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Topic: For the kind attention of the Gambling sites , a small suggestion - page 4. (Read 801 times)

full member
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Parental supervision is the main key so that children do not get involved with gambling sites, which it is feared that children cannot control
themselves, so as not to become addicted to gambling. But the problem is it's difficult to supervise the child 24/7, there must be a moment
for both parents to be busy and children have sufficient free time to access gambling sites. To overcome this, parents must be able to provide
education and understanding that gambling sites are not good for them.
full member
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Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.

Another reason is that if kids want to play as they have money and if they lose this will results some profits to the casinos so this opportunity no business owner would like to give up. And if KYC needs to be done then people may not be willing to share their information due to the trust factor.
sr. member
Activity: 1036
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I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

If at first place only to register at site if KYC is asked, many out just not even register on such site as rightly said that people love to stay being anonymous for various reasons. Unless if the government has imposed or there is a law where it requires mandatory KYC needs to be done than it becomes different story. Also, for kids gambling that nothing can be done if they have money with them, they can use in whichever way they want to. So, role of parents, guardian become important here.

Parents have major rule in this issue since they are the one who can monitor their child and its not really good to have mandatory KYC just for that reason since its so bad to generalize all things on this and risk those other who want to be anonymous online.

But this issue will be no problem at all if government will act as middle man and regulate all the online casino.
If there child is still a minor then they are the liability ones if something bad happen to their child but a parent should teach their child when it comes to putting money on something especially gambling. I think the OP is wrong when he mentioned that gambling is a sport where any people can engage it because there are certain mentality and mindset that is required before getting money out of your pocket.

KYC cannot stop a minor to play gambling, what do I say so because most the generation nowadays are too smart. If I'm still a minor and the online casinos requires me to verify my identity then I will just switch in other casino where I can play anonymously.
hero member
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The rules today are much strichter for kids playing in Casino and they are also more enforced than in the past. A lot of the poker pros we like to watch now on TV these days started as minors playing in illegal poker games. First in some underground games and later in casinos. In the 80s and 90s it was pretty common for the underage poker players to have fake IDs so they could be playing in casino games. It is really hard to judge the maturity of people with a fixed age number, is some with 18 really so much more serious than some with 17 1/2. I agree that all kids should be protected, but if someone has a lot of experience in a game and is aware of the risk he is taking we should have some leniency. We allow kids to drive a car with 16 when a parent is present. Maybe something similar could be done for gambling too? Visiting casinos with a parent? To get a better understanding of the risks involved.
sr. member
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Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.
hero member
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1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.


At the moment, there is no effective mechanism that would restrict minors ' access to online casinos.
KYC can easily be passed with the help of other people's documents (for example, taken from parents) and therefore can't be a guarantee that only adults will play in online casinos.
And ordinary players who care about their anonymity KYC can push away from playing in this casino.
hero member
Activity: 2520
Merit: 783
I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

If at first place only to register at site if KYC is asked, many out just not even register on such site as rightly said that people love to stay being anonymous for various reasons. Unless if the government has imposed or there is a law where it requires mandatory KYC needs to be done than it becomes different story. Also, for kids gambling that nothing can be done if they have money with them, they can use in whichever way they want to. So, role of parents, guardian become important here.

Parents have major rule in this issue since they are the one who can monitor their child and its not really good to have mandatory KYC just for that reason since its so bad to generalize all things on this and risk those other who want to be anonymous online.

But this issue will be no problem at all if government will act as middle man and regulate all the online casino.
hero member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 636
I understand the concern but such incident is a responsibility of the parent alone.
Agree with you on this, parents must be responsible so their minor children won't do stupid things accessing a gambling site.

KYC on the other hand, as being said might going to hinder/doubt potential gamblers to start playin'. Besides, even if several gambling platforms has such requirements, they really won't even know who were betting behind the screen. I mean, the given news might even happen online -- it would the parents who would submit the requirements then they'll just let their children to gamble. So it don't make any sense imo, after all.
Even casinos would not like the idea, it's their advantage over fiat casinos that they don't require KYC to their gamblers.
They might not get big individual bets like fiat casinos have, but crypto casinos could be profitable by attractive volume of small gamblers.
sr. member
Activity: 658
Merit: 274
Wish for the rain? Then deal with the mud too.
I understand the concern but such incident is a responsibility of the parent alone. KYC on the other hand, as being said might going to hinder/doubt potential gamblers to start playin'. Besides, even if several gambling platforms has such requirements, they really won't even know who were betting behind the screen. I mean, the given news might even happen online -- it would the parents who would submit the requirements then they'll just let their children to gamble. So it don't make any sense imo, after all.
hero member
Activity: 1218
Merit: 557
I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

If at first place only to register at site if KYC is asked, many out just not even register on such site as rightly said that people love to stay being anonymous for various reasons. Unless if the government has imposed or there is a law where it requires mandatory KYC needs to be done than it becomes different story. Also, for kids gambling that nothing can be done if they have money with them, they can use in whichever way they want to. So, role of parents, guardian become important here.
sr. member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 276
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Any form of strict regulation won't be that effective restricting minors from gambling. From my view gambling sites are doing the KYC procedure in a perfect manner. This doesn't allow users below age to gamble. The only thing that lets kids gamble is by providing false identities on verification. Maybe there needs to be something advanced to overcome this issue.
hero member
Activity: 2982
Merit: 610
I have also seen this news recently, and for me, even if gambling sites will require KYC, I think minors would still find ways to gamble if they want. Just like what happened in the article you give, the security is tighter because it's a physical casino where they can personally check their IDs, but they still manage to get in and gamble before being caught.
Minors are smart also, they can always find a way to verify their account if KYC is required, but at least it would be considered as good control for casinos to minimize the abuse from the minors, yeah, this time its the minors who are abusing as they lied when they sign up, they check that 18+ though they aren't.

And not everyone will prefer KYC that's why for me, it's not just the casino operator's (whether it's physical or online) responsibility to stop minors from gambling. Minors should be guided by their guardians about this kind of interest, but look at the news, it's her mother who sneaked her inside the casino.

For me, I would prefer an anonymous gambling but if time will come that our government will take that away from us, there's nothing we can do, unless there's what we called decentralized gambling.
legendary
Activity: 3346
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We have conflicting arguments on this issue we don't want KYC and yet we have to protect our kids, I don't like KYC in gambling and parents should be the one to monitor activities of their kids online up until the time they are matured enough to fully understand that gambling is for those who can afford only and it should be for entertainment, parents should see to it that their kids have that outlook while they are growing.
hero member
Activity: 1694
Merit: 516
Kids should not be included in this kind of activity, gambling should not be taught to them.

There are a lot of things that a kid should focused on, studying and playing games, but not these gambling games that can ruin their future.

KYC is really important to secure the platform and also the customers who are accessing it. It is not that their privacy will be taken but it is for the safety of the regulation in a certain gambling casino. Age limits are really required so that we know if the customer is in the legal age to access casinos.

Risks in gambling are so high that it can cause damage in to a young person's mental health if he loses.

The only problem I see with when telling kids to don't do something, they will just do it for the sake of acting against their parents. Especially if they see grown ups doing it. If something is forbidden it just makes it more desireable. It would be better to include gambling into any education. Better to try and make them understand why it's a bad thing in the young age and can lead to addiction.

I agree with you, this type of measure is in contradiction with the crypto philosophy : libertarian, decentralized and anonymous.
If people think KYC is a better thing, there is no point in gambling with cryptos anymore. Fiat gambling is perfect for that.

But how would you than make sure that no underage kids play on the casino then? Kids have access to FIAT or crypto currencies.
hero member
Activity: 2576
Merit: 666
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It is an issue that has been a problem for quite some time now tbh. Normal gambling (online or offline) usually take care of KYC procedures and there's no problem there, but crypto gambling embodies what crypto is for, specifically anonymity. By providing KYC, what's the point of playing on crypto sites? In fact, they'd just be able to connect my identity to my wallet, which is a lot more information than normal KYC on regular casinos. I admit, minors shouldn't be allowed, and there should be somehow a way to prevent them, but KYC on crypto sites? That's a no-no. Let KYC stay on regular casinos, and let crypto casinos stay as they are.

The most helpful solution here after KYC would mostly fall on parent regulation of their kids tbh. Sadly, that seems different to implement on ALL families out there, since they can't really keep watch of them 24/7.
copper member
Activity: 658
Merit: 402
I have also seen this news recently, and for me, even if gambling sites will require KYC, I think minors would still find ways to gamble if they want. Just like what happened in the article you give, the security is tighter because it's a physical casino where they can personally check their IDs, but they still manage to get in and gamble before being caught.

And not everyone will prefer KYC that's why for me, it's not just the casino operator's (whether it's physical or online) responsibility to stop minors from gambling. Minors should be guided by their guardians about this kind of interest, but look at the news, it's her mother who sneaked her inside the casino.
sr. member
Activity: 2618
Merit: 439
I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.
I agree with you, this type of measure is in contradiction with the crypto philosophy : libertarian, decentralized and anonymous.
If people think KYC is a better thing, there is no point in gambling with cryptos anymore. Fiat gambling is perfect for that.
But the problem is Casinos usually don't ask for KYC while you are playing but once you Hit a Good win?then this is the start of sacrifice because they will Push KYC and in the end will accuse you of having multiple account in which categorized as cheating.
how many cases we have seen here and until now this is happening .
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 2353
I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.
I agree with you, this type of measure is in contradiction with the crypto philosophy : libertarian, decentralized and anonymous.
If people think KYC is a better thing, there is no point in gambling with cryptos anymore. Fiat gambling is perfect for that.
full member
Activity: 1540
Merit: 219
Kids should not be included in this kind of activity, gambling should not be taught to them.

There are a lot of things that a kid should focused on, studying and playing games, but not these gambling games that can ruin their future.

KYC is really important to secure the platform and also the customers who are accessing it. It is not that their privacy will be taken but it is for the safety of the regulation in a certain gambling casino. Age limits are really required so that we know if the customer is in the legal age to access casinos.

Risks in gambling are so high that it can cause damage in to a young person's mental health if he loses.
full member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 118
if you only knew , other countries have minors that are notorious when it comes to gambling because they cut classes just to play  . they smoke , drink and do things too aside from gambling that supposed to be for adults only . schools do have a lack of security because students can go out whenever they want but gambling owner's shouldnt also allow this kids because somtimes they only care about the profit
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