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hero member
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This "condolence bonus" is just one big joke. I lost 28K in Betnomi and I had to fill in a document with all kinds of screenshots to prove my losses in there, and that took me about an hour. And all I got is a bonus of just 200 USD.

They make it look like a generous bailout action but it's just some bullshit action to get some more customers.
Well, its a normal reaction though knowing that you would be getting just $200 bonus + having that wagering requirement is something that those huge wagerers really be that disappointed because they are expecting something more. Its not really that shocking though, it is really just that some sort of bonus that they do mention about having that condolence thing but i do agree into the part that it is really just a gesture
for them to hook up those previous Betnomi players and would be seeing that this casino could really be a good patch up or something a place on which they could transfer on. Yes, its not really that shocking nor really that
something new or cant be possibly be done. On time likes this which you could really be expecting someone who would really be taking out advantage on others disaster just trying out to expand out their market
and would be indirectly giving out some bonuses and make it really that look that they do really care for those gamblers but in deep they are really just trying out to hook those players.
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This "condolence bonus" is just one big joke. I lost 28K in Betnomi and I had to fill in a document with all kinds of screenshots to prove my losses in there, and that took me about an hour. And all I got is a bonus of just 200 USD.

They make it look like a generous bailout action but it's just some bullshit action to get some more customers.

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Therefore, we have decided to offer a free bonus to all victims of Betnomi who still have funds stuck there. No deposit required.

Sorry for your loss on betnomi. That amount is really such a big one and I wonder how many more huge amount that they exited with.

Well, regards to your complain on the bonus, it is not funny but I think they called it bonus and I don't think they specified any amount to be paid to survivals from betnomi. I'm thinking is just a registration bonus by the way.
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This "condolence bonus" is just one big joke. I lost 28K in Betnomi and I had to fill in a document with all kinds of screenshots to prove my losses in there, and that took me about an hour. And all I got is a bonus of just 200 USD.

They make it look like a generous bailout action but it's just some bullshit action to get some more customers.
sr. member
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Indeed this will be some kind of relief to the victims considering the fact that no deposit will be required in other for them to meet up the bonus requirements, and I also hope there will no much of wagering requirements that might appears to be nearly impossible to win the game using the bonus.

And I hope there have been turn up from the betnomi victims since the creation of this thread.
Hope this bring a positive news to the victims and if luck be on there side they can win some of the lost funds.

Betnomi's exit scam might turn around to be biggest than 1xbit. I am not seeing a lot of topics being created by Betnomi users on the Scam board. Still, I feel this is one of the best opportunities for anyone who has suffered due to this scam. After going through multiple pages of this thread and being a natural member of this forum I feel most have quoted it as a marketing strategy. I have not seen another casino coming up and offering something like TrustDice. It would be very interesting to learn as in how many users from this forum utilized this offer.
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Seeing what's happening, we feel there is something we should do to protect people's trust in the crypto iGaming industry, not only as a relatively successful crypto casino & sportsbook, but also as a beneficiary of this industry. Therefore, we have decided to offer a free bonus to all victims of Betnomi who still have funds stuck there. No deposit required.

Indeed this will be some kind of relief to the victims considering the fact that no deposit will be required in other for them to meet up the bonus requirements, and I also hope there will no much of wagering requirements that might appears to be nearly impossible to win the game using the bonus.

And I hope there have been turn up from the betnomi victims since the creation of this thread.
Hope this bring a positive news to the victims and if luck be on there side they can win some of the lost funds.
hero member
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So far 12 days since you created this thread or invitation I wonder what the update did Trustdice encounter any issues with taking Betnomi players is their qualifications and criteria good that they can weed out false users, if they become successful on the screening they can do it again, this is good marketing and although it looks negative to other people Betnomi users have the option to go for it or decline the invitation and it will not hurt them.
Hopefully, the representative will update if things go well or if they encounter issues.
sr. member
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@TrustDice

There were loads of gamblers using Betnomi casino and this is a wonderful opportunity to grab the huge numbers of gamblers into your own platform all in the name of feeling pity for them, this is interesting

There is no amount of explanations you guys can give, I believe this is what you guys are trying to do, another market strategy is all, but mind you, it's something that can make you guys lose face and rep if you are not careful.

There is no way you guys can be the bearer of the losses without earning from it, but I won't say much, just know what you are doing or.......
legendary
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Now it will be harder to trust new online casinos, on this forum or out of this forum.
As long as you don't put big money in the casino it's all safe, so far I've played in casinos that have a good reputation on this forum, that's why I've never been tempted by any free promotions that make me play there, as far as I know and see betnomi not sponsoring sports and any business out there, so it's a matter of believing or not, of course people still believe because there are still trusted sites in this forum.

Especially for newbies it is important to ask which casino platform is the best and has a good reputation it helps to prevent ourselves from being scammed, the most important thing is don't put big money in those casinos even though they look good they give lots of bonuses and are active doesn't mean they can't cheats, but as far as I know the betting platforms that sponsor their particular sports really don't come off as scammers and are still around today. luckily i never put big money and play big money at betnomi
legendary
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Hi, Lucky

In reality this recent problem affects everyone, I am affected not only by the fact that I have an account there, that is, the point is that those who do not have an account  always like to see how we say by here "the Bulls from the bleachers" but they do not understand that in a certain way it also affects them.

Yes it is true, there are people who have money withheld, and they are the ones who feel the problem the most, but as you mention this affects the entire crypto community, not just the one that lives here in the forum.

In any case, what is relevant about this community is having a Casino like the one in this thread that opens a gap to give light to those who have relevant balances, although it is a hand in the idea of attracting some users, it is a natural movement and not it does it  "dark," so, they launching an open promotion, so it's fine.

But!, we can't be so naive with this kind of help either, I repeat as part of the community, seems to me to be genuine, but! Are you looking to attract new users and/or activate old accounts, in a moment of crisis. Hence, we can give a flip to this "idea or intention of help" or maybe it maint is some like; the well-known win-win, perhaps in a percentage of 51% -  49%.
 
In any case, it is worth telling this casino that it can extend this help in monthly promotions or in events there at G&R, for everyone BTT users.


fM   (̿▀̿ ̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿) ̄

Hola famososMuertos bro!!!

It's a shame that things could have happened like this, it's a pity , I don't really know what happened, at one point I saw that this casino was going to be one of the most pioneering with poker, at that time I wanted to enter, but due to some circumstances where I am, there are many power cuts, and that was something that I should not have because of any game I was going to have a few hours of inactivity, that would have made me lose, especially in a tournament where the most are experts in the game.

However, I had hope in the site, because the pvp tournaments that were organized were not just anything, it was something tremendous, with time I Believed that this was going to become one of the best tournaments developed in the forum, and that they could have u great scope, but due to the things that happened, and something very disappointing, I know that many like you, put their hearts into the site to get ahead, in fact when the site came out I recommended them in their thread to do something different, that a poker tournament was a very good option, and I was surprised because one of the darkest of the project were those and they did it.

Now , what Hurts from all this is having accounts there with money and that people could not withdraw, I hope that is not your case, I have Learned that when there are profits you must take at least 50% to enjoy them, and the other 50% can be left to continue in the investment / fun and thus multiply it if possible, otherwise the percentage that is left varies, even though I win something every time I get at least 80%, the people who leave The money in a casino , in an Exchange , that is a double-edged sword, it is not our money if it is not under our power, I think that, the best and safest thing is that our money is safely in our wallets, However, what you say about that they respond by giving some money or something to attract Customers, yes , Indeed , it's just that it's quite Innovative and they like that they do things like that , it's a very Intelligent way to Attract.
legendary
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...//::,,
Hi, Lucky

In reality this recent problem affects everyone, I am affected not only by the fact that I have an account there, that is, the point is that those who do not have an account  always like to see how we say by here "the Bulls from the bleachers" but they do not understand that in a certain way it also affects them.

Yes it is true, there are people who have money withheld, and they are the ones who feel the problem the most, but as you mention this affects the entire crypto community, not just the one that lives here in the forum.

In any case, what is relevant about this community is having a Casino like the one in this thread that opens a gap to give light to those who have relevant balances, although it is a hand in the idea of attracting some users, it is a natural movement and not it does it  "dark," so, they launching an open promotion, so it's fine.

But!, we can't be so naive with this kind of help either, I repeat as part of the community, seems to me to be genuine, but! Are you looking to attract new users and/or activate old accounts, in a moment of crisis. Hence, we can give a flip to this "idea or intention of help" or maybe it maint is some like; the well-known win-win, perhaps in a percentage of 51% -  49%.
 
In any case, it is worth telling this casino that it can extend this help in monthly promotions or in events there at G&R, for everyone BTT users.


fM   (̿▀̿ ̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿) ̄
legendary
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I personally don't like the sound of Condolence Bonus. Never mind the free. That's what a bonus should be in the first place. But, well, this is probably what it is.

Of course, this is a good gesture from the TrustDice team, but this shouldn't be construed as if the team truly commiserates with the victims, or that TrustDice is showing a sense of altruism. This is plainly an attempt to attract the beleaguered gamblers of Betnomi. It's not as if TrustDice is sacrificing or would bear losses because of this offer. They will earn.

Still, props to the team of TrustDice for this and for closely monitoring the developments in the crypto gambling community.
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I think they already know this and they think properly before they proceed so don't worry about them. Betnomi started out great and I'm sure many have gotten scammed by them so the inquiries that Trustdice will get is surely going to be huge.

There are also scammers who will try to abuse this promotion but Trustdice already said that they are strict about this so I doubt they will be successful. Maybe less-demand casinos will get encouraged from this idea and they will also try the same thing. Ex-Betnomi customers are going to be happy for that because they might end up getting more? But if they are an irresponsible gambler, they will still lose more later on.     

Since there's no abuse has been reported yet, I guess they are doing fine on their verification done with those ex betnomi users and I guess some of them are glad about what trust dice did. But for sure some are still traumatize regarding on what they are newly experience. But still this is good move made by them since for doing condolence bonus to betnomi users they will lead them to play on their casino and might they can acquire there whales and their loyal players.

That's good to know but we'll see in the coming days, it seems they are good at verifying ex betnomi members  but we'd like to read the representative updates if there are scammers who tried to abuse this bonus, if successful we will see more casinos or Trustdice doing it again when another casino turned scam but hopefully, there will be no more established casino turning scam, we don't want members losing money.,
It's hard when you trust a casino and you are already comfortably playing with it only to turn to scam later.

I don't know that what measures they will be using to determine the ex Betnomi members because anyone who has ever commented of Betnomi ANN thread may claim to be the affected victims of the scam. I'm more than sure that there are so many scammers who would try to take advantage of Turstdice by showing fake images of their belongings on Betnomi, and if they somehow get success in doing that then that would not be a good thing for the real victims who have been affected by the Betnomi scam. Yes, it breaks ones heart when they are playing with a casino which later turns out to be rug pull type of scam but we can't do anything to stop the casinos from being scams.

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I think they already know this and they think properly before they proceed so don't worry about them. Betnomi started out great and I'm sure many have gotten scammed by them so the inquiries that Trustdice will get is surely going to be huge.

There are also scammers who will try to abuse this promotion but Trustdice already said that they are strict about this so I doubt they will be successful. Maybe less-demand casinos will get encouraged from this idea and they will also try the same thing. Ex-Betnomi customers are going to be happy for that because they might end up getting more? But if they are an irresponsible gambler, they will still lose more later on.     

Since there's no abuse has been reported yet, I guess they are doing fine on their verification done with those ex betnomi users and I guess some of them are glad about what trust dice did. But for sure some are still traumatize regarding on what they are newly experience. But still this is good move made by them since for doing condolence bonus to betnomi users they will lead them to play on their casino and might they can acquire there whales and their loyal players.

That's good to know but we'll see in the coming days, it seems they are good at verifying ex betnomi members  but we'd like to read the representative updates if there are scammers who tried to abuse this bonus, if successful we will see more casinos or Trustdice doing it again when another casino turned scam but hopefully, there will be no more established casino turning scam, we don't want members losing money.,
It's hard when you trust a casino and you are already comfortably playing with it only to turn to scam later.
legendary
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Impressive. While I do think that this is going to be a lot of work on your end since you'll be asking some proof and as well as you'll be requiring these claimants with a certain wager. I guess you've made this plan well and prepared that you're expecting a lot of inquiries claiming that they've got funds stuck there and can no longer take it. Well, I'm not going to be curious about the process you'll do as it shouldn't really be disclosed and it has got nothing to do with me since I'm not a victim as well. I think that this gesture will also give the idea to the other casinos that they'd also do this type of promotion to get more of those gamblers go each of you and have that benefit. While those victims, real ones, will think of the same thing as well. Good luck though, there will be a sure bombardment on your chat support asap.
I think they already know this and they think properly before they proceed so don't worry about them. Betnomi started out great and I'm sure many have gotten scammed by them so the inquiries that Trustdice will get is surely going to be huge.

There are also scammers who will try to abuse this promotion but Trustdice already said that they are strict about this so I doubt they will be successful. Maybe less-demand casinos will get encouraged from this idea and they will also try the same thing. Ex-Betnomi customers are going to be happy for that because they might end up getting more? But if they are an irresponsible gambler, they will still lose more later on.     

Since there's no abuse has been reported yet, I guess they are doing fine on their verification done with those ex betnomi users and I guess some if them are glad about what trust dice did. But for sure some are still traumatize regarding on what they are newly experience. But still this is good move made by them since for doing condolence bonus to betnomi users they will lead them to play on their casino and might they can acquire there whales and their loyal players.
legendary
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Impressive. While I do think that this is going to be a lot of work on your end since you'll be asking some proof and as well as you'll be requiring these claimants with a certain wager. I guess you've made this plan well and prepared that you're expecting a lot of inquiries claiming that they've got funds stuck there and can no longer take it. Well, I'm not going to be curious about the process you'll do as it shouldn't really be disclosed and it has got nothing to do with me since I'm not a victim as well. I think that this gesture will also give the idea to the other casinos that they'd also do this type of promotion to get more of those gamblers go each of you and have that benefit. While those victims, real ones, will think of the same thing as well. Good luck though, there will be a sure bombardment on your chat support asap.
I think they already know this and they think properly before they proceed so don't worry about them. Betnomi started out great and I'm sure many have gotten scammed by them so the inquiries that Trustdice will get is surely going to be huge.

There are also scammers who will try to abuse this promotion but Trustdice already said that they are strict about this so I doubt they will be successful. Maybe less-demand casinos will get encouraged from this idea and they will also try the same thing. Ex-Betnomi customers are going to be happy for that because they might end up getting more? But if they are an irresponsible gambler, they will still lose more later on.     

For me, always a site that is good and then becomes a scam means and I always want to think that the site could not sustain itself, it may have lost its capital, it tried and failed in the attempt, it is something painful because it is a company that is leaving It's not just anything, I had seen a lot of activity on betnomi, in fact important contests and tournaments, in fact a whole rage had formed in the forum, for me there were many Betnomi enthusiasts and I think they did a lot of things, well as long as a casino tries to do something good, or wants to be reborn from the ashes like a phoenix, because things do not go well for them, I also saw an opportunity a few years ago, a casino that had been classified almost as a scam, they wanted to clear their name, and they did many good things, they gave them an opportunity, even here in the forum things went well for them, but I think that at the end of this what they need is money, it is capital to continue.

When a casino tries everything, by all means and they want to clear their name of any act, it is something very respectable for me, it is not a bad thing because it is seen that they want to change, I think that things when they do not give is because they decapitalize and cannot and do not have the capacity to do so, at that moment is when they must say that they are not going anymore, that they tried but it could not, sometimes they want to continue despite the deficiencies, but things do not happen, because They begin to think that they can capitalize with the users' money, and that is the big mistake, a mistake made by some of the new casinos, or in this case it could have happened to them.


I like the gesture that Trustdice is making, because no one in their right mind assumes paying or giving a bonus to those who could not withdraw their funds from that casino, it is a gesture that I really admire and that is something that must be taken into consideration, I really wish there were more representations like Trustdice in the forum to help people, I think good gestures will always be well rewarded.
legendary
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Impressive. While I do think that this is going to be a lot of work on your end since you'll be asking some proof and as well as you'll be requiring these claimants with a certain wager. I guess you've made this plan well and prepared that you're expecting a lot of inquiries claiming that they've got funds stuck there and can no longer take it. Well, I'm not going to be curious about the process you'll do as it shouldn't really be disclosed and it has got nothing to do with me since I'm not a victim as well. I think that this gesture will also give the idea to the other casinos that they'd also do this type of promotion to get more of those gamblers go each of you and have that benefit. While those victims, real ones, will think of the same thing as well. Good luck though, there will be a sure bombardment on your chat support asap.
I think they already know this and they think properly before they proceed so don't worry about them. Betnomi started out great and I'm sure many have gotten scammed by them so the inquiries that Trustdice will get is surely going to be huge.

There are also scammers who will try to abuse this promotion but Trustdice already said that they are strict about this so I doubt they will be successful. Maybe less-demand casinos will get encouraged from this idea and they will also try the same thing. Ex-Betnomi customers are going to be happy for that because they might end up getting more? But if they are an irresponsible gambler, they will still lose more later on.     
sr. member
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I believe the validation won't be easy, there have to be some requirement to actually believe that someone is a victim, this is why I sometimes screenshot my balance when I am gambling on any online casino and after I won some money, you won't know what's waiting for you in the next hours, always be prepared for anything.

This is shocking to me, because betnomi is one of those casinos I can recommend to anyone because it's popular on this forum, who would have thought that they will one day exit scam on their customers, I've never use the platform before because I got few numbers of online casinos that I prefer over betnomi.

Now it will be harder to trust new online casinos, on this forum or out of this forum.
copper member
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Betnomi exit scam? Damn. I've been out of the loop and I am surprised to hear this news since I actually enjoyed my time there. These trash websites make it a lot harder for gamblers to trust newly launched legit gambling sites sadly.

Anyway, this whole initiative by Trustdice is admirable for sure despite them clearly having ulterior motives. Great stuff team!

We were also surprised to see this happening, to be fairly honest. Our product team used to speak highly of some aspects of their product and we know they imitated some features of our product as well, which suggests they have a dedicated product team at least.

So my best guess is the same as some of the comments here that they chose to close the business due to lack of fund or negative return on investment. This being said, I can by no means endorse their way of closing the business. Balances of existing players should have been refunded because it is the right thing to do. What they are doing, along with the complete absence of transparency in the process, erodes people's trust in the entire industry.
legendary
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I have a question about the ledgers.
As far as I know, companies that get these engraved wallets don't do it themselves. Ledger does the engraving and sends the wallets to the company and you're supposed to order a minimum of 100 units with a logo. These come as new, uninitialized and engraved devices in original packaging. I have a ledger as well and it wouldn't be easy to open the packaging and the plastic case without making a single scratch on the surface and solder something inside. Then they'd have to clean it up from fingerprints and these cases get smeared easily, so you'd have to do everything in gloves. Doable, but we're talking about a 100 units here and if you scratched some of them, someone might notice it and sound the alarm.

Did any of you ledger winners notice anything suspicious on your devices? Were there scratches or fingerprints on the cases? Were the packages wrapped in plastic? Were there any initialized (asking for code after being powered) devices?

Anything is possible, but the way I see it, Betnomi ordered these as promotional devices and never attempted to do anything to them, even if they were planning to exit scam. These ledgers were a show of how serious about the business they were and how much money they were able to give back to the community.
legendary
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Here's what I managed to find (if we talk about hardware).

I have an idea... if we could find some trusted user who understands the hardware, I could ask MJ to send 1 Ledger for verification (up to parsing the device to check if the device has been modified). MJ has two more Ledgers that weren't claimed after the Bitcointalk Awards.

or

GazetaBitcoin also has several wallets that he won, so if he knows a little about the hardware, he also could open his own and see what's inside, and MJ will send him another one. Me need to ask him.
Either of them sounds good as long as it can be tested. Whoever it will be, I hope he is an expert.

Another question after seeing above pic, I also saw that winner got actual ledger wallets. How is it possible that they tampered with the wallet and also the primary packaging ?

Isn’t user would have known that if they had done something.
That's what we are talking about here. Anyone can alter a device if they spend a decent amount of money or even know the tech themselves. As an end user it's hard to know for you what happened. You will see exactly the same packaging like you buy it from the parent company.

@icopress, I think we are completely off-topic here. It's better if someone creates a new thread regarding this concern. We can continue discussion there.
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