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I see I got some interesting reading to do. Thanks for pointing that link out. But isn’t provably fair supposed to use an algorithm that “balances nature”?

No. Nature is in no way involved. In short, it uses encryption to hash 2 strings (seeds) into hexadecimal numbers. One on the server and one on the client. By telling us the hash of the server seed in advance and allowing to change our client seed we can prove that the number was truly random when the 2 numbers are combined.


I know you mentioned that it is all random but at times i ask my self arent odds still just percentages.  I remember 1 time i rolled 16,000 spins to get the bonus. I did not get it mot 1 single time. Now mathematically you would think i would get it atleast one time maybe two if really lucky.
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Freeroll prize is now 14 satoshi. Will you divide satoshis into parts if bitcoin price continue growing? You have to also calculate referral comissions to freerolls and interests...
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Nicehash hacked !
Am just concerned about the security features in place for sites like freebitco.in
Overnight, all your BTC will be gone !!!
https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2017-12-07/bitcoin-miner-nicehash-reports-hack-theft-of-its-wallet

You are obviously very new to the scene. This is just another in a long line of hacks although there are a lot less frequent now than they were before. You have to make a judgment about both how trustworthy and competent the site owners are. Wetsuit would be right at the top of my list for both.
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Nicehash hacked !
Am just concerned about the security features in place for sites like freebitco.in
Overnight, all your BTC will be gone !!!
https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2017-12-07/bitcoin-miner-nicehash-reports-hack-theft-of-its-wallet

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is there any official announcement for these recent bitcoin forks? I checked the previous 2 pages and I didn't see anyone talking about them.

these days it seems like there are going to be a lot of forks. at least 5 forks are scheduled for December starting with 15th of Dec! and it would be great if we  could get these coins for the balance that we keep on freebitco.in otherwise we would have to keep withdrawing before the snapshot is taken and deposit back.
and if I am not mistaken at least 1 snapshot was taken after bitcoin gold one. it was called "bitcoin Liza". all I know is that Yobit credited their users' accounts with the tokens which they are trading.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22888636
Freebitco.in will support/allow withdrawal of forks , if they have a working wallet and blockchain.

In that link Myfe talks about two past forks but not about the upcoming ones. I think it is very likely that they are going to follow the same policy but until I see Myfe saying it or an announcement on their website I won’t be 100% sure.

I hope this is the case, because their policy about forks has made it easier for customers to do whatever they want, exchange of withdraw, just after the fork, whereas in some other faucets and casinos they just don’t give you any coins, or they only give you the option to withdraw them, and even some exchanges don’t give you the option or they implement the exchange option later on.


Freebitco.in always has one simple policy in place, as and when a fork is confirmed it shall put a notice on it's  site, and if a fork is successfully completed, it shall credit you with a certain amount as and when it's confirmed there is a working wallet. Freebitco.in will never give out any money, unless there is a wallet for the fork and that is working well. Normally all the news are posted on their site, I think you may have missed it.
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is there any official announcement for these recent bitcoin forks? I checked the previous 2 pages and I didn't see anyone talking about them.

these days it seems like there are going to be a lot of forks. at least 5 forks are scheduled for December starting with 15th of Dec! and it would be great if we  could get these coins for the balance that we keep on freebitco.in otherwise we would have to keep withdrawing before the snapshot is taken and deposit back.
and if I am not mistaken at least 1 snapshot was taken after bitcoin gold one. it was called "bitcoin Liza". all I know is that Yobit credited their users' accounts with the tokens which they are trading.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22888636
Freebitco.in will support/allow withdrawal of forks , if they have a working wallet and blockchain.

In that link Myfe talks about two past forks but not about the upcoming ones. I think it is very likely that they are going to follow the same policy but until I see Myfe saying it or an announcement on their website I won’t be 100% sure.

I hope this is the case, because their policy about forks has made it easier for customers to do whatever they want, exchange of withdraw, just after the fork, whereas in some other faucets and casinos they just don’t give you any coins, or they only give you the option to withdraw them, and even some exchanges don’t give you the option or they implement the exchange option later on.
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is there any official announcement for these recent bitcoin forks? I checked the previous 2 pages and I didn't see anyone talking about them.

these days it seems like there are going to be a lot of forks. at least 5 forks are scheduled for December starting with 15th of Dec! and it would be great if we  could get these coins for the balance that we keep on freebitco.in otherwise we would have to keep withdrawing before the snapshot is taken and deposit back.
and if I am not mistaken at least 1 snapshot was taken after bitcoin gold one. it was called "bitcoin Liza". all I know is that Yobit credited their users' accounts with the tokens which they are trading.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22888636
Freebitco.in will support/allow withdrawal of forks , if they have a working wallet and blockchain.
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Their hard fork policy have been displayed for quite a while before segwitx2 planned fork. If the new blockchain is viable, they usually allow users to exchange new bitcoins for bitcoin core at a détermined rate, or to withdraw those new coins to another wallet.
That is supposing the new blockchain is viable. Will it be the case with the announced forks?
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is there any official announcement for these recent bitcoin forks? I checked the previous 2 pages and I didn't see anyone talking about them.

these days it seems like there are going to be a lot of forks. at least 5 forks are scheduled for December starting with 15th of Dec! and it would be great if we  could get these coins for the balance that we keep on freebitco.in otherwise we would have to keep withdrawing before the snapshot is taken and deposit back.
and if I am not mistaken at least 1 snapshot was taken after bitcoin gold one. it was called "bitcoin Liza". all I know is that Yobit credited their users' accounts with the tokens which they are trading.
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in an IT classes, a while back, (java or similar language) we played with a RAND(), and I remember learning that no RAND() is truly random

It is true that creating random numbers on computers has historically not been truly random. Generally, it is done from the system clock using the last x number of digits down to the millisecond. So if your program repeats at certain intervals it can make some numbers more likely to come out than others. By using encryption hashing we now have an easy to use method of creating truly random numbers.

and that it is possible for a random sequence to eventually repeat itself

Of course, random events can be repeated. It is just a question of what the probability of that event occurring is. Probably one of the most important things to realise when indulging in gambling on random events is that even the most unlikely event will happen eventually given a large enough sample size.
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I see I got some interesting reading to do. Thanks for pointing that link out. But isn’t provably fair supposed to use an algorithm that “balances nature”?

No. Nature is in no way involved. In short, it uses encryption to hash 2 strings (seeds) into hexadecimal numbers. One on the server and one on the client. By telling us the hash of the server seed in advance and allowing to change our client seed we can prove that the number was truly random when the 2 numbers are combined.

The reason I thought that it needs to balance in the end, was because I remember in an IT classes, a while back, (java or similar language) we played with a RAND(), and I remember learning that no RAND() is truly random and that it is possible for a random sequence to eventually repeat itself (wish I
paid more attention in class, but I simply never cared for randomness or gambling until encountering this website). Does this mean anything to anymore?
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I see I got some interesting reading to do. Thanks for pointing that link out. But isn’t provably fair supposed to use an algorithm that “balances nature”?

No. Nature is in no way involved. In short, it uses encryption to hash 2 strings (seeds) into hexadecimal numbers. One on the server and one on the client. By telling us the hash of the server seed in advance and allowing to change our client seed we can prove that the number was truly random when the 2 numbers are combined.
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Lol where do you see any math in the above quotes? I can probably School u in math any day. I just haven’t done any probability calculations in this thread (yet)

Mathematics isn't what you are missing, it is the very definition of words. The rolls come from an RNG (Random number Generator). Random implies the absence of patterns. You may think you see them but that is a quite normal behaviour in a human to find order where it doesn't exist. Go back up a bit to one of my previous posts and follow the link to Gambler's Fallacy and you can find out where you are going wrong.

I see I got some interesting reading to do. Thanks for pointing that link out. But isn’t provably fair supposed to use an algorithm that “balances nature”? The provably fair document is too long for me to read right now. I should be preparing for my final exams lol

EDIT: I guess I’ll come back to the provably fair thing and the fallacy after finals... I’ll stop trolling Grin
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Lol where do you see any math in the above quotes? I can probably School u in math any day. I just haven’t done any probability calculations in this thread (yet)

Mathematics isn't what you are missing, it is the very definition of words. The rolls come from an RNG (Random number Generator). Random implies the absence of patterns. You may think you see them but that is a quite normal behaviour in a human to find order where it doesn't exist. Go back up a bit to one of my previous posts and follow the link to Gambler's Fallacy and you can find out where you are going wrong.

 
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I'm still experimenting with my adapted Martingale.
All experiments with martingale ended the same way. Why do you think you are smarter than everyone else and ignoring facts?
One trick I recently started using to avoid dangerously long streaks is watching the rolled numbers and try to predict a pattern.
You can watch rolled numbers 20 years and you won't find any pattern, you know why? Because there isn't any.
Usually it;s not easy, but a few times, you could detect a recognizable pattern.
No, you can't!
Example: if you roll the following sequence of numbers:
13503
24679
39573
45012
You can bet almost safely that the next roll would be higher than 50000
Or lower than 5000.
Another example of a recognizable pattern is something like:
49321
51893
46061
54021
32023
You can bet almost safely that the next would be above 6000
Or under 6000.
Then again, the problem with these patterns is that you never know when they change and switch to another pattern or just another totally irrelevant random number  Roll Eyes
Which means it is random.
After 20 rolled high numbers chance to roll high number IS 50%(little less because HE), also chance to roll low number is the same - nearly 50%.
There is no pattern, there is no such thing as higher chance on next roll because previous roll was...
Your math sucks   Roll Eyes

Lol where do you see any math in the above quotes? I can probably School u in math any day. I just haven’t done any probability calculations in this thread (yet)

I was merely referring to the patterns as a concept. I don’t think each rolled number is independent. I think (or hope) in this particular provably fair game that all the rolls played should average to 50000. I haven’t read the randomization algorithm they are using so I guess I’m just speculating
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I'm still experimenting with my adapted Martingale.
All experiments with martingale ended the same way. Why do you think you are smarter than everyone else and ignoring facts?
One trick I recently started using to avoid dangerously long streaks is watching the rolled numbers and try to predict a pattern.
You can watch rolled numbers 20 years and you won't find any pattern, you know why? Because there isn't any.
Usually it;s not easy, but a few times, you could detect a recognizable pattern.
No, you can't!
Example: if you roll the following sequence of numbers:
13503
24679
39573
45012
You can bet almost safely that the next roll would be higher than 50000
Or lower than 5000.
Another example of a recognizable pattern is something like:
49321
51893
46061
54021
32023
You can bet almost safely that the next would be above 6000
Or under 6000.
Then again, the problem with these patterns is that you never know when they change and switch to another pattern or just another totally irrelevant random number  Roll Eyes
Which means it is random.
After 20 rolled high numbers chance to roll high number IS 50%(little less because HE), also chance to roll low number is the same - nearly 50%.
There is no pattern, there is no such thing as higher chance on next roll because previous roll was...
Your math sucks   Roll Eyes
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This alone is false. My balance is way less than 2x total free rolls:

All I can say is it works precisely for me. I have made withdrawals and deposits and the 2x multiple is precisely when captcha disappears.


OMG! Thanks for the quote, but could wetsuit have been anymore cryptic?  Tongue

I think you will find that was deliberate. Wetsuit also said he wanted to keep the precise formula secret so the bot abusers can't get around it so easily. If you succeed in your mission to work it out I hope you keep it yourself rather than helping them.
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I found some claim that you need to deposit an amount greater than or equal to the free rolls amount you have won so far. Other say that you don't actually need to deposit, as long as your balance is greater than or equal to double the free rolls amount you have accumulated. (you can see this info in Stats -> Personal Stats in your account.)

Is anyone aware of any official statement about this, or is everyone just speculating?

Yes, I asked about it when it changed a while back and Wetsuit the site owner replied telling us of the 2x free rolls total requirement. There is a certain amount of multiply BTC and/or Lottery tickets purchased needed as well, I'm not sure what exactly the requirement is but I haven't done either for quite a long time and I don't get a captcha.



The amount isn't the same for everyone. If your balance is equal to or greater than 2x of your total free play winnings, you do not need to solve a captcha.


Ahh, that's why it came back, you changed it from playing hi/lo game. Looks like I'm stuck with capture then as I've been playing for so long.



Also, wagering in the HI-LO game helps. I had to increase the balance requirements to 2x from 1x previously because botters had figured it out and could reach no-captcha without depositing. Now they will need to deposit to roll without captcha so it has reduced their activity.


OMG! Thanks for the quote, but could wetsuit have been anymore cryptic?  Tongue

The amount isn't the same for everyone. If your balance is equal to or greater than 2x of your total free play winnings, you do not need to solve a captcha.
This alone is false. My balance is way less than 2x total free rolls:



Also, wagering in the HI-LO game helps.
This complicates things substantially. Now we have to somehow incorporate the number Multiply BTC rolls played M in a formula related to B >= 2F

Currently my M = 28,021 lol any ideas what this value should or could be in relation to B >= 2F to keep avoiding captchas ?

Can everyone share their following data to help me find a new formula, plz:
Code:
Do you have Captcha: Y/N
Multiply BTC rolls played M =
Total deposits D =
Free Roll Winnings F =
Referral Commissions earned C =

Thanks.
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LOTTERY ROUND 131
This round, the winner with the lowest number of tickets is #3 with 126 tickets.
#1 won with 777,690 tickets.
The week that I deposited 1.3 BTC and lost all, I had ended up with 860,000+ tickets and didn't win jack  Cry
It said I had 28+% chance of winning, on my lottery page, but guess what? Didn't win any of the 10 prizes. How unlucky can someone be???
Never waste any BTC or reward points on lottery tickets. Its so unpredictable, and chance of winning is ... idk... weird
I was so disappointed that I lost almost $13K, that I wanted to believe that I was gonna win some back with the lottery, especially seince I had more than 28% of all the lottery tickets in the world! I didn't...

BTW, congratulations to me!!! I finally just became a Full Member  Grin

In a lottery, only 10 people are going to win and I think site need to remove that % of winning feature because it is not applicable. Even though if you purchase 90% of tickets but not sure whether you can win a lottery. It does not depend on how many tickets you got but it depends on your luck in the lottery.

You shouldn't have spent so much money but it is learning for you and should avoid these big mistakes in future.

I don’t think the site has to remove that at all, as it is applicable indeed.

Luck depends also on how many tickets. I you have 90% of the tickets you need way less luck to win the lottery than if you have just 0.0001% of them.

Anyway, buying so many lottery tickets is pretty crazy. Site owner must be very happy with customers like him.

(Post-edit: I’ve realized that he probably didn’t buy the tickets, but got them due to gambling so much, which is pretty crazy anyway)


Exactly that. I had gambled so much that I ended up with over 28% of the lottery tickets lol
Another interesting fact was that right after losing all, the free roll amounts went up also for about 3 days before they’d started going down again (due toBTC price rise). So you’re welcome  Tongue
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Here we can see again a typical mistake repeated in so many threads on the gambling section. You are not betting on a 5-bet sequence to have at least one result higher than 5000. 4 results have already appeared, so next bet having an outcome higher than 5000 is still 50%.

It's not just here, Gambler's Fallacy is as old as gambling itself and I'm pretty sure no amount of logic will ever completely eradicate it.  Shocked


How can it does not work? As long as you have enough bankroll to cover I think this will be okay.

The problem is that the maximum possible losing streak is infinity so you would need an infinite bankroll. Also, you will run into the house maximum bet limit before you get there.

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