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i also have to say when playing slots the amount wagered is massive. even if you lose just a little or win alittle the amount wargered is big


casino games amount wagered goes up x10 faster than dice


when they had weekly contest i would have 2500rdd a spin on slots on all day long. atthe end of the day i may have lost 100-200k rdd but i wagered like 30 million rdd


just saying they have a lot of casino games and casino rev is way diffrent than dice rev.

Yeah, I think you are talking about Fortune Slots. It is true, most spins will lose or win only a small amount. But the bitcoin wagered amount is impossibly high, imo. 14 million Bitcoins is NOT possible.


14 million bitcoin is all alt coins added up together
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i also have to say when playing slots the amount wagered is massive. even if you lose just a little or win alittle the amount wargered is big


casino games amount wagered goes up x10 faster than dice


when they had weekly contest i would have 2500rdd a spin on slots on all day long. atthe end of the day i may have lost 100-200k rdd but i wagered like 30 million rdd


just saying they have a lot of casino games and casino rev is way diffrent than dice rev.

Yeah, I think you are talking about Fortune Slots. It is true, most spins will lose or win only a small amount. But the bitcoin wagered amount is impossibly high, imo. 14 million Bitcoins is NOT possible.
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i also have to say when playing slots the amount wagered is massive. even if you lose just a little or win alittle the amount wargered is big


casino games amount wagered goes up x10 faster than dice


when they had weekly contest i would have 2500rdd a spin on slots on all day long. atthe end of the day i may have lost 100-200k rdd but i wagered like 30 million rdd


just saying they have a lot of casino games and casino rev is way diffrent than dice rev.
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Also, I am not sure whether this guy we are talking to is fully aware of everything to answer it. AFAIK, he could be the admin or a staff handing a completely different department.
I do agree with that. I agree that the "FortuneJack" account on this forum might not even know what these "wagered.php" URLs are and therefor not realize that my table was 100% correct. This would make their latest reply to "wrong because not properly informed by tech dep" instead of "wrong because lying", so I guess that would be better.

Yeah, that is quite likely. If this dev/admin of the site is accessible through support or something the info would be more helpful. Right now, speaking to the dev through OP would give a lot of scope for misunderstanding and wrong info.


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I also agree to just wait for their reply now first, lol.

I have no idea how they are going to handle it. IMO, they should fix it first. Whatever be the explanation they give, it won't be justifying the 14 million wagered as right stats, so they SHOULD fix it, and stop showing misleading info right on the home page.



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@ndnhc: just FYI I do still think they are legit for playing/withdrawals, "just" fake stats (and at this point: probably on purpose), which is important enough to bring up to discussion imo. I am not on some war and I haven't considered any neg trust. I simply do not like lies and I want site operators to be honest. That is all.

It is quite possible that whoever handing these parts decided to add some extra amounts to show off their site. Or it could be pure negligence or something wrong on how amounts are calculated. For example, for binary bet, a bet of 0.01 for 60 seconds may be counted as 0.6BTC.. who knows?
It is also very possible they knew the issue and did nothing since they didn't see scoring it down "would help their site to grow". Wink
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Overall I agree we should just wait for their reply and see how much they adjust their stats. But still I don't understand why you keep replying in a defensive way without even reading my posts (or at least not understanding them.)

Also, I am not sure whether this guy we are talking to is fully aware of everything to answer it. AFAIK, he could be the admin or a staff handing a completely different department.
I do agree with that. I agree that the "FortuneJack" account on this forum might not even know what these "wagered.php" URLs are and therefor not realize that my table was 100% correct. This would make their latest reply to "wrong because not properly informed by tech dep" instead of "wrong because lying", so I guess that would be better.


I also agree to just wait for their reply now first, lol.



@cryptobet: nice profits Tongue

@ndnhc: just FYI I do still think they are legit for playing/withdrawals, "just" fake stats (and at this point: probably on purpose), which is important enough to bring up to discussion imo. I am not on some war and I haven't considered any neg trust. I simply do not like lies and I want site operators to be honest. That is all.
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I can only speak for myself. but im  up 12btc at fj



its the only site ive won at TBH  Grin

Yeah, I don't see any other issues with FortuneJack except this inflated wagered amount. That is why I am defending them.  Cool

Well, if it is actually inflated by them on purpose then it is seriously unprofessional. Either way they should change the wagered amount to real stats.

This is no first time they have over billion usd weekly wager Nico know this too. It happen many time. Accident is once with stat but many is not.
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I can only speak for myself. but im  up 12btc at fj



its the only site ive won at TBH  Grin

Yeah, I don't see any other issues with FortuneJack except this inflated wagered amount. That is why I am defending them.  Cool

Well, if it is actually inflated by them on purpose then it is seriously unprofessional. Either way they should change the wagered amount to real stats.
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I can only speak for myself. but im  up 12btc at fj



its the only site ive won at TBH  Grin
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The bug they described cannot be the cause because I got original alt coins amounts.

Of course, I know that. I don't think that was the real issue that caused that high wagered amount either.


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Overall I agree we should just wait for their reply and see how much they adjust their stats.

Also, I am not sure whether this guy we are talking to is fully aware of everything to answer it. AFAIK, he could be the admin or a staff handing a completely different department.



First, get them to fix the wagered amount on the home page. then seek for the explanation, imo.
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Yes. They removed it today. That's why they are lying by saying "no way you could have access" because they know I was using that URL since it's removed today.

Probably they knew the data was inaccurate, because of say an error they had known which may be why they removed particular altcoin stats from the home page. So they didn't fix it coz they didn't know you or anyone was looking at that stats.

Either way, they should correct is asap.
Please read all my posts regarding to this issue and take some time to understand them before "defending" them.

The bug they described cannot be the cause because I got original alt coins amounts. If someone bets 12 CLAM, the site adds 12 CLAM to the CLAM stats. There is no involvement of any exchange rate.






I think it's clear they added 200M to DASH, probably 100M to LTC, and either 10M or even up to 10.5M to BTC. It seems like they added complete round numbers. I personally even think they added 1M to NVC, PPC, NMC at the beginning months of their website (I mean, just look at those numbers lmao), but I am willing to ignore this since that's relatively not much. Overall they should have around 100,000 BTC only in my estimation. Which is around 263 BTC wagered per day, which would be correct estimation compared to other sites too (~same amount as Rollin for example, just little lower than PRC/BD which obviously have more HR action.) This would give them between 1k and 4k BTC in profits. I think that is a fair estimation based on their bonus/affiliate/"max bet" stats too. <<< this paragraph is obviously speculation and my estimations though, my previous posts are proper arguments imo.


Overall I agree we should just wait for their reply and see how much they adjust their stats. But still I don't understand why you keep replying in a defensive way without even reading my posts (or at least not understanding them.)
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Well... tbh most bitcoin casinos inflate their stats to use for marketing purposes. What matters to me (and for many others, im sure) is that the casino is fair in its dealings with all its customers and follow up their promises, which FJ do quite well imo.

Yeah, it is for marketing purposes, but this kind of 14M is too ridiculous, 2 possibilities: 1. the data is erroneous and they didn't find, imo they should know that.  2. deliberately make this figure to attract people, this action is bad, cause their real wager is about 70k btc, it is 200X inflation.
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Yes. They removed it today. That's why they are lying by saying "no way you could have access" because they know I was using that URL since it's removed today.

Probably they knew the data was inaccurate, because of say an error they had known which may be why they removed particular altcoin stats from the home page. So they didn't fix it coz they didn't know you or anyone was looking at that stats.

Either way, they should correct is asap.
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Well... tbh most bitcoin casinos inflate their stats to use for marketing purposes. What matters to me (and for many others, im sure) is that the casino is fair in its dealings with all its customers and follow up their promises, which FJ do quite well imo.
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Yes. They removed it today. That's why they are lying by saying "no way you could have access" because they know I was using that URL since it's removed today.

This casino been doing fake stat many long time. Only site like prc and betterbets not faking stat rest bet own bankroll. Player not many enough for these amount. Anyone who not know this not know this industry. Also anyone who argue with NLNico need to get head examine.
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Yes. They removed it today. That's why they are lying by saying "no way you could have access" because they know I was using that URL since it's removed today.
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Which error are you talking about? Did you read my post?  Tongue Please explain me how an exchange rate error affects the original alt coin amounts. It should only affect the BTC amounts.


No, I didn't read any posts properly. Grin

Where did you get the alt coin wagered amount from?
That is in my previous post :p

Basically they used to show "per currency" stats in January on the website. I made a crawler for my site at that time and got the full data once. Then for months they didn't show those stats but that URL was still working. So yesterday I ran my script and got full data of "per currency" stats again. Rest/details are really in my previous post :p The numbers really add up compared to their total stats.

I get 404 not found. the URL isn't working anymore Huh
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Which error are you talking about? Did you read my post?  Tongue Please explain me how an exchange rate error affects the original alt coin amounts. It should only affect the BTC amounts.


No, I didn't read any posts properly. Grin

Where did you get the alt coin wagered amount from?
That is in my previous post :p

Basically they used to show "per currency" stats in January on the website. I made a crawler for my site at that time and got the full data once. Then for months they didn't show those stats but that URL was still working. So yesterday I ran my script and got full data of "per currency" stats again. Rest/details are really in my previous post :p The numbers really add up compared to their total stats.
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Which error are you talking about? Did you read my post?  Tongue Please explain me how an exchange rate error affects the original alt coin amounts. It should only affect the BTC amounts.


No, I didn't read any posts properly. Grin

Where did you get the alt coin wagered amount from?
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Which error are you talking about? Did you read my post?  Tongue Please explain me how an exchange rate error affects the original alt coin amounts. It should only affect the BTC amounts.
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Nah, I just think they were careless, lol.
They didn't bother to update the bonus terms about the changes in how the bonus is implemented. The Bonus terms given for the 100% deposit bonus are incorrect and also didn't bother to reset the wagered amount published on the home page of the site to the correct amount after the error was fixed.

I don't want a Nico v. potentially suspicious site war to go on all over again. so, I think we should give them time to fix these two things before adding a negative trust or consider it a scam.

Deadline : 1st October 2015.

1. Most importantly, correct the wagered amount shown on the home page to actual data. The current amount is inflated around 30 to 100+ times as per my estimate. If it is not possible to accurately estimate it, ignore the wagered amount for that particular period in which the error happened.
It is an important material data and decides how people see it. Ignoring it for so long is very unprofessional. Please fix it asap.

2. Update the bonus terms to reflect how things actually work at the moment.
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