FortuneJack making 120,000 dollars disappear from my account! - page 3.

PaperWallet

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Look at these bastards AskGamblers. They don't even allow their visitors to see what complaints have been filed against casinos. Look at the complaints on my account below: 3 for FortuneJack rejected (same 120,000 dollars complaint), and one for RoyalRabbit also rejected for 88,000 euros.

And by the way, the complaint you see for RoyalRabbit Casino, of 88,000 euros, (now has been transformed to Cabarino.com), contacted me today saying they apologise for the closure of my account a month ago, and since they were paying me 2000 euros per week, now they paid 8000 euros to make it for the time lost. BUT, on askgamblers, they don't even deem it worthy for others to see. Some other businesses should come and put Askgamblers out of business.

Askgamblers is doing a terrible disservice for the players.

PaperWallet

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Quote from: Dumbmotherf on April 02, 2022, 08:14:45 AM

Quote from: PaperWallet on October 30, 2021, 06:21:47 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on October 30, 2021, 06:15:20 AM

Did you try to make any bets after they wiped all your bet history just for the sake kf finding they are showing or not?

Its really a serious issue which can ruin the reputation of FJ and this hasn't been the first time we see accusations against them whenever someone won huge amount, just curious about what is going to be there reply for this?

Lol of course not. I just immediately panicked-cashed out what was left. I mean if my withdrawal addresses were just ready I would have cashed out all 899 XMR.

How did those accusations after big wins end? Were they similar (where they just wipe out the balance of a player) or just some cashout hardships?

Quote from: mindrust on October 30, 2021, 03:08:21 AM

You proabably bankrupted fuck out of the casino and now they are in panic thinking about creative ways of scamming you without making much noise.

We should listen to them first though. Maybe they 'll make it right and I was wrong.

If this is a casino in the crypto space since 2013 and they panic for this..... What are you leaving for the other websites? I think I was playing with some of the most trusted casinos out there. Now if you aren't going to get paid when you win big, then this would hurt all centralized casinos out there. Never in my mind I thought 250k would be a big amount in their eyes.

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Do you not realise 97% of gamblers are $5-$20 depositors and a casino craps their pants when someone with real money comes along..! Gamdom have duped me out of $223,000 (spoken to high profile streamers Ayezee and have screenshots of our conversations where he stopped playing there purely cause of problems withdrawing high wins. Playing on slots. I won 14,910x from a $10 bet ($149,912) .. Gamdom refused to pay and removed my bet history … funnily enough MAX CAPPED the game Lil Devil to 1,338x shortly after. Crapped. Their. Pants.

Refused to pay back my deposits. Let alone win. They’ve got the love of their 14-17 year old fan base defending them at every Avenue. These crypto casinos are scams.

I hope Fortune Jack correct this win.

No to be honest I still think that is not a lot of money for them. They're just stupid greedy. It will tarnish their reputation forever and will probably cost them more than benefit. Plus don't forget that God exists and there will be judgment for this theft.

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Quote from: PaperWallet on October 30, 2021, 06:21:47 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on October 30, 2021, 06:15:20 AM

Did you try to make any bets after they wiped all your bet history just for the sake kf finding they are showing or not?

Its really a serious issue which can ruin the reputation of FJ and this hasn't been the first time we see accusations against them whenever someone won huge amount, just curious about what is going to be there reply for this?

Lol of course not. I just immediately panicked-cashed out what was left. I mean if my withdrawal addresses were just ready I would have cashed out all 899 XMR.

How did those accusations after big wins end? Were they similar (where they just wipe out the balance of a player) or just some cashout hardships?

Quote from: mindrust on October 30, 2021, 03:08:21 AM

You proabably bankrupted fuck out of the casino and now they are in panic thinking about creative ways of scamming you without making much noise.

We should listen to them first though. Maybe they 'll make it right and I was wrong.

If this is a casino in the crypto space since 2013 and they panic for this..... What are you leaving for the other websites? I think I was playing with some of the most trusted casinos out there. Now if you aren't going to get paid when you win big, then this would hurt all centralized casinos out there. Never in my mind I thought 250k would be a big amount in their eyes.

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Do you not realise 97% of gamblers are $5-$20 depositors and a casino craps their pants when someone with real money comes along..! Gamdom have duped me out of $223,000 (spoken to high profile streamers Ayezee and have screenshots of our conversations where he stopped playing there purely cause of problems withdrawing high wins. Playing on slots. I won 14,910x from a $10 bet ($149,912) .. Gamdom refused to pay and removed my bet history … funnily enough MAX CAPPED the game Lil Devil to 1,338x shortly after. Crapped. Their. Pants.

Refused to pay back my deposits. Let alone win. They’ve got the love of their 14-17 year old fan base defending them at every Avenue. These crypto casinos are scams.

I hope Fortune Jack correct this win.

PaperWallet

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AskGamblers, just now, after giving them all evidence, is asking me to give them, within TWELVE HOURS, a screenshot of my correspondance with the regulatory body of FortuneJack, otherwise my case will be dismissed FOREVER and no possible to file a new complaint. As if people are obliged to be connected 24/7 on their computers. I told them sorry I will not be stopping all my activities in order to do that. What an insane place to be in.

Update: As expected, they rejected my complaint for not giving them my conversation with regulator within 12 hours. Not a big deal, since they were going to reject it anyway.

PaperWallet

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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on March 15, 2022, 04:54:24 PM

What can we say and judge? So far Fortunejack has had little to no problems with players on the forum. You will not get any information about the VIP manager. NUMBER will not be related to any particular company or person. Only thing I can conclude is that the user has legitimately won his bet, or Fortunejack Must provide proof that it was about wrong odds, you sometimes see that on betting sites that bets can be canceled for that reason. It may take a while to resolve, it's about $120,000, that's a lot of money. The FortuneJack Representative will no doubt also come up with a further statement to bring this to a solution for both parties.

They just decided to target me with this huge win. They think they'll be ok with 120,000 dollars more if only one player is complaining.

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What can we say and judge? So far Fortunejack has had little to no problems with players on the forum. You will not get any information about the VIP manager. NUMBER will not be related to any particular company or person. Only thing I can conclude is that the user has legitimately won his bet, or Fortunejack Must provide proof that it was about wrong odds, you sometimes see that on betting sites that bets can be canceled for that reason. It may take a while to resolve, it's about $120,000, that's a lot of money. The FortuneJack Representative will no doubt also come up with a further statement to bring this to a solution for both parties.

PaperWallet

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Quote from: BaBaGucci on December 22, 2021, 01:31:18 AM

Quote from: FortuneJack on November 01, 2021, 06:50:47 AM

Would love to clarify things around us accepting the bets. Usually it's impossible for the Sportsbooks in general to manually overview every bet that comes in on a daily basis. Usually they're checked afterwards, if there's any concerns coming in around the topic. In case of the loss, betslips would be nullified and funds would be refunded back to the user.

Here's the proof showcasing company's behavior to the similar cases, this one purely indicates the fact that we've already has similar case with the OP, where identical bets were placed onto two separate betslips and after the loss, the stake was refunded back to the user.

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Tornike

This is why Fortunejack will never become a successful and competing crypto casino in the market. This casino was one of the first crypto casinos to hit the market back in 2014 and you stuggle to get and keep players because of these exact reasons like using shady ass tactics to screw players when you see fit. Whether or not that rule was pasted in your terms for this exact issue, that is the most absurd rule I've ever heard for a sportsbook to use and incorporate because almost all sportsbook bettors will have many identical bets.

Guys if you want a no nonsense casino that won't pull these shady ass scams then go somewhere else. I personally love to play at stake. There's a reason they leading the crypto gaming and sportsbook market right now fact.

So sick of these weak ass casinos like Fortunejack that constantly try to find new ways to screw their loyal players constantly and then they can't figure out why they been declining the last 5 years. Get a clue f***ing retards

Completely agree with this. Rollbit are launching their sportsbook soon and will buy some of their NFTs. I will be contacting them about this issue as a marketing idea. They should be swapping out all of fortunejack's customers

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Quote from: FortuneJack on November 01, 2021, 06:50:47 AM

Would love to clarify things around us accepting the bets. Usually it's impossible for the Sportsbooks in general to manually overview every bet that comes in on a daily basis. Usually they're checked afterwards, if there's any concerns coming in around the topic. In case of the loss, betslips would be nullified and funds would be refunded back to the user.

Here's the proof showcasing company's behavior to the similar cases, this one purely indicates the fact that we've already has similar case with the OP, where identical bets were placed onto two separate betslips and after the loss, the stake was refunded back to the user.

https://i.ibb.co/WxhpTxn/6.png

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Tornike

This is why Fortunejack will never become a successful and competing crypto casino in the market. This casino was one of the first crypto casinos to hit the market back in 2014 and you stuggle to get and keep players because of these exact reasons like using shady ass tactics to screw players when you see fit. Whether or not that rule was pasted in your terms for this exact issue, that is the most absurd rule I've ever heard for a sportsbook to use and incorporate because almost all sportsbook bettors will have many identical bets.

Guys if you want a no nonsense casino that won't pull these shady ass scams then go somewhere else. I personally love to play at stake. There's a reason they leading the crypto gaming and sportsbook market right now fact.

So sick of these weak ass casinos like Fortunejack that constantly try to find new ways to screw their loyal players constantly and then they can't figure out why they been declining the last 5 years. Get a clue f***ing retards

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I read the entire thread and think PaperWallet should be paid and fortunejack is hiding behind unfair terms.

PaperWallet

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Quote from: Woodie on December 09, 2021, 01:21:18 PM

Just saw this on FJs twitter page,that mini accumulator was a crazy bet, 20xmr for 401 xmr awesome mate but what is fortunejack's position on this case because these inplay bets won based on the maximum allowed monero per bet and the problem here is its not one betslip that won, its several of them. So why isnt fortunejack returning these funds if no explanation has been given to the player??

Why do you think? Isn't it that when you bet and your bets are accepted and you win, you expect to get paid? They're just being dishonest, and I intend to get this known to the maximum number of people.

Now as far as to what their answer was, they said that "who will win until the end of the match" and "final result" was the same bet. So they added both of those wins and discovered they were worth 200,000 euros so it's 100,000 euros more than the max. So they decided to pay only 95,000 euros worth of cryptocurrency. And for the missing 5000 euros, they gave no explanation.

You can also check this report on them here: https://www.gamblinggrumbles.com/Reports/Fortunejack-Casino_paid-only-half

If you are affiliated with other gambling websites that are competing with FortuneJack, you can contact them as they have the means to get this known to a wider sportsbetting audience.

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Just saw this on FJs twitter page,that mini accumulator was a crazy bet, 20xmr for 401 xmr awesome mate but what is fortunejack's position on this case because these inplay bets won based on the maximum allowed monero per bet and the problem here is its not one betslip that won, its several of them. So why isnt fortunejack returning these funds if no explanation has been given to the player??

PaperWallet

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Here's a report on FortuneJack on a gambling website that is worthy of its name:

https://www.gamblinggrumbles.com/Reports/Fortunejack-Casino_paid-only-half

NB: This post has been deleted by the moderator with no explanation whatsoever. Moderator could you please explain why? I have, on the advice on many senior members here, put the effort to create this thread with all evidence. I am not breaking any terms of use by posting this.

If you are going to continue deleting my posts, I suggest you censor all this thread altogether, because it wouldn't be fair for you to keep only the posts that are in favour of FortuneJack. So: you either keep this, or delete everything. I'll go elsewhere.

PaperWallet

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I asked CloudBet for their opinion on this, and I got one. I've read about a player on CloudBet who won 300 BTC, back when BTC was 10k. It took them some while, but they ended up paying. This is not something that they would have done.

Here's an extract of their answer:
"[......]
The key points are they weren’t identical bets in either stake or markets, and the shady nature of voiding bets after resulting, without prior correspondence is indefensible, topped off by the disappearance of your bet history.

[......] It is clear FortuneJack are just trying to close this issue, in the face of public forums.

I appreciate you are waiting for resolution on this matter, but for future reference Cloudbet allows repeated bets on the same market (until specific player limits are reached) and likewise would not cap potential payouts, for accepted wagers. Given Cloudbet's sportsbook has been in operation longer than FortuneJack and trades to a lower margin, with higher limits, I'm curious why your previous play was limited to the casino at Cloudbet?
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BaBaGucci

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You can also use Askgamblers or LCB to submit an official complaint. This way Askgamblers acts as the referee so to speak. I prefer askgamblers as they are your best success at a fair case. I have personally won every outcome on askgamblers

PaperWallet

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Quote from: LEVSKI7 on November 11, 2021, 06:20:58 PM

https://lms-advocaten.com/en/lms-curacao-gaming-lawyers/ -Haven't you written to the Curaçois lawyer yet?
Curaço license does not give them the right to accept customers from the EU. But there is a sanction only for bookmakers and some countries sue them and take a lot of money

Not yet. This would be the first time in my life that I sue somebody, and I never got sued myself. I know some shady things also happen with lawyers who try to make the case take forever so someone should be careful as well.

The shame also is when I contacted AntillePhone N.V. about this I got no response whatsoever. They only had to say that FortuneJack had the right to make half of my balance disappear, that the max win was 100,000 euros, and gave no explanation as to why only 95,000 euros were paid.

But I think mostly their public figures should also be followed and called out on this during their public appearances. This shouldn't go unnoticed.

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https://lms-advocaten.com/en/lms-curacao-gaming-lawyers/ -Haven't you written to the Curaçois lawyer yet?
Curaço license does not give them the right to accept customers from the EU. But there is a sanction only for bookmakers and some countries sue them and take a lot of money

PaperWallet

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Quote from: LEVSKI7 on November 11, 2021, 03:47:36 PM

Quote from: shasan on November 10, 2021, 01:12:02 PM

Quote from: PaperWallet on November 09, 2021, 03:33:48 PM

And last BUT NOT LEAST: Ok, so now they're telling everybody that they have the right to not honour their bets according to their terms and conditions. Does their license authorise them to offer gambling services to French players? Do they have "the right" to do that according to their terms? Because I have passed KYC with them (they obliged before a withdrawal) and continued to offer those services. Interesting point to check, but I will be consulting with lawyers.

So finally you are going to take consultation from a lawyer, it is a good sign to invest few dollars while you have won 95k$. It is time to invest few and the lawyer have right to earn few money by providing you the consultation. And finally they will follow the terms as well as your winning and your case will be in vain.

Of course, they do not have the right to accept clients from France, but also from any other country. But if the authorities in France find out, they will ruin them. Report illegal activity on the site. Grin

They actually do have the right to accept from some countries but not from France (it is actually not covered by their license). Some of them are hidden somewhere but their CEO at least has his face shown to public. So we have a place where we can start.

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Quote from: shasan on November 10, 2021, 01:12:02 PM

Quote from: PaperWallet on November 09, 2021, 03:33:48 PM

And last BUT NOT LEAST: Ok, so now they're telling everybody that they have the right to not honour their bets according to their terms and conditions. Does their license authorise them to offer gambling services to French players? Do they have "the right" to do that according to their terms? Because I have passed KYC with them (they obliged before a withdrawal) and continued to offer those services. Interesting point to check, but I will be consulting with lawyers.

So finally you are going to take consultation from a lawyer, it is a good sign to invest few dollars while you have won 95k$. It is time to invest few and the lawyer have right to earn few money by providing you the consultation. And finally they will follow the terms as well as your winning and your case will be in vain.

Of course, they do not have the right to accept clients from France, but also from any other country. But if the authorities in France find out, they will ruin them. Report illegal activity on the site. Grin

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 10, 2021, 08:34:03 AM

Quote from: PaperWallet on November 10, 2021, 01:05:15 AM

And by the way, wasn't it you defending them saying they'll refund loosing bets if the possible winnings exceed 100 k euros? It's been a week but you haven't given any examples yet.

You're the one making the allegation to the contrary so it would be up to you to prove it. I'm not defending anyone and I already said that's it's a shitty practice to cancel bets instead of preventing them, but that doesn't make you right.

You're a very smart guy.

Quote from: shasan on November 10, 2021, 01:12:02 PM

Quote from: PaperWallet on November 09, 2021, 03:33:48 PM

And last BUT NOT LEAST: Ok, so now they're telling everybody that they have the right to not honour their bets according to their terms and conditions. Does their license authorise them to offer gambling services to French players? Do they have "the right" to do that according to their terms? Because I have passed KYC with them (they obliged before a withdrawal) and continued to offer those services. Interesting point to check, but I will be consulting with lawyers.

So finally you are going to take consultation from a lawyer, it is a good sign to invest few dollars while you have won 95k$. It is time to invest few and the lawyer have right to earn few money by providing you the consultation. And finally they will follow the terms as well as your winning and your case will be in vain.

I don't care about the 95k. Some people here even consider me lucky I even got that paid. So that's how it works in Curaçao casinos, you're lucky if your paid. But we will see, I think someone should pay the price of those winning bets and it's not going to be me.

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Quote from: PaperWallet on November 09, 2021, 03:33:48 PM

And last BUT NOT LEAST: Ok, so now they're telling everybody that they have the right to not honour their bets according to their terms and conditions. Does their license authorise them to offer gambling services to French players? Do they have "the right" to do that according to their terms? Because I have passed KYC with them (they obliged before a withdrawal) and continued to offer those services. Interesting point to check, but I will be consulting with lawyers.

So finally you are going to take consultation from a lawyer, it is a good sign to invest few dollars while you have won 95k$. It is time to invest few and the lawyer have right to earn few money by providing you the consultation. And finally they will follow the terms as well as your winning and your case will be in vain.

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