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Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest - page 1226. (Read 559515 times)

newbie
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4 reward point per roll, -1 per no captcha =3
7 rp - 2 = 5
9 rp - 3 = 6
11 rp - 4 = 7
11 rp - 5 = 6
10 rp - 6 = 4
8 rp - 7 = 1

wait, did you just say cool down? let's hear it......
legendary
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Yes, this is pretty huge amount to wager just in a couple of days actually so may be around 3 days or something he already got that amount and I know this will be no chance for me like low player to wager that huge amount. But to have 0.1 btc wager with 0.001 and 1.01x multiplier, I think you will lose fast, you need to wager 100 times to cover your initial bet mean while it is better if you use 1.1x multiplier. But all of this is not a guarantee you can achieve that. But basically when I have 0.1 btc with 0.001 btc, the wagered amount will be around 4x-5x. Never hit more than that ever, but may be you can try it

I've got out of the Multiply BTC bonus a few times with a 25x rollover requirement. I don't like using the low multiplier strategy for this, I'd rather just bet normally. Trying lots of low multiplier bets just reduces the probability of variance being in your favour. The higher the number of bets the closer to the expected value you get. That's the same reason bots and scripts reduce your chances. I prefer to make fewer larger bets.

With something like bet high and bet low button, I can still manage it to get few rollover but if only there is only one button and I need to click to change it again then it seema like they are cheating on me. When I change the button from high to low the result will change drastically too, so the result almost 80% losing. That is why I do not really like wagering competition anyway. Sorry no offend Grin

I hope you understand that it's just a coincidence. There is no correlation whatsoever between your betting HI or LO and the probability of winning a bet. I'm not urging you to take part in the wagering competition, but your reason for not liking it looks very strange to me. Smiley

I rarely play HI/LO game on FreeBitco.in, but just now played couple of minutes and I had 8 greens in a row with 2x multiplier. I've seen much more greens in a row but never on this site. I mean, this can happen even with the 5% house edge the site has.
hero member
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there is a new "pay with point than captcha" thing, feels like getting bigger the more you use it.....

Yes, that's how it works. It is 1 RP the first time and it increases by 1 RP everytime you use it. When you don't use it there is a cooldown period and it will start reducing based on the proportion of RP captcha Vs. captcha.
newbie
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there is a new "pay with point than captcha" thing, feels like getting bigger the more you use it.....
legendary
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Yes, this is pretty huge amount to wager just in a couple of days actually so may be around 3 days or something he already got that amount and I know this will be no chance for me like low player to wager that huge amount. But to have 0.1 btc wager with 0.001 and 1.01x multiplier, I think you will lose fast, you need to wager 100 times to cover your initial bet mean while it is better if you use 1.1x multiplier. But all of this is not a guarantee you can achieve that. But basically when I have 0.1 btc with 0.001 btc, the wagered amount will be around 4x-5x. Never hit more than that ever, but may be you can try it

I've got out of the Multiply BTC bonus a few times with a 25x rollover requirement. I don't like using the low multiplier strategy for this, I'd rather just bet normally. Trying lots of low multiplier bets just reduces the probability of variance being in your favour. The higher the number of bets the closer to the expected value you get. That's the same reason bots and scripts reduce your chances. I prefer to make fewer larger bets.

With something like bet high and bet low button, I can still manage it to get few rollover but if only there is only one button and I need to click to change it again then it seema like they are cheating on me. When I change the button from high to low the result will change drastically too, so the result almost 80% losing. That is why I do not really like wagering competition anyway. Sorry no offend Grin
hero member
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there is always some damn newbies who would ruin it for everyone.

and the concern is not about paying 200 satoshi! it is about the fact that mempool now contains transactions that are paying 5 times the recommended fee and that can be the start of how fees shoot up whenever there is a backlog.

FWIW I think exactly the same. The problem is that people are less likely to complain about that than they are to scream scam when they have to wait for 12 hrs for a confirm. On the plus side, the change won't affect the mempool much as the slow withdrawals are batched together and only one Tx is sent every 6 hours.
legendary
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We had a few occasions when the slow withdrawal wasn't getting confirmed on the network for many hours and our support email got filled up with "Where's my money you scammers?' and the like. So we have increased the fee we use to try and ensure it always gets into the next block.

there is always some damn newbies who would ruin it for everyone.

and the concern is not about paying 200 satoshi! it is about the fact that mempool now contains transactions that are paying 5 times the recommended fee and that can be the start of how fees shoot up whenever there is a backlog.
hero member
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is the fee estimation of the website broken or am I missing something?

for a while now I am seeing the minimum withdrawal fee has been increased from 40 satoshi to 200 satoshi. at first I thought the website just increased it but looking at the payments it seems like they are paying higher fee than usual.
for example this is the latest withdrawal (SLOW) which should have paid 1 satoshi/byte but it is paying 5
https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/tx/7277b96054ac64261b2ffdf6d8fa7be6462d1731812d6a42047da7e6f7d2dee7

if you look at the mempool at that time it was empty and you can check the block that it was included in and previous ones and see they are filled with 1-2 s/b transactions.

so what is up?

We had a few occasions when the slow withdrawal wasn't getting confirmed on the network for many hours and our support email got filled up with "Where's my money you scammers?' and the like. So we have increased the fee we use to try and ensure it always gets into the next block.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1163
Where is my ring of blades...
is the fee estimation of the website broken or am I missing something?

for a while now I am seeing the minimum withdrawal fee has been increased from 40 satoshi to 200 satoshi. at first I thought the website just increased it but looking at the payments it seems like they are paying higher fee than usual.
for example this is the latest withdrawal (SLOW) which should have paid 1 satoshi/byte but it is paying 5
https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/tx/7277b96054ac64261b2ffdf6d8fa7be6462d1731812d6a42047da7e6f7d2dee7

if you look at the mempool at that time it was empty and you can check the block that it was included in and previous ones and see they are filled with 1-2 s/b transactions.

so what is up?
hero member
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I've got out of the Multiply BTC bonus a few times with a 25x rollover requirement. I don't like using the low multiplier strategy for this, I'd rather just bet normally. Trying lots of low multiplier bets just reduces the probability of variance being in your favour. The higher the number of bets the closer to the expected value you get. That's the same reason bots and scripts reduce your chances. I prefer to make fewer larger bets.
I'm a bit confused with your technique, is it avoid low multiplier and make fewer larger bets?
wouldn't that (there's a chance) make you lost big amount if got hit by bad long losing streak
so are you saying betting normally with 2x multiplier would be better?
why betting higher amount with low multiplier wouldn't work the same? (towards 25x rollover)
is it because the return too small to cover the losses?

The multiplier wasn't the point I was trying to make, I'm just saying I wouldn't change that.

I bolded the important bit of your quote. Yes, there is a chance that you get hit with a bad luck streak but there is also a chance that you get a good luck streak. That's variance of luck. Smaller sample sizes will have more variance and the longer you continue playing the less variance there is. Over a large enough sample size, there will be almost no variance so the result will tend towards the expected value, ie. the house edge.

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I've got out of the Multiply BTC bonus a few times with a 25x rollover requirement. I don't like using the low multiplier strategy for this, I'd rather just bet normally. Trying lots of low multiplier bets just reduces the probability of variance being in your favour. The higher the number of bets the closer to the expected value you get. That's the same reason bots and scripts reduce your chances. I prefer to make fewer larger bets.
I'm a bit confused with your technique, is it avoid low multiplier and make fewer larger bets?
wouldn't that (there's a chance) make you lost big amount if got hit by bad long losing streak
so are you saying betting normally with 2x multiplier would be better?
why betting higher amount with low multiplier wouldn't work the same? (towards 25x rollover)
is it because the return too small to cover the losses?

At the end of the day it's based on luck.
I just did my 1.01x on about 50 bets and managed to lose three of them.

Meanwhile, a few days ago, I made close to 250 bets and only lost once.
I usually try to martingale at 2x starting low (around 8 sats) but even then you lose quite a bit and if you win, you only get an extra 8/34 sats (depending on the strategy).
hero member
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I've got out of the Multiply BTC bonus a few times with a 25x rollover requirement. I don't like using the low multiplier strategy for this, I'd rather just bet normally. Trying lots of low multiplier bets just reduces the probability of variance being in your favour. The higher the number of bets the closer to the expected value you get. That's the same reason bots and scripts reduce your chances. I prefer to make fewer larger bets.
I'm a bit confused with your technique, is it avoid low multiplier and make fewer larger bets?
wouldn't that (there's a chance) make you lost big amount if got hit by bad long losing streak
so are you saying betting normally with 2x multiplier would be better?
why betting higher amount with low multiplier wouldn't work the same? (towards 25x rollover)
is it because the return too small to cover the losses?
sr. member
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hero member
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Yes, this is pretty huge amount to wager just in a couple of days actually so may be around 3 days or something he already got that amount and I know this will be no chance for me like low player to wager that huge amount. But to have 0.1 btc wager with 0.001 and 1.01x multiplier, I think you will lose fast, you need to wager 100 times to cover your initial bet mean while it is better if you use 1.1x multiplier. But all of this is not a guarantee you can achieve that. But basically when I have 0.1 btc with 0.001 btc, the wagered amount will be around 4x-5x. Never hit more than that ever, but may be you can try it

I've got out of the Multiply BTC bonus a few times with a 25x rollover requirement. I don't like using the low multiplier strategy for this, I'd rather just bet normally. Trying lots of low multiplier bets just reduces the probability of variance being in your favour. The higher the number of bets the closer to the expected value you get. That's the same reason bots and scripts reduce your chances. I prefer to make fewer larger bets.
legendary
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The highest wagerer is currently at 70BTC, that's higher then I'd have expected. I was going to put in 0.1BTC and get a bot running to gamble with 0.001BTC and see how high I could get (with 0.01 odds) but that seems a bit dishonest - though theres still an equal chance to gaining and losing the same amount. I'm not sure if anyone's done this though (there's probably a slim chance you'll get profit from it or your betting will at least last a bit longer on the site).

Yes, this is pretty huge amount to wager just in a couple of days actually so may be around 3 days or something he already got that amount and I know this will be no chance for me like low player to wager that huge amount. But to have 0.1 btc wager with 0.001 and 1.01x multiplier, I think you will lose fast, you need to wager 100 times to cover your initial bet mean while it is better if you use 1.1x multiplier. But all of this is not a guarantee you can achieve that. But basically when I have 0.1 btc with 0.001 btc, the wagered amount will be around 4x-5x. Never hit more than that ever, but may be you can try it
hero member
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And now we know...

@broken, ~

Maybe discuss that in his thread, not ours?

Edit.
It's off topic here, please don't encourage him to spam about his service in our thread by asking him about it.
copper member
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Reading isnt the problem bub,  it's lack of actually using

That's why everything you say is wrong.

And now we know...

@broken, what happened to the youtube live stream, why switch sites?

@TheQuin, then I'd have to bother go finding his thread, I don't see an advert for it in his sig?
hero member
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Reading isnt the problem bub,  it's lack of actually using

That's why everything you say is wrong.
jr. member
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I know you have learning difficulties and find it hard to read

Reading isnt the problem bub,  it's lack of actually using this shit site that is the issue at hand.  I wouldnt be caught dead putting a single satoshi into a site that fulfills nearly every scam checkbox on this site:  https://www.gamblingsites.com/online-casino/blacklist/

only a small number come forward even with a $5 incentive

What?  Wait a minute,  let me get this straight.  This shit site actually PAYS people to reply about their wins here and there still isnt anyone doing that?  Yet they fall over themselves about low wins and post everywhere about it (according to you anyway,  I dont follow nor use it enough to see anything of the sorts)?  Ya ok,  thats DEFINITELY fishy for sure.  Even if it were a 10BTC win,  that's nothing to be hush or private about.  No hacker/kidnapper/whatever doomsday scenario you come up with will give 2 shits about 10btc or less (self included).  Now if it were 1000BTC,  ok maybe it would be a bad idea to talk about it.  But 0.5, 1, even 2, or less?  Uhm.  Thats absolutely NOTHING to write home about and bragging about it is completely within reason.

You know shit isnt going good when you cant even PAY people to talk about it hahahaha.  I'd bet 0.5BTC that even if the incentive was increased to $6000 (roughly the same amount as the top price),  you still wouldnt get anyone to reply.  I can write up an ETH contract for the bet lol Cheesy
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
Are you going to keep your withdrawal fees as low as they are today or will they be a bit higher? Btw Shapeshift charges 0.0005 BTC for any operation, which is not that small. I hope your fees will be much less than that.

I really don't any information as nothing has been decided yet. I don't think adding more coins or features will have any effect on withdrawal fees. I imagine the main use of the exchange will be people changing what the get from the faucet and making small deposits from other altcoin faucets so I can't imagine a minimum fee anywhere near that high. I use another gambling site that has many coins and they charge through the spread rather than a fee. I think that would be a good way do it here as well.

When a site is charging through the spread it's much better for its users because you instantly know what you get while a high withdrawal fee comes as a bitter surprise. Hopefully, FreeBitco.in will be doing the same as the site you are using.

I base this on the feedback that are received on the bigger Freeroll prizes that are won, with the faucet. The people there are almost going through the roof with excitement over $20 and I would have thought if someone have won bigger prizes in the Lottery, they would have gone crazy.

We are dealing with almost 1600 winners in +/- 3 years, so it is strange that we not seeing people raving about Lottery prizes too. It is after all ranging from $10 to $12 000, weekly.  Roll Eyes

We've been through this argument countless times before I started working for the site. There are far more $20/200 winners and only a small number come forward even with a $5 incentive. I find it understandable that the vast majority of lottery winners would rather remain anonymous or just couldn't be bothered to spend time posting here. The only thing I can't understand is how someone could find that strange.

I personally can't understand that either. It's a common thing that people who win money desire to remain anonymous especially when they win big. They may brag a lot about winning $20, but they would stay quiet in a case of winning over 0.5 BTC.
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