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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 15, 2019, 02:49:16 AM

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 14, 2019, 03:11:35 AM

In fact, let's be honest, just a few clubs can afford him right now.
Real and Barcelona already spent a lot and can't buy new players, Juve don't need him and if he don't want to go to China and retire there, he have no choice but to stay in ManU.

Well Everyone needs him if they can sell other players.

In real Barca or Juve, he will be better than actual players so he will be needed on every team.

For example neither Messi is needed at Real but if he will go he will play and they sell another one, even hazard for him

it is quite difficult for a club to sell players who are loved by many fans to bring in new players, I hope this season the transfer of Juventus is final and there is no need to bring in more players. but for next year I hope Pogba will become a Juventus player.

In my opinion, Juve already have very strong team and not sure if they really need Pogba.
You see, it's very difficult to achieve team unity if you have more than one "big star " in the team.
Very good example is Paris SG last year.
Juve should build their team around Ronaldo and if they bring another star, Pogba, not sure if this will work.
You can't have 2 leaders in the team unless you want to see conflict like in Paris, ManU etc.

Personally i don't think that Juve will get Pogba, considering the price Man Utd. asks from him, last i heared it was 180M euro and he is definitely not worth the money.Even Reak has issue with that amount.And afterall, that money can be spend better.

Don't get me wrong, he is very good player, but in my opinion not a game changer and he won't bring Juve CL trophy, and they are after that.

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In fact, let's be honest, just a few clubs can afford him right now.
Real and Barcelona already spent a lot and can't buy new players, Juve don't need him and if he don't want to go to China and retire there, he have no choice but to stay in ManU.

Well Everyone needs him if they can sell other players.

In real Barca or Juve, he will be better than actual players so he will be needed on every team.

For example neither Messi is needed at Real but if he will go he will play and they sell another one, even hazard for him

it is quite difficult for a club to sell players who are loved by many fans to bring in new players, I hope this season the transfer of Juventus is final and there is no need to bring in more players. but for next year I hope Pogba will become a Juventus player.

In my opinion, Juve already have very strong team and not sure if they really need Pogba.
You see, it's very difficult to achieve team unity if you have more than one "big star " in the team.
Very good example is Paris SG last year.
Juve should build their team around Ronaldo and if they bring another star, Pogba, not sure if this will work.
You can't have 2 leaders in the team unless you want to see conflict like in Paris, ManU etc.

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Quote from: rachman mahesa on August 14, 2019, 08:50:17 AM

Man City Survives FIFA Penalty Transfer Sanctions.
Manchester City survived the ban on the transfer of FIFA players after only receiving a fine of 315 thousand pounds. With this payment of a fine, Manchester City will have the freedom to recruit the players they need in the mid-season window in January.

source: skysports

I can't remember CIty selling any player with high price.
They just keep buying players in expensive prices, which makes them violating the financial fair play again and again. I think that this amount of money for fining them is so low.

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Man City Survives FIFA Penalty Transfer Sanctions.
Manchester City survived the ban on the transfer of FIFA players after only receiving a fine of 315 thousand pounds. With this payment of a fine, Manchester City will have the freedom to recruit the players they need in the mid-season window in January.

source: skysports

Keep in mind this is the small thing.

This has nothing to do with the UEFA investigation for illegal transfers and payments, where they use 13 of 15 sponsors by his owner and where they paid coach with money from other companies.

This had nothing to do with the threat of excluding them from UEFA's Champion League.

It seems like a different case. This is a case where they violate the transfer of a minor, just as the same happened to Chelsea. So, there really isn't anything or news about their spending in the champions league.

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Quote from: rachman mahesa on August 14, 2019, 08:50:17 AM

Man City Survives FIFA Penalty Transfer Sanctions.
Manchester City survived the ban on the transfer of FIFA players after only receiving a fine of 315 thousand pounds. With this payment of a fine, Manchester City will have the freedom to recruit the players they need in the mid-season window in January.

source: skysports

Keep in mind this is the small thing.

This has nothing to do with the UEFA investigation for illegal transfers and payments, where they use 13 of 15 sponsors by his owner and where they paid coach with money from other companies.

This had nothing to do with the threat of excluding them from UEFA's Champion League.

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Quote from: Murat on August 14, 2019, 12:09:52 PM

Recently, the PSG store removed Neymar jersey from their collection. So it might be a sign of confirmation of Neymar's departure. Barcelona is trying really hard to get back Neymar. If Neymar joins Barcelona, Real Madrid will be more in danger.

Barcelona has already offered 100M+Cautinho+Racitic for Neymar but PSG seems to want only cash no swap deal. OTOH, Madrid may get Neymar in the cost of Casemiro+Modric+Cash. All these are very likely true news. We only can wait and wait where it ends up.

Neymar is better of to Barcelona or Real Madrid because PSG fans don’t want him to play for their club anymore, and PSG maybe pressurised to sell him immediately because of their fans. Barcelona will be unbeatable if they get him though, I’m not sure how he and grizeman will fit in Barcelona’s starting lineup. On the other hand Real Madrid badly need his goal scoring abilities, and with him in their team they’ll be able to score lots of goals.

Source: https://talksport.com/football/585964/paris-saint-germain-fans-neymar-thomas-tuchel/

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Recently, the PSG store removed Neymar jersey from their collection. So it might be a sign of confirmation of Neymar's departure. Barcelona is trying really hard to get back Neymar. If Neymar joins Barcelona, Real Madrid will be more in danger.

Barcelona has already offered 100M+Cautinho+Racitic for Neymar but PSG seems to want only cash no swap deal. OTOH, Madrid may get Neymar in the cost of Casemiro+Modric+Cash. All these are very likely true news. We only can wait and wait where it ends up.

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Paris Saint-Germain is reportedly approaching Mauro Icardi. Neymar continues to be speculated towards the exit of Parc Des Princes. He has revealed that he is no longer comfortable in the French capital.

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Quote from: rachman mahesa on August 14, 2019, 08:50:17 AM

Man City Survives FIFA Penalty Transfer Sanctions.
Manchester City survived the ban on the transfer of FIFA players after only receiving a fine of 315 thousand pounds. With this payment of a fine, Manchester City will have the freedom to recruit the players they need in the mid-season window in January.

source: skysports

I stumbled upon this news today, and really pep and his team can breathe a sigh of relief as they've come out of this fix unscathed(315,000 is no money to them)
I think teams like Chelsea, Barcelona etc that have received transfer bans in recent years would be raising eyebrows as to this news, wondering why city are off the hook with just a fine while FIFA sought to ban them from two successive transfer windows when they inturn broke financial fair play rules, it's indeed a beautiful game, isn't it Grin

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Quote from: examplens on August 13, 2019, 06:31:36 PM

He will stay in ManUTD for sure. Real Madrid hasn't enough money for Pogba's transfer. I mean, they must sell because of FFP, but they have so "expensive" players, which no one wants to buy. Juventus can't buy Pogba and can't give them a salary as they have in ManU. At the moment, United does not need to sell them, also they need to have a big star in the club to keep the reputation and satisfied sponsors (just marketing potential). You can remember the last few signings. Di Maria, Falcao, Ibrahimovic, Sanchez, Mourinho etc ...

This is a false statement.

In Italy, we have a new law for workers from other countries, where they need to pay taxes only on 50% of the salary.

For a faster understanding

Pogba now takes € 17.071.600,00, if Juventus wants to pay him the same amount he will cost "only" 17+25%(17)= 21.25m with taxes (same as DeLigt 12+25%(12)=16)

Dybala for example now takes 7.5m with the full taxes, that's mean 7.5+7=14.5 with taxes, not os big difference.

Again the problem is to sell other players before trying to take him.

Yes, I know the new tax rate in Italy. But if you know Ronaldo, De Light, Dybala + Pogba + other players, you will get the very big final sum of expenses. I am not sure that Juventus can cover all of these big salaries. Bruto profit - all expenses must be higher than zero.
They must sell some players to open the budget for expensive players like Pogba.

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Man City Survives FIFA Penalty Transfer Sanctions.
Manchester City survived the ban on the transfer of FIFA players after only receiving a fine of 315 thousand pounds. With this payment of a fine, Manchester City will have the freedom to recruit the players they need in the mid-season window in January.

source: skysports

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 14, 2019, 05:42:35 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on August 14, 2019, 03:11:35 AM

In fact, let's be honest, just a few clubs can afford him right now.
Real and Barcelona already spent a lot and can't buy new players, Juve don't need him and if he don't want to go to China and retire there, he have no choice but to stay in ManU.

Well Everyone needs him if they can sell other players.

In real Barca or Juve, he will be better than actual players so he will be needed on every team.

For example neither Messi is needed at Real but if he will go he will play and they sell another one, even hazard for him

it is quite difficult for a club to sell players who are loved by many fans to bring in new players, I hope this season the transfer of Juventus is final and there is no need to bring in more players. but for next year I hope Pogba will become a Juventus player.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 14, 2019, 03:11:35 AM

In fact, let's be honest, just a few clubs can afford him right now.
Real and Barcelona already spent a lot and can't buy new players, Juve don't need him and if he don't want to go to China and retire there, he have no choice but to stay in ManU.

Well Everyone needs him if they can sell other players.

In real Barca or Juve, he will be better than actual players so he will be needed on every team.

For example neither Messi is needed at Real but if he will go he will play and they sell another one, even hazard for him

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Quote from: examplens on August 13, 2019, 06:31:36 PM

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So if they want they theoretically give to him 19M/y to spend 24M (with taxes) as Real.

What do I think?

He wants Juve, Juve can economically have him if they sell Dybala, ManU can Hate Juve for what happened with Dybala.
Man U have not a top player replacement.

And he will stay at ManU.

He will stay in ManUTD for sure. Real Madrid hasn't enough money for Pogba's transfer. I mean, they must sell because of FFP, but they have so "expensive" players, which no one wants to buy. Juventus can't buy Pogba and can't give them a salary as they have in ManU. At the moment, United does not need to sell them, also they need to have a big star in the club to keep the reputation and satisfied sponsors (just marketing potential). You can remember the last few signings. Di Maria, Falcao, Ibrahimovic, Sanchez, Mourinho etc ...

I think Pogba needs 1 more season to be able to move from Manchester United and join Juventus or Real Madrid, the health of the club financially to buy him will have a bad impact because the price is too expensive and the fees are quite expensive.

In fact, let's be honest, just a few clubs can afford him right now.
Real and Barcelona already spent a lot and can't buy new players, Juve don't need him and if he don't want to go to China and retire there, he have no choice but to stay in ManU.

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Quote from: examplens on August 13, 2019, 06:31:36 PM

He will stay in ManUTD for sure. Real Madrid hasn't enough money for Pogba's transfer. I mean, they must sell because of FFP, but they have so "expensive" players, which no one wants to buy. Juventus can't buy Pogba and can't give them a salary as they have in ManU. At the moment, United does not need to sell them, also they need to have a big star in the club to keep the reputation and satisfied sponsors (just marketing potential). You can remember the last few signings. Di Maria, Falcao, Ibrahimovic, Sanchez, Mourinho etc ...

This is a false statement.

In Italy, we have a new law for workers from other countries, where they need to pay taxes only on 50% of the salary.

For a faster understanding

Pogba now takes € 17.071.600,00, if Juventus wants to pay him the same amount he will cost "only" 17+25%(17)= 21.25m with taxes (same as DeLigt 12+25%(12)=16)

Dybala for example now takes 7.5m with the full taxes, that's mean 7.5+7=14.5 with taxes, not os big difference.

Again the problem is to sell other players before trying to take him.

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Quote from: examplens on August 13, 2019, 06:31:36 PM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 13, 2019, 01:37:13 PM

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So if they want they theoretically give to him 19M/y to spend 24M (with taxes) as Real.

What do I think?

He wants Juve, Juve can economically have him if they sell Dybala, ManU can Hate Juve for what happened with Dybala.
Man U have not a top player replacement.

And he will stay at ManU.

He will stay in ManUTD for sure. Real Madrid hasn't enough money for Pogba's transfer. I mean, they must sell because of FFP, but they have so "expensive" players, which no one wants to buy. Juventus can't buy Pogba and can't give them a salary as they have in ManU. At the moment, United does not need to sell them, also they need to have a big star in the club to keep the reputation and satisfied sponsors (just marketing potential). You can remember the last few signings. Di Maria, Falcao, Ibrahimovic, Sanchez, Mourinho etc ...

I think Pogba needs 1 more season to be able to move from Manchester United and join Juventus or Real Madrid, the health of the club financially to buy him will have a bad impact because the price is too expensive and the fees are quite expensive.

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After seeing yesterday's match for UEFA Champions league round 3 between Ajax and PAOK, I think that van der Beek needs to get a transfer to another club.
This player has a lot of skills and he is talented.
I wonder why he didn't get any offer from big clubs during the transfer window.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 13, 2019, 01:37:13 PM

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So if they want they theoretically give to him 19M/y to spend 24M (with taxes) as Real.

What do I think?

He wants Juve, Juve can economically have him if they sell Dybala, ManU can Hate Juve for what happened with Dybala.
Man U have not a top player replacement.

And he will stay at ManU.

He will stay in ManUTD for sure. Real Madrid hasn't enough money for Pogba's transfer. I mean, they must sell because of FFP, but they have so "expensive" players, which no one wants to buy. Juventus can't buy Pogba and can't give them a salary as they have in ManU. At the moment, United does not need to sell them, also they need to have a big star in the club to keep the reputation and satisfied sponsors (just marketing potential). You can remember the last few signings. Di Maria, Falcao, Ibrahimovic, Sanchez, Mourinho etc ...

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Quote from: Trofo on August 13, 2019, 11:59:22 AM

That line up looks frightening at first glance but who will help the defense? That is perfect line up for breaking scared opponents but someone like Atletico Madrid, a team which can defend and be dangerous on counter attacks would tear them apart. There is way to much finesse in that team and way too little real fighters.

That's the beauty of 4-2-3-1 IMO, despite imposing more defensive responsibilities on the team generally, 2 players in defensive midfield position would likely cover up the tracks, Busquet and De Jong would do, the only vulnerability I see is that the 3 Attacking Midfielders would have more work load as well and the striker could get isolated upfront more often than not.

That is a good formation but I don't see it working with this Barcelona line up. At least 2 from 3 attacking midfielders have to help in defensive phase and I believe only Griezman would do that. In modern football I don't think any team or formation can cover up for more than 2 players. Add to that the fact that Alba will also be in the opponents half all the time and you have a problem. Barca needs that left attacking mid/winger, position which would probably fall to Neymar to cover for Alba and that will simply not happen.

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Quote from: Trofo on August 13, 2019, 11:59:22 AM

That line up looks frightening at first glance but who will help the defense? That is perfect line up for breaking scared opponents but someone like Atletico Madrid, a team which can defend and be dangerous on counter attacks would tear them apart. There is way to much finesse in that team and way too little real fighters.

That's the beauty of 4-2-3-1 IMO, despite imposing more defensive responsibilities on the team generally, 2 players in defensive midfield position would likely cover up the tracks, Busquet and De Jong would do, the only vulnerability I see is that the 3 Attacking Midfielders would have more work load as well and the striker could get isolated upfront more often than not.

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