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legendary
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FortuneJack is worried because it is possible to make profit at BlackJack  Huh  Shocked
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While analyzing your gameplay, you played 2300 hands, loosing 1200 small and winning 1100 big steaks
Everything seems okay
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You played an 18 hour process with the game of 1.7% House Edge and got 2200% profit, with -5% House Edge
You heard for luck?

Yes of course we have heard of luck, but we believe this is not the case, that is why we are investigating it. We have been in gaming business for 20 years, and have never seen similar gameplay before, details are a bit delicate for now. We have closed the subject with get_money until the investigation is finished, so we kindly ask you not to provoke it again.
legendary
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FortuneJack is worried because it is possible to make profit at BlackJack  Huh  Shocked
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While analyzing your gameplay, you played 2300 hands, loosing 1200 small and winning 1100 big steaks
Everything seems okay
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You played an 18 hour process with the game of 1.7% House Edge and got 2200% profit, with -5% House Edge
You heard for luck?
newbie
Activity: 56
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FortuneJack,

Those are sensible and reasonable replies and I thank you for posting them.

1. While analyzing your gameplay, you played 2300 hands, loosing 1200 small and winning 1100 big steaks

I don't understand what kind of manipulation I could have done to accomplish this as you have provably far game play correct?

2. You played a 18 hour process with the game of 1.7% House Edge and got 2200% profit, with -5% House Edge

Again, with provably fair play I don't understand what sort of fraud or cheating I could have done to affect this, this is your software and I have no knowledge of it and it correlates with your #1 point above

3. While looking at blockchain, the only transactions you had was buying 4 BTC and then forwarding them to FJ account  https://blockchain.info/address/1LkGcY9azj5YbSKUR9CLELJFwRrue7tKAT

You are correct as I opened that wallet strictly to keep my gambling funds in. I would not want to use my main wallet as I would be tempted to just transfer more in easily if I lost immediately. If I was cheating it would be highly unlikely I would play back most of that 22btc that I previously withdrew before I started winning again.

4. Your IP changes 4 times a day, connecting to the game flash with 10 different IP's and to the website only 4 IP's

I don't understand this. I use Private Internet Access which is a sponsor of bitcointalk. I did however change my ip to make a secondary account so I could play with your play money (FJC) and also be available if there was anything that could be relayed via chatbox to me as you had not just disabled my primary account but banned my ip from even accessing the main page.

5. The only reason you decided to withdraw amount that much is because we approved your 17 and then 22 BTC requests before.

The reason I decided to withdraw that amount is because I have a slight gambling problem and knew I needed to stop before I played it all back. This is evident seeing as how I played back almost all of the 22BTC I previously withdrew. I could also provide records from Betcoin.ag with my same username tied to my same email showing that I gamble and lose a lot. I do feel that a previous casino I was playing at was rigged or so it seemed and even praised your site because it seemed like it actually was fair play.

I even asked when the 45btc withdraw was pending if you could just cancel it so I could play some more. If that doesn't say gambling issue I don't know what does lol.


BUT.................I don't see how any of that constitutes fraud, hacking, cheating.   I got lucky, I played well, I use a vpn
legendary
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I enjoy my privacy so I use a vpn. I pretty much had to after you banned my ip address from your site after I started asking for explanations in your chatbox.

When we spoke earlier in the chatbox I told you that I wouldn't further press this issue and would wait for your investigation to finish since I have nothing to hide and committed no fraud.




 I look forward to any proof of fraud that you could produce. Since you now say you have PROOF that I somehow committed fraud I will straight now call you a liar. Especially since you say your investigation isn't finished.

Anything you can produce will be" he won too much" or "was too lucky" or "he used different ip addresses"
Anything above that I will scream lies and fabrication.

If I had a way to cheat your website, why would I make this big of a deal over my winnings and not just go do whatever cheat you think I did again?

We have the right to believe it was a FRAUD, and suspended your account due to following reasons:
1. While analyzing your gameplay, you played 2300 hands, loosing 1200 small and winning 1100 big steaks
2. You played an 18 hour process with the game of 1.7% House Edge and got 2200% profit, with -5% House Edge
3. While looking at blockchain, the only transactions you had was buying 4 BTC and then forwarding them to FJ account  https://blockchain.info/address/1LkGcY9azj5YbSKUR9CLELJFwRrue7tKAT
4. Your IP changes 4 times a day, connecting to the game flash with 10 different IP's and to the website only 4 IP's
5. The only reason you decided to withdraw amount that much is because we approved your 17 and then 22 BTC requests before.
6. You also claimed other casinos are scam and you would never look on their side, while as it seems, you have never played them.

In these cases, every casino would count it as a FRAUD, and start the investigation, that is exactly what we are doing now. We have the right to suspend your account, you agreed to the rules while registering.

What concerns to your question, we have lowered limits on Blackjack until the investigation finishes and you may find it uninteresting to play on cents, you could have noticed that while playing on FJC, as you posted above. Unfortunately, that is the only way we can keep you away for now, so it is in our interests to finish the investigation asap.

We claim to be honest, nice and 100% fair in the industry. We are ready to pay any amount won by the player, if it does not breach the security standards of the website. We would not like to continue the discussion about this subject for now, it will not get us any further.
newbie
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I enjoy my privacy so I use a vpn. I pretty much had to after you banned my ip address from your site after I started asking for explanations in your chatbox.

When we spoke earlier in the chatbox I told you that I wouldn't further press this issue and would wait for your investigation to finish since I have nothing to hide and committed no fraud.

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 I look forward to any proof of fraud that you could produce. Since you now say you have PROOF that I somehow committed fraud I will straight now call you a liar. Especially since you say your investigation isn't finished.

Anything you can produce will be" he won too much" or "was too lucky" or "he used different ip addresses"
Anything above that I will scream lies and fabrication.

If I had a way to cheat your website, why would I make this big of a deal over my winnings and not just go do whatever cheat you think I did again?
legendary
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I applaud you for your honesty but if you had successfully withdrawn it all would it not still be their fault/issue and them eat the penalty? Site security should be paramount for them. If a brick and mortar casino had incorrectly shuffled a shoe of cards that dealt the players blackjack every single hand would they call that unfair and take your money back because they had an internal issue?

I get what you're saying, bugs happen but if you suspect bugs then have small table limits instead of 3.6btc a session. If there's a bug that let me win a decent amount then prove there's not a bug that made me loose a decent amount etc.


I don't buy the bug explanation as they didn't pull BJ offline for any amount of time. And if there was a glitch or whatever I believe they should still honor the win.


We do not think there was a bug with the game, we do STRONGLY believe it was a FRAUD and you will have all the explanations once the investigation is finished. We have paid out for our bugs and mistakes before, and we can pay out the amount you won several times a day, as some of our games have coefficients high enough to pay out even more. For now, you are a potential criminal to us until the investigation is finished, so your arguments and discussions are totally meaningless. You are new to Blockchain, new to Bitcointalk, played from 4 different countries during the day (proxy, hiding IP) - while talking about gaming, we've got too many proofs of your FRAUDness that we would prefer not to desclose for now.
newbie
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I applaud you for your honesty but if you had successfully withdrawn it all would it not still be their fault/issue and them eat the penalty? Site security should be paramount for them. If a brick and mortar casino had incorrectly shuffled a shoe of cards that dealt the players blackjack every single hand would they call that unfair and take your money back because they had an internal issue?

I get what you're saying, bugs happen but if you suspect bugs then have small table limits instead of 3.6btc a session. If there's a bug that let me win a decent amount then prove there's not a bug that made me loose a decent amount etc.


I don't buy the bug explanation as they didn't pull BJ offline for any amount of time. And if there was a glitch or whatever I believe they should still honor the win.
hero member
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I agree but the thought of them saying they think coins were won through some type of fraud leads me to the thought

"Why couldn't they just claim 'bug' or 'fraud' and refuse to pay without offering any explanation?"

I mean I'm sure that the bug claim won't fly now as I see blackjack was not shut down or suspended in any way since then. But I can't just seem to shake the feeling that this isn't going to end fairly, maybe it was just the way I was responded to via email. It was relatively rude (or so I thought) and seemed to have the tone of "you frauded us and won't get your coins".

maybe I'm just being paranoid eh?







there are many bugs. i had 8400 btc in my account. lucky for them i only withdrew small amount to show major bug. i was rewarded
newbie
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I agree but the thought of them saying they think coins were won through some type of fraud leads me to the thought

"Why couldn't they just claim 'bug' or 'fraud' and refuse to pay without offering any explanation?"

I mean I'm sure that the bug claim won't fly now as I see blackjack was not shut down or suspended in any way since then. But I can't just seem to shake the feeling that this isn't going to end fairly, maybe it was just the way I was responded to via email. It was relatively rude (or so I thought) and seemed to have the tone of "you frauded us and won't get your coins".

maybe I'm just being paranoid eh?
hero member
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I hope FortuneJack will make everything clear and will show proofs of what they will eventually write here if they will deny totally/partially you withdrawal request.

Wearing their signature I'm particularly interested in their fairness toward players.

Maybe they didn't have these bitcoin and they couldn't pay you for the moment, I don't know. I want to see what will happen here (and I hope they will send you the bitcoin).


BE ADVISED. FortuneJack deleted my post here in reference to this quote about them withholding 54.9 BTC because they claim it was somehow won from fraud but will not elaborate any further. The link to my thread about this can be found here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-psa-issue-with-fortunejack-holding-13k-worth-of-my-btc-954601

Instead of replying "we are verifying your large win and you will be paid in a day or so"   they delete my post and screenshots.

I will continue to post this until the issue is resolved and will push the story to coindesk, cyrptocoinnews, and their hosting company.
I will gladly pull down all relevant posts if they follow through and pay what I am due.


I'm sure they are going thur your bets and making sure . the reason nothiing has been said yet is cuz they are not done checking for fraud.


they will come here with statment when done. if everything is on the up n up they you will get what you say you won.


why would they risk a million dollar company on a $14,000 withdraw? your a small fish in a big pond
newbie
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I hope FortuneJack will make everything clear and will show proofs of what they will eventually write here if they will deny totally/partially you withdrawal request.

Wearing their signature I'm particularly interested in their fairness toward players.

Maybe they didn't have these bitcoin and they couldn't pay you for the moment, I don't know. I want to see what will happen here (and I hope they will send you the bitcoin).


BE ADVISED. FortuneJack deleted my post here in reference to this quote about them withholding 54.9 BTC because they claim it was somehow won from fraud but will not elaborate any further. The link to my thread about this can be found here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-psa-issue-with-fortunejack-holding-13k-worth-of-my-btc-954601

Instead of replying "we are verifying your large win and you will be paid in a day or so"   they delete my post and screenshots.

I will continue to post this until the issue is resolved and will push the story to coindesk, cyrptocoinnews, and their hosting company.
I will gladly pull down all relevant posts if they follow through and pay what I am due.
newbie
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thankyou for attention admin. problem solved
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legendary
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I hope FortuneJack will make everything clear and will show proofs of what they will eventually write here if they will deny totally/partially you withdrawal request.

Wearing their signature I'm particularly interested in their fairness toward players.

Maybe they didn't have these bitcoin and they couldn't pay you for the moment, I don't know. I want to see what will happen here (and I hope they will send you the bitcoin).
legendary
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I hope FortuneJack will make everything clear and will show proofs of what they will eventually write here if they will deny totally/partially you withdrawal request.

Wearing their signature I'm particularly interested in their fairness toward players.
legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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How much times it takes to complete deposit Huh

My Dogecoin deposit is pending with over 30 confirmations. Is this normal Huh

My login ID : black_lord

Deposit ID : 10613166
Amount : 7000 Doges

Translations : https://dogechain.info/tx/c143f1caab1d2e16b306e6adb842e4989849d470b5164e52ce7413d30edda412

Just completed !!! After 32 confirmations ................. It took huge time ...........

Other casino sites only take 1~2 confirmations to complete deposit

There was a minor lag with the DOGE coin server, that was already fixed. Normally we require only 1 confirmation from the network. Sorry for the delay!
sr. member
Activity: 303
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How much times it takes to complete deposit Huh

My Dogecoin deposit is pending with over 30 confirmations. Is this normal Huh

My login ID : black_lord

Deposit ID : 10613166
Amount : 7000 Doges

Translations : https://dogechain.info/tx/c143f1caab1d2e16b306e6adb842e4989849d470b5164e52ce7413d30edda412

Just completed !!! After 32 confirmations ................. It took huge time ...........

Other casino sites only take 1~2 confirmations to complete deposit
sr. member
Activity: 303
Merit: 250
How much times it takes to complete deposit Huh

My Dogecoin deposit is pending with over 30 confirmations. Is this normal Huh

My login ID : black_lord

Deposit ID : 10613166
Amount : 7000 Doges

Translations : https://dogechain.info/tx/c143f1caab1d2e16b306e6adb842e4989849d470b5164e52ce7413d30edda412
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