.  Yes, I read 1984 too.  Good book.  Doesn't help you here, though.

3.  You're applying "doublethink" incorrectly."  Doublethink is like your prior image that combines a heliocentric model of the solar system with an earth that doesn't rotate.
legendary
Activity: 2212
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January 08, 2016, 08:23:40 PM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!

image

"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman

image



Actually, the bulge in the earth due to the centrifugal force of rotation makes the earth bulge slightly at its equator. Because the land masses of the northern and southern hemispheres are not equal, the earth gets a shape that is slightly like that of a pear. The amount of bulge difference is only about 5%, so it would barely be noticeable.

Smiley

The Airy's failure experiment and the fact the Sun isn't overhead at midnight every 180 days is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Earth is not rotating or in motion. But please, do tell us about how you prefer to ignore these facts and believe that the Earth is like a fruit.

1) Wrongly interpreting Airy's failure isn't proof of anything except poor inference.

2) Lol @ sun not being overhead at midnight after ~1/2 year.  It's probably a good idea to understand what you're arguing against before making a claim against it.  After 1/2 year, the Earth is facing the other side of the sun having rotated halfway around it, oriented the other way in relation to the stars, explained by the cumulative difference between sidereal and solar time over the same period of time, which is ~12 hours.  In other words, after 1/2 year a given location on earth is oriented the same way towards the sun, but is oriented the opposite way to the celestial sky (stars).  We use solar time so day and night don't get screwed up.  If we used sidereal time, only then would we have the problem you're suggesting.

1. Either the Earth is rotating or it's motionless and the stars are moving; Airy's failure experiment conclusively proves that it's the stars that are in motion.

2. A day has absolutely nothing to do with stars or sidereal time, the length of a day is 24 hours and involves only the Earth and the Sun; you've got no argument here.

3. Is your favorite animal also carrot?

1.  No, all it did was show there is no aether drag.  It implies one of two scenarios -- either aether doesn't exist, or aether is static with respect to the earth.  If it's the latter, then it doesn't explain stellar abberation.  On the other hand, what does explain stellar abberation?  An earth that moves.

2.  Read again until you get it.  I even linked a video clip for you previously in this thread demonstrating exactly what is happening.  We use solar time, so there is no reason why the sun would ever be up at midnight.  You were confused by your own image which you posted pages back where it shows the earth oriented in the same direction no matter where it is located in it's orbit around the sun.  That's not how it works.  There is exactly one more sidereal day per year relative to solar days, meaning that after 1/2 sidereal year the earth is oriented in the opposite direction, but is still facing the sun.  I understand if you have difficulty holding more than one concept in your head at a time and get pissed at those who can.

3. Do you like being dumb?

1. Considering that stellar aberration is in direct contradiction to observation I'd say that it's a flawed attempt to explain away the fact the Earth is not in motion.

2. "The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies – all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth." -- 1984

3. You're the one promoting doublethink and claiming a day has less than 24 hours...
legendary
Activity: 1834
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January 08, 2016, 07:45:56 PM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!

image

"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman

image



Actually, the bulge in the earth due to the centrifugal force of rotation makes the earth bulge slightly at its equator. Because the land masses of the northern and southern hemispheres are not equal, the earth gets a shape that is slightly like that of a pear. The amount of bulge difference is only about 5%, so it would barely be noticeable.

Smiley

The Airy's failure experiment and the fact the Sun isn't overhead at midnight every 180 days is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Earth is not rotating or in motion. But please, do tell us about how you prefer to ignore these facts and believe that the Earth is like a fruit.

1) Wrongly interpreting Airy's failure isn't proof of anything except poor inference.

2) Lol @ sun not being overhead at midnight after ~1/2 year.  It's probably a good idea to understand what you're arguing against before making a claim against it.  After 1/2 year, the Earth is facing the other side of the sun having rotated halfway around it, oriented the other way in relation to the stars, explained by the cumulative difference between sidereal and solar time over the same period of time, which is ~12 hours.  In other words, after 1/2 year a given location on earth is oriented the same way towards the sun, but is oriented the opposite way to the celestial sky (stars).  We use solar time so day and night don't get screwed up.  If we used sidereal time, only then would we have the problem you're suggesting.

1. Either the Earth is rotating or it's motionless and the stars are moving; Airy's failure experiment conclusively proves that it's the stars that are in motion.

2. A day has absolutely nothing to do with stars or sidereal time, the length of a day is 24 hours and involves only the Earth and the Sun; you've got no argument here.

3. Is your favorite animal also carrot?

1.  No, all it did was show there is no ether drag.  It implies one of two scenarios -- either ether doesn't exist, or ether is static with respect to the earth.  If it's the latter, then it doesn't explain stellar abberation.  On the other hand, what does explain stellar abberation?  An earth that moves.

2.  Read again until you get it.  I even linked a video clip for you previously in this thread demonstrating exactly what is happening.  We use solar time, so there is no reason why the sun would ever be up at midnight.  You were confused by your own image which you posted pages back where it shows the earth oriented in the same direction no matter where it is located in it's orbit around the sun.  That's not how it works.  There is exactly one more sidereal day per year relative to solar days, meaning that after 1/2 sidereal year the earth is oriented in the opposite direction, but is still facing the sun.  I understand if you have difficulty holding more than one concept in your head at a time and get pissed at those who can.

3. Do you like being dumb?
legendary
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January 08, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
Airy's Failure wasn't a failure because of what it proved or didn't prove. Airy's Failure is a failure with everyone, including Airy, who thinks that it proved or didn't prove something.

Smiley
legendary
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January 08, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!

image

"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman

image



Actually, the bulge in the earth due to the centrifugal force of rotation makes the earth bulge slightly at its equator. Because the land masses of the northern and southern hemispheres are not equal, the earth gets a shape that is slightly like that of a pear. The amount of bulge difference is only about 5%, so it would barely be noticeable.

Smiley

The Airy's failure experiment and the fact the Sun isn't overhead at midnight every 180 days is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Earth is not rotating or in motion. But please, do tell us about how you prefer to ignore these facts and believe that the Earth is like a fruit.

Must I go over this with you again?

Airy's Failure was only a failure for those who believe it was a failure. It is a great idea, but it wasn't carried out on a scale that would prove anything.

In addition, if you are an ether believer, there is no way that Airy's Failure applies, because we haven't built up enough information about the ether to know what its nature is.

You have yourself a great religion going there. How long do you think it will take to become a recognized minority so you can get government funding?

Smiley

1. Airy's failure is called this because like the Michelson-Morley experiment it failed to prove the motion of the Earth though the æther. The intention of the experiment had nothing to do with proving weather the Earth was in motion or not and was focused solely on discerning the nature of æther. The fact is however, this experiment when applied to the question of weather Earth is in motion or not is definitive proof that the Earth is motionless.

2. This has nothing to do with æther, we're appropriating this experiment for another purpose here.

3. This has nothing to do with faith or religion, in case you haven't clued in yet we're discussing the results of a scientific experiment involving the measurement of light entering a telescope.

legendary
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January 08, 2016, 05:46:52 PM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!

image

"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman

image



Actually, the bulge in the earth due to the centrifugal force of rotation makes the earth bulge slightly at its equator. Because the land masses of the northern and southern hemispheres are not equal, the earth gets a shape that is slightly like that of a pear. The amount of bulge difference is only about 5%, so it would barely be noticeable.

Smiley

The Airy's failure experiment and the fact the Sun isn't overhead at midnight every 180 days is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Earth is not rotating or in motion. But please, do tell us about how you prefer to ignore these facts and believe that the Earth is like a fruit.

1) Wrongly interpreting Airy's failure isn't proof of anything except poor inference.

2) Lol @ sun not being overhead at midnight after ~1/2 year.  It's probably a good idea to understand what you're arguing against before making a claim against it.  After 1/2 year, the Earth is facing the other side of the sun having rotated halfway around it, oriented the other way in relation to the stars, explained by the cumulative difference between sidereal and solar time over the same period of time, which is ~12 hours.  In other words, after 1/2 year a given location on earth is oriented the same way towards the sun, but is oriented the opposite way to the celestial sky (stars).  We use solar time so day and night don't get screwed up.  If we used sidereal time, only then would we have the problem you're suggesting.

1. Either the Earth is rotating or it's motionless and the stars are moving; Airy's failure experiment conclusively proves that it's the stars that are in motion.

2. A day has absolutely nothing to do with stars or sidereal time, the length of a day is 24 hours and involves only the Earth and the Sun; you've got no argument here.

3. Is your favorite animal also carrot?
legendary
Activity: 3906
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January 08, 2016, 05:39:56 PM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!

image

"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman

image



Actually, the bulge in the earth due to the centrifugal force of rotation makes the earth bulge slightly at its equator. Because the land masses of the northern and southern hemispheres are not equal, the earth gets a shape that is slightly like that of a pear. The amount of bulge difference is only about 5%, so it would barely be noticeable.

Smiley

The Airy's failure experiment and the fact the Sun isn't overhead at midnight every 180 days is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Earth is not rotating or in motion. But please, do tell us about how you prefer to ignore these facts and believe that the Earth is like a fruit.

Must I go over this with you again?

Airy's Failure was only a failure for those who believe it was a failure. It is a great idea, but it wasn't carried out on a scale that would prove anything.

In addition, if you are an ether believer, there is no way that Airy's Failure applies, because we haven't built up enough information about the ether to know what its nature is.

You have yourself a great religion going there. How long do you think it will take to become a recognized minority so you can get government funding?

Smiley
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January 08, 2016, 05:37:28 PM
I did some research and actually, skyscraper architects do take in consideration the rotation speed of earth when designing tall buildings.

It is not relevant for small buildings because the lower atmosphere  is not rotating fast.
legendary
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January 08, 2016, 02:50:01 PM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!

image

"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman

image



Actually, the bulge in the earth due to the centrifugal force of rotation makes the earth bulge slightly at its equator. Because the land masses of the northern and southern hemispheres are not equal, the earth gets a shape that is slightly like that of a pear. The amount of bulge difference is only about 5%, so it would barely be noticeable.

Smiley

The Airy's failure experiment and the fact the Sun isn't overhead at midnight every 180 days is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Earth is not rotating or in motion. But please, do tell us about how you prefer to ignore these facts and believe that the Earth is like a fruit.

1) Wrongly interpreting Airy's failure isn't proof of anything except poor inference.

2) Lol @ sun not being overhead at midnight after ~1/2 year.  It's probably a good idea to understand what you're arguing against before making a claim against it.  After 1/2 year, the Earth is facing the other side of the sun having rotated halfway around it, oriented the other way in relation to the stars, explained by the cumulative difference between sidereal and solar time over the same period of time, which is ~12 hours.  In other words, after 1/2 year a given location on earth is oriented the same way towards the sun, but is oriented the opposite way to the celestial sky (stars).  We use solar time so day and night don't get screwed up.  If we used sidereal time, only then would we have the problem you're suggesting.
legendary
Activity: 2212
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January 08, 2016, 12:20:50 AM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!

image

"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman

image



Actually, the bulge in the earth due to the centrifugal force of rotation makes the earth bulge slightly at its equator. Because the land masses of the northern and southern hemispheres are not equal, the earth gets a shape that is slightly like that of a pear. The amount of bulge difference is only about 5%, so it would barely be noticeable.

Smiley

The Airy's failure experiment and the fact the Sun isn't overhead at midnight every 180 days is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Earth is not rotating or in motion. But please, do tell us about how you prefer to ignore these facts and believe that the Earth is like a fruit.
newbie
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January 07, 2016, 11:10:29 PM
Totally agree - Earth IS flat.

All yours, Peter from The Holly Inquisition
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 10:45:29 PM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!

image

"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman

image



Actually, the bulge in the earth due to the centrifugal force of rotation makes the earth bulge slightly at its equator. Because the land masses of the northern and southern hemispheres are not equal, the earth gets a shape that is slightly like that of a pear. The amount of bulge difference is only about 5%, so it would barely be noticeable.

Smiley
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 08:17:08 PM
Kids Now Taught That Earth is a Fruit!



"chuby's a good word, it's like pear shaped" -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson, NASA spokesman



legendary
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January 06, 2016, 09:41:14 PM
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Roll Eyes

All the engineers will now switch to this brand new masterpiece model from naza.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpvj_ePTG5E  Grin Huh Grin

I really enjoy watching these videos.



Just like to visit  this thread now and then.
The few globist shills remaining must be very low level masons, completely clueless.  
Even the daily crossword gives "firmament" as the correct answer these days.
It is a wanted and needed to enforce nwo by the rulers.
Must be though being stuck on low level  Roll Eyes
and truely suck trying tu suck your way up.

Well, you are close. We globalists are not low level masons, as you suggest. Rather, we are high level mesons. That's why we know that the universe exists as the standard globe earth model expresses.

 Grin
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Yin Yang religion of wisdom, harmony
January 06, 2016, 05:42:14 PM
Quote
Roll Eyes

All the engineers will now switch to this brand new masterpiece model from naza.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpvj_ePTG5E  Grin Huh Grin

I really enjoy watching these videos.



Just like to visit  this thread now and then.
The few globist shills remaining must be very low level masons, completely clueless.  
Even the daily crossword gives "firmament" as the correct answer these days.
It is a wanted and needed to enforce nwo by the rulers.
Must be though being stuck on low level  Roll Eyes
and truely suck trying tu suck your way up.
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