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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 19, 2023, 01:01:54 PM

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Arsenal is also bidding for Romeo Lavia the Southampton youngster who will likely replace injury prone Thomas Partey at the midfield, honestly Partey made some costly error this season that cost the team losing some crucial matches of it by losing possession to his opponents easily therefore the earlier he leaves the better.

Is Romeo Lavia the player that Arsenal really need? He is good and has the signs to be a superstar player tomorrow, but is he exactly what Arsenal will want to gamble on in this next season both in the premier league and in the champions league where they have just had an opportunity after a very long time. Can Romeo Lavia play against the big teams, he is very young and just 19 years of age, he has no serious experience for what Arsenal needs in the champions league defensive midfield position. Arsenal need experienced players, even if they will get this youngster, they still need experienced players in that position to join with Jorginho.

Arteta has turned his attention to Romeo Lavia since the club considers Moises Caiceido’s price value as too expensive. In my opinion I think both players are so much similar and it will be easier to get Lavia this summer than it will be to get Caicedo, I support the idea of trying to get Lavia instead.
Declan Rice, Lavia and Havertz partnership will cause much problems for opponents next season if Arsenal successfully get these players on their side.

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Quote from: Dump3er on June 19, 2023, 11:42:05 AM

Just looking at the news and the numbers that have been reported by the media, I would also think that going to Saudi Arabia and earning almost a billion in two years should have been quite convincing even for Messi Cheesy

But there may be so many confidential agreements that will never surface in the media that any speculation will remain speculation. There could be agreements in place for the time after his MLS activity or there may be major deals with further investors because we should not forget that the World Cup in the US is around the corner.

Maybe there are still many things that have not been published in the media, the offer from Saudi Arabia should be quite convincing and the amount of money earned is also quite large for Lionel Messi. So the decision to move to Saudi Arabia should have been more profitable for him, but in the end Lionel Messi chose to go to MLS for reasons that until now have never been known more clearly by many people.

If the reason is regarding the World Cup going forward, how can this relationship be linked to him and what personal benefits will he get. The world cup will always be discussed even if Lionel Messi is present or not because this is the biggest sport that involves many countries, so individual involvement cannot convince the public about this.

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I know the interview when he said that he could have done this or that when it was about the money for him, but I still think it is about the money for him and he is earning well regardless of whether he goes to Saudi Arabia now or to the MLS. Miami has been working on a deal for a very long time and they knew that they can't get Messi with 50 million only and I doubt that it would only be 50 million while he is offered ten times as much elsewhere. It can't be his moral stance on Saudi Arabia because he then wouldn't be doing business with Saudi Arabia in other areas as well but he already is.

If it is still related to money then MLS may have hidden the purchase price and wages received by Lionel Messi, so when this is revealed it may also put the club in jeopardy regarding the rules and this is just an assumption when linking all of that to money because so much discussion is going on and nothing certainty about Lionel Messi's decision to move to MLS.

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Quote from: naira on June 20, 2023, 01:18:29 PM

But the fact is nowadays don't spend a lot of money right? unlike what Chelsea did last season (for example) in terms of wasting money. Basically, Madrid is good at taking advantage of the momentum and Florentino Perez doesn't put too much pressure on Ancelotti so next season Real Madrid will try to experiment with making Joselu a temporary striker. The reason is another option, namely Brahim Diaz, both of them will share playing time. From this, it is clear that Florentino Perez's big target is the 2024 transfer season with Mbappe.

Spending huge sums on players is most likely owing to an overhyped or competitive race for the player, with every club wanting him. For example, Mudryk is a strong player, but he was overhyped, and more elite clubs were competing to sign him, and at the end of the day, he has relatively low performance credits. I don't want Chelsea to make such big blunders again, and in the case of Real Madrid, they have the best young players lined up. Florentino Perez has set his sights on Kylian Mbappe because he is a potential player for the club and would like to pursue his success at the Santiago Bernabeu.

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Quote from: Hvdv on June 20, 2023, 10:21:21 AM

I think 90 million is too much. Declan Rice is an important player, of course, but after giving 90 million, there is definitely a player in the world who can do what he does. For Kylian Mbappe or Haaland, these funds may seem simple, but for Rice, I think it's a very high transfer fee. If the transfer does happen, I hope Rice can bear the weight of it.

Arsenal should have known better, the player might be keen on the move to the Emirates with personal terms both agreed likewise but, the fee from West Ham wouldn't be reduced or deducted. English player's are really overpriced as the media hypes on them increases the price on them players. Jack Grealish last two seasons was also bought with almost the same price. Not so certain too.
Such deals are just to inflate the transfer window market.

Declan Rice has quality, so much potentials that'll suit him well into that Arsenal squad, and without injuries he's a consistent player.

Joselu to Real Madrid would be considered the last move for them this season according to club president Florentino Perez.

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Quote from: mv1986 on June 20, 2023, 12:49:48 PM

It is not completely true that a club saves on transfer fees when a player has no contract anymore. Especially when a player has no contract there are more clubs giving it a try to go for it, but the player himself can ask for a fee then. It just doesn't go into the pockets of the former club anymore.

Joselu is definitely a temporary striker but he could still be the backup for someone else. Nothing is over yet.

But the fact is nowadays don't spend a lot of money right? unlike what Chelsea did last season (for example) in terms of wasting money. Basically, Madrid is good at taking advantage of the momentum and Florentino Perez doesn't put too much pressure on Ancelotti so next season Real Madrid will try to experiment with making Joselu a temporary striker. The reason is another option, namely Brahim Diaz, both of them will share playing time. From this, it is clear that Florentino Perez's big target is the 2024 transfer season with Mbappe.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on June 20, 2023, 10:55:50 AM

According to bbcsport news Chelsea had completed the signing of Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig in a deal worth £52m, he is a quality striker having proved to be one of the best striker in Europe and with the imminent departure of Abumeyang to Saudi, Havertz to Arsenal and lots other attacking players who will exit the club this summer and in a order to avoid avoid FFP ban Chelsea is set to offload and trim many of their players and with possibly departure of Lukaku thus necessitate signing Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig who I believe will perform brilliantly for Chelsea going by his past records in both Ligue 1 and Bundesliga.

Great signing, he will make chelsea great again next season he is like magic danger type player and paying 52 million selling Havertz to Arsenal for 60 million is amazing. Christopher Nkunku this great player has a good volley, powerful and accurate long-range shot, good free kick, both feet strong but his strength is his left foot but homework is Chelsea need a good assist giver as it relates to his goals in RBL, he always gets space. which is not easy in EPL.

But he has good body balance, but I don't think he will win if there is an aerial duel against CB. But he is a perfect ST if we play a false 9.

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Dejan Kulusevski is a done deal for Tottenham. I think this is a pretty good start for Tottenham to the transfer window. It is a five-year deal and they have paid 30 million euros for his transfer fee. For a skilled winger like Kulusevski this isn't much different than a free transfer.

His market value has gone up to 50 million euros right after the transfer. Honestly I must admit that I have liked his performance so far. Tottenham has looked like the best place for him after seeing that high effort.

He missed 10 games due to thigh injury but this still didn't overshadow his effort. They have signed their new coach, Ange Postecoglou as well so I hope we see the right kind of transfers for the team from now on.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on June 20, 2023, 11:26:06 AM

I think with Arsenal making a second bid of £90 million it's high, it's just that West Ham is too ambitious for a high price, even though it's clear that we know that the price Arsenal want is big enough, it's just that maybe West Ham wants to keep Declan Rice so the price continues to be raised and there is no decrease at all, then with Manchester City's offer more than Arsenal, will he want to make a bigger bid? Maybe Manchester City will think twice and look for players who are cheaper than Declan Rice's price but the quality remains the same as they want.

If Declan Rice is indeed set to dock at the Emirates Stadium, it would surpass the signing of Nicolas Pepe in the 2019-2020 season as Arsenal's most expensive acquisition. It is understandable that West Ham United would hold onto their Defensive Midfielder at a premium, considering their captain is currently one of the best defensive midfielders in the Premier League.

Currently, Manchester City has Rodri in the defensive midfield position. I believe Rice would also think twice about joining Man City if he is not guaranteed to be Pep Guardiola's first choice. It would be better for Rice to anchor himself at a club where he can be the main starter.

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Seeing from this condition it seems that they do not want to be too busy and only see the players who have been with them before because seeing from his words apart from Jude who "Welcome" for these 3 players are all "Welcome Back" because they have previously been in Madrid.
Whether in this case they really only see players who are already in their uniform or do not want to be too bothered with it.
But I do think it's good to focus on the players who have been at Madrid before, but I still don't think it will have much of an impact, especially since the most risky position is striker and I'm not too sure whether Joselu will do a good job or not because he has a lot on his plate considering he's the replacement for Benzema if there's no other striker.

Many people say this and doubt Florentino Perez's decision to bring Joselu as a striker. But I hope it's the same as what you think, that in fact Joselu will only be a temporary striker until 2024 and of course Madrid behind the scenes have made an agreement with Mbappe plus a free transfer bonus which has kept Madrid from spending a lot. I think this is a tactic that many people have missed, Madrid decided not to spend a lot of money buying Harry Kane, Osimhen, Vlahovic or Rasmus Hojlund, these players are the targets of many big clubs. In essence, Madrid sacrificed one season after the next to welcome Mbappe. Once again, Joselu presence will not become a core striker later, as for the match he will face like it or not Joselu must be able to defend himself.

It is not completely true that a club saves on transfer fees when a player has no contract anymore. Especially when a player has no contract there are more clubs giving it a try to go for it, but the player himself can ask for a fee then. It just doesn't go into the pockets of the former club anymore.

Joselu is definitely a temporary striker but he could still be the backup for someone else. Nothing is over yet.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on June 20, 2023, 11:03:54 AM

Seeing from this condition it seems that they do not want to be too busy and only see the players who have been with them before because seeing from his words apart from Jude who "Welcome" for these 3 players are all "Welcome Back" because they have previously been in Madrid.
Whether in this case they really only see players who are already in their uniform or do not want to be too bothered with it.
But I do think it's good to focus on the players who have been at Madrid before, but I still don't think it will have much of an impact, especially since the most risky position is striker and I'm not too sure whether Joselu will do a good job or not because he has a lot on his plate considering he's the replacement for Benzema if there's no other striker.

Many people say this and doubt Florentino Perez's decision to bring Joselu as a striker. But I hope it's the same as what you think, that in fact Joselu will only be a temporary striker until 2024 and of course Madrid behind the scenes have made an agreement with Mbappe plus a free transfer bonus which has kept Madrid from spending a lot. I think this is a tactic that many people have missed, Madrid decided not to spend a lot of money buying Harry Kane, Osimhen, Vlahovic or Rasmus Hojlund, these players are the targets of many big clubs. In essence, Madrid sacrificed one season after the next to welcome Mbappe. Once again, Joselu presence will not become a core striker later, as for the match he will face like it or not Joselu must be able to defend himself.

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When did Mbappe play in the centre-forward position? I had a look at like 7 or 8 games just right now and he either plays left wing or half-center forward together with Messi. I can't even remember when he played a centre-forward game, he usually prefers to attack from the left-wing anyway.

Yeah Mbappe never play as center forward, but even though he's play as left wing position, he's good in finishing, that's why center forward position looks better for him. If Kane replace Messi, there's could be an internal problem because both Kane and Mbappe will trying to beat each other which is not good. It would be like France national club where Benzema didn't play when Mbappe is playing.

No his strength really is to move from the outside to the inside of the field as his speed is superior to any other player and he strong at crossing ways with his opponents. I think he is also good at assisting or preparing an attack and it would be a bit of a waste to put him as a center forward. Having him left or half-left and having another strong player right or half-right is the best combination if a team plays with two or three strikers / attackers. Bringing him on a single center-forward takes away all the other abilities he has.

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Arteta managed to create their main squad to play well and the chemistry between the players went well, but his success in creating good main players was not accompanied by their second tier players who could close the gap left if their main players had problems and could not be registered in the lineup. players when playing, that is one of their weaknesses which ultimately makes them lose stability a little towards the end of the season.
I'm sure Arsenal are aware of that and they are starting to make improvements so that the same thing doesn't happen again in the following season. But indeed it is not an easy task, the coaching staff must be good at finding talent to be able to create an even squad.

Mikel Arteta deserves appreciation for an accomplishment well done; I'm confident he'll develop his squad's football pattern as time goes on. Arsenal's performance this season was a surprise to the supporters; it was outstanding to watch the Gunners compete for the Premier League title race despite missing out, and also triumph their way back in the UEFA Champions League competition after an extended absence. The Gunners are in the transfer market, attempting to find quality players to boost the club's performance next season.

The problem they haven't solved so far is just about how they don't get out of the way.
Their performance in the last few seasons has always been seen where increases in performance and decreases in performance always come suddenly.
It would be great if it was on a performance bump but a sudden drop in performance doesn't do them any good of course. and this season may be one example where they are already 8 points ahead and have 1 remaining game but when their performance suddenly declines it makes them shift and have to settle for second place.
Arteta must look for the location of the problem here because if things like this continue to be allowed then this will indeed have an impact on them regardless of what their performance will be erratic in the end.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 20, 2023, 07:52:07 AM

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Sources have revealed that it is thought West Ham will turn down the £90m bid and it looks like this will be the second time West Ham have turned down an offer. I think West Ham is too much for one player whose contribution to winning a major trophy is unclear and this rejection makes it clear that West Ham will never be satisfied with such an offer. On the other hand, West Ham is still expecting an offer from Manchester City and of course the offer must be higher than what Arsenal made. I think as a mediocre club, West Ham will actually be seen as not good if the problem of player transfers is still dissatisfied with this large nominal.

I think with Arsenal making a second bid of £90 million it's high, it's just that West Ham is too ambitious for a high price, even though it's clear that we know that the price Arsenal want is big enough, it's just that maybe West Ham wants to keep Declan Rice so the price continues to be raised and there is no decrease at all, then with Manchester City's offer more than Arsenal, will he want to make a bigger bid? Maybe Manchester City will think twice and look for players who are cheaper than Declan Rice's price but the quality remains the same as they want.

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Honestly I’m not happy that Arsenal is really going to pay what Westham are asking for on Declan Rice that hasn’t played anything worthy of that heavy sum. Honestly Arsenal really need good scouting network. Because this is why good scouting network is so important especially when you aren't on Premier league level of spending. All other big clubs have no problem forking out millions for what ever they want. Brighton for example, the have. Avery good scouting network, that’s because they don’t have the financial capacity. Arsenal really need to find a great scouting team instead of spending all their budget on 2 players.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on June 20, 2023, 10:55:50 AM

According to bbcsport news Chelsea had completed the signing of Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig in a deal worth £52m, he is a quality striker having proved to be one of the best striker in Europe and with the imminent departure of Abumeyang to Saudi, Havertz to Arsenal and lots other attacking players who will exit the club this summer and in a order to avoid avoid FFP ban Chelsea is set to offload and trim many of their players and with possibly departure of Lukaku thus necessitate signing Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig who I believe will perform brilliantly for Chelsea going by his past records in both Ligue 1 and Bundesliga.

Well most part of the transfer was already done an year ago in a discreet manner with Nkunku to join for the next season back then. A very good striker indeed and definitely someone that Chelsea needs right now spearheading the Chelsea's attack for next season. I am actually excited to see how well he performs for them. Chelsea at current stage can't afford to make bad transfers.

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I don't really understand Madrid's scouts in this transfer window.
They have brought in 4 players at the moment where perhaps the focus is on Jude who was bought at a high price.

But on the other hand, the other 3 players they brought in can all be said to be quite cheap because if you look at the price of Joselu on loan for only 500k, Fran Garcia 5 million and Brahim Diaz returned from Milan.

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Seeing from this condition it seems that they do not want to be too busy and only see the players who have been with them before because seeing from his words apart from Jude who "Welcome" for these 3 players are all "Welcome Back" because they have previously been in Madrid.
Whether in this case they really only see players who are already in their uniform or do not want to be too bothered with it.
But I do think it's good to focus on the players who have been at Madrid before, but I still don't think it will have much of an impact, especially since the most risky position is striker and I'm not too sure whether Joselu will do a good job or not because he has a lot on his plate considering he's the replacement for Benzema if there's no other striker.

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Quote from: borovichok on June 20, 2023, 09:56:15 AM

Mikel Arteta deserves appreciation for an accomplishment well done; I'm confident he'll develop his squad's football pattern as time goes on. Arsenal's performance this season was a surprise to the supporters; it was outstanding to watch the Gunners compete for the Premier League title race despite missing out, and also triumph their way back in the UEFA Champions League competition after an extended absence. The Gunners are in the transfer market, attempting to find quality players to boost the club's performance next season.

I can't say arsenal's performance was good. It's only getting UCL spot and arsenal was also trophyless again. The problem is arsenal has become a team that mostly does this.

Even so, many people were calling it as a bottle club. The big money shall be spent by kroenke to get players that wanted by arteta. Rice has become the prime target and westham agreed to decrease rice's price a little.

Let's ascertain what conclusion Arsenal will reach, and as yet, Arsenal has not formulated a novel offer for Rice.

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The Gunners saw their earlier bid of £80 million for Rice rejected by West Ham as the Hammers value the midfielder at over £100m. But Arsenal have now returned with an improved offer, according to The Athletic, as Mikel Arteta pushes to secure his number one summer target. The Gunners' second bid amounted to a ground total of £90m including add-ons, which West Ham have also turned down. Arsenal are getting closer to an acceptable fee, though, and Rice remains adamant about completing his move to the Emirates Stadium by the end of this month, which gives the club leverage over other bidders.

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According to bbcsport news Chelsea had completed the signing of Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig in a deal worth £52m, he is a quality striker having proved to be one of the best striker in Europe and with the imminent departure of Abumeyang to Saudi, Havertz to Arsenal and lots other attacking players who will exit the club this summer and in a order to avoid avoid FFP ban Chelsea is set to offload and trim many of their players and with possibly departure of Lukaku thus necessitate signing Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig who I believe will perform brilliantly for Chelsea going by his past records in both Ligue 1 and Bundesliga.

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Quote from: Hvdv on June 20, 2023, 10:21:21 AM

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Previously Arsenal's bid for Declan Rice of 80 million euros had been rejected by West Ham and the development of Declan Rice's transfer is now starting a new chapter with an offer that has been increased by Arsenal to 90 million euros as well as being the highest record for Arsenal to bring in a player. It looks like Arsenal have almost lost their minds on Declan Rice and this kind of money is something we've never seen before from Arsenal's side.

Arteta has full hopes for Declan Rice through this transfer because for sure he will enter as one of the regular players next season. I think West Ham should accept the offer and it will also help Declan Rice to quickly join Arsenal.

Arsenal are doing something that they have never done and spending this amount of money on a player because they have seen that to win trophies, heavy investment in the team has to be made. Declan must be very important to Arteta's strategy next season maybe that is why he has made him a top priority. 90 million is okay for him, and West Ham needs to consider it. If they refuse this, Arsenal may be forced to seek another alternative. West Ham may turn down this deal if they think that they will be able to get more from other clubs that are interested in Declan Rice too.

I think 90 million is too much. Declan Rice is an important player, of course, but after giving 90 million, there is definitely a player in the world who can do what he does. For Kylian Mbappe or Haaland, these funds may seem simple, but for Rice, I think it's a very high transfer fee. If the transfer does happen, I hope Rice can bear the weight of it.

There are lots of other players out there who are just as talented as Declan Rice, and they're not commanding anything close to that kind of price tag. Let's be honest, I think Declan Rice is a fantastic player. But is he really worth that 90 million? I'm not entirely convinced.

I'm not sure that this try and error approach is going to do them any favors in next season. Yes, they've made some great signings in the past, but they've also had their fair share of missteps.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 20, 2023, 07:52:07 AM

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Sources have revealed that it is thought West Ham will turn down the £90m bid and it looks like this will be the second time West Ham have turned down an offer. I think West Ham is too much for one player whose contribution to winning a major trophy is unclear and this rejection makes it clear that West Ham will never be satisfied with such an offer. On the other hand, West Ham is still expecting an offer from Manchester City and of course the offer must be higher than what Arsenal made. I think as a mediocre club, West Ham will actually be seen as not good if the problem of player transfers is still dissatisfied with this large nominal.

I heard that West Ham has set a price of 100 million pounds for any club that wants to marry Declan Rice, the 90 million pounds offered by Arsenal, in my opinion, is not too far from the price target given by West Ham. I don't know if 100 million pounds is the opening price from West Ham or a fixed price. With West Ham turning down Arsenal's offer, everyone will think this is a bit too much and it is likely that some of the clubs that want him will look for other, more plausible alternatives.

I think maybe it's because Declan Rice is such a high-quality player and one of the key players from West Ham that it's difficult for West Ham to let him go for a price that doesn't really satisfy them. Many big clubs want it and they indirectly take advantage of this situation to get a lot of profit by choosing the highest price offered by the participating clubs in this hunt.

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