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Quote from: dezoel on June 19, 2021, 01:26:05 PM

However they are not doing well when it comes to live betting at all, what is the reason for that?

That's because live betting can be more profitable than pre live knowing you could get better odds on the favorites if they go down early.

Quote from: Juggy777 on June 20, 2021, 08:42:56 AM

@dezoel I feel that more members need to raise their voice on this issue, because there’re less NBA fans and hence it’s important to alert the support collectively. Furthermore are you’ll facing this issue in other live sport bets too?, as I wager less and so far I have felt that their live odds were on par whenever I saw for soccer matches.

That depends on their players and how much they care about the site, if there's not much crypto sportsbook available i'd support the complaint as well but now that we have a lot of gambling sites competing in the sportsbook side you're better off shopping for odds rather than complaining imo.

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Quote from: dezoel on June 19, 2021, 01:26:05 PM

Quote from: GekkeBelg on June 17, 2021, 07:52:50 PM

I'm checking now the live odds on NBA playoff game Bucks-Nets and the margin of odds you offer is 1,83 vs 1,84 (or therefore 1,835 vs 1,835) which is bizarre low odds compared to other bookmakers. Most of them have 1,92 vs 1,92 on such a big league, especially now that it's playoffs.

So since you finally improved your Euro2020 live betting odds, can you maybe improve your NBA live betting odds too?
I'm sure you can still make a profit (even more actually, cause more people will be betting) if your odds are 1,92 vs 1,92 or something around that.

What I find such interesting situation is that their non-live bets are not bad odds neither. So that means they are not providing bad odds if you wager before the game starts, they are really doing something that is definitely right at that part of the deal and that is a good thing.

However they are not doing well when it comes to live betting at all, what is the reason for that? If the pre-match odds were bad I would say that this place is generally a bad place to wager and has a sportsbook with bad odds and that would be understandable, it would be bad but at least it would make sense to have bad odds both on before and after, however when the beforehand is good and the live is bad it is a bit weird isn't it? In any case you can't always have a place that has the best odds, I just believe the trust covers the difference for me and I will just continue with pre-match ones.

@dezoel I feel that more members need to raise their voice on this issue, because there’re less NBA fans and hence it’s important to alert the support collectively. Furthermore are you’ll facing this issue in other live sport bets too?, as I wager less and so far I have felt that their live odds were on par whenever I saw for soccer matches.

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Quote from: GekkeBelg on June 17, 2021, 07:52:50 PM

I'm checking now the live odds on NBA playoff game Bucks-Nets and the margin of odds you offer is 1,83 vs 1,84 (or therefore 1,835 vs 1,835) which is bizarre low odds compared to other bookmakers. Most of them have 1,92 vs 1,92 on such a big league, especially now that it's playoffs.

So since you finally improved your Euro2020 live betting odds, can you maybe improve your NBA live betting odds too?
I'm sure you can still make a profit (even more actually, cause more people will be betting) if your odds are 1,92 vs 1,92 or something around that.

What I find such interesting situation is that their non-live bets are not bad odds neither. So that means they are not providing bad odds if you wager before the game starts, they are really doing something that is definitely right at that part of the deal and that is a good thing.

However they are not doing well when it comes to live betting at all, what is the reason for that? If the pre-match odds were bad I would say that this place is generally a bad place to wager and has a sportsbook with bad odds and that would be understandable, it would be bad but at least it would make sense to have bad odds both on before and after, however when the beforehand is good and the live is bad it is a bit weird isn't it? In any case you can't always have a place that has the best odds, I just believe the trust covers the difference for me and I will just continue with pre-match ones.

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Quote from: GekkeBelg on June 16, 2021, 03:30:10 PM

Well FJ finally improved their Euro 2020 live betting odds. Good to see.

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Well, I'm checking now the live odds on NBA playoff game Bucks-Nets and the margin of odds you offer is 1,83 vs 1,84 (or therefore 1,835 vs 1,835) which is bizarre low odds compared to other bookmakers. Most of them have 1,92 vs 1,92 on such a big league, especially now that it's playoffs.

So since you finally improved your Euro2020 live betting odds, can you maybe improve your NBA live betting odds too?
I'm sure you can still make a profit (even more actually, cause more people will be betting) if your odds are 1,92 vs 1,92 or something around that.

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Quote from: FortuneJack on June 17, 2021, 04:08:41 AM

Quote from: GekkeBelg on June 16, 2021, 03:30:10 PM

Well FJ finally improved their Euro 2020 live betting odds. Good to see.

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Always trying to adapt and meet the needs of the fellow members over here at the bitcointalk.

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There seems to be some sort of miscommunication because even though you read here that people are complaining about nearly .10+ odd changes compared to other places, you still do not have any type of improvement at all, it is still not doing great. I liked playing here on premier league for example because the odds were good and now looking at euro it is not that great and there doesn't seem to be any changes in the odds at all.

So, I would have to say that you need to change the way your odds are calculated, I understand that you need to make a profit as well but when something is 2.00 here and 2.10 in somewhere else, guess where people will play? This way you are losing customers, I had some money deposited here and it wasn't big amount so I couldn't just withdraw it and deposit somewhere else because then I would lose most of it, but if I had a lot of money I definitely would have gone somewhere else.

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Quote from: FortuneJack on June 17, 2021, 04:08:41 AM

Quote from: GekkeBelg on June 16, 2021, 03:30:10 PM

Well FJ finally improved their Euro 2020 live betting odds. Good to see.

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Tornike

I didn't get the chance yet to also check your NBA live betting odds.....did you finally improve them also or are they still at a lousy 1,83 vs 1,83?

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Quote from: GekkeBelg on June 16, 2021, 03:30:10 PM

Well FJ finally improved their Euro 2020 live betting odds. Good to see.

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Well FJ finally improved their Euro 2020 live betting odds. Good to see.

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Quote from: GekkeBelg on June 11, 2021, 02:44:15 PM

Hello FortuneJack.....what is going on with your odds? Your odds in livebetting are getting worse and worse....

Even on such a BIG tournament like Euro2020 you only offer live odds of 1,83/1,83 (seen right now on Over/Under 1,5 goals in Italy-Turkey game).....that is a crazy bookie margin......most bookies offer 1,92/1,92 or some even 1,94/1,94.

Why don't you dare to offer a bit less juice to your customers? It's not like it's a dodgy league from an exotic country where you don't know any players of.

I think it's really really sad to offer these low odds for your customers....and it will scare them away and drive them to your competitors....so please think about improving but it's your own decision.

To add on the topic, 2 or 3 months ago I have been in contact with fortunejack support about it:
'''

Me:
I was wondering why the margin has been increased on ATP 1000 tennis lately. The odds are not so good anymore compared to Pinnacle for example.
5:55 pm
Is it temporary?
the margin was set at 3 to 5% now it is more 7 to 9%
Lily:
Hold on please
thanks
This coefficient is set by the provider so we can not tell if it is temporary or not, it may change according to the provider
'''

So No idea if it will change in the good way for the customers ...

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Quote from: wildan88 on June 14, 2021, 03:59:17 PM

Quote from: GekkeBelg on June 14, 2021, 03:42:11 PM

Quote from: dezoel on June 14, 2021, 03:03:59 PM

Fortunejack was never the "best odds you can ever find" in sportsbooks but it is not really "that" different neither. Looking at that Netherlands Ukraine thing for example we can see that the draw odds was the best one there is anywhere, the best odds for Netherlands was 1.61 and fortunejack had 1.58 which is insanely close, and yeah Ukraine had 6.0 whereas the best was 6.5 which is a shame it is big difference but the other two is quite close or even the best so I would say that would be quite understandable.

The Ukraine one doesn't make sense because the odds for Netherlands was lower than the best but Ukraine was lower as well at the same time. In any case, 2/3 is not bad, I would take that and it is definitely understandable difference. I know that odds are what makes a place best, but trust is another situation and instead of some of those places, I would rather use fortunejack because I trust them more.

Have a look at their live odds during an Euro2020 game and you'll see how bad it is compared to others

It just depends on which matches and odds you watch. It cannot be that all odds are lower than other sportsbooks. That will have to do with certain markets. If the value of A is lower to win, the value of B will be higher. I think they also have a lot of matches offering other markets with appropriate higher odds.

You don't get it. They have the same odds provider as many other bookies, such as Betcoin. But the juice of Fortune jack is much higher.....if betcoin has 1,92/1,92....FJ have 1,84/1,84. Much, much worse on Euro2020 live odds. The odds move the same, only FJ always has 8% lower odds than betcoin....have a look.
So it's not like on some games FJ has better odds, it's just structurally 8% lower on live games in Euro2020 and NBA.

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Quote from: GekkeBelg on June 14, 2021, 03:42:11 PM

Quote from: dezoel on June 14, 2021, 03:03:59 PM

Fortunejack was never the "best odds you can ever find" in sportsbooks but it is not really "that" different neither. Looking at that Netherlands Ukraine thing for example we can see that the draw odds was the best one there is anywhere, the best odds for Netherlands was 1.61 and fortunejack had 1.58 which is insanely close, and yeah Ukraine had 6.0 whereas the best was 6.5 which is a shame it is big difference but the other two is quite close or even the best so I would say that would be quite understandable.

The Ukraine one doesn't make sense because the odds for Netherlands was lower than the best but Ukraine was lower as well at the same time. In any case, 2/3 is not bad, I would take that and it is definitely understandable difference. I know that odds are what makes a place best, but trust is another situation and instead of some of those places, I would rather use fortunejack because I trust them more.

Have a look at their live odds during an Euro2020 game and you'll see how bad it is compared to others

It just depends on which matches and odds you watch. It cannot be that all odds are lower than other sportsbooks. That will have to do with certain markets. If the value of A is lower to win, the value of B will be higher. I think they also have a lot of matches offering other markets with appropriate higher odds.

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Quote from: dezoel on June 14, 2021, 03:03:59 PM

Fortunejack was never the "best odds you can ever find" in sportsbooks but it is not really "that" different neither. Looking at that Netherlands Ukraine thing for example we can see that the draw odds was the best one there is anywhere, the best odds for Netherlands was 1.61 and fortunejack had 1.58 which is insanely close, and yeah Ukraine had 6.0 whereas the best was 6.5 which is a shame it is big difference but the other two is quite close or even the best so I would say that would be quite understandable.

The Ukraine one doesn't make sense because the odds for Netherlands was lower than the best but Ukraine was lower as well at the same time. In any case, 2/3 is not bad, I would take that and it is definitely understandable difference. I know that odds are what makes a place best, but trust is another situation and instead of some of those places, I would rather use fortunejack because I trust them more.

Have a look at their live odds during an Euro2020 game and you'll see how bad it is compared to others

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Fortunejack was never the "best odds you can ever find" in sportsbooks but it is not really "that" different neither. Looking at that Netherlands Ukraine thing for example we can see that the draw odds was the best one there is anywhere, the best odds for Netherlands was 1.61 and fortunejack had 1.58 which is insanely close, and yeah Ukraine had 6.0 whereas the best was 6.5 which is a shame it is big difference but the other two is quite close or even the best so I would say that would be quite understandable.

The Ukraine one doesn't make sense because the odds for Netherlands was lower than the best but Ukraine was lower as well at the same time. In any case, 2/3 is not bad, I would take that and it is definitely understandable difference. I know that odds are what makes a place best, but trust is another situation and instead of some of those places, I would rather use fortunejack because I trust them more.

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Quote from: Godzilliy on June 13, 2021, 11:10:19 AM

FORTUNEJACK please comment!

Are you going to offer low odds for the whole European Championship? or the next round will this shame be corrected?

I saw someone posting the odds for the EURO match and it's not too much different just a few % you can see it here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57225987
Is this different from what you see? btw I'm not sure the odds control is on Fortunejack I'm guessing it's on the 3rd party a kind of market provider

@Godzilliy did you contact the support because only they’ll be able to give you a quick solution for this issue, and if you’re getting better odds elsewhere then you should play there. Furthermore I haven’t tried wagering yet on Euros on FJ, but in the past I found their odds on par with what I was getting from other sites, but @BitcoinHunt3r I’m not sure if they actually control the odds or use a third party for it.

From what I know the system is indeed on a third party those who set the odds and the betting market just like slot games like pragmatic, PlaynGo as a provider
So the suggestion to contact support I think is also useless because they can't do much unless they are willing to change service providers.

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My experience? Yes, odds are a tiny bit lower on FortuneJack for sports, but when you put in the promos (I talk especially about the 4+1 Freebet promo) then the value increases exactly by 25% (bet 100 units and get back 25 units as freebet). It's all averaged out too so it's exactly 25%.

That and the other loyalty bonuses add up:) So yes, straight odds, it doesn't really do well (not 100% but mostly).

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on June 13, 2021, 03:38:50 PM

Quote from: Godzilliy on June 13, 2021, 11:10:19 AM

FORTUNEJACK please comment!

Are you going to offer low odds for the whole European Championship? or the next round will this shame be corrected?

I saw someone posting the odds for the EURO match and it's not too much different just a few % you can see it here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57225987
Is this different from what you see? btw I'm not sure the odds control is on Fortunejack I'm guessing it's on the 3rd party a kind of market provider

@Godzilliy did you contact the support because only they’ll be able to give you a quick solution for this issue, and if you’re getting better odds elsewhere then you should play there. Furthermore I haven’t tried wagering yet on Euros on FJ, but in the past I found their odds on par with what I was getting from other sites, but @BitcoinHunt3r I’m not sure if they actually control the odds or use a third party for it.

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Quote from: Godzilliy on June 13, 2021, 11:10:19 AM

FORTUNEJACK please comment!

Are you going to offer low odds for the whole European Championship? or the next round will this shame be corrected?

I saw someone posting the odds for the EURO match and it's not too much different just a few % you can see it here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57225987
Is this different from what you see? btw I'm not sure the odds control is on Fortunejack I'm guessing it's on the 3rd party a kind of market provider

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Are you going to offer low odds for the whole European Championship? or the next round will this shame be corrected?

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