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I went to look for a statement of goals and assists between the two players, and found this:


Osimhen
  • 2020/21: 10 goals and 3 assists in 30 games
  • 2021/22: 18 goals and 2 assists in 32 games
  • 2022/23: 31 goals and 4 assists in 39 games
  • 2023/24: 17 goals and 3 assists in 32 games

Lukaku
  • 2020/21: 30 goals and 11 assists in 44 games
  • 2021/22: 15 goals and no assists in 44 games
  • 2022/23: 14 goals and 7 assists in 37 games
  • 2023/24: 21 goals and 4 assists in 47 games
What is the essence of the statistics you dropped above? Is it to compare the both strikers, if so, I'll further simplify the statistics so that we can well analyse it.

Osimhen
133 games
76 goals
12 assists

Lukaku
172 games
80 goals
22 assists

From the above table, we can deduce that Osimhen scoring rate is higher than Lukaku, despite Lukaku playing higher number of games than Osimhen.

But Lukaku assist rate is higher than that of Osimhen, pointing that Lukaku works harder than Osimhen. I can attest that both of them are beast to defenders on their good days.
So, it is nice to say that both strikers are good for any club that wants them, be it Napoli or Chelsea. What will make the difference is how happy the players will be in the club they find themselves.
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Napoli are asking for too much and that is why the deal has not progressed, Victor Osimhen has already personally agreed with PSG, but the clubs can't seem to agree and the deal might fall through soon. That being said, i don't know if Napoli are doing this, just to eventually sell the Nigerian to Saudi Arabia, because it looks like only the Saudis can afford their valuation of Victor Osimhen.
Napoli won't sell their player with lower transfer fees and waiting which one team will give more excited offer between PSG or Saudi Arabia club, but still do not know any interested for Victor Osimhen accepted offer from Saudi Arabia club behind has interested from top European teams PSG.
Napoli have started with the first pre season match after winning over Egnatia but there are not list name of Victor Osimhen in Napoli squad, seems strong indicate with Antonio Conte want to sell him after not including in his scheme and waiting release for signing Romelu Lukaku.

Not clearly the future club of Victor Osimhen will stay with Napoli but he will get difficult for regular position or joining PSG but waiting agreement deal between Napoli and PSG about fees transfer. But if want leave Napoli and joining with Saudi Arabia clubs seems easily because Napoli very interested to sell him there due higher fees transfer.
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The main problem currently that is making it difficult for Napoli to let go of Osimhen is that the price set by them is very high and for players who have only shown their best performance in the last 4 seasons of course that price doesn't make sense

So, I read a very interesting rumor that Napoli would be interested in signing Lukaku permanently and on the other hand Chelsea would be looking for Osimhen on a loan with an option to buy.
But, I confess that the negotiation seems to be "a little far away", because while Chelsea are asking for 40 million euros, Napoli are willing to pay only 25 million euros in this negotiation.

I went to look for a statement of goals and assists between the two players, and found this:


Osimhen
  • 2020/21: 10 goals and 3 assists in 30 games
  • 2021/22: 18 goals and 2 assists in 32 games
  • 2022/23: 31 goals and 4 assists in 39 games
  • 2023/24: 17 goals and 3 assists in 32 games

Lukaku
  • 2020/21: 30 goals and 11 assists in 44 games
  • 2021/22: 15 goals and no assists in 44 games
  • 2022/23: 14 goals and 7 assists in 37 games
  • 2023/24: 21 goals and 4 assists in 47 games
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The main problem currently that is making it difficult for Napoli to let go of Osimhen is that the price set by them is very high and for players who have only shown their best performance in the last 4 seasons of course that price doesn't make sense
Until now, there is still no good progres about the two, even the the current option swap deal for the purchase and sale of Osimhen and Lukaku, is not happening yet, its stuck. because after all, on the one hand, Napoli wants Lukaku but they can't do it as long as Osimhen is still at Napoli. While Osimhen is no longer on Napoli's player list, because Osimhen and Napoli's main target is his transfer from the club. Likewise with Chelsea who want to sell Lukaku and bring in Osimhen, but the very large fee makes the negotiations very complicated and there is no purchase decision from Chelsea because of the high price. And this is still stuck until now.

fake news always accompanies all existing rumors, especially this is a long-standing rumor. And there are parties who take advantage of this to gain profits. What an irony. I almost believed the news because there were indeed many media that rumored it and thought that it was a final deal. but indeed, as long as it has not been officially announced by both parties, or news from FabrizioRomano which is more accurate, then it would be much better not to rush to believe it. fake news is always a hot topic to talk about and unfortunately, even though there has been confirmation from FabrizioRomano, many media are still spread the news.
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They are probably concerned about the wages Osimhen will receive that could be the reason why Chelsea are hesitant.
Chelsea are still following up the situation, they still look interested, but maybe considering other options of strikers that they have on their watch list. Maybe that is the reason why there is a delay from Chelsea. I do not think the money is the problem for Chelsea, they can actually afford him, but they also do not want to buy him at once, they want to see if they can get him on loan with an option to buy, and Napoli want a permanent deal. If they are able to reach an agreement, Osimhen will move to Chelsea instead of PSG where there is already a big hype about him going.

https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2024-2025/chelsea-napoli-romelu-lukaku-victor-osimhen-transfers-kieran-mckenna-viktor-gyokeres-mikel-merino-arsenal_sto20023136/story.shtml
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Rumors: Man United will buy Manuel Ugarte. Manuel Ugarte is a PSG midfielder, Ten Hag seems to have put Manuel Ugarte on the main transfer list after the 5 transfers he made. But Man United have to sell one of their midfielders to be able to get him. Casemiro is reportedly interested in Arab clubs, while Scott McTominay is interested in Fulham. There are indeed several players who are interested by other clubs, Ten Hag seems to be going to sell one of them.  Because Man United had to pay £59 million to buy Manuel Ugarte.

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1929613/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Manuel-Ugarte
Casemiro has to go, although he has been of on the top performers in Manchester United since joining them. But he is already getting old and he has been having injury problems lately, It won't be a difficult decision for Ten Hag to make. Manchester United midfield need a fresh leg, and if I am to choose between Scott McTominay and Casemiro I will choose McTominay and let let Casemiro go. But if Manchester United can afford to bring in two new midfielders to replace Casemiro and McTominay it will be good. The two of them has been playing that midfield for years now and nothing special has happened. Manchester United don't have to miss Manuel Ugarte, he has been on their transfer list sine the transfer window opened, and his transfer fee is not what Manchester United can't afford. They should bring money and get good players and forget about buying fringe players that has started picking up injuries while the season has not even started.
If we talking about Casemiro performance i think you should be remember that when season 2022/2023 he performing well and very solid at Manchester United midfield lines and Casemiro also can able to bringing Manchester United to finish at 3rd place at that time and gets Carabao Cup trophy but indeed last season Casemiro was unable to in form because he several times to gets injured but as defensive midfielder i have to says Casemiro performance is more better compared to other players such as Mctominay or Christian Eriksen

This summer i thought Casemiro will leave because some of the clubs from Saudi Pro League has showing their interest to him even Al Nassr is almost gets him because at that time Ronaldo personally has been attempts persuade to joining Al Nassr but unfortunately this transfer was never happend because whether it Al Nassr or other clubs from Saudi Pro League is never bid for Casemiro and according to the latest news now Casemiro hasn't linked to any clubs

Manchester United actually want to sell Casemiro even they have been look for the replacement of him but unfortunately there was no clubs who really serious want to bought Casemiro and Manchester United has been realize this situation that if until summer transfer window closed Casemiro still not leave then for next season Manchester United will attempts to optimized his skill and hopefully he can be in form again
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Napoli are looking to offload the Nigerian but with that price tag no club would want to pay due to how Osihmen didn’t perform well last season, they need to lower their asking price to actually get anything from him.
Napoli are asking for too much and that is why the deal has not progressed, Victor Osimhen has already personally agreed with PSG, but the clubs can't seem to agree and the deal might fall through soon. That being said, i don't know if Napoli are doing this, just to eventually sell the Nigerian to Saudi Arabia, because it looks like only the Saudis can afford their valuation of Victor Osimhen.
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Kylian Mbappé buys shares at France ligue 2 club CAEN

Link: https://www.goal.com/en-ng/lists/kylian-mbappe-buys-own-club-real-madrid-star-majority-stake-ligue-2-caen/blt6cf397c0690cb725#csbdcf60dd4cd71fe2

I came across this news in goal.com about Kylian Mbappé buying shares worth €20million in CAEN which is the highest while Pierre-Antin Capton takes the remaining shares of €5 million. I commend the move by the France and Real Madrid international footballer Kylian Mbappé for making the move to own a club of his own by owning the highest stakes in CAEN it's indeed a welcome achievement and I like his style of investment because for a young player like Mbappé to think of buying this huge shares means that the France International is very interested in taking his football career to another dimension, imagine being a player and also owning a club of your own and considering how young the player is, he can even decide to play for his own club in the future so i applaud his bravery at this young age.

What are your thoughts about the recent achievement of Kylian Mbappé?

I think this is either money laundering or some kind of financial scheme to optimize taxes. I don't even want to go into details and look for what it really is, since it's clear that it has nothing to do with investing/sports. At its most harmless option, it's PR. Mbappe has built an entire empire on his name and this small purchase does not fit into his usual business. I think a little later, either on forums or on social networks (Twitter), you can read about the background of this deal.
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Rumors about the transfer of Nico Williams now Barcelona almost gave up because there was no more concrete decision, the news also originated from pressure from his own family and club which made it difficult for Barcelona to get the Spanish player.

This means that the Dani Olmo option will now start because this is the second option after Nico Williams failed.
After this news PSG became a priority to recruit Nico Williams, according to the club Enrique can convince the player, meaning that this will rule out Victor Osimhen who is also rumored to be a top priority?

Source about Nico Williams.

https://x.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1818342178734698512
https://x.com/barcacentre/status/1818350857769140234
I am a bit confuse on the right news to take for Niko Williams. The player is saying that he will stay in his club Athletic Bilbao because his aim to join Barcelona is becoming shattered due to financial agreement that is failed to be made with both parties. If Barcelona didn’t tackle this financial problems soon, it will spoils the team’s reputation because there performance will dropped and players will stop signing for them because the only big rival they have in the Spanish Laliga is Real Madrid and we all know that with current squad situation, Madrid is far better than Barcelona. Therefore, Barcelona will have to make some signings before they can be confident of challenging Madrid in the Laliga title chase next season.
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Arsenal can not be capable of recruit Victor Osimhen, it's really one tough harden deal for Gunners because Napoli are not willing to let the Nigeria international exits the doors. Napoli. Mikel Arteta wants the best for his club, he won't relent or lend things down for them.

Juventus have interests for potential players, it's very importance for the existence of these elite clubs, they push for big names and tender talents, atleast these categories enchanced the club's performance. These transfer rumors are likely possible to be triggered.

I think you must be referring to the Arsenal of before when Arsene Wenger was the manager and the club made it look like signing players above £50M was a waste but not the current arsenal, the club have also developed the habit of signing players at huge amounts too, although this I don’t blame it on them alone but rather how the transfer market has changed. Arsenal last season bought Declan Rice for over £100M and they they signings too where made, they don’t have financial problems although there is a general restriction on how the signings players can go now but they definitely can afford Osimhen but he is not their priority with others top of their list.

Napoli are looking to offload the Nigerian but with that price tag no club would want to pay due to how Osihmen didn’t perform well last season, they need to lower their asking price to actually get anything from him.


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While for Chelsea, haven't they previously refused to loan Lukaku back and preferred to sell him permanently to clubs who are currently interested? Currently, Napoli seems to be running out of ideas to sell Osimhen, so if now they want to try borrowing and trading osimhen for Lukaku, but on the other hand, currently Chelsea has brought in a lot of players and they also must to spend a lot of money to borrow Osimhen, then will that be the be a profitable option for Chelsea?
Napoli are not running out of ideas to sell Osimhen, the price tag is what has been discouraging other teams knowing that he doesn’t have much time to play for them and spending such money on him would not be really beneficial. Napoli are interested in getting Lukaku and also they are aware that Chelsea needs Osimhen when they tried to sign him earlier so they are trying to work things so they don’t have to spend money to get Lukaku that’s why they included Osimhen in the deal but Chelsea are still weighing the situation and trying to look for a better way out. I don’t think loaning Osimhen is the way out, they should rather get him on a permanent transfer, with Lukaku included they won’t have to spend much.
They are probably concerned about the wages Osimhen will receive that could be the reason why Chelsea are hesitant.
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This report or news seems to be fake to me.Osimhen did so well at his club,but I didn't see that type of performance when he is putting on his country's Jersey.Some days ago,it was reported that Osimhen is on the verge of joining PSG,however,news have come out today that the deal did not materialise,the reason is what we don't know,but i am aware of the fact that most coaches won't like to work with Osimhen because of his arrogance.
He disrespected his National team coach Finidi,and that alone is the reason why teams won't go for him that much this summer.

People will always talk when they don't know the inside out of the issue Osimhen and Finidi George had, the player said his mind and people assume he is arrogant like why would people think ill of the other without hearing from both side? Osimhen did what everyone who has been keeping quiet would do so nobody should use what he did as what is making Napoli struggling to get him out, after all he wanted to leave, if you think because he was arrogant that made clubs not to come for him, I ask you why did PSG come for him, Arsenal are also included, why?
The thing is that Conte doesn't want to work with him and nothing more, unless the manager Conte has his own reasons aside from that we shouldn't say what we are not sure of about Osimhen, I mean let's give the man some credit. His agent came to clear the air of him being loaded out in exchange for Lukaku and that alone should pass a very strong message that something isn't right in this transfer news concerning Osimhen.
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Juventus official bid to BVB for Karim Adeyemi for 30+10.
Arsenal joined for the race for Osimhen from Napoli.
Atletico wants Gallagher.

Arsenal can not be capable of recruit Victor Osimhen, it's really one tough harden deal for Gunners because Napoli are not willing to let the Nigeria international exits the doors. Napoli. Mikel Arteta wants the best for his club, he won't relent or lend things down for them.

Juventus have interests for potential players, it's very importance for the existence of these elite clubs, they push for big names and tender talents, atleast these categories enchanced the club's performance. These transfer rumors are likely possible to be triggered.
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How do you see the exchange of players between these two clubs? Is Napoli too careless to let go of Osimhen?
I think about this exchange is news that is only made up by the media I just read the latest news on Fabrizio Romano's tweet that the Oshimen exchange is not something that is really valid, maybe this is beneficial for both parties Napoli get Lukaku and Chelsea get Victor Oshimen but what about Oshimen's feelings? loan option? I think this is too ridiculous Victor Oshimen is a star player being a loan player is the same as insulting this player like a wasted player, it would be better if Chelsea made an exchange with Lukaku but cut directly with Oshimen's price clause and bought him so that Oshimen can be more appreciated and Napoli also gets benefits while getting Lukaku.

Source : https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1818271003912683836?t=p9fagI0Md2AQTqihYsSogg&s=19
I remember when I was writing in this forum and also was writing in other social media such as facebook, that it was time for Victor Osimhen to leave Napoli last season as a high profile player but many people didn't see reasons with me. He had the greatest opportunity to move to any club of his choice with high pay but he was deceived by Napoli to remain and renew his contract. Even when the club did one saga of his statue in the club, he remained. But just a little misunderstanding with his national team, he flared over the internet.

Well, whatever happens, I think it is an insult for Victor to move to Chelsea who is not playing any major European competition on a loan. No, that's not right. A swap deal will be understandable and not a loan deal.
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Juventus official bid to BVB for Karim Adeyemi for 30+10.
Arsenal joined for the race for Osimhen from Napoli.
Atletico wants Gallagher.


The first two transfer above I've literally got no idea about so I had to skip it.

The German Karim Adeyemi seems to interested in the move to Juventus. They have submitted offers for him but it's yet to be agreed. I think he is a great player and will be missed whenever he leaves Borrussia Dortmund. They're a profit making club so they will not hesitate to sell.

Arsenal should do all that they can to sell a proven striker. Be it Alexander Isaak, Victor Oshime or Julian Alvarez. They fail to do that, and they'll never win the Premier League next season honestly.

Chelsea under Todd Boehly gradually transformed into a profit making club like Borrussia Dortmund. I don't like how they've sold out core members of Chelsea, but who am I to judge?
Conor Gallagher is a very hardworking person. He might not be to score too many goals but you'll always see hiss impact and work rates. It's a good way to make profits but sad to see him leave.
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I kind of think Napoli is playing games with this Osimhen's deal and wants to profit heavily, Well, wouldn't be in support that Chelsea should go for a loan deal for Osimhen as supposed completely signing of the young star, However, if Napoli isn't interested in selling the young player then the best thing Chelsea should do, is to shun this deal and look for strikers elsewhere who can fit into the club and give the desired result, and besides Osimhen isn't in his best form to be placed on such a high price for buyers, I believe Napoli know what is good for them since none of parties interested don't agree their terms of business.

I assume that Napoli are really looking for a way to release Osimhen at the transfer price they want, but so far no club is really willing to pay Osimhen's release clause to Napoli. Starting from Arsenal, then PSG and Chelsea are also reluctant to bring Osimhen at the price Napoli wants. the latest rumor, the loan option has become hot news. However, Osimhen's agent, Candela, denied the loan of Victor Osimhen. He also said, as if he was a package that had to be sent immediately.  The report also wrote, "to ask to respect Osimhen and stop fake news. So, I'm not sure if the rumors regarding Osimhen's loan are true.
reference https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1818271003912683836



If Napoli wants to make a big profit, it's clear that we can see from Osimhen's release clause. Unfortunately, as we know, one by one the clubs that have submitted proposals or offers are reluctant to meet Napoli's demands, even a club as rich as PSG is not willing to fulfill the agreement with Napoli.
On the other hand, if Napoli is trying to play around with the agreement, but at the same time they are also reported to need fresh funds in this summer's transfer window. Moreover, related to bringing in Lukaku. The possible scenario, if Napoli is not willing to lower Osimhen's transfer price, it is likely that there will be no agreement with any club. Or, in fact, Napoli wants to keep Osimhen by making it difficult for him. Let's just follow the developments, after all there is still time before the transfer window closes.

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While for Chelsea, haven't they previously refused to loan Lukaku back and preferred to sell him permanently to clubs who are currently interested? Currently, Napoli seems to be running out of ideas to sell Osimhen, so if now they want to try borrowing and trading osimhen for Lukaku, but on the other hand, currently Chelsea has brought in a lot of players and they also must to spend a lot of money to borrow Osimhen, then will that be the be a profitable option for Chelsea?

It will be much better if Chelsea agree to a swap deal and get Osimehn on permanent move to their side. They should look at the long time effect that both of this players will have for them and not just what is envisioned now to be the case. They need a good striker for a long time and considering the age of Osimehn, I feel he’s the best choice for that role. Lukaku is already an old player and will only play for few more years before he retires and there no certainty that he can do that much if he remains. Chelse la don’t even plan on using him, selling him is what they prefer most. They should just agree on a swap deal, it will be at their own best interest.

I don't believe Casemiro has been a top performer for Manchester United since joining. In my honest opinion, I think he has been average. He was signed with a lot of money and made the highest-paid player in the team so he had to deliver, but he didn't. He makes a lot of mistakes and is always just ball-watching. When he's not ball-watching he commits unnecessary fouls that lead to straight red cards or second yellows, no discipline whatsoever.

If Casemiro is been blamed in terms of indiscipline, then you’re right and he’s clearly not disciplined enough. Most of the errors he makes always affects the club because they either be one man down or reduce the strength of the team because he won’t be able to be so energetic in marking like before to avoid been sent off if he was initially booked. Casemiro is not a bad choice player but I’ll prefer McTominay to him if a player is to stay back and not leave this transfer window.
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Let’s be realistic here. I know some clubs won’t mind buying Osimhen. But as you can see, no one is willing to spend €120m or so on him. Chelsea are likely to get him on loan + option to buy. This is even possible because Conte wants Lukaku(a player they have tried all their best to get rid off) if Lukaku wasn’t in the Picture, Napoli won’t even entertain the loan discussion. PSG were interested in the deal to bring him to Paris, but the deal suffered a setback. They were adding players to the Osimhen's deal and Napoli indicated interest in one of the players offered I.e. Lee Kang-in, but it didn’t make sense to spend that heavy on just one player.

I think it’ll be a very good deal for Chelsea if they get Osimhen. What is missing in this Chelsea team is a quality striker. Someone that can give 20 league goals in a season. They have a good creative system, so he’ll adapt easily.
You're right. It will be too much for any team to splash such an amount for a player who hasn't been on his best lately but this is not just any other player and I feel they will benefit more if they just buy him since they can afford it. Is it now they want to be cautious by taking him on loan with an option to buy? It's as if they don't want a situation where they will regret the purchase if he doesn't live up to expectations but I don't think Osimhen will disappoint if he comes to Chelsea cause he'd have good feeders of the ball and we know how good he is at finishing unlike Jackson who wastes chances.

While for Chelsea, haven't they previously refused to loan Lukaku back and preferred to sell him permanently to clubs who are currently interested? Currently, Napoli seems to be running out of ideas to sell Osimhen, so if now they want to try borrowing and trading osimhen for Lukaku, but on the other hand, currently Chelsea has brought in a lot of players and they also must to spend a lot of money to borrow Osimhen, then will that be the be a profitable option for Chelsea?

I kind of think Napoli is playing games with this Osimhen's deal and wants to profit heavily, Well, wouldn't be in support that Chelsea should go for a loan deal for Osimhen as supposed completely signing of the young star, However, if Napoli isn't interested in selling the young player then the best thing Chelsea should do, is to shun this deal and look for strikers elsewhere who can fit into the club and give the desired result, and besides Osimhen isn't in his best form to be placed on such a high price for buyers, I believe Napoli know what is good for them since none of parties interested don't agree their terms of business.
I think Osimhen can spend a year on loan at Chelsea. If a high transfer fee is added to the contract as an option, a permanent transfer may be possible depending on his performance at the end of the year. I am sure Osimhen also wants to compete in the Premier League. He will also accept a loan deal. This will be a good result for both teams. Napoli has always wanted Lukaku.
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Rumors about the transfer of Nico Williams now Barcelona almost gave up because there was no more concrete decision, the news also originated from pressure from his own family and club which made it difficult for Barcelona to get the Spanish player.

This means that the Dani Olmo option will now start because this is the second option after Nico Williams failed.
After this news PSG became a priority to recruit Nico Williams, according to the club Enrique can convince the player, meaning that this will rule out Victor Osimhen who is also rumored to be a top priority?

Source about Nico Williams.

https://x.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1818342178734698512
https://x.com/barcacentre/status/1818350857769140234
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Kylian Mbappé buys shares at France ligue 2 club CAEN

Link: https://www.goal.com/en-ng/lists/kylian-mbappe-buys-own-club-real-madrid-star-majority-stake-ligue-2-caen/blt6cf397c0690cb725#csbdcf60dd4cd71fe2

I came across this news in goal.com about Kylian Mbappé buying shares worth €20million in CAEN which is the highest while Pierre-Antin Capton takes the remaining shares of €5 million. I commend the move by the France and Real Madrid international footballer Kylian Mbappé for making the move to own a club of his own by owning the highest stakes in CAEN it's indeed a welcome achievement and I like his style of investment because for a young player like Mbappé to think of buying this huge shares means that the France International is very interested in taking his football career to another dimension, imagine being a player and also owning a club of your own and considering how young the player is, he can even decide to play for his own club in the future so i applaud his bravery at this young age.

What are your thoughts about the recent achievement of Kylian Mbappé?
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