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I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

That's definitely the point, crypto casinos operate for profit and they see the crypto market as an opportunity as there's no strict regulation for them and they can accommodate any kind of gamblers as they are offers anonymous gambling, so it will not easy be change, that's been the norms of years already.

This is a problem definitely on parenting not a total mistake of gambling houses that do offer anonymous kind of betting specially here on on crypto.They do indeed making profits due to high demand.

They wont really changed up policies or rules just because to save up some minors? Hell no. Even traditional gambling sites wont really make up some changes due to this matter.

Gambling of minors arent really something new on where there are really young minds do get involved even in fiat casinos and how much more into this crypto market.

True, because if they would change, they would have done it before, and the government will already intervene directing the casinos with their mandate.

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Quote from: Questat on August 26, 2020, 05:46:50 PM

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Quote from: erikoy on August 24, 2020, 02:45:14 AM

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

That's definitely the point, crypto casinos operate for profit and they see the crypto market as an opportunity as there's no strict regulation for them and they can accommodate any kind of gamblers as they are offers anonymous gambling, so it will not easy be change, that's been the norms of years already.

that is why there are so many online gambling circulating in cyberspace because they realize that only that way can get a lot of profit and they can also install some code to make gamblers always lose, basically when they have a cryptocurrency-based online gambling place they can get a lot of money .

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It is very important to always communicate with children and provide good or positive and useful things according to their age, and to be supervised when children play with cellphones or other devices and check them.
At present many gambling sites do not have a good level of security and there are many other sites that can damage and affect their mind which should not be done because they are not old enough, and still pay attention to their associations because children's minds are still very impressionable and have curiosity and try .

But we don't have to force them to communicate because we need to give them space to have their privacy, especially when our kids are a teenager. But we always supervised them, even if they don't know that, so if something happens to them, and they need to say something, we always beside them.

If they still kids, we can apply a strict mode in their mobile phone, so when they click links on their phone, the links will not redirect to the destination website. That can prevent them from visiting on a strange website, including preventing them from knowing gambling or porn. Supervised kids will need a big effort because their minds still like a white paper, which is clean.

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I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

I am sure kids can bypass that because they can search for the right way to break it and visit what they want. It is not just about how we can anticipate them to visit on something that they should not yet visit, but how we can stay beside them to explain what they can visit and what they should not visit.

I agree that communicating will be the solution to them, so they can understand that when they are online, there will be many bad things that can harm their minds, especially because they are still kids.

It is very important to always communicate with children and provide good or positive and useful things according to their age, and to be supervised when children play with cellphones or other devices and check them.
At present many gambling sites do not have a good level of security and there are many other sites that can damage and affect their mind which should not be done because they are not old enough, and still pay attention to their associations because children's minds are still very impressionable and have curiosity and try .

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Quote from: Questat on August 26, 2020, 05:46:50 PM

Quote from: semobo on August 25, 2020, 01:33:11 PM

Quote from: erikoy on August 24, 2020, 02:45:14 AM

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

That's definitely the point, crypto casinos operate for profit and they see the crypto market as an opportunity as there's no strict regulation for them and they can accommodate any kind of gamblers as they are offers anonymous gambling, so it will not easy be change, that's been the norms of years already.

This is a problem definitely on parenting not a total mistake of gambling houses that do offer anonymous kind of betting specially here on on crypto.They do indeed making profits due to high demand.

They wont really changed up policies or rules just because to save up some minors? Hell no. Even traditional gambling sites wont really make up some changes due to this matter.

Gambling of minors arent really something new on where there are really young minds do get involved even in fiat casinos and how much more into this crypto market.

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Quote from: semobo on August 25, 2020, 01:33:11 PM

Quote from: erikoy on August 24, 2020, 02:45:14 AM

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

That's definitely the point, crypto casinos operate for profit and they see the crypto market as an opportunity as there's no strict regulation for them and they can accommodate any kind of gamblers as they are offers anonymous gambling, so it will not easy be change, that's been the norms of years already.

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Quote from: erikoy on August 24, 2020, 02:45:14 AM

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

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Quote from: Janation on August 24, 2020, 08:11:21 PM

Quote from: maydna on August 23, 2020, 11:13:33 PM

I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

I am sure kids can bypass that because they can search for the right way to break it and visit what they want. It is not just about how we can anticipate them to visit on something that they should not yet visit, but how we can stay beside them to explain what they can visit and what they should not visit.

I agree that communicating will be the solution to them, so they can understand that when they are online, there will be many bad things that can harm their minds, especially because they are still kids.

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Quote from: Janation on August 24, 2020, 08:11:21 PM

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

No matter what are kids our doing, as long as they are open in media and on the internet, they can still learn how to gamble. Mobile Legends game for example, they might ask for us to buy them diamond (game credits) for them to have their favorite skins or whatever it is that could make the game even better. But the fact that game creators are doing the best way they can to increase the game's profitability, they are implicitly adding gambling in mystery boxes and skins. This has the element of gambling which consists of multipliers and chances to win something. In the end, if we didn't supervised our children, they might be used to it, and the real gambling soon.

Just an advise to always learn what our kids our doing so we know if they are being exposed early to gambling.

Since we are talking about Mobile Legends.

I don't know if a lot of people know about this but while browsing their menus and some of their promotions, I found this page where they give some points to players and they can use it to bet on a team whenever there is a tournament. It is sports betting and that in-game currencies might be a way for them to buy a skin in the game.

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Quote from: Janation on August 24, 2020, 08:11:21 PM

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

No matter what are kids our doing, as long as they are open in media and on the internet, they can still learn how to gamble. Mobile Legends game for example, they might ask for us to buy them diamond (game credits) for them to have their favorite skins or whatever it is that could make the game even better. But the fact that game creators are doing the best way they can to increase the game's profitability, they are implicitly adding gambling in mystery boxes and skins. This has the element of gambling which consists of multipliers and chances to win something. In the end, if we didn't supervised our children, they might be used to it, and the real gambling soon.

Just an advise to always learn what our kids our doing so we know if they are being exposed early to gambling.

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Quote from: maydna on August 23, 2020, 11:13:33 PM

I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

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While I approve the age restrictions as it is known that your brain is not fully formed until your mid-20s, this means a kid and anyone underage is not ready to take responsible decisions with their money and they need to be restricted to get access to casinos.

In the case of physical casinos this is very easy to do as you could ask people to show you an identification in the case they seem to be too young to be there, but when it comes to online casinos this gets more complex, many fiat casinos allow you to play without forcing you to go through KYC and they only do that once you try to cash out, this allows minors to gamble all they want as long as they do not want to withdraw and when you add cryptocurrencies to the mix this seems like one of those issues that has no easy solution.

Gambling and not withdrawing doesn't make sense. No one wants to come up empty.

But yes its always going to be complicated for an online casino to check their users. Minors can just use anyone's ID especially if the system doesn't use sophisticated AI that wil check faces and documents.

It doesn't make sense but since when the actions of those that are addicted to gambling makes sense? Someone that is addicted to gambling and that he is too young to gamble in online fiat casinos will play without a doubt with the hope to win but since they cannot control themselves they will probably keep betting until their balance hits zero and they will have no money to withdraw, then they will deposit money in their accounts and the cycle will begin again.

It is my opinion that this is precisely why casinos do not ask for KYC in the beginning and only do so when you're trying to withdraw because they know they can obtain a lot of money out of those people and still follow the regulations.

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Quote from: Eugenar on August 17, 2020, 12:34:33 PM

This is important. Gambling is not something which allows everyone to engage into it. There's that risk of being addicted into it. If ever kids will not be prohibited to enter or play in gambling sites, not to be exaggerated, but this might push young people to steal in order for them to play. They don't have source of income more likely, so it is really possible.

Gambling sites should really pay attention into this matter by strengthening the requirements for a player to be able to enter the room. KYC sometimes is not enough and I hope there would be a way to regulate and avoid this possibility. And if there is already, I would like to know how it is done.

That is all good and well, but it would take our freedom as well. For instance there are some country's that prohibits online gambling, and in order to escape that restriction, a gambler needs an anonymous site that doesn't require private data to play on it. So in the end, there's no evidence if the government questions his networth.

Maybe, parents should educate and watch their children more often, rather than blaming the gambling site that's only there for entertainment.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on August 23, 2020, 04:48:53 AM

There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

The parents or the guardians should be the one to do that because they are the one that has constant communication and control over the child's behavior, the online casinos can only perceive that those who are joining and playing are matured gambling, the gambling casinos cannot prevent access because people can always use VPN, gambling sites will always allow people who want to play and be entertained.

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I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on August 23, 2020, 04:48:53 AM

There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

I agree.This is the correct way to even prevent smart kids from accessing these gambling sites.The parents can use software in which to tell the DNS server that any website with the words for example “bet,slot,casino” to redirect to an error message.Also the parents should make sure the children to use not an account with administrator privileges as this guarantees they cannot install software such Vpn to bypass the DNS redirect.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on August 23, 2020, 04:48:53 AM

There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

That will surely lower the player of each sites if they implement KYC,remember specially gamblers don't wanna reveal their details thats why there are many Gambling sites that taking advantage of this,they don't ask for KYC until you won big amount and they will surely bugged you after that.

The best way still is the help pf family,watching their family member to not become addicted in gambling would be a big help.

well that is the risk that occurs when someone does KYC at a gambling place because your data and identity cannot be hidden anymore even though such an identity must be kept secret and not just anyone knows, so I think look for a gambling place that doesn't need to do KYC like a place. Fortunejack gambling which can be an alternative gambling place.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on August 23, 2020, 04:48:53 AM

There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

That will surely lower the player of each sites if they implement KYC,remember specially gamblers don't wanna reveal their details thats why there are many Gambling sites that taking advantage of this,they don't ask for KYC until you won big amount and they will surely bugged you after that.

The best way still is the help pf family,watching their family member to not become addicted in gambling would be a big help.

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Quote from: Janation on August 23, 2020, 04:20:33 AM

Quote from: maydna on August 22, 2020, 09:49:10 PM

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At his point all the parents can do is restrict their internet usage.

There are a lot of softwares they can get for them to restrict sites that can influence them into gambling or maybe the adult industry. Each ISPs, as far as I know have these Parental Controls or Parental Locks they can take advantage of so they could monitor or block these sites.

If their kids have a mobile phone, they can restrict them from visiting the gambling site, porn site, or another site, so the kids will not have a chance to visit on that site. The parents need to check their kids' mobile phones and advise their kids to use their mobile phones for good things. I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

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Quote from: maydna on August 22, 2020, 09:49:10 PM

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No need for verification they just need to take the subscription to enjoy the perks and in online gambling it is not going to make much different and many of the gambling sites doesn't have such feature as well because here everyone treated equally.

Yes, you are right. Many gambling sites are created for giving another pleasure for people, so they can use the gambling site to having fun or spend their free time. But people finally lose control while they play gambling, and many of them are losing their money too.

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Quote from: maydna on August 22, 2020, 09:49:10 PM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on August 22, 2020, 04:30:20 AM

No matter how much reputed the crypto gambling site, still it is not good to provide your personal details because here money involves a lot and I don't think any VIP will pass KYC because their privacy is at risk and can be in more danger if someone got access to those details because hack is pretty common in the internet world.

Before someone can have VIP status, they need to verify themselves because they can get many benefits that are not available for regular members. Many people think that they don't have to be a VIP and prefer to be regular members because they don't need that status. They only want to play gambling and make money if they are lucky.

No need for verification they just need to take the subscription to enjoy the perks and in online gambling it is not going to make much different and many of the gambling sites doesn't have such feature as well because here everyone treated equally.

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