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sickhouse

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 05:56:16 PM

I asked three questions, you half answered one. This seems to be a trend with you.

You should come up with a bounty that you can afford, that you feel will properly motivate people to test your site for you. If you are asking for me to give you a suggestion, I'd suggest 1BTC, obviously held in escrow with a trusted escrow.

Here are those three questions one more time, let's hope for some more answers:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

Why should people trust a site that was (and still is in development, but so is every other gambling site)? Well shit happens, when realized it was taken down (and it did not take too long). I just deposited money and it works fine.

This is a brand new site with proper balance between the player and the house (like PrimeDice for instance).

P.S If you already know something and aren't sharing you are a real dick. We need more gambling sites for Bitcoin that are stable, you should help out if you have information.

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Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 06:01:35 PM

I missed that question about the "restitution" to the players (sorry about that). We actually didn't got any deposits onto the site *sigh* because the site were only up for a couple of days.
I think because all the bad "response" on the forum, so people didn't want to risk a deposit to our site.

Are you 100% positive that that is the truth?

sickhouse

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 05:56:16 PM

I asked three questions, you half answered one. This seems to be a trend with you.

You should come up with a bounty that you can afford, that you feel will properly motivate people to test your site for you. If you are asking for me to give you a suggestion, I'd suggest 1BTC, obviously held in escrow with a trusted escrow.

Here are those three questions one more time, let's hope for some more answers:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

Quit that. Move on. If he would have been up for scamming he would have made a ponzi instead of putting down lots of time on this project. He is thinking about hiring a designer (we have a friend who works with web design).

I honoestly don't know why you keep going on about this. It's a fair site now, we are human humans makes misstakes. Instead of asking for a bounty tell him what's wrong so he can correct it..

FlipPoker

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 05:56:16 PM

I asked three questions, you half answered one. This seems to be a trend with you.

You should come up with a bounty that you can afford, that you feel will properly motivate people to test your site for you. If you are asking for me to give you a suggestion, I'd suggest 1BTC, obviously held in escrow with a trusted escrow.

Here are those three questions one more time, let's hope for some more answers:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

We're a new site.. and a 1 BTC bounty will hurt the total flippoker bankroll really bad (because we're new at the gambling market). We wan't to cover every players winnings.
I have already told you about that we made a huge mistake to even release the site in the first place.

I missed that question about the "restitution" to the players (sorry about that). We actually didn't got any deposits onto the site *sigh* because the site were only up for a couple of days.
I think because all the bad "response" on the forum, so people didn't want to risk a deposit to our site.

We hope we can reverse that trend and get trustworthy.

FUR11

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I asked three questions, you half answered one. This seems to be a trend with you.

You should come up with a bounty that you can afford, that you feel will properly motivate people to test your site for you. If you are asking for me to give you a suggestion, I'd suggest 1BTC, obviously held in escrow with a trusted escrow.

Here are those three questions one more time, let's hope for some more answers:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

sickhouse

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 05:31:55 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 05:27:52 PM

Yes, that's right. I disappeared a month under development and figuring some stuff out to improve this site. I also closed the site during this period. This is not like the old site that was really unfair to the player.
I don't want to be unfair to the players and I want this to be a legit site.

We can call this a "re-launch".

Regards.

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Yes, I admit that we made a BIG mistake when we launched this site from the start.
And we're trying to do it right this time. We hope we will get the communities trust in the future.

If you want you can try it out, there's a faucet where you can earn some free coins to try it out with

Please come with feedback to improve this site, if you have any suggestions it's very appreciated. It's like you trying to ruin this site at the moment Undecided

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You didn't answer either of my questions. Why?
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Then I will give you an straight answer here.

We reduce every multiplier/odds by 1%, that'swhat the "House Edge" is on this site.
Please convince me otherwise.
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This is a complete reboot. He wants a normal gambling site that with player UI allows betting bitcoins.

GO LOOK AT THE PAGE ITS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST SITE! A MISSTAKE WAS MADE BUT HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME CORRECTING THIS AND HAS THE SAME EDGE AS OTHER SITES! HE HAS HAD A MONTH TO FIX THE SITE DURING THE SHUTDOWN!

I am betting my own money (not much but it's some) in my deposit.

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 05:31:55 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 05:27:52 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 05:25:35 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 05:00:38 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:53:46 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 04:44:48 PM

Yes, that's right. I disappeared a month under development and figuring some stuff out to improve this site. I also closed the site during this period. This is not like the old site that was really unfair to the player.
I don't want to be unfair to the players and I want this to be a legit site.

We can call this a "re-launch".

Regards.

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Yes, I admit that we made a BIG mistake when we launched this site from the start.
And we're trying to do it right this time. We hope we will get the communities trust in the future.

If you want you can try it out, there's a faucet where you can earn some free coins to try it out with

Please come with feedback to improve this site, if you have any suggestions it's very appreciated. It's like you trying to ruin this site at the moment Undecided

You didn't answer either of my questions. Why?

Then I will give you an straight answer here.

We reduce every multiplier/odds by 1%, that's what the "House Edge" is on this site.
Please convince me otherwise.

You quoted my questions...and then didn't answer them.

Here they are again:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Also, a bonus question for you (that I asked earlier and you ignored): Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

Note that I'm not claiming that it ISN'T, I'm asking if it's worth my time to find out. You are so far 0/1 on your claims, so I clearly have reason to question.

Those three questions one more time:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

Sure, that sounds fair. If you can prove it that something is wrong here it's actually worth to lose this "bounty" to get it right.
How much are you suggesting?

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Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 05:27:52 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 05:25:35 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 05:00:38 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:53:46 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 04:44:48 PM

Yes, that's right. I disappeared a month under development and figuring some stuff out to improve this site. I also closed the site during this period. This is not like the old site that was really unfair to the player.
I don't want to be unfair to the players and I want this to be a legit site.

We can call this a "re-launch".

Regards.

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Yes, I admit that we made a BIG mistake when we launched this site from the start.
And we're trying to do it right this time. We hope we will get the communities trust in the future.

If you want you can try it out, there's a faucet where you can earn some free coins to try it out with

Please come with feedback to improve this site, if you have any suggestions it's very appreciated. It's like you trying to ruin this site at the moment Undecided

You didn't answer either of my questions. Why?

Then I will give you an straight answer here.

We reduce every multiplier/odds by 1%, that's what the "House Edge" is on this site.
Please convince me otherwise.

You quoted my questions...and then didn't answer them.

Here they are again:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Also, a bonus question for you (that I asked earlier and you ignored): Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

Note that I'm not claiming that it ISN'T, I'm asking if it's worth my time to find out. You are so far 0/1 on your claims, so I clearly have reason to question.

Those three questions one more time:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

FlipPoker

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 05:25:35 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 05:00:38 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:53:46 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 04:44:48 PM

Yes, that's right. I disappeared a month under development and figuring some stuff out to improve this site. I also closed the site during this period. This is not like the old site that was really unfair to the player.
I don't want to be unfair to the players and I want this to be a legit site.

We can call this a "re-launch".

Regards.

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Yes, I admit that we made a BIG mistake when we launched this site from the start.
And we're trying to do it right this time. We hope we will get the communities trust in the future.

If you want you can try it out, there's a faucet where you can earn some free coins to try it out with

Please come with feedback to improve this site, if you have any suggestions it's very appreciated. It's like you trying to ruin this site at the moment Undecided

You didn't answer either of my questions. Why?

Then I will give you an straight answer here.

We reduce every multiplier/odds by 1%, that's what the "House Edge" is on this site.
Please convince me otherwise.

FUR11

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Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 05:00:38 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:53:46 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 04:44:48 PM

Yes, that's right. I disappeared a month under development and figuring some stuff out to improve this site. I also closed the site during this period. This is not like the old site that was really unfair to the player.
I don't want to be unfair to the players and I want this to be a legit site.

We can call this a "re-launch".

Regards.

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Yes, I admit that we made a BIG mistake when we launched this site from the start.
And we're trying to do it right this time. We hope we will get the communities trust in the future.

If you want you can try it out, there's a faucet where you can earn some free coins to try it out with

Please come with feedback to improve this site, if you have any suggestions it's very appreciated. It's like you trying to ruin this site at the moment Undecided

You didn't answer either of my questions. Why?

sickhouse

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http://i.imgur.com/B5PzaLu.jpg checking so deposit works. So far so good.

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:53:46 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 04:44:48 PM

Yes, that's right. I disappeared a month under development and figuring some stuff out to improve this site. I also closed the site during this period. This is not like the old site that was really unfair to the player.
I don't want to be unfair to the players and I want this to be a legit site.

We can call this a "re-launch".

Regards.

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Yes, I admit that we made a BIG mistake when we launched this site from the start.
And we're trying to do it right this time. We hope we will get the communities trust in the future.

If you want you can try it out, there's a faucet where you can earn some free coins to try it out with

Please come with feedback to improve this site, if you have any suggestions it's very appreciated. It's like you trying to ruin this site at the moment Undecided

FUR11

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Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 04:44:48 PM

Yes, that's right. I disappeared a month under development and figuring some stuff out to improve this site. I also closed the site during this period. This is not like the old site that was really unfair to the player.
I don't want to be unfair to the players and I want this to be a legit site.

We can call this a "re-launch".

Regards.

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

FlipPoker

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Merit: 100

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sickhouse

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Hello, I know the creator IRL. He is trying to make a legit gambling site, no cheating with money anywhere. The rules are clear, site has been updated a lot. Trying to covince him to make a bonus for the deposits

FlipPoker

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:40:19 PM

Quote from: Kyraishi on March 01, 2014, 04:36:45 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:25:15 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 02:21:41 PM

Now we are LIVE!
We apologize for the inconvenience before and we hope that our new version of FlipPoker will come in handy.

New features:
Multiplier calculated due to you and yours opponent holding cards.
Claim 100 Satoshi for free to play with from our Faucet once every hour.

Are you still lying about your house edge?

They are lying? by the way, the site is bugging hard.

Read the thread. He claimed his house edge was one thing, I proved that it wasn't, he then basically admitted that he doesn't know what house edge means. I then asked how, if he doesn't understand how math works, he could ensure that the site was so house-friendly aaaaaaaaaaaaaand he disappears for a month.

Yes, that's right. I disappeared a month under development and figuring some stuff out to improve this site. I also closed the site during this period. This is not like the old site that was really unfair to the player.
I don't want to be unfair to the players and I want this to be a legit site.

We can call this a "re-launch".

Regards.

FUR11

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Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 04:39:23 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:25:15 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 02:21:41 PM

Now we are LIVE!
We apologize for the inconvenience before and we hope that our new version of FlipPoker will come in handy.

New features:
Multiplier calculated due to you and yours opponent holding cards.
Claim 100 Satoshi for free to play with from our Faucet once every hour.

Are you still lying about your house edge?

What do you mean? As our FAQ states:
The “1% House Edge” means that 1% is reduced of every multiplier. Let’s say that you got a hand when you got a 50% chance to win the multiplier would be 2. But with the 1% House Edge the multiplier will be 1,98. With some basic mathematics this will be calculated like this: 2 * 0.99 = 1,98

Can you please explain what's wrong with this?

Still in development.

I asked you a question. You responded with a non-answer.

Before, you were lying about the house edge. Are you still lying about the house edge?

Are you claiming that the house edge is 1%? Are you willing to offer a bounty if someone can prove that that is not true?

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Quote from: Kyraishi on March 01, 2014, 04:36:45 PM

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:25:15 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 02:21:41 PM

Now we are LIVE!
We apologize for the inconvenience before and we hope that our new version of FlipPoker will come in handy.

New features:
Multiplier calculated due to you and yours opponent holding cards.
Claim 100 Satoshi for free to play with from our Faucet once every hour.

Are you still lying about your house edge?

They are lying? by the way, the site is bugging hard.

Read the thread. He claimed his house edge was one thing, I proved that it wasn't, he then basically admitted that he doesn't know what house edge means. I then asked how, if he doesn't understand how math works, he could ensure that the site was so house-friendly aaaaaaaaaaaaaand he disappears for a month.

FlipPoker

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Activity: 136

Merit: 100

Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:25:15 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 02:21:41 PM

Now we are LIVE!
We apologize for the inconvenience before and we hope that our new version of FlipPoker will come in handy.

New features:
Multiplier calculated due to you and yours opponent holding cards.
Claim 100 Satoshi for free to play with from our Faucet once every hour.

Are you still lying about your house edge?

What do you mean? As our FAQ states:
The “1% House Edge” means that 1% is reduced of every multiplier. Let’s say that you got a hand when you got a 50% chance to win the multiplier would be 2. But with the 1% House Edge the multiplier will be 1,98. With some basic mathematics this will be calculated like this: 2 * 0.99 = 1,98

Can you please explain what's wrong with this?

Still in development.

Kyraishi

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Quote from: FUR11 on March 01, 2014, 04:25:15 PM

Quote from: FlipPoker on March 01, 2014, 02:21:41 PM

Now we are LIVE!
We apologize for the inconvenience before and we hope that our new version of FlipPoker will come in handy.

New features:
Multiplier calculated due to you and yours opponent holding cards.
Claim 100 Satoshi for free to play with from our Faucet once every hour.

Are you still lying about your house edge?

They are lying? by the way, the site is bugging hard.

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