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Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest - page 1265. (Read 565941 times)

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Spend something that you will not know the result?

I think that is pretty much the definition of gambling.  Wink
legendary
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Hmm, I never seem to have any luck with the lottery here even when I have a lot of tickets. I have been in here since 2015 and in that time I haven't won a single prize so my luck is very bad lol I don't mind as I know winning any lottery is very hard with the massive odds against us but it would of been nice to at least win something in the 3 years I've been in here.

What do you mean a lot of tickets? Are you saying that you are getting it from the freerolls? I do not think that freerolls ticketd will work since you can only get just little from there. Time does not related to anything on the lottery actually, what you really need is luck, and if you want to spend more it will of course boost your luck but the point is are you willing to do it? s
Spend something that you will not know the result?
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So block 529054 is mined at 16:59:59 UTC well after the ticket list was published at 15:49 UTC (and I didn't win yet again).

Congratulations to #9853506 on winning 2.56798446 BTC.

These guy is pretty lucky to only have 15,362 tickets and to be able to win the first prize. Congrats!
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
Hmm, I never seem to have any luck with the lottery here even when I have a lot of tickets. I have been in here since 2015 and in that time I haven't won a single prize so my luck is very bad lol I don't mind as I know winning any lottery is very hard with the massive odds against us but it would of been nice to at least win something in the 3 years I've been in here.

I'm the same. Registered three years ago just before making this bitcointalk account and still haven't won anything. Even winning the smallest prize there would be quite a nice change.

Hopefully the build up for both of us is that we're going to win the top prize instead at some point.
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Hmm, I never seem to have any luck with the lottery here even when I have a lot of tickets. I have been in here since 2015 and in that time I haven't won a single prize so my luck is very bad lol I don't mind as I know winning any lottery is very hard with the massive odds against us but it would of been nice to at least win something in the 3 years I've been in here.
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
So block 529054 is mined at 16:59:59 UTC well after the ticket list was published at 15:49 UTC (and I didn't win yet again).

Congratulations to #9853506 on winning 2.56798446 BTC.

You could fix it so I win and then it doesn't look fixed (just saying)?

The winning numbers were nowhere near mine Sad.
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LOTTERY ROUND 160
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #7 with 9,812 tickets.
#1 won 2.56798446 BTC with 15,362 tickets.
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So block 529054 is mined at 16:59:59 UTC well after the ticket list was published at 15:49 UTC (and I didn't win yet again).

Congratulations to #9853506 on winning 2.56798446 BTC.
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Well someone are definitely buying very close to the draw, because 2 BTC worth of tickets were bought about 2 hours before

the draw was done. Yes, most of the entries might be coming from FREE ROLL and REWARDS but a spike like that cannot be

from FREE ROLLS and Rewards   Roll Eyes  ... In any way, there are 30 minutes to the DRAW and 1,041,914,195 tickets was

bought/entered so far.  Roll Eyes

Oh yeah, I'm not saying that isn't the case, I was trying to answer your criticism of "Only 1/3 of the money goes towards lottery prizes" when we actually put more into the prize pool than we take from ticket sales. Those increased sales this week have boosted the payout pool and... damn it I missed the end.... but the total payout will be much higher this week.


Edit:

https://twitter.com/freebitco/status/1010912792419815424
1,050,793,433 TICKETS!

So I've got ticket numbers 19,065 to 19,810. Now just waiting on block 529054.




Edit 2:

This morning when I logged in for the first time, I saw the total tickets sold for the Lottery was about 800,000,000+ and just

a few hours {2 hours} before the draw, it jumped up with 200,000,000 tickets.

Well someone are definitely buying very close to the draw, because 2 BTC worth of tickets were bought about 2 hours before

the draw was done.

Actually I am going to argue that. I was talking to wetsuit via email this morning because I had some question about how this works and I wrote an email timestamped 9 hours ago that there were 958,692,240 tickets.

1,050,793,433 - 958,692,240 = 92,101,193 in 9 hours not 200,000,000 in 2 hours.
legendary
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Just a quick observation from me :

This morning when I logged in for the first time, I saw the total tickets sold for the Lottery was about 800,000,000+ and just

a few hours {2 hours} before the draw, it jumped up with 200,000,000 tickets. I will watch this more closely from now on, to

see when the most tickets are bought. It average about 100,000,000 tickets per day. Freebitco.in has some great Website

Stats, but I do not see any stats on the Lottery.  Roll Eyes

Last Weeks total tickets for the draw was 1,000,923,029 and we are already at 1,028,958,943 tickets with 1hour 30min to go

to the draw.  Shocked

Last Week 10.00923029 BTC was spend on Lottery tickets and a total of 2.65515091 BTC was paid out to Lottery Winners.

{Only 1/3 of the money goes towards lottery prizes}

It's complicated because not all the tickets are bought and we give away most of the tickets. So 10.00923029 BTC was not spent on the lottery. We actually run it at a loss to attract people to the site.
This week we put in a restriction on redeeming reward points for the top levels of Free BTC bonus on accounts that don't wager or wager very little. It looks like lots of accounts have redeemed for 100 lottery tickets per free roll instead.


Well someone are definitely buying very close to the draw, because 2 BTC worth of tickets were bought about 2 hours before

the draw was done. Yes, most of the entries might be coming from FREE ROLL and REWARDS but a spike like that cannot be

from FREE ROLLS and Rewards   Roll Eyes  ... In any way, there are 30 minutes to the DRAW and 1,041,914,195 tickets was

bought/entered so far.  Roll Eyes
hero member
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Just a quick observation from me :

This morning when I logged in for the first time, I saw the total tickets sold for the Lottery was about 800,000,000+ and just

a few hours {2 hours} before the draw, it jumped up with 200,000,000 tickets. I will watch this more closely from now on, to

see when the most tickets are bought. It average about 100,000,000 tickets per day. Freebitco.in has some great Website

Stats, but I do not see any stats on the Lottery.  Roll Eyes

Last Weeks total tickets for the draw was 1,000,923,029 and we are already at 1,028,958,943 tickets with 1hour 30min to go

to the draw.  Shocked

Last Week 10.00923029 BTC was spend on Lottery tickets and a total of 2.65515091 BTC was paid out to Lottery Winners.

{Only 1/3 of the money goes towards lottery prizes}

It's complicated because not all the tickets are bought and we give away most of the tickets. So 10.00923029 BTC was not spent on the lottery. We actually run it at a loss to attract people to the site.
This week we put in a restriction on redeeming reward points for the top levels of Free BTC bonus on accounts that don't wager or wager very little. It looks like lots of accounts have redeemed for 100 lottery tickets per free roll instead.
legendary
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Just a quick observation from me :

This morning when I logged in for the first time, I saw the total tickets sold for the Lottery was about 800,000,000+ and just

a few hours {2 hours} before the draw, it jumped up with 200,000,000 tickets. I will watch this more closely from now on, to

see when the most tickets are bought. It average about 100,000,000 tickets per day. Freebitco.in has some great Website

Stats, but I do not see any stats on the Lottery.  Roll Eyes

Last Weeks total tickets for the draw was 1,000,923,029 and we are already at 1,028,958,943 tickets with 1hour 30min to go

to the draw.  Shocked

Last Week 10.00923029 BTC was spend on Lottery tickets and a total of 2.65515091 BTC was paid out to Lottery Winners.

{Only 1/3 of the money goes towards lottery prizes}
hero member
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So even if they assort the userids in ascending order and give tickets accordingly, still they have scope left for increasing the number of tickets of their favoured userid to win the lottery.

The file lists the user IDs and the ticket numbers each one has. You can download a copy of it before the draw. So we don't have scope to change anything.


Just to clarify, would a signed deposit address still work in this case if the 2fa key was lost the sim to a phone number (so you don't have to wait the 7 or so days to get control of the number again).



I wouldn't trust printing out keys and storing them somewhere even if that place is locked. Although, if you stored the encrypted keys then it'd be a bit better -you can brute force it still without them being encrypted.


can we get a live chart for the contest and the amounts that people have wagered in total since the start of July (for when that comes) - not sure if this was already said.

I would set the default withdrawal address on the profile page to one that you can sign a message from. Given that then yes we would be able to disable 2FA if requested.

Backing up your 2FA keys is a personal choice. I use Winauth and that allows you to export the keys to an encrypted file (password or PGP). I keep a copy of that and a print out somewhere I consider being secure. Even with that file someone would still need my accounts email and password.

I think there should be a leaderboard for the contest, at least that's what I suggested.


It's still being developed but yes there will be.

Okay that explains a lot. I had in my mind that the alloted numbers are declared after the block is mined.
Thank for the clarification.
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Congrats to the competition and this is really big reward but I do not see that I can take any part of it because I do not wagered a lot like any big whale here. The rewards is really huge and this is the biggest prize ever that any site offer, congrats to your first competition again

Try and find a whale and persuade them to use your referral link.

Btw about rebranding your domain to crypteer.com are you saying your free bit are going to be deleted? Because people tend to join your site to get some free bit and if they are lucky enough they may get your lottery

The freebitco.in domain is registered until 2025 so it will just redirect to crypteer.com. (crypteer.com redirects to freebitco.in right now). All the old referral links will still work as well. the free rolls will still be there as well. We're just changing the name and adding new stuff.
legendary
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What do you mean about merging? Are you saying wetsuit is going to merge it with freebitco.in or creating a new site with new coin of course instead of staying with doge? And btw you just said about contest, what kind of contest is it like? Because I never heard about freebitco.in are doing contest, this must be the first time right?

Freebitco.in will be relaunched as crypteer.com later this year. We're adding more coins and an exchange function. After that at some point we will merge Doge in.

I'll make an announcement about the competition later today. (After I've had some breakfast.)

Congrats to the competition and this is really big reward but I do not see that I can take any part of it because I do not wagered a lot like any big whale here. The rewards is really huge and this is the biggest prize ever that any site offer, congrats to your first competition again

Btw about rebranding your domain to crypteer.com are you saying your free bit are going to be deleted? Because people tend to join your site to get some free bit and if they are lucky enough they may get your lottery
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
I think there should be a leaderboard for the contest, at least that's what I suggested.


It's still being developed but yes there will be.


Yes thanks TheQuin. I had assumed it was still being developed since there's still a while left until the start of the competition.

Maybe I'll get on there at some point...
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So even if they assort the userids in ascending order and give tickets accordingly, still they have scope left for increasing the number of tickets of their favoured userid to win the lottery.

The file lists the user IDs and the ticket numbers each one has. You can download a copy of it before the draw. So we don't have scope to change anything.


Just to clarify, would a signed deposit address still work in this case if the 2fa key was lost the sim to a phone number (so you don't have to wait the 7 or so days to get control of the number again).



I wouldn't trust printing out keys and storing them somewhere even if that place is locked. Although, if you stored the encrypted keys then it'd be a bit better -you can brute force it still without them being encrypted.


can we get a live chart for the contest and the amounts that people have wagered in total since the start of July (for when that comes) - not sure if this was already said.

I would set the default withdrawal address on the profile page to one that you can sign a message from. Given that then yes we would be able to disable 2FA if requested.

Backing up your 2FA keys is a personal choice. I use Winauth and that allows you to export the keys to an encrypted file (password or PGP). I keep a copy of that and a print out somewhere I consider being secure. Even with that file someone would still need my accounts email and password.

I think there should be a leaderboard for the contest, at least that's what I suggested.


It's still being developed but yes there will be.
legendary
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As no one knows the "Ticket Number" which was alooted to him, the game can be easily riggged.
I'm not sure but I think these "Ticket Number" will be published along with the future bitcoin block number
I will post back here when I found the references,
but probably TheQuin keeps the info handy and can give you links and more details on it

edit: found it, one page back
We publish on Twitter a file that contains the number of the block that the hash will provide the client seed. That file also includes the server seed and ticket list. That's everything you need to verify the result.
What I am saying is that the ticket list can be easily manupulated by alloting the winning ticket to such an account that is either held by freebitco.in itself or is inactive since long time(there are thousands of such accounts at regular intervals).

So even if they assort the userids in ascending order and give tickets accordingly, still they have scope left for increasing the number of tickets of their favoured userid to win the lottery.

Tickets are allotted before the bitcoin block is mined and this is timestamped on twitter. We cannot allot any tickets after the block is mined. We have explained all this in the provably fair box in the lottery page:

Quote
HOW IS THE SYSTEM FAIR?

The system described above that is used for picking the winners is provably fair because it has multiple safeguards in place to ensure that winners are picked randomly and fairly.

  • We provide a SHA256 hash of the server seed when a lottery round starts. If we change the server seed at any time, the SHA256 hash of the new seed will not match the hash we provided earlier. After a round has ended and we provide the server seed that will be used to pick winners, the hash of the seed we provide can be checked against the hash we provided originally and both should match.
  • We use a future bitcoin block hash as the "client seed" ie. a seed that we do not know of. All bitcoin block hashes are unique and nobody knows what the block hash of a future block will be until the block has been mined.
  • We use twitter to publish the future bitcoin block number, the list of users and their ticket numbers and the MD5 hash of the user list. It provides a timestamp to check if the block hash that we use is indeed in the future. Since tweets cannot be edited, only deleted - if we delete the tweet after the future block has been mined and publish a new one, it would be easy to catch us cheating by comparing the timestamp of the tweet and that of the bitcoin block. The timestamp of the tweet should always be lesser than the time timestamp of the bitcoin block whose hash is used as the client seed.
  • We provide a MD5 hash of the text file containing the list of users and their ticket numbers. If even a single character in the text file is changed after the MD5 hash in the tweet is published, the MD5 hash of the edited file will not match the MD5 hash provided in the tweet.
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As no one knows the "Ticket Number" which was alooted to him, the game can be easily riggged.
I'm not sure but I think these "Ticket Number" will be published along with the future bitcoin block number
I will post back here when I found the references,
but probably TheQuin keeps the info handy and can give you links and more details on it

edit: found it, one page back
We publish on Twitter a file that contains the number of the block that the hash will provide the client seed. That file also includes the server seed and ticket list. That's everything you need to verify the result.
What I am saying is that the ticket list can be easily manupulated by alloting the winning ticket to such an account that is either held by freebitco.in itself or is inactive since long time(there are thousands of such accounts at regular intervals).

So even if they assort the userids in ascending order and give tickets accordingly, still they have scope left for increasing the number of tickets of their favoured userid to win the lottery.
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As no one knows the "Ticket Number" which was alooted to him, the game can be easily riggged.
I'm not sure but I think these "Ticket Number" will be published along with the future bitcoin block number
I will post back here when I found the references,
but probably TheQuin keeps the info handy and can give you links and more details on it

edit: found it, one page back
We publish on Twitter a file that contains the number of the block that the hash will provide the client seed. That file also includes the server seed and ticket list. That's everything you need to verify the result.
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