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Quote from: Helena Yu on June 22, 2023, 03:54:59 AM

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Seriously, it's quite crazy, here's the list of all Chelsea players who have won the Champions League sold or are going to be sold:

- Kai Havertz (just now)
- Kovacic (city)
- Kante (saudi league) <- soon to be followed by Zeyich and Mendy
- RLC
- Mount
- Pulisic
- Kepa ?

And when you consider how even more of Chelsea players left last season, it goes on to show that Chelsea squad really does have a short turnaround.

It's really don't make sense if Chelsea want to sell Kepa too, I heard Mendy will leave Chelsea too, this mean if both Kepa and Mendy leave Chelsea, Chelsea will don't have any good goalkeepers. The other 3 goalkeepers very rarely play, it's better to sell those 3 players rather than let Mendy and Kepa to join other teams.

I just hope Chelsea at least can survive in the next season, if they enter degradation zone, this will be a huge mistake by Pochettino.

It is easy to remember that those players won the champions league seasons ago but it is not easy to remember that those players are also the people that wanted to send Chelsea to relegation this ended season.
I support Pochettino and I believe he has his plans and targets. It is not all about having good players but the big question is of they play together as a team or they play destructively.
Average players playing as a team is better than star players playing solo and greedy football.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on June 22, 2023, 03:54:59 AM

It's really don't make sense if Chelsea want to sell Kepa too, I heard Mendy will leave Chelsea too, this mean if both Kepa and Mendy leave Chelsea, Chelsea will don't have any good goalkeepers. The other 3 goalkeepers very rarely play, it's better to sell those 3 players rather than let Mendy and Kepa to join other teams.

I just hope Chelsea at least can survive in the next season, if they enter degradation zone, this will be a huge mistake by Pochettino.

Pochettino will definitely hold back players he feels can strengthen his team. and letting go of a few that are not in Pochettino's plans won't be a problem.
Chelsea shouldn't be too bad next season. it will indeed be hard work for Pochettino, because indeed there are several players who want to leave the team and some who survive must be optimistic about Pochettino's coaching.
hopefully it will be good, even before the pre-season games they have to be prepared.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 22, 2023, 02:59:44 AM

It looks like Manchester United have also joined the race for Declan Rice. Their deal is likely to be like money + Maguire or McTominay. Maybe not Maguire but McTominay might be favourable by West Ham side. Because Rice is also a defensive midfielder like McTominay so they might find it okay to think about it.

But of course the money part must be convincing for West Ham. Because Arsenal look ready to pay even 100 million euros for Rice now. As far as I have heard West Ham have been demanding around this amount. His market value is already 90 million euros and he is a young and solid player. I'm not surprised with this demand as a result.

After the news said that WHU rejected an offer from Arsenal, Manchester United immediately had the intention to hijack Declane Rice, you're right about the rumors saying that Manchester United also offered 2 players (Maguire and McTominay) apart from money. Of course, this situation is very profitable for WHU, they get money + players.

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Quote from: NotATether on June 22, 2023, 02:54:22 AM

Seriously, it's quite crazy, here's the list of all Chelsea players who have won the Champions League sold or are going to be sold:

- Kai Havertz (just now)
- Kovacic (city)
- Kante (saudi league) <- soon to be followed by Zeyich and Mendy
- RLC
- Mount
- Pulisic
- Kepa ?

And when you consider how even more of Chelsea players left last season, it goes on to show that Chelsea squad really does have a short turnaround.

It's really don't make sense if Chelsea want to sell Kepa too, I heard Mendy will leave Chelsea too, this mean if both Kepa and Mendy leave Chelsea, Chelsea will don't have any good goalkeepers. The other 3 goalkeepers very rarely play, it's better to sell those 3 players rather than let Mendy and Kepa to join other teams.

I just hope Chelsea at least can survive in the next season, if they enter degradation zone, this will be a huge mistake by Pochettino.

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According to reports,Arsenal have competed the signing of Karl Harvetz from Chelsea in a deal worth about 60 million pounds.As an Arsenal fan,I am happy that Arsenal have made a signing in this transfer window,but I'm not happy it's Karl Harvetz,I was watching his pattern of play in YouTube,and I must confess,he might just be another Fabio Vierra in the Arsenal team.He is bought to play in thesame position with Odegard,but I don't see him starting for Arsenal,because at the moment,I don't think he can bench anyone in that starting line up.We have people like Smith Rowe who is fighting to be a regular starter in the squad,and it hasn't been possible following the exceptional form of Martinelli on that wing.Nevertheless,it is not bad because he would add depth to the young squad.

I am not happy with the signing. He’s not my ideal signing and I don’t understand his position in the team. But I think Arteta likes him. He is in the age bracket Arteta likes. I think he is 24. Thierry Henry describes him as having similar traits to RVP. Let's hope he fulfils his potentials in Arsenal just like Odegaard is currently is. I am glad he is used to the EPL speed. That matters to me. At the end of the day his performance will give the final verdict and justify the teams decision to recruit him.

I think Arsenal have done a great job of signing Kai Havertz and for a fee of £65m it doesn't seem like such a big deal for a talent who failed to thrive at his previous club. We know that with Chelsea, Havertz seemed confused about adapting to his coach's style of play and he was often used as a striker, even though his original position was AMF.

Maybe Arteta does have other views on maximizing the talents possessed by Havertz, that's why Arsenal really want to get him. Now a new challenge with a new team will start in the EPL next season for Kai Havertz, of course he doesn't want to experience the same season as last season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 22, 2023, 02:59:44 AM

It looks like Manchester United have also joined the race for Declan Rice. Their deal is likely to be like money + Maguire or McTominay. Maybe not Maguire but McTominay might be favourable by West Ham side. Because Rice is also a defensive midfielder like McTominay so they might find it okay to think about it.

But of course the money part must be convincing for West Ham. Because Arsenal look ready to pay even 100 million euros for Rice now. As far as I have heard West Ham have been demanding around this amount. His market value is already 90 million euros and he is a young and solid player. I'm not surprised with this demand as a result.

Yes, I had the speculation that Manchester United are said to be keen on pushing a swap deal in order to entice West Ham into parting with Declan Rice. If that is the case, Arsenal would have done this a long time ago with either Nketiah, Emile smith Rowe or Balogun. West ham only want to sell and Arsenal have already made two club record offers. Rice is seen as Arsenal’s priority signing and the player only wants a move to Arsenal. So I expect Westham to honor their 3rd bid.

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Quote from: uswa56 on June 22, 2023, 02:12:27 AM

Sandro Tonali is a very good young player, he is still very young 23 years old but I think 80m€ is quite expensive.
Newcastle is indeed a team that currently has a lot of money and their success in qualifying for the UCL next season makes this team have to improve even better for next season, of course if they buy players at high prices create high expectations for these players to show good performance.
If this transfer occurs, AC Milan will be very profitable, by getting fresh funds of 80m € of course they can spend on other players to be able to fill the void left by Tonali.

I would have never expected it. Just yesterday, I was talking to my friend about Milan's transfer market, and by chance, we started discussing Tonali, with him saying, "I can already imagine Tonali retiring at Milan in his forties." Just a few hours later, in the evening, the first rumors about Sandro's transfer started to emerge. I don't know how to express it other than it being completely unexpected. It's a lot of sadness and disappointment, but these are choices that many are making nowadays. After losing two symbolic figures like Maldini and Massara, Milan is now losing one of the team's pillars, Tonali. I think that if Maldini had been there, this negotiation would not have taken off. Now we hope that the club knows how to manage and invest the proceeds in the best way, although I have strong doubts.

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It looks like Manchester United have also joined the race for Declan Rice. Their deal is likely to be like money + Maguire or McTominay. Maybe not Maguire but McTominay might be favourable by West Ham side. Because Rice is also a defensive midfielder like McTominay so they might find it okay to think about it.

But of course the money part must be convincing for West Ham. Because Arsenal look ready to pay even 100 million euros for Rice now. As far as I have heard West Ham have been demanding around this amount. His market value is already 90 million euros and he is a young and solid player. I'm not surprised with this demand as a result.

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Quote from: hashrateproducts on June 21, 2023, 07:16:02 PM

According to reports,Arsenal have competed the signing of Karl Harvetz from Chelsea in a deal worth about 60 million pounds.As an Arsenal fan,I am happy that Arsenal have made a signing in this transfer window,but I'm not happy it's Karl Harvetz,I was watching his pattern of play in YouTube,and I must confess,he might just be another Fabio Vierra in the Arsenal team.He is bought to play in thesame position with Odegard,but I don't see him starting for Arsenal,because at the moment,I don't think he can bench anyone in that starting line up.We have people like Smith Rowe who is fighting to be a regular starter in the squad,and it hasn't been possible following the exceptional form of Martinelli on that wing.Nevertheless,it is not bad because he would add depth to the young squad.

Exodus of the 2020-21 CL winners squad commences Shocked

Seriously, it's quite crazy, here's the list of all Chelsea players who have won the Champions League sold or are going to be sold:

- Kai Havertz (just now)
- Kovacic (city)
- Kante (saudi league) <- soon to be followed by Zeyich and Mendy
- RLC
- Mount
- Pulisic
- Kepa ?

And when you consider how even more of Chelsea players left last season, it goes on to show that Chelsea squad really does have a short turnaround.

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The latest news that has broken the speculation about Gundogan's future, Gundogan has now signed a two-year contract with Barcelona and the agreement between the two parties has been completed. With Barcelona officially withdrawing Gundogan, it means that the strength of the attack line is getting sharper, of course, Gundogan is experienced and can provide guidance to young players. Moreover, Barcelona's position is the same as Manchester City which managed to lead the top of the standings in La Liga. Gundogan will surely be Busquets' replacement captain and Xavi is far more in control of the situation. Gundogan's presence is quite important and does not rule out the possibility that next season Barcelona will still have the potential to win the La Liga trophy.
What do you think about Barcelona's performance in the future?

source : https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671558716594745345

Well, this move by Gundogan to leave Manchester City and just after winning the Champions League trophy is quite surprising. I suspected his time at Manchester City was likely coming to an end after playing foot so long at the club. I never did expect him to go over to Barcelona.
Gundogan has a lot of potential as well as experience to impact on the other players. I think the future of Barcelona is still secured and they very well still have what it takes to retain the title of the La Liga trophy next season.

The problem is actually not Gundogan in my opinion!!!, i think Pep might have an impact on the way this players want to move so easily!!!, Pep seem like that proud non challant coach who doesn't give any slightest importance to his big players!!! most of them are treated like they can be replaced anytime, and there is no assurance whatsoever from the coach, Even Bernando is set to leave possibly!!! Cancelo was sidelined just badly too, and there hasn't been a replacement for him yet.. Pep won the treble last tweaking his formation and tactics to fit in with his present squad which worked for him!!!, but will it keep working??

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Quote from: uswa56 on June 22, 2023, 02:12:27 AM

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In my opinion it's not about important player or not but i think it's all about money because if this transfer happend and Newcastle really buy him with 80 millions then it could be good for Milan financial condition because we all know some of Italian teams had financial problem including Milan so these conditions make them unable to buy star players and if there is a player who have potention to be sold with expensive price then i am sure they will thinking to sell them and Milan can used those money to bought several players this summer so it could be good deal for them however if this rumour is true and Sandro Tonali really moved to Newcastle then he will broke the records as the most expensive selling player in club history

Sandro Tonali is a very good young player, he is still very young 23 years old but I think 80m€ is quite expensive.
Newcastle is indeed a team that currently has a lot of money and their success in qualifying for the UCL next season makes this team have to improve even better for next season, of course if they buy players at high prices create high expectations for these players to show good performance.
If this transfer occurs, AC Milan will be very profitable, by getting fresh funds of 80m € of course they can spend on other players to be able to fill the void left by Tonali.

Sandro Tonali is a decent midfielder with a lot of experience despite his young age. He is also playing for the Italian national team and has the mental and physical strength to meet the level that is required for the Premier League. I don't even know whether we should still be surprised about any transfer fees. Everyone gets used to those numbers like 80m. I also think it is not as much of a burden as it was 10 years ago. 80m is still high, but it is not unnormal. I would like to see Newcastle build a team with a future with lots of younger, highly talented players and some more experienced players and Tonali would fit well into that team.

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Tonali is very close to leaving AC Milan for joining Newcastle.

They are talking about 80m €

He is quite an important player in the ac milan squad, i don't believe the management will sell tonali to newcastle united. So if this really happens I think AC Milan will be quite difficult to find the right replacement like Tonali for next season. Tonali is the best midfielder for now i guess if Ac milan doesn't see the money in this then i'm sure they wont let him go.

However, in the latest developments, it seems that Newcastle United is really not standing still to get the Tonali, they will comply with AC Milan request at the release price. I think ac milan without their Tonali will be weak enough for next season.

In my opinion it's not about important player or not but i think it's all about money because if this transfer happend and Newcastle really buy him with 80 millions then it could be good for Milan financial condition because we all know some of Italian teams had financial problem including Milan so these conditions make them unable to buy star players and if there is a player who have potention to be sold with expensive price then i am sure they will thinking to sell them and Milan can used those money to bought several players this summer so it could be good deal for them however if this rumour is true and Sandro Tonali really moved to Newcastle then he will broke the records as the most expensive selling player in club history

Sandro Tonali is a very good young player, he is still very young 23 years old but I think 80m€ is quite expensive.
Newcastle is indeed a team that currently has a lot of money and their success in qualifying for the UCL next season makes this team have to improve even better for next season, of course if they buy players at high prices create high expectations for these players to show good performance.
If this transfer occurs, AC Milan will be very profitable, by getting fresh funds of 80m € of course they can spend on other players to be able to fill the void left by Tonali.

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Quote from: arimamib on June 21, 2023, 06:35:35 PM

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Tonali is very close to leaving AC Milan for joining Newcastle.

They are talking about 80m €

He is quite an important player in the ac milan squad, i don't believe the management will sell tonali to newcastle united. So if this really happens I think AC Milan will be quite difficult to find the right replacement like Tonali for next season. Tonali is the best midfielder for now i guess if Ac milan doesn't see the money in this then i'm sure they wont let him go.

However, in the latest developments, it seems that Newcastle United is really not standing still to get the Tonali, they will comply with AC Milan request at the release price. I think ac milan without their Tonali will be weak enough for next season.

In my opinion it's not about important player or not but i think it's all about money because if this transfer happend and Newcastle really buy him with 80 millions then it could be good for Milan financial condition because we all know some of Italian teams had financial problem including Milan so these conditions make them unable to buy star players and if there is a player who have potention to be sold with expensive price then i am sure they will thinking to sell them and Milan can used those money to bought several players this summer so it could be good deal for them however if this rumour is true and Sandro Tonali really moved to Newcastle then he will broke the records as the most expensive selling player in club history

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It's a pity, because Hazard really knows how to do incredible feints naturally, now if we look at it, he is one of those players who makes every child, adolescent dream of being like him, but somehow he broke down Madrid, it was not bad that he was signed there, but it is in bad taste to receive the different awards, medals when he hardly participated or made himself known, in fact sometimes I do some feints and dribbles that he does and it was hard for me to learn them, That is something that is very difficult, his style of play, apart from everything I think he can give more, I cannot deny that in Belgium he did not show much, and we all expected batane from that team, I don't know what is wrong with them and especially Hazard, I hope he recovers his level.

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Real Madrid midfielder Toni Kroos has slammed ex-teammate Eden Hazard for 'letting his career rest' after signing for Los Blancos.

The Belgian joined Real Madrid from Chelsea during the 2019 summer transfer window for a reported £88m, but a combination of a lack of fitness and form led to him being a huge flop at the Santiago Bernabeu - being named the second worst signing in footballing history

https://www.90min.com/posts/toni-kroos-slams-eden-hazard-for-wasting-real-madrid-career?dicbo=v2-A0iYefw

Even kroos was slamming hazard from wasting his golden chance in real madrid. I do know that if the result from hazard in real madrid makes kroos feel skeptical about bellingham even though he was still very young but kroos may be also worried if bellingham will have the same fate as hazard.
Hazard's performances have been decreasing a lot in all the competitions since he was joining in real madrid. I thought that if the toughest competition between any players in real madrid were giving very huge pressures that hazard can 't beat.
Im not feeling so good with the come of bellingham to the real madrid. The fact that if he achieves nothing when he was playing in dortmund.
that makes me believe if bellingham will find difficulty to adapt with the situation in la liga.

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Quote from: mamesso on June 21, 2023, 01:59:51 PM

Real Madrid signed Joselu on loan for one season. Actually Joselu is not a new face at Real Madrid, he has studied at the Madrid Castilla academy and made his debut for the Real Madrid first team in the 2010/11 La Liga. Real Madrid's decision to sign Joselu was due to a shortage of players up front after losing Karim Benzema, Marco Asensio, Eden Hazard and Mariano Diaz.

This is a short-term option made by Real Madrid because they currently lack forward players, so if they fail to get forwards as their target this season, Ancelotti has the option to take advantage of them. It is true and he made his debut with the senior team in the 2010-2011 season after getting promoted, but his performance at that time was less promising and he was unable to compete with other players so he was eventually released.

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Real Madrid is still trying to bring in a new striker with a higher quality to increase the sharpness of the front line. Until now, Real Madrid has been linked with Kylian Mbappe, Lautaro Martinez and Harry Kane. Real Madrid will have to fight hard to get one of them in order to compete with Barcelona in La Liga and other big teams in the Champions League.

From the list of two targeted names in the striker position, it is most likely Harry Kane who has a bigger chance for Real Madrid to sign him than Kylian Mbappe, because Tottenham had said they were willing to let him go to a league other than the Premier with an offer like they wanted. If you look at the financial status of the Real Madrid club, the offer made by Tottenham will not be difficult for Real Madrid to sign him.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 22, 2023, 12:18:19 AM

But indeed for Newcastle now it looks like they want to find the fastest one because if you look at the current movements they are also preparing for Tonali even at a very large price because there has already been an offer of 70 million for the player from Milan.
Depending on who accepts the offer quickly it seems for Newcastle this time because they don't want to wait with their money this season.

On the other hand, for Manchester United and Mount, it's a bit spiced up with drama, which makes me bored. Chelsea are still with the same stance as if they don't want to sell Mount so this could also be the same incident with Ziyech this season who couldn't leave because of some of the drama that Chelsea made.

Chelsea value Mount more than that fee!!!! That man has been one of Chelsea's best player consistently since he got introduced into the first team by Lampard in 2019, except for last season, and apparently most of the whole squad lost there form last season, maybe a few were decent... But for a young player with such potential, and also Chelsea knowing what they are loosing due to the contract disagreement and all, i really don't blame them for wanting a big fee for real... He is worth it!!!!

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 22, 2023, 12:18:19 AM

But indeed for Newcastle now it looks like they want to find the fastest one because if you look at the current movements they are also preparing for Tonali even at a very large price because there has already been an offer of 70 million for the player from Milan.
Depending on who accepts the offer quickly it seems for Newcastle this time because they don't want to wait with their money this season.

yep that's right. Newcastle at the moment have a different strategy and they want some of the best players to buy and add to the Newcastle team to be able to get a title that can be scored in history.
After the success of last season, Newcastle are aggressively wanting to continue to improve their player's performance strategy to be able to get the Premier League title or even become the UCL champion. maybe it seems impossible but we will see how Man City makes new history from the past few seasons.
at a high price for Newcastle getting Tonali was not in vain because Newcastle believed this player from Milan had good talent to form a strong team at Newcastle.

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But let's say all these three teams are interested in Maddison then Tottenham might be out of the race sooner. Because they have had a pretty inconsistent season and couldn't even qualify for any European cup. I assume Maddison's priority would be a European cup qualification in this situation.

Newcastle can be a good choice if they can reach an agreement on fees and other things, especially Newcastle need an attacking midfielder because their defense can be said to be good but the front line is still lacking in sharpness.

Quite surprised by Chelsea turning down a £50m offer from Manchester United for Mason Mount, and it was the second bid United have made, it seems Chelsea want the same value at market value. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671491865286262786

But indeed for Newcastle now it looks like they want to find the fastest one because if you look at the current movements they are also preparing for Tonali even at a very large price because there has already been an offer of 70 million for the player from Milan.
Depending on who accepts the offer quickly it seems for Newcastle this time because they don't want to wait with their money this season.

On the other hand, for Manchester United and Mount, it's a bit spiced up with drama, which makes me bored. Chelsea are still with the same stance as if they don't want to sell Mount so this could also be the same incident with Ziyech this season who couldn't leave because of some of the drama that Chelsea made.

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According to reports,Arsenal have competed the signing of Karl Harvetz from Chelsea in a deal worth about 60 million pounds.As an Arsenal fan,I am happy that Arsenal have made a signing in this transfer window,but I'm not happy it's Karl Harvetz,I was watching his pattern of play in YouTube,and I must confess,he might just be another Fabio Vierra in the Arsenal team.He is bought to play in thesame position with Odegard,but I don't see him starting for Arsenal,because at the moment,I don't think he can bench anyone in that starting line up.We have people like Smith Rowe who is fighting to be a regular starter in the squad,and it hasn't been possible following the exceptional form of Martinelli on that wing.Nevertheless,it is not bad because he would add depth to the young squad.

I am not happy with the signing. He’s not my ideal signing and I don’t understand his position in the team. But I think Arteta likes him. He is in the age bracket Arteta likes. I think he is 24. Thierry Henry describes him as having similar traits to RVP. Let's hope he fulfils his potentials in Arsenal just like Odegaard is currently is. I am glad he is used to the EPL speed. That matters to me. At the end of the day his performance will give the final verdict and justify the teams decision to recruit him.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 21, 2023, 05:20:27 PM

Arsenal are also interested? I didn't know that. Because there is a most recent transfer by Arsenal side for the attacking midfield who is Havertz. They have signed a deal with him for a 60m pounds guaranteed transfer fee as well. After spending this much amount of money on an attacking midfielder who can be a versatile player when there is need, I don't feel like Arsenal would sign Maddison as well.

Rumors circulated before Arsenal finally got Kai Havertz because previously Real Madrid were reported to be more aggressive in getting the German player but with the certainty of Havertz's arrival to Arsenal, of course Maddison will not be on Arsenal's list anymore.

Quote from: CLS63 on June 21, 2023, 05:20:27 PM

But let's say all these three teams are interested in Maddison then Tottenham might be out of the race sooner. Because they have had a pretty inconsistent season and couldn't even qualify for any European cup. I assume Maddison's priority would be a European cup qualification in this situation.

Newcastle can be a good choice if they can reach an agreement on fees and other things, especially Newcastle need an attacking midfielder because their defense can be said to be good but the front line is still lacking in sharpness.

Quite surprised by Chelsea turning down a £50m offer from Manchester United for Mason Mount, and it was the second bid United have made, it seems Chelsea want the same value at market value. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671491865286262786

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