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Quote from: SyGambler on March 26, 2019, 12:14:32 PM

can you please fix the delay problem with your odds provider cause literally my last 9 bet attempts failed and odds dropped really hard
in all of these occasions FJ had slightly better odds than the other bitcoin bookmakers , but after trying to place the bets I will wait like 1 minute or so then get an error message saying that the odds dropped ( and the drops are really really high )

when you first introduced the bookie this never happened with me

Hey what did the support staff say about this as it’s quite interesting to find out since you say FJ offers higher odds than other sports book. Also did you take some time after opening a page to place your bets, or you tried to bet instantly and yet the error happened. I have used their sport books sparingly but haven’t seen this issue yet, so hopefully they’ll fix it before it effects all.

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Meh.

Quote from: DarkStar_ on March 26, 2019, 08:47:10 PM

Quote from: Hhampuz on March 26, 2019, 07:31:32 PM

Quote from: SyGambler on March 26, 2019, 12:14:32 PM

can you please fix the delay problem with your odds provider cause literally my last 9 bet attempts failed and odds dropped really hard
in all of these occasions FJ had slightly better odds than the other bitcoin bookmakers , but after trying to place the bets I will wait like 1 minute or so then get an error message saying that the odds dropped ( and the drops are really really high )

when you first introduced the bookie this never happened with me

I've noticed that if you have the sportsbook open and then go away and do other things for a while and then come back to place your bets, unless you refresh, all odds will have stayed the same. So by then when you want to place your bets it will prompt you about the odds changing. Try and refresh each time that you want to place bets in order to have no issues (I never get any). If there are major drops however that may be a different issue.

It still happens after multiple refreshes and a hard refresh :/
(at least in my experience)

hmm, that's weird. Then again I only use the book like once a week so perhaps I've just been lucky enough so far. Hopefully we'll get an update on why this happens and if there's anything being done about fixing it.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 17, 2019, 12:35:38 PM

Hey Fortunejack is a legit site there’s no doubt about it, there’re two kind of posts that users post here one who’s received payments late, and other one is where user is upset after loosing. In the case of former posts I have seen they’re always paid up, if it’s a huge amount sometimes it gets delayed but in the end they clear it. While for the latter they cannot do anything about it, and those posters tend to label FJ as a a scam site but people are smart they know whose reviews they need to trust.

Fortune Jack is a big site, and it has good reliabilty history.
When gamblers get lost, they tend to felt more pessimistic, dissapointed themselves, and with the site, of course.
So, such complaints made after losses usually contain something not really true, in most cases.
I don't say they say lies with their complaints after lost, but they often exaggerate issues (if there are issues) a little bit bigger, and more serious.

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Quote from: Hhampuz on March 26, 2019, 07:31:32 PM

Quote from: SyGambler on March 26, 2019, 12:14:32 PM

can you please fix the delay problem with your odds provider cause literally my last 9 bet attempts failed and odds dropped really hard
in all of these occasions FJ had slightly better odds than the other bitcoin bookmakers , but after trying to place the bets I will wait like 1 minute or so then get an error message saying that the odds dropped ( and the drops are really really high )

when you first introduced the bookie this never happened with me

I've noticed that if you have the sportsbook open and then go away and do other things for a while and then come back to place your bets, unless you refresh, all odds will have stayed the same. So by then when you want to place your bets it will prompt you about the odds changing. Try and refresh each time that you want to place bets in order to have no issues (I never get any). If there are major drops however that may be a different issue.

It still happens after multiple refreshes and a hard refresh :/
(at least in my experience)

Hhampuz

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Meh.

Quote from: SyGambler on March 26, 2019, 12:14:32 PM

can you please fix the delay problem with your odds provider cause literally my last 9 bet attempts failed and odds dropped really hard
in all of these occasions FJ had slightly better odds than the other bitcoin bookmakers , but after trying to place the bets I will wait like 1 minute or so then get an error message saying that the odds dropped ( and the drops are really really high )

when you first introduced the bookie this never happened with me

I've noticed that if you have the sportsbook open and then go away and do other things for a while and then come back to place your bets, unless you refresh, all odds will have stayed the same. So by then when you want to place your bets it will prompt you about the odds changing. Try and refresh each time that you want to place bets in order to have no issues (I never get any). If there are major drops however that may be a different issue.

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can you please fix the delay problem with your odds provider cause literally my last 9 bet attempts failed and odds dropped really hard
in all of these occasions FJ had slightly better odds than the other bitcoin bookmakers , but after trying to place the bets I will wait like 1 minute or so then get an error message saying that the odds dropped ( and the drops are really really high )

when you first introduced the bookie this never happened with me

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Hey FJ,
I have a request for you to reduce the minimum bet of your plinko and mines game. It is possible, isn't it? At the current minimum bet which is 0.1mbtc = 10k satoshi, it is too much for some low bankroll players. I think it will be good to attract new users if you allow your players to bet lower amount. We can play with 1 satoshi at dice, so why it is not possible to do the same on your own other games (plinko, mines, and adrenaline)? Any specific reasons why you set the minimum bet to 10k satoshi (equally to other coins)?
One more question about the adrenaline game. There are 3 kind of jackpots (bps, bpm, and bph), but I cant find detail information on how the jackpot works. Only find this:

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The jackpot amount is shared in proportion to the bets.The jackpots are played randomly by the randomly selected time. The bets that are cashed out before 2 bps do not participate in the jackpot draw.

Mind to share about the proportion to the bets?

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Hi dear player and @askgamblers,

We are unable to provide
We have already explained the situation in details.
This is how the theory of probability works:
While increasing the number of rolls the percentage gets closer to betting percent.
Win chance on the higher bets was less because the number of bets was lower.

We kindly ask @askgamblers to show this case to someone who is well aware in the provably fair games and knows the theory of probability.

We are looking forward to the fair judgment.

Thank you!

https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/fortunejack-casino-dice-scam-with-proof

~~Unable~~ Don't want to provide.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on March 17, 2019, 03:26:51 PM

I think finding some issues and claiming its scam are totally different stuff. I mean even if you are fortunejack of course there could be some bugs, glitches, some problems etc etc, you can find an issue in any place, for example primedice is the oldest and most known one out there and they still have bug bounty on their games at stake and some find some bugs there as well. Just because there are "issues" in the website doesn't mean its automatically a scam.

Fortunejack probably has a bit of issues time to time, developer problems and with enough debugging it could be solved, aside from that I do not think they are scam at all, fortunejack is one of the most trusted and loved places on earth and they are already making insane amount of profit already so they do not need a reason to scam people anyway.

Guys, you tell here about your positive experience with withdrawals when you won something and you have no questions to the casino. But the concern here is the fairness of the casino. FJ doesn't want to provide the data that was absolutely legitimately requested by the player and this data is normally provided by all the other casinos. This data can reveal something or why does FJ ignore this request?

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I think finding some issues and claiming its scam are totally different stuff. I mean even if you are fortunejack of course there could be some bugs, glitches, some problems etc etc, you can find an issue in any place, for example primedice is the oldest and most known one out there and they still have bug bounty on their games at stake and some find some bugs there as well. Just because there are "issues" in the website doesn't mean its automatically a scam.

Fortunejack probably has a bit of issues time to time, developer problems and with enough debugging it could be solved, aside from that I do not think they are scam at all, fortunejack is one of the most trusted and loved places on earth and they are already making insane amount of profit already so they do not need a reason to scam people anyway.

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Quote from: Apriand on March 17, 2019, 08:24:00 AM

From my experience since 2017, Fortunejack is legit site i never have a problem with my deposit and withdrawal. And today i just made 0.005 btc from faucet in dice (yes, its just small amount) and try to withdraw 0.0045 its come just in minutes.
Never think in my mind, fortunejack wil become scam site.

Hey Fortunejack is a legit site there’s no doubt about it, there’re two kind of posts that users post here one who’s received payments late, and other one is where user is upset after loosing. In the case of former posts I have seen they’re always paid up, if it’s a huge amount sometimes it gets delayed but in the end they clear it. While for the latter they cannot do anything about it, and those posters tend to label FJ as a a scam site but people are smart they know whose reviews they need to trust.

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From my experience since 2017, Fortunejack is legit site i never have a problem with my deposit and withdrawal. And today i just made 0.005 btc from faucet in dice (yes, its just small amount) and try to withdraw 0.0045 its come just in minutes.
Never think in my mind, fortunejack wil become scam site.

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Quote from: MakeMoneyBtc on March 16, 2019, 02:47:18 PM

If FortuneJack would have been a scam they would have disappeared from the market a long time ago because they already made a lot of money with their casino. There will always exist persons that have different problems with casinos and say it is a scam but that's normal because it's impossible to see a perfect casino only with positive reviews.

Good can turn to bad, trusted sites can turn to scam sites.
All things can happen in real life, but for Fortune Jack, I think that there is very low probabilty that the site turned into scam one.\
Nothing is impossible, I meant, but the opportunity to see FJ turns into scam site is so small.
I even can not envision that how the site can become a scam one. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: MakeMoneyBtc on March 16, 2019, 02:47:18 PM

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on March 14, 2019, 06:33:33 AM

In a word, I would like to say "If Fortune Jack turned to scam, it is something like a big bag in new era of crypto, one of the worst since the Mt. Gox years ago".
It's unrealistic to happen for such long-aged and high-trusted casino, like Fortune Jack.
Even when you don't have your own experience with the site, let's simply look at who participated in its signature campaign.
Most of them got high trust points, and the one makes sense, right?
It's unbelievable when high trusted users promoted scam projects. Not only one, but also bunches of high trusted users.
It's unreasonable to say FJ is scam.

If FortuneJack would have been a scam they would have disappeared from the market a long time ago because they already made a lot of money with their casino. There will always exist persons that have different problems with casinos and say it is a scam but that's normal because it's impossible to see a perfect casino only with positive reviews.

The easy way to defend reputation is just giving the requested full history. Not providing this history for a long time with no explanation is very suspicious. The casino may have been always a scam, but no one had a chance to check it. As I have already mentioned the Curacao license doesn't give us any guarantees of trustworthy.

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on March 14, 2019, 06:33:33 AM

In a word, I would like to say "If Fortune Jack turned to scam, it is something like a big bag in new era of crypto, one of the worst since the Mt. Gox years ago".
It's unrealistic to happen for such long-aged and high-trusted casino, like Fortune Jack.
Even when you don't have your own experience with the site, let's simply look at who participated in its signature campaign.
Most of them got high trust points, and the one makes sense, right?
It's unbelievable when high trusted users promoted scam projects. Not only one, but also bunches of high trusted users.
It's unreasonable to say FJ is scam.

If FortuneJack would have been a scam they would have disappeared from the market a long time ago because they already made a lot of money with their casino. There will always exist persons that have different problems with casinos and say it is a scam but that's normal because it's impossible to see a perfect casino only with positive reviews.

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on March 14, 2019, 06:33:33 AM

In a word, I would like to say "If Fortune Jack turned to scam, it is something like a big bag in new era of crypto, one of the worst since the Mt. Gox years ago".
It's unrealistic to happen for such long-aged and high-trusted casino, like Fortune Jack.
Even when you don't have your own experience with the site, let's simply look at who participated in its signature campaign.
Most of them got high trust points, and the one makes sense, right?
It's unbelievable when high trusted users promoted scam projects. Not only one, but also bunches of high trusted users.
It's unreasonable to say FJ is scam.

I completely understand your position, but please check this thread: https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/fortunejack-casino-dice-scam-with-proof
If they have nothing to hide, why would FJ representative ignore the question about providing the full history? That should be very easy for the company and would have solved the issue if FJ is really legit. What FJ does is just avoiding the discussion and sending some shills here to do the dirty job for them instead of making a clear official response with the requested data.

The trust points on the profiles which participate in the signature campaign mean that FJ pays a lot for having these signatures, nothing more.

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Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 26, 2019, 04:38:50 PM

Quote from: upsidedown75 on February 26, 2019, 12:01:41 PM

It is insane that people think just 2000 bets would somehow "show the real odds in fortunejack" while not realizing there is a luck chance involved in shorter amount of bets so you would need to play thousands of hands to make it possible to determine the reality, maybe even a million.

You can't just gamble 2 thousand times and expect that everything will be exactly the same, there are tough luck times and there are lucky times, its all about the timing, if you want the house edge to get into affect you would have to look at so much more bets that in the end you should be tired even if its autobet. Companies with high cpu power do auto betting for hundreds of millions of times in order to determine if a casino is legit or not for white hack security purposes, your 2 thousand is funny compared to that.

The man said FJ would NOT give him his complete history but only 2000. So based on the 2000 he was able to obtain its shows that the game is indeed rigged.

I'm just the man you mentioned. FJ refused to give me my complete history without any reason. I had 181 thousand rolls in fact. the lastest are just the sample of the 181 thousand rolls. What's more, similar things happened through out the 181k rolls, which included the 2000 ones of course, that the chance for a losing streak happening when you keep doubling the bets to a rather high value. But long losing streaks seldom happen on bets being kept low. So dont' say my conclusion is based on 2000 rolls! It's a fact throught out 181k rolls!

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In a word, I would like to say "If Fortune Jack turned to scam, it is something like a big bag in new era of crypto, one of the worst since the Mt. Gox years ago".
It's unrealistic to happen for such long-aged and high-trusted casino, like Fortune Jack.
Even when you don't have your own experience with the site, let's simply look at who participated in its signature campaign.
Most of them got high trust points, and the one makes sense, right?
It's unbelievable when high trusted users promoted scam projects. Not only one, but also bunches of high trusted users.
It's unreasonable to say FJ is scam.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on March 13, 2019, 10:18:03 AM

The problem here is that people who yell "scam" is actually not providing proof that is technical what so ever.

If you feel like you are scammed than you need to do more than just "in 2000 bets" type of calculations to prove that fortunejack is a scam, I mean its been said before a million times, 2000 bets is a very very very small sample size when you make these kinds of accusations, there is really no hard concrete proof fortunejack scammed anyone here yet you go around yelling you got scammed.

Do you really think there other people who got scammed by fortunejack too? Well, then find those people and provide proof of them as well, not "technically if these 2000 bets are like this they do it all the time", no I mean "here is the seed here is the result, concrete proof of scam" type of proofs. Otherwise this is just an assumption and nothing else.

SMH, if you want to continue on supporting FJ then go ahead. FJ is a roguish casino. Anyone who plays here deserves whatever faith they receive.

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The problem here is that people who yell "scam" is actually not providing proof that is technical what so ever.

If you feel like you are scammed than you need to do more than just "in 2000 bets" type of calculations to prove that fortunejack is a scam, I mean its been said before a million times, 2000 bets is a very very very small sample size when you make these kinds of accusations, there is really no hard concrete proof fortunejack scammed anyone here yet you go around yelling you got scammed.

Do you really think there other people who got scammed by fortunejack too? Well, then find those people and provide proof of them as well, not "technically if these 2000 bets are like this they do it all the time", no I mean "here is the seed here is the result, concrete proof of scam" type of proofs. Otherwise this is just an assumption and nothing else.

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