I can confirm they can't manipulate the lottery draw. The drawing method is quite good and provably fair as they claim.
They don't need the House ID to win the prize. You will know it if you do some math.
I ticket cost 25k satoshi and with that 25000*5,954,089 = 1488.52225000 BTC
I'm not saying they are making that much profit(Number could be lying) but they can afford a Lambo giveaway easily with those stats.
Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest - page 1077. (Read 566987 times)
November 01, 2019, 11:45:20 PM
November 01, 2019, 07:01:50 PM
CURRENT BITCOIN BLOCK: 601845
BITCOIN BLOCK FOR CLIENT SEED: 601857
Any clue why 601846 to 601856 were not chosen but 601857? I may answer: they were used but winner is not the house owned ID until 601857. Someone if you know how is the calculation, please check if 601846 to 601856 yield any winner please.
The most questionable things that look suspicious is the ticket list & block id used for the draw were published at the same time with winner ID announcement. At least they could post the list first and announce the block ID which is 1 or 2 days ahead before the drawing taking place. It's fair if this block number was published before the announcement of drawing and then the winner, but in this case it's not and it's big question lol. Any way, you should do that way next draw.
BITCOIN BLOCK FOR CLIENT SEED: 601857
Any clue why 601846 to 601856 were not chosen but 601857? I may answer: they were used but winner is not the house owned ID until 601857. Someone if you know how is the calculation, please check if 601846 to 601856 yield any winner please.
The most questionable things that look suspicious is the ticket list & block id used for the draw were published at the same time with winner ID announcement. At least they could post the list first and announce the block ID which is 1 or 2 days ahead before the drawing taking place. It's fair if this block number was published before the announcement of drawing and then the winner, but in this case it's not and it's big question lol. Any way, you should do that way next draw.
It's an integral part of what makes it provably fair. We put a tweet out in advance with a link to the ticket file that tells you which block in the future will be used for the server seed. You can then download that file BEFORE the draw happens so you can prove we didn't do what you just said.
Of course, it had a super high affect but for some reason you guys decline to do the math, the way it could be calculated has been explained a million times already
Because I'm still waiting for an answer to this question and the million explanations of other ways are all wrong.
OK. You tell me the formula I should use to determine how much of the 150 BTC wagered yesterday would not have been wagered if we weren't giving away a Lambo and I'll tell you how well the promo is doing.
You may be correct they should publish all data they used for drawing
The Village Idiot is never correct. We did publish everything you need to work out the winner yourself.
https://twitter.com/freebitco/status/1190070026612531202
Quote
PROVABLY FAIR LOTTERY
SERVER SEED HASH FOR CURRENT ROUND
614b31c108dd30c335983826c64ea9a2bf258fc814d77c5a75d5e328bb1f12db
This lottery is provably fair. What that means is that there is no way the site can cheat you by picking a lottery winner who we favour. All winners are picked randomly and the method for picking the winners is described below.
At the beginning of each round, we generate a server seed for that round and show you the SHA256 hash of this seed.
When a lottery round has concluded, we make a list of all user id's and their lottery tickets and sort it in ascending order of the user id's.
We then use this list to assign ticket numbers for all tickets. For example if user id 1 has 10 tickets and user id 2 has 20 tickets, then user id 1 will have ticket numbers 0 to 9 and user id 2 will have ticket numbers from 10 to 29. This is done for all users.
Then the list containing the user id's, tickets held by each user and their ticket numbers is published in a text file. This file also contains the total number of tickets issued in the round and the server seed for that round.
A MD5 hash of this text file is calculated.
Then the current bitcoin block number is recorded and a block number that is 12 blocks into the future is decided on. The block hash of this future block is used as a "client seed" ie. a seed that we are not aware of when the list in step 4 has been published.
Then a tweet is made via our twitter account (https://twitter.com/freebitco) containing the link to the file generated in step 4, the MD5 hash of the file and the future bitcoin block number as determined in step 6. Since tweets cannot be edited, only deleted, this will provide a timestamp for when the list in step 4 was made, which can be compared to check that the bitcoin block determined in step 6 is in the future ie. we do not know the block hash of this block when the list is generated.
The winning ticket numbers will be calculated as described below:
A string (STRING1) is created - "[SERVER SEED]:[BLOCK HASH]:[WINNING POSITION]".
The SHA256 hash of STRING1 is calculated and the first 8 characters of this hash are taken (STRING2).
STRING2 is converted to a decimal which gives us a number between 0 and 4,294,967,295 (NUM1).
NUM1 is then multiplied by the (total number of tickets minus 1) and divided by 4,294,967,295 to get a number (NUM2) between 0 and the total number of tickets less 1.
NUM2 is then rounded off to the nearest whole number which is the winning ticket number.
HOW IS THE SYSTEM FAIR?
The system described above that is used for picking the winners is provably fair because it has multiple safeguards in place to ensure that winners are picked randomly and fairly.
We provide a SHA256 hash of the server seed when a lottery round starts. If we change the server seed at any time, the SHA256 hash of the new seed will not match the hash we provided earlier. After a round has ended and we provide the server seed that will be used to pick winners, the hash of the seed we provide can be checked against the hash we provided originally and both should match.
We use a future bitcoin block hash as the "client seed" ie. a seed that we do not know of. All bitcoin block hashes are unique and nobody knows what the block hash of a future block will be until the block has been mined.
We use twitter to publish the future bitcoin block number, the list of users and their ticket numbers and the MD5 hash of the user list. It provides a timestamp to check if the block hash that we use is indeed in the future. Since tweets cannot be edited, only deleted - if we delete the tweet after the future block has been mined and publish a new one, it would be easy to catch us cheating by comparing the timestamp of the tweet and that of the bitcoin block. The timestamp of the tweet should always be lesser than the time timestamp of the bitcoin block whose hash is used as the client seed.
We provide a MD5 hash of the text file containing the list of users and their ticket numbers. If even a single character in the text file is changed after the MD5 hash in the tweet is published, the MD5 hash of the edited file will not match the MD5 hash provided in the tweet.
SERVER SEED HASH FOR CURRENT ROUND
614b31c108dd30c335983826c64ea9a2bf258fc814d77c5a75d5e328bb1f12db
This lottery is provably fair. What that means is that there is no way the site can cheat you by picking a lottery winner who we favour. All winners are picked randomly and the method for picking the winners is described below.
At the beginning of each round, we generate a server seed for that round and show you the SHA256 hash of this seed.
When a lottery round has concluded, we make a list of all user id's and their lottery tickets and sort it in ascending order of the user id's.
We then use this list to assign ticket numbers for all tickets. For example if user id 1 has 10 tickets and user id 2 has 20 tickets, then user id 1 will have ticket numbers 0 to 9 and user id 2 will have ticket numbers from 10 to 29. This is done for all users.
Then the list containing the user id's, tickets held by each user and their ticket numbers is published in a text file. This file also contains the total number of tickets issued in the round and the server seed for that round.
A MD5 hash of this text file is calculated.
Then the current bitcoin block number is recorded and a block number that is 12 blocks into the future is decided on. The block hash of this future block is used as a "client seed" ie. a seed that we are not aware of when the list in step 4 has been published.
Then a tweet is made via our twitter account (https://twitter.com/freebitco) containing the link to the file generated in step 4, the MD5 hash of the file and the future bitcoin block number as determined in step 6. Since tweets cannot be edited, only deleted, this will provide a timestamp for when the list in step 4 was made, which can be compared to check that the bitcoin block determined in step 6 is in the future ie. we do not know the block hash of this block when the list is generated.
The winning ticket numbers will be calculated as described below:
A string (STRING1) is created - "[SERVER SEED]:[BLOCK HASH]:[WINNING POSITION]".
The SHA256 hash of STRING1 is calculated and the first 8 characters of this hash are taken (STRING2).
STRING2 is converted to a decimal which gives us a number between 0 and 4,294,967,295 (NUM1).
NUM1 is then multiplied by the (total number of tickets minus 1) and divided by 4,294,967,295 to get a number (NUM2) between 0 and the total number of tickets less 1.
NUM2 is then rounded off to the nearest whole number which is the winning ticket number.
HOW IS THE SYSTEM FAIR?
The system described above that is used for picking the winners is provably fair because it has multiple safeguards in place to ensure that winners are picked randomly and fairly.
We provide a SHA256 hash of the server seed when a lottery round starts. If we change the server seed at any time, the SHA256 hash of the new seed will not match the hash we provided earlier. After a round has ended and we provide the server seed that will be used to pick winners, the hash of the seed we provide can be checked against the hash we provided originally and both should match.
We use a future bitcoin block hash as the "client seed" ie. a seed that we do not know of. All bitcoin block hashes are unique and nobody knows what the block hash of a future block will be until the block has been mined.
We use twitter to publish the future bitcoin block number, the list of users and their ticket numbers and the MD5 hash of the user list. It provides a timestamp to check if the block hash that we use is indeed in the future. Since tweets cannot be edited, only deleted - if we delete the tweet after the future block has been mined and publish a new one, it would be easy to catch us cheating by comparing the timestamp of the tweet and that of the bitcoin block. The timestamp of the tweet should always be lesser than the time timestamp of the bitcoin block whose hash is used as the client seed.
We provide a MD5 hash of the text file containing the list of users and their ticket numbers. If even a single character in the text file is changed after the MD5 hash in the tweet is published, the MD5 hash of the edited file will not match the MD5 hash provided in the tweet.
November 01, 2019, 06:03:47 PM
It's only "correct" if your english is that of maybe pre-school level. You dont have 100 people come to an event and then claim 100s of thousands came to it just because 100s of thousands were aware of the event. That would be like the Powerball claiming that 7.53 billion users (current population of earth) played it's lottery last week simply because that many people know of it's existence. Traffic or popularity has NOTHING to do with how many of anything participated in an event let alone this lambo sham. The txt file they put out DOESNT MATCH what they claimed on their own blog post. That just goes to show a precedence of lying when there is no need to do so. That kind of thing has a name. It's called: Compulsive lying.
You may be correct they should publish all data they used for drawing
November 01, 2019, 05:49:38 PM
I've checked my email for the Lambo delivery details, it must be backlogged. I didnt spot where the list is immediately, if you point me to the text file I'll check for my own user ID on there. I didnt have many tickets but even this guy with 180 tickets is pretty lucky and Im sure some had many more then that.
I worked out the interest if they deposit their 21.87 prize and leave it while they ponder the riches, its over .002 BTC a day or 22 dollars or almost 0.9 BTC for a year. Enough to buy a used mini even while holding hoping for the BTC highs, ie. buy the Lambo later
I worked out the interest if they deposit their 21.87 prize and leave it while they ponder the riches, its over .002 BTC a day or 22 dollars or almost 0.9 BTC for a year. Enough to buy a used mini even while holding hoping for the BTC highs, ie. buy the Lambo later
November 01, 2019, 05:29:32 PM
You people are so gullible its pathetic lol.
Nothing is as pathetic as simultaneously trolling this thread and also promoting the site to earn referral commissions from people gullible enough to think your shitbot dice script gives them some advantage.
No more pathetic than this little gem: "A provably fair draw picked out a lucky name, rather, a lucky User ID out of the millions of users that participated, and the winner is all set to receive a brand new Lamborghini Huracan or 21.87 BTC as a prize. " Quoted directly from: https://freebitco.in/site/blogs/bitcoin/lamborghini-giveaway-winner-announced/ and saved here: https://web.archive.org/save/https://freebitco.in/site/blogs/bitcoin/lamborghini-giveaway-winner-announced/ in case you try to edit it lol
Crack open the User IDs txt file and what do we find? 66354 user IDs (of which about only 50-100 are actually "real", give or take a few 100). Thats a FAR cry from "Millions of users". Lie some more pls. Like I said b4, the lotteries (including this lambo thing) are a complete sham and waste of time. No one real actually wins those. Ever. And if they do, it's a small miracle due to the sheer amount of fake accounts you place in the drawing pools.
Bottom line, if you cant "prove" the user ID's are REAL, then the whole "Provably fair" claim goes right out the window. End of story.
New idea for the "Betting" section:
Will the next Lottery or Lambo winner post in the bitcointalk threads!
Options:
"Yes" but it'll come from an unverified/newbie account
"Yes" It'll come from a verified account with lots of post history (Most likely to receive 0 votes here lol)
"No" Thats absurd, no one actually wins these things.
I even gave you 2 "Yes" options. lol
CURRENT BITCOIN BLOCK: 601845
BITCOIN BLOCK FOR CLIENT SEED: 601857
Any clue why 601846 to 601856 were not chosen but 601857? I may answer: they were used but winner is not the house owned ID until 601857. Someone if you know how is the calculation, please check if 601846 to 601856 yield any winner please.
The most questionable things that look suspicious is the ticket list & block id used for the draw were published at the same time with winner ID announcement. At least they could post the list first and announce the block ID which is 1 or 2 days ahead before the drawing taking place. It's fair if this block number was published before the announcement of drawing and then the winner, but in this case it's not and it's big question lol. Any way, you should do that way next draw.
November 01, 2019, 04:57:28 PM
It's only "correct" if your english is that of maybe pre-school level. You dont have 100 people come to an event and then claim 100s of thousands came to it just because 100s of thousands were aware of the event. That would be like the Powerball claiming that 7.53 billion users (current population of earth) played it's lottery last week simply because that many people know of it's existence. Traffic or popularity has NOTHING to do with how many of anything participated in an event let alone this lambo sham. The txt file they put out DOESNT MATCH what they claimed on their own blog post. That just goes to show a precedence of lying when there is no need to do so. That kind of thing has a name. It's called: Compulsive lying.
November 01, 2019, 04:38:34 PM
You people are so gullible its pathetic lol.
Nothing is as pathetic as simultaneously trolling this thread and also promoting the site to earn referral commissions from people gullible enough to think your shitbot dice script gives them some advantage.
No more pathetic than this little gem: "A provably fair draw picked out a lucky name, rather, a lucky User ID out of the millions of users that participated, and the winner is all set to receive a brand new Lamborghini Huracan or 21.87 BTC as a prize. " Quoted directly from: https://freebitco.in/site/blogs/bitcoin/lamborghini-giveaway-winner-announced/ and saved here: https://web.archive.org/save/https://freebitco.in/site/blogs/bitcoin/lamborghini-giveaway-winner-announced/ in case you try to edit it lol
Crack open the User IDs txt file and what do we find? 66354 user IDs (of which about only 50-100 are actually "real", give or take a few 100). Thats a FAR cry from "Millions of users". Lie some more pls. Like I said b4, the lotteries (including this lambo thing) are a complete sham and waste of time. No one real actually wins those. Ever. And if they do, it's a small miracle due to the sheer amount of fake accounts you place in the drawing pools.
Bottom line, if you cant "prove" the user ID's are REAL, then the whole "Provably fair" claim goes right out the window. End of story.
They have more traffic than blockchain.info and huge army of affiliates millions should be correct
November 01, 2019, 04:14:19 PM
You people are so gullible its pathetic lol.
Nothing is as pathetic as simultaneously trolling this thread and also promoting the site to earn referral commissions from people gullible enough to think your shitbot dice script gives them some advantage.
No more pathetic than this little gem: "A provably fair draw picked out a lucky name, rather, a lucky User ID out of the millions of users that participated, and the winner is all set to receive a brand new Lamborghini Huracan or 21.87 BTC as a prize. " Quoted directly from: https://freebitco.in/site/blogs/bitcoin/lamborghini-giveaway-winner-announced/ and saved here: https://web.archive.org/save/https://freebitco.in/site/blogs/bitcoin/lamborghini-giveaway-winner-announced/ in case you try to edit it lol
Crack open the User IDs txt file and what do we find? 66354 user IDs (of which about only 50-100 are actually "real", give or take a few 100). Thats a FAR cry from "Millions of users". Lie some more pls. Like I said b4, the lotteries (including this lambo thing) are a complete sham and waste of time. No one real actually wins those. Ever. And if they do, it's a small miracle due to the sheer amount of fake accounts you place in the drawing pools.
Bottom line, if you cant "prove" the user ID's are REAL, then the whole "Provably fair" claim goes right out the window. End of story.
New idea for the "Betting" section:
Will the next Lottery or Lambo winner post in the bitcointalk threads!
Options:
"Yes" but it'll come from an unverified/newbie account
"Yes" It'll come from a verified account with lots of post history (Most likely to receive 0 votes here lol)
"No" Thats absurd, no one actually wins these things.
I even gave you 2 "Yes" options. lol
November 01, 2019, 12:59:44 PM
Congratulations are in order for the user that won the Lambo or the bitcoins. 
I can confirm that it was not me who won it. 
I hope this user will post something for us in this thread to give us some insight on who won this. Can the site owner share with us, if the owner contacted him and if he or she preferred to take the bitcoins or the car?
We have been waiting so long for this and curiosity is killing me. I know this is very sensitive information and people would not reveal their real identity, but please post something anonymous.
I can confirm that it was not me who won it. I hope this user will post something for us in this thread to give us some insight on who won this. Can the site owner share with us, if the owner contacted him and if he or she preferred to take the bitcoins or the car?
We have been waiting so long for this and curiosity is killing me. I know this is very sensitive information and people would not reveal their real identity, but please post something anonymous.
We've emailed them to ask if they want the Lambo or the Bitcoin. I'm waiting for a reply.
Looks are like some are still betting for that Lambo, and the round has resetted back to 180 days 
They're betting on the next Lambo.
@Kakmakr indeed we all should congratulate the winner, but sadly he’s not on this forum so we can’t congratulate him unless he comes here and verifies he’s the winner. @TheQuin do update us here whenever he makes up his mind, and when you say next Lambo are you implying that there’s another contest to win a Lamborghini?.
November 01, 2019, 10:04:27 AM
It is awesome that the furthest thequin and wetsuit could tell to people is that "we did had a good 6 months and lambo and it is reasonable to assume lambo played a positive impact on that". Do you think? A whole lambo giveaway with 200k on the line if the person doesn't want Lambo could had a positive impact on your website .
Of course, it had a super high affect but for some reason you guys decline to do the math, the way it could be calculated has been explained a million times already but it looks like you will decline to declare you guys profited a ton (probably 4-5 lambo worth at least) on this. And it is your right too, like nobody saying "how could you profit from your business!! you should be going bankrupt!!" lol, of course, you need to profit, it is a business, that is what business are for but trying to act like it is not a big deal makes it looks like it is funny.
.Of course, it had a super high affect but for some reason you guys decline to do the math, the way it could be calculated has been explained a million times already but it looks like you will decline to declare you guys profited a ton (probably 4-5 lambo worth at least) on this. And it is your right too, like nobody saying "how could you profit from your business!! you should be going bankrupt!!" lol, of course, you need to profit, it is a business, that is what business are for but trying to act like it is not a big deal makes it looks like it is funny.
November 01, 2019, 03:10:02 AM
They're betting on the next Lambo.
Okay, hopefully I manage to get 1 ticket this time around!
November 01, 2019, 02:48:59 AM
Has Wetsuit indicated yet, if he is going to do this again and if it was profitable or not? I guess it is not that simple to work out the profitability of a lucky draw like this.
Just a little suggestion from my side would be that he might have more lucky draws with smaller prices and also shorter waiting periods. Let's say a few XBox or Play stations or expensive phones or something on a regular basis?
He can also have one big prize like the Lambo if it was profitable, but I would much rather prefer one big prize and a lot smaller prices to make more people smile about this. Tesla next?
Just a little suggestion from my side would be that he might have more lucky draws with smaller prices and also shorter waiting periods. Let's say a few XBox or Play stations or expensive phones or something on a regular basis?
He can also have one big prize like the Lambo if it was profitable, but I would much rather prefer one big prize and a lot smaller prices to make more people smile about this.
Tesla next? The timer is running again as the next round to win the next Lambo has already started. As was discussed in the last few days in this thread it isn't possible to quantify how much extra was wagered because of the Lambo so it isn't possible to work out the profitability either. We did have a good 6 months and it's reasonable to assume the Lambo had a positive impact on that.
November 01, 2019, 02:44:00 AM
Congratulations are in order for the user that won the Lambo or the bitcoins. I can confirm that it was not me who won it.
I hope this user will post something for us in this thread to give us some insight on who won this. Can the site owner share with us, if the owner contacted him and if he or she preferred to take the bitcoins or the car?
We have been waiting so long for this and curiosity is killing me. I know this is very sensitive information and people would not reveal their real identity, but please post something anonymous.
I can confirm that it was not me who won it. I hope this user will post something for us in this thread to give us some insight on who won this. Can the site owner share with us, if the owner contacted him and if he or she preferred to take the bitcoins or the car?
We have been waiting so long for this and curiosity is killing me. I know this is very sensitive information and people would not reveal their real identity, but please post something anonymous.
We've emailed them to ask if they want the Lambo or the Bitcoin. I'm waiting for a reply.
Looks are like some are still betting for that Lambo, and the round has resetted back to 180 days
They're betting on the next Lambo.
Has Wetsuit indicated yet, if he is going to do this again and if it was profitable or not? I guess it is not that simple to work out the profitability of a lucky draw like this.
Just a little suggestion from my side would be that he might have more lucky draws with smaller prices and also shorter waiting periods. Let's say a few XBox or Play stations or expensive phones or something on a regular basis?
He can also have one big prize like the Lambo if it was profitable, but I would much rather prefer one big prize and a lot smaller prices to make more people smile about this.
Tesla next? November 01, 2019, 02:40:30 AM
I am sure he will go for the Bitcoins. Maintaining a Lambo will be difficult for a user with just 185 tickets.
I can't believe it is happening for real. People are winning Lambogini from a website that used to be a faucet a few years ago.
I am still looking for freebitco.in to implement something user can control while playing Multiple BTC. Randomising client seed isn't enough I want full control over that seed.
I can't believe it is happening for real. People are winning Lambogini from a website that used to be a faucet a few years ago.
I am still looking for freebitco.in to implement something user can control while playing Multiple BTC. Randomising client seed isn't enough I want full control over that seed.
Use the programmer mode on DiceBot. https://bot.seuntjie.com/GettingStarted.aspx#programmer
November 01, 2019, 02:30:20 AM
I am sure he will go for the Bitcoins. Maintaining a Lambo will be difficult for a user with just 185 tickets.
I can't believe it is happening for real. People are winning Lambogini from a website that used to be a faucet a few years ago.
I am still looking for freebitco.in to implement something user can control while playing Multiple BTC. Randomising client seed isn't enough I want full control over that seed.
I can't believe it is happening for real. People are winning Lambogini from a website that used to be a faucet a few years ago.
I am still looking for freebitco.in to implement something user can control while playing Multiple BTC. Randomising client seed isn't enough I want full control over that seed.
November 01, 2019, 02:04:46 AM
Looks are like some are still betting for that Lambo, and the round has resetted back to 180 days
Their Twitter said "LAMBO ROUND 1" which mean it's repeat...too much profit for them lol.
November 01, 2019, 02:00:49 AM
Congratulations are in order for the user that won the Lambo or the bitcoins. I can confirm that it was not me who won it.
I hope this user will post something for us in this thread to give us some insight on who won this. Can the site owner share with us, if the owner contacted him and if he or she preferred to take the bitcoins or the car?
We have been waiting so long for this and curiosity is killing me. I know this is very sensitive information and people would not reveal their real identity, but please post something anonymous.
I can confirm that it was not me who won it. I hope this user will post something for us in this thread to give us some insight on who won this. Can the site owner share with us, if the owner contacted him and if he or she preferred to take the bitcoins or the car?
We have been waiting so long for this and curiosity is killing me. I know this is very sensitive information and people would not reveal their real identity, but please post something anonymous.
We've emailed them to ask if they want the Lambo or the Bitcoin. I'm waiting for a reply.
Looks are like some are still betting for that Lambo, and the round has resetted back to 180 days
They're betting on the next Lambo.
November 01, 2019, 01:57:45 AM
Looks are like some are still betting for that Lambo, and the round has resetted back to 180 days
November 01, 2019, 01:53:34 AM
Congratulations are in order for the user that won the Lambo or the bitcoins. I can confirm that it was not me who won it.
I hope this user will post something for us in this thread to give us some insight on who won this. Can the site owner share with us, if the owner contacted him and if he or she preferred to take the bitcoins or the car?
We have been waiting so long for this and curiosity is killing me. I know this is very sensitive information and people would not reveal their real identity, but please post something anonymous.
I can confirm that it was not me who won it. I hope this user will post something for us in this thread to give us some insight on who won this. Can the site owner share with us, if the owner contacted him and if he or she preferred to take the bitcoins or the car?
We have been waiting so long for this and curiosity is killing me. I know this is very sensitive information and people would not reveal their real identity, but please post something anonymous.
November 01, 2019, 12:13:58 AM
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