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Storx

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Quote from: DaniRC on June 18, 2017, 05:47:07 AM

Quote from: Storx on June 18, 2017, 03:41:58 AM

Quote from: citronick on June 18, 2017, 03:17:03 AM

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

I just did what you said and blake is still coming out as the more profitable coin right now for my 1080ti's.... ive been getting between 10-17/day per card for almost a week now.. im not sure how long it will stay like this.. but its been super profitable since skein took a nose dive last week....

Hashrate?

Im mining blake on zpool... the 24hrs profit number currently is 0.38722 (which is low today)
0.38722 x 91.494Gh/s=35.42830668mBTC/day or 0.03542831 btc/day, today is not a good day for me to mine blake, because it was around 0.8ish the last week nearly... if i mined blake today i would only make $6.86 per card for the day if the profit rate stayed stable....which it never does.. right now im mining skein....

skein currently for me is 0.00393, so 0.00393 x 22503 hashrate gives 88.43679mBTC/day or 0.08843679btc *estimate today or $222.88, basically $17 per card for me today... but since i know skein moves a lot during the day... i expect around 13-14 per card

AND dont forget the pool fee, so whatever it comes out above you times it by 0.98 to get your closer estimate earnings to subtract the 2% fee

philipma1957

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 15, 2017, 05:45:54 PM

You do not want to auto switch . This is not the time for me to explain why as I need a lot of time to show the down sides of it.

I'd be mightily interested in your opinion on this subject philipma. If you ever get the time to do this explanation, even if it was just a few general statements, I think we'd all benefit.

I have my own suspicions, plus what I have read others say on this subject... but basically would you say that you are always chasing the tail end of an upswing if you use profit-switching?

yes but carry it forward and pretend it is one of only 2 softwares in the world.

manual 1 until you switch and the switcher.

so I can run an odd coin say zer for 1 week manual get 1000 coins for low cost say .00000111 btc each

or .00111 btc

then list on an exchange at 0.0000555 each and forget it .

switching pretty much does not work as you want a low difficulty coin more then the most profitable coin.

also every switch you make you lose money on the ramp up. and depending on what you were mining some pools kill you for switching off.

puwaha

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 15, 2017, 05:45:54 PM

You do not want to auto switch . This is not the time for me to explain why as I need a lot of time to show the down sides of it.

I'd be mightily interested in your opinion on this subject philipma. If you ever get the time to do this explanation, even if it was just a few general statements, I think we'd all benefit.

I have my own suspicions, plus what I have read others say on this subject... but basically would you say that you are always chasing the tail end of an upswing if you use profit-switching?

Maticul

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Quote from: citronick on June 18, 2017, 10:55:04 AM

Meanwhile my contacts sent me this allegedly coming out to the market in 2 weeks...

Looks like this card has no video output !

I assume that this is the 1060 Mining Edition, NVIDIA has been talking about.

I think the resale value could be low.

citronick

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Meanwhile my contacts sent me this allegedly coming out to the market in 2 weeks...

Looks like this card has no video output !

I assume that this is the 1060 Mining Edition, NVIDIA has been talking about.

citronick

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Quote from: vapourminer on June 18, 2017, 10:00:08 AM

Quote from: Storx on June 17, 2017, 11:27:33 PM

When i installed Windows on the GO, it said it was installing Windows Enterprise edition and that 32GB was the minimal size USB drive needed, but the actual install size on the USB drive is only 22.1GB. I am going to leave this in my mining rig running for the next few days to make sure its stable running it this way.. i did notice a small drop in wattage running the usb drive over the mechanical hd also...

forget about 32 gig drives for windows.

my wife grabbed a win10 netbook a while back with a 32 gig ssd. ran ok for a while till the last win10 update. came up with an "out of space" error and would not update. wound up compressing the whole drive to get room.

and it has a sd card for most programs/data so the only thing on the ssd is windows and thunderbird. and i run ccleaner religiously. 32 gigs is just too small.

get a 64 gig drive for windows.

I think disabling updates, delete all non-essential software and run Claymore and your miners off Google Drive or MS OneDrive.

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: Storx on June 17, 2017, 11:27:33 PM

When i installed Windows on the GO, it said it was installing Windows Enterprise edition and that 32GB was the minimal size USB drive needed, but the actual install size on the USB drive is only 22.1GB. I am going to leave this in my mining rig running for the next few days to make sure its stable running it this way.. i did notice a small drop in wattage running the usb drive over the mechanical hd also...

forget about 32 gig drives for windows.

my wife grabbed a win10 netbook a while back with a 32 gig ssd. ran ok for a while till the last win10 update. came up with an "out of space" error and would not update. wound up compressing the whole drive to get room.

and it has a sd card for most programs/data so the only thing on the ssd is windows and thunderbird. and i run ccleaner religiously. 32 gigs is just too small.

get a 64 gig drive for windows.

ticmmae

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Quote from: citronick on June 18, 2017, 03:17:03 AM

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

Regarding Nicehash, what is the best way to get the payout? I am looking through their fees and it is so confusing and they dont seem to let you choose payout threshold. I feel like mining to their wallet and withdrawing later is the best way? (2% payout fee + 0.3% withdrawl fee for nicehash wallet compared to 3% or 4% payout fee to external wallet)

bdiddle

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Storx where are you mining Sia?

I noticed most sia pools only work with claymore......

martyroz

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Quote from: DaniRC on June 18, 2017, 05:47:07 AM

Hashrate?

If you reverse engineer he needs 7120Mh/s and 7c ele costs @ 250W

DaniRC

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Quote from: Storx on June 18, 2017, 03:41:58 AM

Quote from: citronick on June 18, 2017, 03:17:03 AM

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

I just did what you said and blake is still coming out as the more profitable coin right now for my 1080ti's.... ive been getting between 10-17/day per card for almost a week now.. im not sure how long it will stay like this.. but its been super profitable since skein took a nose dive last week....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4263/34533846354_1be18fcede_o_d.png

Hashrate?

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Quote from: bdiddle on June 18, 2017, 01:22:17 AM

People still using zpool? I am getting inconsistent numbers the past week.

The Graph on the actual site looks a bit out. But when I calcuate the actual BTC mined it stacks up. I had issues a few times last week but seems ok now.

citronick

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Quote from: VyprBTC on June 18, 2017, 04:05:53 AM

what are you punching in because i just went to whattomine and punched in stats for 1x1080 and numbers waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different that yours.

currently set up to mine to bitcoin only what i'm spending on overhead costs.

the rest of hashing power will be split between direct direct mining of zec/skein/eth no conversion to back to BTC yet.

1 x 1080ti would be technically 2 x 1080 non ti

EvilMonkey

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Yer I cant see how to make it do blake. What hash power are you getting when it is doing blake ? Single card 10-17$?

citronick

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in my NH Windows v2, my 1080s are mining Lyra2REv2 but I checked this miner doesnt have blake256r8 algo.

I checked my past version of the NH miner, I think they added blake algo in v1.3 but that was for sgminer/AMD

What ccminer do you use to mine blake?

Quote from: Storx on June 18, 2017, 03:41:58 AM

Quote from: citronick on June 18, 2017, 03:17:03 AM

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

I just did what you said and blake is still coming out as the more profitable coin right now for my 1080ti's.... ive been getting between 10-17/day per card for almost a week now.. im not sure how long it will stay like this.. but its been super profitable since skein took a nose dive last week....

VyprBTC

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what are you punching in because i just went to whattomine and punched in stats for 1x1080 and numbers waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different that yours.

currently set up to mine to bitcoin only what i'm spending on overhead costs.

the rest of hashing power will be split between direct direct mining of zec/skein/eth no conversion to back to BTC yet.

Storx

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Quote from: citronick on June 18, 2017, 03:17:03 AM

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

I just did what you said and blake is still coming out as the more profitable coin right now for my 1080ti's.... ive been getting between 10-17/day per card for almost a week now.. im not sure how long it will stay like this.. but its been super profitable since skein took a nose dive last week....

VyprBTC

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just point your miner to the algo and port your pool uses for blake or whatever algo it is you want to mine. your pool will have a list of all algos and ports to use.

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Quote from: Storx on June 18, 2017, 03:04:19 AM

Quote from: citronick on June 18, 2017, 02:11:31 AM

Quote from: Storx on June 18, 2017, 01:18:43 AM

Quote from: citronick on June 18, 2017, 12:52:00 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 18, 2017, 12:13:43 AM

Quote from: Storx on June 17, 2017, 11:52:20 PM

Do any of yall run 8 card rigs? I have been shopping components and after setting up the 4 card gpu and 1 card gpu rig at my parents house in the garage using the old dell workstations and the 5 x1080ti's, im thinking about doing possibly up to 8 card gtx1080ti build, my step father is going to wire up 3 x 120v outlets for me to use in his garage tell i get to the level that im comfortable enough to move into a warehouse.. to save on purchasing multiple motherboards, im thinking of just getting a motherboard with capability of up to 8 cards, then add them as i purchase them to the motherboard,because the main algo's i mine i have them dialed in so far and they pretty much use around 120-130watts per card... so my GPU consumption would be around 1000 watts which seems to be perfectly stable on his power in the garage per outlet..

What do you guys think?

Instead of buying 2 x 4 GPU list of parts, it seems like it would just be cheaper in the end......

I know the build doesnt have any of the T series CPU's, but most of the T series CPU's said they only support up to 5 GPU's from my readings.. unless the info was wrong

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7xnN4C

I am against 6 7 8 card rigs but to each his own

using 1000 psu on an eight card rig is not going to be good for 8 1080ti's as the watt settings shift from time to time.

but I understand the temptation to run 8 card rigs. so good luck with them

I agree with Phil -- too many bad memories from the past running heavy rigs and related nightmares.

But from mining farm perspective, all the rigs on the farm is standardized 6-GPU/rx480/470-H81/TB85-4gb-1840 CPU-smOS-1200/1300w PSU -- its done like that for ease of operations and management.

I do however concede, it may be different ballgame altogether... that within the realms of NVIDIA, the power consumption on 1070 and 1060.... are really nuts very low. And for this reason, to improve mining density, my group will include 8-9 x GPUs rigs of 1070, 1060 NVIDIA to the ETH farm. smOS charges 2 bucks per month per rig, so increasing GPUs without increasing power, will be no brainer.

The 1080tis will focus on ZEC only -- its too expensive this 1080ti to run ETH eventhough its equally a beast in ETH 36-38MHs but Zotac 1070 Mini at full speed is at 32MHs!

What are some of those bad memories you had with the 6+ rigs.... just trying to learn here lol....

Im curious why your so concentrated on ETH for the 1060/1070's and ZEC on the 1080ti's... just curious why that over other algo's.... for example my rigs have been mining blake2s literally 95% of the time the last few days and its been very profitable.. when i do the numbers on profit calculator im only seeing like 8-9/day per card on zec

Anything above 6 x gpus previously (2015-2016) needed bigger psu and more risers and new motherboard (other than H81)

Thats leads to more more heat, riser issues, more expense, power trips and likely rigs needs more babysitting because reboots and downtime eventually less hash submitted to stratum server... so less revenue.

Today (circa 2017), we have better mobos supporting 6-7-8-9 x GPUs, better risers, server psu/pico/BB -- however the fact remains, AMD 400/500 series out of stock and you miss out of the mining game. So this is when NVIDIA comes in with surprising results...

I have 18 x 1070 Zotac Mini running ZEC previously, but now on ETH, at 6 x GPU @ 30.xxMHs each @ 184MHs @ 660watts @75PL/165core/650mem, which is far better than running AMD cards (compare RX470 x 6, 27MHs per card, power draw 950watts). The 1060 Mining Edition rumors 70w per card at 22-23MHs per card on ETH, and decent numbers on ZEC and XMR too.

I have tested 1080s FEs, Auros and also AMP Extreme -- all of them runs ZEC very well especially the Auros and AMP-extreme -- I use a 2-3 x GPU per rig and run ZEC and they do in the range of 600-750sols each depending on the OC settings.

hmm very interesting on the 1070's, i tried to do ETH at one point and the highest i could squeeze out was 35Mh/s which translated to like 6.80/day i think..... i currently run a multi-algo setup and equihash is mined on occasion, but i find it far less profitable on most days.. just wanted to ask you why you were mining it.. because there may be something im not noticing or something.. just trying to learn things you know as i build my rigs up... im currently running 4 mining rigs right now with a total of 13 GPU's, they are all 1080ti's....
My main PC only has 2 on water cool, my 2nd (old gaming pc) only has 2 on air, because i cant seem to get a single riser to work in that motherboard, the last 3 are all dell refurbished workstations i bought off ebay.. which 2 have 4 cards on risers and the last has only 1 gpu, because im all out of GPU's right now.. have 2 more coming in the mail by thursday

How are you mining blake2? Just using nicehash.exe? If you try to mine zec this way you will get probably 30% less using nicehash.exe. If you use EWBF 3.xxx it will give you around 700 sol per 1080ti compared to 400 or something on nicehash.exe I forget how much less it gives you but it is alot less.

citronick

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@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

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