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Quote from: justdimin on October 22, 2021, 11:15:01 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on October 22, 2021, 02:23:19 AM

And not a question about being illegal. As Trofo said, a question about becoming a profitable business, to serve actual customers, and not freebie searching people

I do not agree with the freebie searching people part, it is totally fine if you are freebie searching and someone is offering it. I would get it if it was some other place that doesn't offer it, but fortunejack literally has a game that gives 10k dollars to winner and entry is free, of course there will be people who are freebie searching here, so not depositing makes sense in this case, not all the time but on this case that makes sense.

Of course it's fine for you and for us, I never said it wasn't. I mean, I'm the one here who was made inactive because I haven't made a deposit in 6 months and I'm the one here playing MajesticSeven right?

Why would I say something against myself?

But try running a business and see if you're going to serve actual paying customers more than freeloaders. Your job and FJ's job is to think of profits first and foremost.

Anyway, I'm ignoring any more comments about this issue and will look into depositing before end of the year to enjoy second half of MajesticSeven Wink

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Quote from: Bitinity on October 22, 2021, 09:24:34 PM

As usual, dont forget to submit your entries for the Majestic 7 matchday 9. Last matchday (8th), I got 3/7 only and now matchday 9 seems to be another hard matchday to get at least 5/7. Here is my pick for matchday 9: Vardy, Mahrez, Benteke, Townsend, Hee Chan Hwang, Armando Broja and Harry Kane. What do you think and how about your pick?

For some reason, I thought I remembered Arsenal being in the lineup, so when Auba scored (well, after missing the penalty first), thought I'd snagged the first one as he's gotta be in my selection if he's named in the first 11.

But Brentford-Leicester are first up so yeah, Vardy's also my first pick but I actually think new boy Daka's on fire. Benteke looked good against Arsenal, Hwang's gonna be at least having a couple of shots on target, so not bad.

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As usual, dont forget to submit your entries for the Majestic 7 matchday 9. Last matchday (8th), I got 3/7 only and now matchday 9 seems to be another hard matchday to get at least 5/7. Here is my pick for matchday 9: Vardy, Mahrez, Benteke, Townsend, Hee Chan Hwang, Armando Broja and Harry Kane. What do you think and how about your pick?

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 22, 2021, 02:23:19 AM

Not sure that's really the case for FortuneJack. Databases these days do a lot of purging already for non active accounts, but I'm sure there's not too many of use here facing this issue on the forum. And I thought data was cheap these days. You could store a million usernames and passwords for less than a gig I'm sure!

And not a question about being illegal. As Trofo said, a question about becoming a profitable business, to serve actual customers, and not freebie searching people

That's the case here, database is not cheap because you have to keep it growing if you never purge them, sure you get under 1 gig if you stop it there, but it will keep on growing and growing and growing. So, why not spend 500 bucks with limitations when the alternative is thousands and increasing? So, purging here and there makes sense.

I do not agree with the freebie searching people part, it is totally fine if you are freebie searching and someone is offering it. I would get it if it was some other place that doesn't offer it, but fortunejack literally has a game that gives 10k dollars to winner and entry is free, of course there will be people who are freebie searching here, so not depositing makes sense in this case, not all the time but on this case that makes sense.

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Probably he won some money from FJ promotion as they seem not asking for KYC AFAIK if you play without activating bonus/promotion, also IIRC they asked KYC for $1,000 withdrawal.

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Quote from: deadley on October 22, 2021, 04:47:09 AM

Wow did not know, I have to do KYC for 1st withdrawal i am taking in year....

I didn't know that either. I've had some withdrawals before from FortuneJack, but I didn't have to complete KYC.
Is it a large sum of money? (if you don't mind sharing that information)

Yes, this applies for large sum of money because I personally have few small withdrawals, and they never give any headache works very good just have one problem I receive withdrawal confirmation email without writing word withdrawal, and it's not confirmed but after having talk with online support this was also cleared very quickly, and I was able to withdraw my funds in few hours.

If this rules coming in last few days then may be now next time I also have to do this but now before depositing again I will try to have all updates from online support because my last withdrawal was happened in June, and now it's nearly 4 months may be this rules added by them recently.

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Quote from: deadley on October 22, 2021, 04:47:09 AM

Wow did not know, I have to do KYC for 1st withdrawal i am taking in year....

It is written in Terms and conditions and FAQ

I don't know the requirements in FAQ, is it implemented recently?

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8.4. In the event when the Company suspects any of the activities set out in Section 7.3, the Company takes necessary measures to examine the backgrounds of any those activities, including, but not limited to, seeking additional independent, reliable sources to verify the information provided and to determine whether the transaction to be suspicious, taking additional measures to understand the background, ownership and financial situation of the User and other parties to the transaction, making a video or voice call with the User by any means of electronic communications, assessing whether the transaction is consistent with the purpose and intended nature of the business relationship, increasing the monitoring of the business relationship and applying greater scrutiny to the transaction made. At the point where the threshold is reached, the Company may put all funds owed to the Customer into an account (or equivalent) from and on which no withdrawals and deposits can be made, until CDD is completed successfully, to the full satisfaction of the Company.

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Requirements for making the withdrawal
There are 3 necessary requirements:

Verify your account
2x turnover deposit amount
Minimum withdrawal amount of 0.004 BTC

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Quote from: deadley on October 22, 2021, 04:47:09 AM

Wow did not know, I have to do KYC for 1st withdrawal i am taking in year....

I didn't know that either. I've had some withdrawals before from FortuneJack, but I didn't have to complete KYC.
Is it a large sum of money? (if you don't mind sharing that information)

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Quote from: justdimin on October 21, 2021, 11:36:42 AM

I would like to say that this is a database issue. Unfortunately these days database control is getting more and more expensive, servers are not cheap and that is why these companies are getting their account number lower because that would be a lot cheaper for them. I understand that closing these accounts with minimum required information there so that you could restart them whenever you feel like coming back.

However in this case, we could literally just not deposit anything and just gamble with the free stuff. Like majesic7 and guessing 7 goal scorers, we all love that right? Why would I want to be depositing if I am only interested in that? Is it illegal to be only doing that?

Not sure that's really the case for FortuneJack. Databases these days do a lot of purging already for non active accounts, but I'm sure there's not too many of use here facing this issue on the forum. And I thought data was cheap these days. You could store a million usernames and passwords for less than a gig I'm sure!

And not a question about being illegal. As Trofo said, a question about becoming a profitable business, to serve actual customers, and not freebie searching people

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Quote from: justdimin on October 21, 2021, 11:36:42 AM

However in this case, we could literally just not deposit anything and just gamble with the free stuff. Like majesic7 and guessing 7 goal scorers, we all love that right? Why would I want to be depositing if I am only interested in that? Is it illegal to be only doing that?

I would say it is not illegal to do that but those players are not actually target audience for FJ. They are doing promos to keep old players and attract new ones. Definition of player in previous sentence is something like "User who deposits money and preferably losses more than wins"

Every bookie is a business and they are not here to sponsor us for free.

I don't know if this is the reason for recent accounts purge or database costs as somebody mention above but it does not matter. It is logical decision from their side and one that should have been expected even earlier.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 20, 2021, 02:37:22 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on October 19, 2021, 07:54:29 PM

I do not want my account to be considered as dormant account so I just checked my account and my last deposit was on May. Seems that I will get the same email as what you got few days back if I will not make any deposit in the next few months. But it is good to hear that there is a way to unlock the account once the account is locked due to inactivity so we do not need to create a new account.

No worries, as OP/FJ says, yeah, we can just request to unlock the account when we're ready to deposit.

I still hope the can reconsider manually approving people on this forum to continue using their accounts without depositing. I mean, for the active gamblers anyway. But fully understand why they'd want to do that, just I think they could accidentally lose actual gamblers just for this one rules I haven't seen anywhere else.

I would like to say that this is a database issue. Unfortunately these days database control is getting more and more expensive, servers are not cheap and that is why these companies are getting their account number lower because that would be a lot cheaper for them. I understand that closing these accounts with minimum required information there so that you could restart them whenever you feel like coming back.

However in this case, we could literally just not deposit anything and just gamble with the free stuff. Like majesic7 and guessing 7 goal scorers, we all love that right? Why would I want to be depositing if I am only interested in that? Is it illegal to be only doing that?

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Quote from: add1ct3dd on October 20, 2021, 03:33:23 PM

I would say that no account should be getting "dormant" or basically terminated just because they did not deposited anything for a while. There are other places that does something similar but for the accounts that had "never" deposited and that would understandable but right now we are talking about the people who did deposited but didn't for a while, there is a difference because in one of them you actually did deposits at one point. This is why I believe that if you haven't been here for a year then that is fine, if you never deposited that is fine, but the accounts that did deposit at one time and haven't in a while shouldn't be getting terminated.

Reading from Tornike's post, I think you only have to log in once in a year for your account to be active. The six months deposit requirement is only for new accounts, not for old accounts (that have made several deposits). If I'm wrong about this, I think FJ should give email notice as it's difficult to remember when was our last deposit.

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Quote from: Trofo on October 20, 2021, 11:50:27 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on October 20, 2021, 04:46:06 AM

Lastly it’s bad cause it’ll hurt real gamblers pride if they’re locked out, and those who’re not aware of getting their account restored will end up creating multiple accounts which will lead to unnecessary scam accusations.

What pride, if you are a real gambler put up some money and your account will not get disabled

Saying that as one of the guys who are under the threat of account being disabled. I'll just deposit a couple hundred $ and problem solved. I was contemplating to do it or not but in the end I got swayed by Majestic 7 promotion. That is something unique to FJ site which you can't get elsewhere. And it is always good to have money on multiple bookies, easier to get better odds and more markets.

My advice to all those people contemplating multiple accounts: don't do it. Sites like FJ which have promos where multi accounts could get you big advantages, must have good protocols to catch multi accounts otherwise they would be out of business.

Yeah, what pride hehe. If there is anything that can be said about gamblers, being one myself, that most of them have no pride. They can be gambling 1 BTC today and then begging for rain or other free stuff the next day.

FJ already gave the option to us to manually contact and get the account restored so there's already one way in.

Anyway, time to move on. I'm glad my original question was answered, and I know have a clear idea of what to do going forward. 1 mbtc is now $66 dollars anyway. If you don't have that to deposit, no need to gamble, right?

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Quote from: add1ct3dd on October 20, 2021, 03:33:23 PM

I would say that no account should be getting "dormant" or basically terminated just because they did not deposited anything for a while. There are other places that does something similar but for the accounts that had "never" deposited and that would understandable but right now we are talking about the people who did deposited but didn't for a while, there is a difference because in one of them you actually did deposits at one point. This is why I believe that if you haven't been here for a year then that is fine, if you never deposited that is fine, but the accounts that did deposit at one time and haven't in a while shouldn't be getting terminated.

So this do talks about dormant accounts shouldnt really be that blocked or being terminated but basing off with no activity lets say for a year then it is just right that they do really terminate it.

You know that websites do really like to free up some space and whenever they do saw those inactive accounts then they would normally be taking that kind of step.
It is just understandable because who would thought that users would be coming back after a year? most like those accounts had been forgotten.

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I would say that no account should be getting "dormant" or basically terminated just because they did not deposited anything for a while. There are other places that does something similar but for the accounts that had "never" deposited and that would understandable but right now we are talking about the people who did deposited but didn't for a while, there is a difference because in one of them you actually did deposits at one point. This is why I believe that if you haven't been here for a year then that is fine, if you never deposited that is fine, but the accounts that did deposit at one time and haven't in a while shouldn't be getting terminated.

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Why are your NBA odds so low? I see you offer odds based on a 1,85/1,85 margin, both pre-match and live. This is way worse than the average bookmaker.

Why did you choose to offer your customers such low value on your NBA odds? Any chance you can increase the odds soon?

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 20, 2021, 04:46:06 AM

Lastly it’s bad cause it’ll hurt real gamblers pride if they’re locked out, and those who’re not aware of getting their account restored will end up creating multiple accounts which will lead to unnecessary scam accusations.

What pride, if you are a real gambler put up some money and your account will not get disabled

Saying that as one of the guys who are under the threat of account being disabled. I'll just deposit a couple hundred $ and problem solved. I was contemplating to do it or not but in the end I got swayed by Majestic 7 promotion. That is something unique to FJ site which you can't get elsewhere. And it is always good to have money on multiple bookies, easier to get better odds and more markets.

My advice to all those people contemplating multiple accounts: don't do it. Sites like FJ which have promos where multi accounts could get you big advantages, must have good protocols to catch multi accounts otherwise they would be out of business.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 20, 2021, 02:37:22 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on October 19, 2021, 07:54:29 PM

I do not want my account to be considered as dormant account so I just checked my account and my last deposit was on May. Seems that I will get the same email as what you got few days back if I will not make any deposit in the next few months. But it is good to hear that there is a way to unlock the account once the account is locked due to inactivity so we do not need to create a new account.

No worries, as OP/FJ says, yeah, we can just request to unlock the account when we're ready to deposit.

I still hope the can reconsider manually approving people on this forum to continue using their accounts without depositing. I mean, for the active gamblers anyway. But fully understand why they'd want to do that, just I think they could accidentally lose actual gamblers just for this one rules I haven't seen anywhere else.

@slaman29 this rule is good and bad too, good in a way because it’ll reduce free or inactive player’s on FJ, which will give them a good idea about the activity on their site and they can plan promotions accordingly.

Lastly it’s bad cause it’ll hurt real gamblers pride if they’re locked out, and those who’re not aware of getting their account restored will end up creating multiple accounts which will lead to unnecessary scam accusations.

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Quote from: Bitinity on October 19, 2021, 07:54:29 PM

I do not want my account to be considered as dormant account so I just checked my account and my last deposit was on May. Seems that I will get the same email as what you got few days back if I will not make any deposit in the next few months. But it is good to hear that there is a way to unlock the account once the account is locked due to inactivity so we do not need to create a new account.

No worries, as OP/FJ says, yeah, we can just request to unlock the account when we're ready to deposit.

I still hope the can reconsider manually approving people on this forum to continue using their accounts without depositing. I mean, for the active gamblers anyway. But fully understand why they'd want to do that, just I think they could accidentally lose actual gamblers just for this one rules I haven't seen anywhere else.

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