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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 08:44:28 PM

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 08:41:05 PM

I have a hard time see how you can not be satisfied by the latest post. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPEND OVER A MONTH AGO ON A DIFFERENT SITE (basically). A BUG. THERE WAS NO INTENTION TO FUCK ANYONE OVER, THE NEW SITE HAS BEEN IMPROVED ON BOTH SAFETY AND BUGS HAS BEEN FIXED. THE GAME IS FAIR TO THE PLAYERS, AS IT ALWAYS WAS INTENDED TO BE!

I am defending the site not because of the finiancial situation (I have it fixed - but it's fun to see it grow) but because I want my friend to succeed here. You know, compassion.

The facts you are talking about are on a site one month old; instead of looking backwards why not look at the current, fixed site? You are saying there is no trustworthiness, there are still good people on the internet and it will be proven within a few days that the site is here to stay.

Here's an extreme example: if the people behind MtGox opened up a new bitcoin exchange, would you use it?

I wouldn't.. my first "advice" I got when get into bitcoin were to avoid Mt.Gox at all costs..
But the problem with Mt.Gox is that their really not care at all to fix their issues.

We have spent whole february to fix these issiues, so the players can have a good experience when playing on our site.

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Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 08:41:05 PM

I have a hard time see how you can not be satisfied by the latest post. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPEND OVER A MONTH AGO ON A DIFFERENT SITE (basically). A BUG. THERE WAS NO INTENTION TO FUCK ANYONE OVER, THE NEW SITE HAS BEEN IMPROVED ON BOTH SAFETY AND BUGS HAS BEEN FIXED. THE GAME IS FAIR TO THE PLAYERS, AS IT ALWAYS WAS INTENDED TO BE!

I am defending the site not because of the finiancial situation (I have it fixed - but it's fun to see it grow) but because I want my friend to succeed here. You know, compassion.

The facts you are talking about are on a site one month old; instead of looking backwards why not look at the current, fixed site? You are saying there is no trustworthiness, there are still good people on the internet and it will be proven within a few days that the site is here to stay.

Here's an extreme example: if the people behind MtGox opened up a new bitcoin exchange, would you use it?

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 08:27:36 PM

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 08:15:33 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 07:49:33 PM

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 07:37:25 PM

But as previously stated I don't know much about the 1st launch and from what he told me the adresses are 100% anomynous, even for him. The adresses are 100% anomynous, not even he can see information about it. Him being a good programmer doesnt make him top PR or making 100% right decisions.

You are giving an excuse that doesn't have any bearing on what I said, though.

He said "nobody deposited". That wasn't the truth. If he had said "people deposited but I don't know who they are", then THAT would have been the truth. But nobody was talking about connecting deposits to wallets.

Well, I can't defend a lie. But I think lie in the sense is the wrong term here, even tho it's less complicated to say; he couldn't track the adresses back at tand focused on upgrading the site instead so nothing similar happend agian. Not being familiar with forums and how much damage it can cause he chose an easy path -it was an excuse for not having any way of tracking back the money (he told me this recently). Misstakes were made, but fixed and now everything is out in the open, the very little things that werent. This site is 100% in it to win it, I could bet my own kidney on that. He is investing more than an additional $5k for starting money this Tuesday just in case a burst of people.

I have a percentage of the site because I did some monkey work and I would not invest my time in short term scam bullshit instead of daytrading up bitcoins. Yes, misstakes were made, misstakes were fixed and the site has been completly rewamped (altho it's still anomynous, 100%!) so be careful not loosing the cookies (it says in the FAQ). Your money is back, he has checked the code to see if there is any way to track back the other user; turned out to be futile, if anyone steps forward with the transaction chain.

I understand the response that he (and now you) have given, I'm just saying that it's unsatisfactory. Because of the way that the site has operated, there is no way that it can be seen as trustworthy going forward, IMO.

I understand that the people who have a vested financial interest in the site are going to say "no, it's legit we prooooooomise". That's expected. I'd rather look at facts and proof then listen to promises.

I have a hard time see how you can not be satisfied by the latest post. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPEND OVER A MONTH AGO ON A DIFFERENT SITE (basically). A BUG. THERE WAS NO INTENTION TO FUCK ANYONE OVER, THE NEW SITE HAS BEEN IMPROVED ON BOTH SAFETY AND BUGS HAS BEEN FIXED. THE GAME IS FAIR TO THE PLAYERS, AS IT ALWAYS WAS INTENDED TO BE!

I am defending the site not because of the finiancial situation (I have it fixed - but it's fun to see it grow) but because I want my friend to succeed here. You know, compassion.

The facts you are talking about are on a site one month OLD, LOT of code has been changed, holes has been plugged and bugs fixed? You are saying there is no trustworthiness, there are still good people on the internet and it will be proven within a few days that the site is here to stay.

One deposit so far we'll see if he makes an appearance in the thread.

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Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 08:15:33 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 07:49:33 PM

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 07:37:25 PM

But as previously stated I don't know much about the 1st launch and from what he told me the adresses are 100% anomynous, even for him. The adresses are 100% anomynous, not even he can see information about it. Him being a good programmer doesnt make him top PR or making 100% right decisions.

You are giving an excuse that doesn't have any bearing on what I said, though.

He said "nobody deposited". That wasn't the truth. If he had said "people deposited but I don't know who they are", then THAT would have been the truth. But nobody was talking about connecting deposits to wallets.

Well, I can't defend a lie. But I think lie in the sense is the wrong term here, even tho it's less complicated to say; he couldn't track the adresses back at tand focused on upgrading the site instead so nothing similar happend agian. Not being familiar with forums and how much damage it can cause he chose an easy path -it was an excuse for not having any way of tracking back the money (he told me this recently). Misstakes were made, but fixed and now everything is out in the open, the very little things that werent. This site is 100% in it to win it, I could bet my own kidney on that. He is investing more than an additional $5k for starting money this Tuesday just in case a burst of people.

I have a percentage of the site because I did some monkey work and I would not invest my time in short term scam bullshit instead of daytrading up bitcoins. Yes, misstakes were made, misstakes were fixed and the site has been completly rewamped (altho it's still anomynous, 100%!) so be careful not loosing the cookies (it says in the FAQ). Your money is back, he has checked the code to see if there is any way to track back the other user; turned out to be futile, if anyone steps forward with the transaction chain.

I understand the response that he (and now you) have given, I'm just saying that it's unsatisfactory. Because of the way that the site has operated, there is no way that it can be seen as trustworthy going forward, IMO.

I understand that the people who have a vested financial interest in the site are going to say "no, it's legit we prooooooomise". That's expected. I'd rather look at facts and proof then listen to promises.

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 07:49:33 PM

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 07:37:25 PM

But as previously stated I don't know much about the 1st launch and from what he told me the adresses are 100% anomynous, even for him. The adresses are 100% anomynous, not even he can see information about it. Him being a good programmer doesnt make him top PR or making 100% right decisions.

You are giving an excuse that doesn't have any bearing on what I said, though.

He said "nobody deposited". That wasn't the truth. If he had said "people deposited but I don't know who they are", then THAT would have been the truth. But nobody was talking about connecting deposits to wallets.

Well, I can't defend a lie. But I think lie in the sense is the wrong term here, even tho it's less complicated to say; he couldn't track the adresses back at tand focused on upgrading the site instead so nothing similar happend agian. Not being familiar with forums and how much damage it can cause he chose an easy path -it was an excuse for not having any way of tracking back the money (he told me this recently). Misstakes were made, but fixed and now everything is out in the open, the very little things that werent. This site is 100% in it to win it, I could bet my own kidney on that. He is investing more than an additional $5k for starting money this Tuesday just in case a burst of people.

I have a percentage of the site because I did some monkey work and I would not invest my time in short term scam bullshit instead of daytrading up bitcoins. Yes, misstakes were made, misstakes were fixed and the site has been completly rewamped (altho it's still anomynous, 100%!) so be careful not loosing the cookies (it says in the FAQ). Your money is back, he has checked the code to see if there is any way to track back the other user; turned out to be futile, if anyone steps forward with the transaction chain.

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 07:46:41 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 07:28:57 PM

I really wish that the past would "disappear" and we can continue on. As you see I have refunded you.
If you had feeling like you got "robbed" by our site you should have contacted our support at: [email protected]

Or you just could make an post in this thread and we would sort this out sooner.

If anyone else got their deposits lost please reply to this. As I said before, we can't connect any deposit to a specific person because we have designed the whole system to be "anonymous".
We just wan't a fresh restart.. and I know we have a bad history. But many of these gamble sites always went into trouble during this "early stage".

As I've said, the money isn't the point, I just wanted to see if you would do the right thing on your own.

You didn't.

I wanted to see if you would tell the truth about your site.

You didn't.

The past doesn't disappear because it gives insight into the future. Why would anyone trust you now when you've been so untrustworthy before?

That's why I'm trying to do the only thing that's right. I will look through all our transactions and see if there's any other deposits that have been made during this period. There's many transactions that doesn't involve FlipPoker, so it will take some time to get a grip on this.

Regards.

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Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 07:37:25 PM

But as previously stated I don't know much about the 1st launch and from what he told me the adresses are 100% anomynous, even for him. The adresses are 100% anomynous, not even he can see information about it. Him being a good programmer doesnt make him top PR or making 100% right decisions.

You are giving an excuse that doesn't have any bearing on what I said, though.

He said "nobody deposited". That wasn't the truth. If he had said "people deposited but I don't know who they are", then THAT would have been the truth. But nobody was talking about connecting deposits to wallets.

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Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 07:28:57 PM

I really wish that the past would "disappear" and we can continue on. As you see I have refunded you.
If you had feeling like you got "robbed" by our site you should have contacted our support at: [email protected]

Or you just could make an post in this thread and we would sort this out sooner.

If anyone else got their deposits lost please reply to this. As I said before, we can't connect any deposit to a specific person because we have designed the whole system to be "anonymous".
We just wan't a fresh restart.. and I know we have a bad history. But many of these gamble sites always went into trouble during this "early stage".

As I've said, the money isn't the point, I just wanted to see if you would do the right thing on your own.

You didn't.

I wanted to see if you would tell the truth about your site.

You didn't.

The past doesn't disappear because it gives insight into the future. Why would anyone trust you now when you've been so untrustworthy before?

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 07:24:54 PM

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 07:06:19 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:23:51 PM

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 06:17:35 PM

Why should people trust a site that was (and still is in development, but so is every other gambling site)? Well shit happens, when realized it was taken down (and it did not take too long). I just deposited money and it works fine.

This is a brand new site with proper balance between the player and the house (like PrimeDice for instance).

P.S If you already know something and aren't sharing you are a real dick. We need more gambling sites for Bitcoin that are stable, you should help out if you have information.

You are blindly defending your friend. None of what you say matters to me because it has no substance. Your friend has a history of (in his words) "unfair" behavior. He is continuing to dodge questions, say half-truths, and act oddly.

The onus is on him to prove that his site is legit. I'm asking him to do so, and to answer some unanswered questions. This should be very easy to do. Having a healthy skepticism is important when dealing with unknown gambling games, and nothing that I'm asking is unfair or out of bounds.

Well I can tell you this: PR isn't really his strong side and he made this site on his own during his free time. He is not familiar with fourms (at all), (if in he already answered you earlier he wont bother writing that down because you know it). But I do agree with you that questions shouldn't be avoided unless there is reason for it.

This whole is a hobby for him, a hobby that hopefully will generate some cash, while at the same time allowing people to play carcd. He works 8 hours a day with programming and has for several years now - he makes over $4k a month, petty theft is really not required. He has a genuine interest for programming and wants to get somwhere - having the #1 card gambling site would mean more than the money being made as it's a very large achievemenet and ofc it's what almost eveyrone strives for - being the best in what they like to spend time doing.

I dont know anything about the first incident, I know that it launched and that something went wrong - but should any BTC be find missing I'm sure it will be payed back.

You are making this worse for your buddy.

If he's such a brilliant programmer then there is no reason for him to have been dishonest about the house edge initially.
If he's such a brilliant programmer then there is no reason for him to have been dishonest about deposits.

His history is bad. Could the site be legit now? Of course it could. But why would anyone trust it to try?

No there is no reason for that - I haven't claimed that either. But as previously stated I don't know much about the 1st launch and from what he told me the adresses are 100% anomynous, even for him. The adresses are 100% anomynous, not even he can see information about it. Him being a good programmer doesnt make him top PR or making 100% right decisions.

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 07:22:24 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 07:04:38 PM

I'm not hiding for the truth, our site is totally anonymous and it's almost impossible to know which coins belongs to a specific person. If something have gone bad we will fix it.
I hope you see us as fair enough after we have refunded you. We wan't to be legit site.

So we do the right by our users.

I don't see you as fair enough, no. You were not truthful about your house edge. You were not truthful about how many people had deposited. You refunded me after a month of holding the coins and after lying about receiving my deposit. How do I know that there aren't other people who have deposited that never received a refund? It's not the cost, obviously, it's the principal. If you are dishonest about .002, why should I expect you to be honest about larger amounts?

You have shown that, AT BEST, you are bad at running a business. You avoid questions and then answer them dishonestly. I don't know why you'd expect people to think you are legit.

I really wish that the past would "disappear" and we can continue on. As you see I have refunded you.
If you had the feeling like you got "robbed" by our site you should have contacted our support at: [email protected]

Or you just could make an post in this thread and we would sort this out sooner.

If anyone else got their deposits lost please reply to this. As I said before, we can't connect any deposit to a specific person because we have designed the whole system to be "anonymous".
We just wan't a fresh restart.. and I know we have a bad history. But many of these gamble sites always went into trouble during this "early stage".

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Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 07:06:19 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:23:51 PM

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 06:17:35 PM

Why should people trust a site that was (and still is in development, but so is every other gambling site)? Well shit happens, when realized it was taken down (and it did not take too long). I just deposited money and it works fine.

This is a brand new site with proper balance between the player and the house (like PrimeDice for instance).

P.S If you already know something and aren't sharing you are a real dick. We need more gambling sites for Bitcoin that are stable, you should help out if you have information.

You are blindly defending your friend. None of what you say matters to me because it has no substance. Your friend has a history of (in his words) "unfair" behavior. He is continuing to dodge questions, say half-truths, and act oddly.

The onus is on him to prove that his site is legit. I'm asking him to do so, and to answer some unanswered questions. This should be very easy to do. Having a healthy skepticism is important when dealing with unknown gambling games, and nothing that I'm asking is unfair or out of bounds.

Well I can tell you this: PR isn't really his strong side and he made this site on his own during his free time. He is not familiar with fourms (at all), (if in he already answered you earlier he wont bother writing that down because you know it). But I do agree with you that questions shouldn't be avoided unless there is reason for it.

This whole is a hobby for him, a hobby that hopefully will generate some cash, while at the same time allowing people to play carcd. He works 8 hours a day with programming and has for several years now - he makes over $4k a month, petty theft is really not required. He has a genuine interest for programming and wants to get somwhere - having the #1 card gambling site would mean more than the money being made as it's a very large achievemenet and ofc it's what almost eveyrone strives for - being the best in what they like to spend time doing.

I dont know anything about the first incident, I know that it launched and that something went wrong - but should any BTC be find missing I'm sure it will be payed back.

You are making this worse for your buddy.

If he's such a brilliant programmer then there is no reason for him to have been dishonest about the house edge initially.
If he's such a brilliant programmer then there is no reason for him to have been dishonest about deposits.

His history is bad. Could the site be legit now? Of course it could. But why would anyone trust it to try?

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Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 07:04:38 PM

I'm not hiding for the truth, our site is totally anonymous and it's almost impossible to know which coins belongs to a specific person. If something have gone bad we will fix it.
I hope you see us as fair enough after we have refunded you. We wan't to be legit site.

So we do the right by our users.

I don't see you as fair enough, no. You were not truthful about your house edge. You were not truthful about how many people had deposited. You refunded me after a month of holding the coins and after lying about receiving my deposit. How do I know that there aren't other people who have deposited that never received a refund? It's not the cost, obviously, it's the principal. If you are dishonest about .002, why should I expect you to be honest about larger amounts?

You have shown that, AT BEST, you are bad at running a business. You avoid questions and then answer them dishonestly. I don't know why you'd expect people to think you are legit.

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:23:51 PM

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 06:17:35 PM

Why should people trust a site that was (and still is in development, but so is every other gambling site)? Well shit happens, when realized it was taken down (and it did not take too long). I just deposited money and it works fine.

This is a brand new site with proper balance between the player and the house (like PrimeDice for instance).

P.S If you already know something and aren't sharing you are a real dick. We need more gambling sites for Bitcoin that are stable, you should help out if you have information.

You are blindly defending your friend. None of what you say matters to me because it has no substance. Your friend has a history of (in his words) "unfair" behavior. He is continuing to dodge questions, say half-truths, and act oddly.

The onus is on him to prove that his site is legit. I'm asking him to do so, and to answer some unanswered questions. This should be very easy to do. Having a healthy skepticism is important when dealing with unknown gambling games, and nothing that I'm asking is unfair or out of bounds.

Well I can tell you this: PR isn't really his strong side and he made this site on his own during his free time. He is not familiar with fourms (at all), (if in he already answered you earlier he wont bother writing that down because you know it). But I do agree with you that questions shouldn't be avoided unless there is reason for it.

This whole is a hobby for him, a hobby that hopefully will generate some cash, while at the same time allowing people to play carcd. He works 8 hours a day with programming and has for several years now - he makes over $4k a month, petty theft is really not required. He has a genuine interest for programming and wants to get somwhere - having the #1 card gambling site would mean more than the money being made as it's a very large achievemenet and ofc it's what almost eveyrone strives for - being the best in what they like to spend time doing.

I dont know anything about the first incident, I know that it launched and that something went wrong - but should any BTC be find missing I'm sure it will be payed back.

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:57:03 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 06:50:55 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:34:56 PM

text

Hi, now we have looked it up.. and it seems that you're right.

We found this in our transaction history:

Quote

{
   "account" : "a68bf5-4b5c0c-98b949",
   "address" : "1MQG7fBSpMRKUPFV2Z5FWrafsTM8JVkg4D",
   "category" : "receive",
   "amount" : 0.00250000,
   "confirmations" : 5029,
   "blockhash" : "0000000000000001359dc26d2353fe1e1ec328fe5c550d7988d01a658acd65b3",
   "blockindex" : 157,
   "blocktime" : 1391219756,
   "txid" : "fb8cd070b1746ec71c741313d10146c9917d68c425a5a0ddbccf26e75b62d9fd",
   "time" : 1391219437,
   "timereceived" : 1391219437
   }

These coins were never credited into our system, so we never recognised it. That's one part that we have complete re-programmed so it won't happen again.

Please provide me with your Bitcoin address and we will you refund you these 0.0025 BTC.

Best apologize.

1E2UcP6Ag6woTjinCasUbr4CDXtRJN6pkn, the same account that sent the coins.

It seems that you often don't tell the truth, and then come up with an excuse for why you aren't telling the truth. This is a red flag in business.

We have refunded you: https://blockchain.info/sv/tx/86e8529625875b314bda372fe4aafd752c256888308394a9b79075b5fdf2b5f3
(We also gave you an extra 0.0001 BTC for the trouble).

I'm not hiding for the truth, our site is totally anonymous and it's almost impossible to know which coins belongs to a specific person. If something have gone bad we will fix it.
I hope you see us as fair enough after we have refunded you. We wan't to be legit site.

So we do the right by our users.

FUR11

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Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 06:50:55 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:34:56 PM

text

Hi, now we have looked it up.. and it seems that you're right.

We found this in our transaction history:

Quote

{
   "account" : "a68bf5-4b5c0c-98b949",
   "address" : "1MQG7fBSpMRKUPFV2Z5FWrafsTM8JVkg4D",
   "category" : "receive",
   "amount" : 0.00250000,
   "confirmations" : 5029,
   "blockhash" : "0000000000000001359dc26d2353fe1e1ec328fe5c550d7988d01a658acd65b3",
   "blockindex" : 157,
   "blocktime" : 1391219756,
   "txid" : "fb8cd070b1746ec71c741313d10146c9917d68c425a5a0ddbccf26e75b62d9fd",
   "time" : 1391219437,
   "timereceived" : 1391219437
   }

These coins were never credited into our system, so we never recognised it. That's one part that we have complete re-programmed so it won't happen again.

Please provide me with your Bitcoin address and we will you refund you these 0.0025 BTC.

Best apologize.

1E2UcP6Ag6woTjinCasUbr4CDXtRJN6pkn, the same account that sent the coins.

It seems that you often don't tell the truth, and then come up with an excuse for why you aren't telling the truth. This is a red flag in business.

FlipPoker

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:34:56 PM

text

Hi, now we have looked it up.. and it seems that you're right.

We found this in our transaction history:

Quote

{
   "account" : "a68bf5-4b5c0c-98b949",
   "address" : "1MQG7fBSpMRKUPFV2Z5FWrafsTM8JVkg4D",
   "category" : "receive",
   "amount" : 0.00250000,
   "confirmations" : 5029,
   "blockhash" : "0000000000000001359dc26d2353fe1e1ec328fe5c550d7988d01a658acd65b3",
   "blockindex" : 157,
   "blocktime" : 1391219756,
   "txid" : "fb8cd070b1746ec71c741313d10146c9917d68c425a5a0ddbccf26e75b62d9fd",
   "time" : 1391219437,
   "timereceived" : 1391219437
   }

These coins were never credited into our system, so we never recognised it. That's one part that we have complete re-programmed so it won't happen again.

Please provide me with your Bitcoin address and we will you refund you these 0.0025 BTC.

Best apologize.

FlipPoker

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:34:56 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 06:25:52 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:17:15 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 06:01:35 PM

I missed that question about the "restitution" to the players (sorry about that). We actually didn't got any deposits onto the site *sigh* because the site were only up for a couple of days.
I think because all the bad "response" on the forum, so people didn't want to risk a deposit to our site.

Are you 100% positive that that is the truth?

If anyone would have made deposits during the brief time they were open we deeply apologize to them. However we have seen no transactions to the wallet.

Well gee, here's one:

https://blockchain.info/tx/fb8cd070b1746ec71c741313d10146c9917d68c425a5a0ddbccf26e75b62d9fd

And you can see that it looks like it was moved into a different wallet a day and a half later, along with some other funds.

Soooooo you claimed you got 0. There's proof of one. The way the funds were moved implies at least one other. Would you like to revise your claim of "We actually didn't got any deposits onto the site *sigh*"?

If that is true we will look it up. We won't run away with your money.
We will investigate this and come back to you. If that transaction actually made it to our wallet we will refund you.

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Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 06:25:52 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:17:15 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 06:01:35 PM

I missed that question about the "restitution" to the players (sorry about that). We actually didn't got any deposits onto the site *sigh* because the site were only up for a couple of days.
I think because all the bad "response" on the forum, so people didn't want to risk a deposit to our site.

Are you 100% positive that that is the truth?

If anyone would have made deposits during the brief time they were open we deeply apologize to them. However we have seen no transactions to the wallet.

Well gee, here's one:

https://blockchain.info/tx/fb8cd070b1746ec71c741313d10146c9917d68c425a5a0ddbccf26e75b62d9fd

And you can see that it looks like it was moved into a different wallet a day and a half later, along with some other funds.

Soooooo you claimed you got 0. There's proof of one. The way the funds were moved implies at least one other. Would you like to revise your claim of "We actually didn't got any deposits onto the site *sigh*"?

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 06:17:15 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 06:01:35 PM

I missed that question about the "restitution" to the players (sorry about that). We actually didn't got any deposits onto the site *sigh* because the site were only up for a couple of days.
I think because all the bad "response" on the forum, so people didn't want to risk a deposit to our site.

Are you 100% positive that that is the truth?

If anyone would have made deposits during the brief time they were open we deeply apologize to them. However we have seen no transactions to the wallet.

FUR11

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Activity: 378

Merit: 250

FURring bitcoin up since 1762

Quote from: sickhouse on March 01, 2014, 06:17:35 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 05:56:16 PM

I asked three questions, you half answered one. This seems to be a trend with you.

You should come up with a bounty that you can afford, that you feel will properly motivate people to test your site for you. If you are asking for me to give you a suggestion, I'd suggest 1BTC, obviously held in escrow with a trusted escrow.

Here are those three questions one more time, let's hope for some more answers:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

Why should people trust a site that was (and still is in development, but so is every other gambling site)? Well shit happens, when realized it was taken down (and it did not take too long). I just deposited money and it works fine.

This is a brand new site with proper balance between the player and the house (like PrimeDice for instance).

P.S If you already know something and aren't sharing you are a real dick. We need more gambling sites for Bitcoin that are stable, you should help out if you have information.

You are blindly defending your friend. None of what you say matters to me because it has no substance. Your friend has a history of (in his words) "unfair" behavior. He is continuing to dodge questions, say half-truths, and act oddly.

The onus is on him to prove that his site is legit. I'm asking him to do so, and to answer some unanswered questions. This should be very easy to do. Having a healthy skepticism is important when dealing with unknown gambling games, and nothing that I'm asking is unfair or out of bounds.

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