French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) - page 1173.

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Quote from: arimamib on October 28, 2022, 09:41:27 AM

PSG has tied Mbappe to a super luxurious salary and a very high buy out clause, it is impossible for a club to be able to redeem Mbappe buy out clause and also pay his very high salary. PSG saw prospects in Mbappe and extended his contract at least until 2025, PSG has a long term project by spending a lot of money to extend Mbappe contract. Even though Messi and Neymar are already in the squad, only Mbappe is prioritized for their long term project.

Now that Mbappe is PSG biggest asset, he is still very young, he is expected to become a club icon because of his prowess in front of goal. Although PSG still have other stars like Neymar or Messi, for now (besides Haaland) it is very difficult to find a replacement for Mbappe who has the same quality as Mbappe. It's only natural that PSG give Mbappe the luxury because he is still very young and PSG still need him to achieve the goal that has never been won, namely the UCL trophy.

PSG not have to worried about Mbappe's future because he has contract until 2025 and seems impossible have any team want to pay most expensive transfer values if want to sign in Mbappe. Just have bad rumor with PSG still not reach agreement with Lionel Messi were his contract over at June 2023 and if not reach agreement at January transfer, Messi will be free transfer player.

Messi have announced about he not talk about his contract extended or not with PSG until World Cup in Qatar and seems have chance for PSG if give excited offering for Lionel Messi keep staying or another team will give more higher salary and contract duration for Lionel Messi than with PSG.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on October 27, 2022, 10:40:33 AM

...Snip.. Mbappe still have contract until 2025 and I don't think any crazy team want to sign in him because need to pay most expensive transfer values and have to pay higher salary received than with PSG. I think keep secure with Mbappe without leaving PSG but I doubt with Lionel Messi want extended contract with PSG or return to Barcelona.

PSG has tied Mbappe to a super luxurious salary and a very high buy out clause, it is impossible for a club to be able to redeem Mbappe buy out clause and also pay his very high salary. PSG saw prospects in Mbappe and extended his contract at least until 2025, PSG has a long term project by spending a lot of money to extend Mbappe contract. Even though Messi and Neymar are already in the squad, only Mbappe is prioritized for their long term project.

Now that Mbappe is PSG biggest asset, he is still very young, he is expected to become a club icon because of his prowess in front of goal. Although PSG still have other stars like Neymar or Messi, for now (besides Haaland) it is very difficult to find a replacement for Mbappe who has the same quality as Mbappe. It's only natural that PSG give Mbappe the luxury because he is still very young and PSG still need him to achieve the goal that has never been won, namely the UCL trophy.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on October 28, 2022, 07:21:37 AM

I believe that the hosts are the clear favorite in today's match between Lens and Toulouse. Lens is currently only behind PSG in the standings and so far they are flawless at home matches, having won all 6 matches. In turn, the balance of Toulouse away matches is 1 victory, 1 draw and 3 defeats. I believe that today they will not improve this achievement and Lens will take another 3 points for the victory.

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The first game of the 13th round will be played today between lens and toulouse, lens team is in the second position with five points away from psg, they are on a positive streak, they won eight game from the last twelve they played and only lost one, they have the second best defense and a decent attack it seems that this will be another good year for them, i think they can get one of the top four spots especially if they defeat toulouse today even thought it won't be easy but i expect them to win today.

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While there is some conversation about Messi's future at PSG I'd also like to add some information about it.

It is claimed that PSG have already offered a one-year extension to Messi. They want to act quick and do their best to keep Messi in the team. Because since he adapted to PSG's system he has been one of the biggest contributors of the team with not only goals but also assists. PSG don't want to see the trio disbanding by the end of this season. They are already worried about Mbappe's future at the team. If Mbappe and Messi both leaves I assume Neymar also wouldn't like to stay anymore. This would change the destiny of the team completely for certain. Grin

Not any agreement clause with Lionel Messi contract first time arrived at PSG with one year extended after his contract ended, seems still have potential for Lionel Messi leave PSG after his contract ended at June 2023, depending later with new agreement reach both site maybe before January window transfer opening, actually give one years contract extended for Lionel Messi is not worth offering because Messi has quite performance with PSG. Realistic need to give 2 years contract extended for Lionel Messi if want keep stay with PSG.

Mbappe still have contract until 2025 and I don't think any crazy team want to sign in him because need to pay most expensive transfer values and have to pay higher salary received than with PSG. I think keep secure with Mbappe without leaving PSG but I doubt with Lionel Messi want extended contract with PSG or return to Barcelona.

Mbappe is a very important player for PSG. Hopefully he won't go anywhere before 2025. Meanwhile, I see no possibility of Messi going to Barcelona. Barcelona's current financial situation is not good, they are almost out of the Champions League. Messi may not return to Barcelona even if they want to add him to the team.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on October 28, 2022, 07:21:37 AM

I believe that the hosts are the clear favorite in today's match between Lens and Toulouse. Lens is currently only behind PSG in the standings and so far they are flawless at home matches, having won all 6 matches. In turn, the balance of Toulouse away matches is 1 victory, 1 draw and 3 defeats. I believe that today they will not improve this achievement and Lens will take another 3 points for the victory.

Toulouse are not a stable team of late, they always get into trouble when they play. And it's fair to say that Lens are the favorites in this game, they have a positive trend better than Toulouse of course. But still they had to be wary of Toulouse and not underestimate their guest. Because if they underestimate it is not impossible they will lose points. They also need to be able to win to get their points from Paris Saint Germain.

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I believe that the hosts are the clear favorite in today's match between Lens and Toulouse. Lens is currently only behind PSG in the standings and so far they are flawless at home matches, having won all 6 matches. In turn, the balance of Toulouse away matches is 1 victory, 1 draw and 3 defeats. I believe that today they will not improve this achievement and Lens will take another 3 points for the victory.

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So far Lionel Messi is still reluctant to answer how his fate at Paris Saint Germain, stay or leave. It seems he wants to focus first on defending his country in the World Cup. I haven't heard where he would have joined had he not decided to extend his contract with Paris Saint Germain and it is very possible he would return to the team he came from and also make his name big, Barcelona. But it looks like Paris Saint Germain will try everything they can to keep Lionel Messi with them.

@Furious 7, It seems to me that Messi is not interested in having such a small competition. His competitive nature makes him a very effective player. It does not matter how old he is, he is still a competitive person, even if he is already almost 34 years old.

You know, he barely has any competitions at PSG. In addition, things have gotten very toxic at PSG, especially since Mbappe has been given so much power by the club. I don't think he liked that at all. The fact that he doesn't want to stay at PSG makes perfect sense if that is the case.

In spite of this, as you said, money has the power to change everything. In addition, I would like to point out that Neymar is one of his most reliable close friends. Probably he might tell Messi to stay at PSG as well. I think at this age PSG is appropriate for Messi.

Most likely, Messi will leave PSG after his contract expires in 2023. even if there is encouragement from his team-mate, Neymar, to extend his contract with PSG.

some of the points you said, are the reasons he is reluctant to continue his contract with PSG. especially the little boss "Mbappe" who has privileges over other players. when it comes to salary, I'm sure Messi doesn't care too much about it, although it's fantastic. he, had everything. however, what he wants is the comfort of playing with the team and winning as many trophies as possible at the end of his career.

Neymar has a new long-term contract with PSG, as well as Mbappe.
but the loss of Messi could be a problem for PSG, not in Ligue 1, after all they are too strong in the francis league. but for the Champions League, it is clearly a problem for Galtier's team. and because of that, SPG are looking for options to replace Messi later.

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First match on week 13 between Lens vs Toulouse and if we looking at to the recent performance from both of teams indeed Lens is quite better but Toulouse also not categorized weak team because the performance of Toulouse is quite impressive lately even they were can able to unbeatable 4 times in a row so this showed Toulouse is strong opponent for Lens and not impossible to Toulouse can steal points from Lens but indeed home team is the favourite in this match because this season Lens home matches records is quite amazing because they can able to gets 6 wins from 6 matches which mean Lens have 100% winning rates if play at their home and my prediction probably Lens will continue their positive records and win but probably with slim score

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In the opening match of the week, a good match awaits us. Lens, who have had a good season, will host Toulouse at home. Toulouse have played very well in the last 4 matches and got good results. They scored 10 goals and conceded 7 in the last 4 games. Lens, on the other hand, is trying to beat their opponents with a calm game compared to the beginning of the season. I think both teams will score goals.

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Quote from: nara1892 on October 27, 2022, 04:52:16 PM

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Messi this season is much better than last season, but still PSG have such ambitions that they need not just good players in every position, but the best of the best. Plus, if you think about the prospects and take into account Messi's big salary, I think that PSG will find better options. If we talk about marketing noise and brand promotion, then the new generation has already taken over the media space. I think everyone sees that now all the hype is going on around new stars - Haaland and Mbappe, and the first one is still being discussed only in terms of professional qualities, and the second has already managed to get into various scandals and become famous even outside of football.

On the other hand I also read that Messi is not really interested in extending his contract here so indeed this could be a dramatic reversal but of course with the power of money everything might change.
His performance this season is much better than his first season, but this doesn't help anything because it seems that this goat is not really interested in a new contract, although I think this is a good move for him if he continues to stay in Ligue 1.

So far Lionel Messi is still reluctant to answer how his fate at Paris Saint Germain, stay or leave. It seems he wants to focus first on defending his country in the World Cup. I haven't heard where he would have joined had he not decided to extend his contract with Paris Saint Germain and it is very possible he would return to the team he came from and also make his name big, Barcelona. But it looks like Paris Saint Germain will try everything they can to keep Lionel Messi with them.

@Furious 7, It seems to me that Messi is not interested in having such a small competition. His competitive nature makes him a very effective player. It does not matter how old he is, he is still a competitive person, even if he is already almost 34 years old.

You know, he barely has any competitions at PSG. In addition, things have gotten very toxic at PSG, especially since Mbappe has been given so much power by the club. I don't think he liked that at all. The fact that he doesn't want to stay at PSG makes perfect sense if that is the case.

In spite of this, as you said, money has the power to change everything. In addition, I would like to point out that Neymar is one of his most reliable close friends. Probably he might tell Messi to stay at PSG as well. I think at this age PSG is appropriate for Messi.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on October 27, 2022, 04:26:22 PM

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On the other hand I also read that Messi is not really interested in extending his contract here so indeed this could be a dramatic reversal but of course with the power of money everything might change.
His performance this season is much better than his first season, but this doesn't help anything because it seems that this goat is not really interested in a new contract, although I think this is a good move for him if he continues to stay in Ligue 1.

I also think both Messi and PSG will benefit from Messi being in Ligue 1. Because PSG's performance this season is more stable and strong than last season. If Messi leaves the team, PSG's performance will become unstable again. So PSG will probably try their best to keep Messi in the team. Rumor has it that Messi is not interested in renewing his contract. However, I have yet to see any credible news regarding which team Messi will join if he leaves PSG. But personally I think Messi will decide to stay at PSG.

It will have to wait a little longer but as for profit issues for both parties I agree with what you are saying.
Until now there has been no further news apart from several media reports that Messi rejected PSG's new offer.
We will have to wait whether Messi will let go of Ideal conditions at PSG now or if he will leave with something that is not certain because if he refuses to extend and return to Barcelona (for example) I am actually still very optimistic about their financial condition.

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Quote from: arimamib on October 27, 2022, 10:47:37 AM

I'm not comparing Ligue 1 to the Champions League. At the point you quoted, I hope PSG can show their best performance in the Champions League as shown in Ligue 1. PSG have long wanted the UCL trophy, they can achieve it if they always appear consistent against tough teams like Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid.

In Ligue 1 there are not many strong teams in every season that PSG have to face, so PSG looks a little easier to lead the Ligue 1 championship this season. For the Champions League it is a slightly different matter because Benfica who are also in the same group with PSG have the same number of points after five games in the group. And both have also qualified for the last 16 at this time, and for the last match in the Champions League group stage PSG and Benfica also have the potential to win because they both face weak teams this season, namely Juventus and Maccabi Haifa.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on October 27, 2022, 04:19:53 PM

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Messi this season is much better than last season, but still PSG have such ambitions that they need not just good players in every position, but the best of the best. Plus, if you think about the prospects and take into account Messi's big salary, I think that PSG will find better options. If we talk about marketing noise and brand promotion, then the new generation has already taken over the media space. I think everyone sees that now all the hype is going on around new stars - Haaland and Mbappe, and the first one is still being discussed only in terms of professional qualities, and the second has already managed to get into various scandals and become famous even outside of football.

On the other hand I also read that Messi is not really interested in extending his contract here so indeed this could be a dramatic reversal but of course with the power of money everything might change.
His performance this season is much better than his first season, but this doesn't help anything because it seems that this goat is not really interested in a new contract, although I think this is a good move for him if he continues to stay in Ligue 1.

So far Lionel Messi is still reluctant to answer how his fate at Paris Saint Germain, stay or leave. It seems he wants to focus first on defending his country in the World Cup. I haven't heard where he would have joined had he not decided to extend his contract with Paris Saint Germain and it is very possible he would return to the team he came from and also make his name big, Barcelona. But it looks like Paris Saint Germain will try everything they can to keep Lionel Messi with them.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on October 27, 2022, 04:19:53 PM

Quote from: Boristhecat on October 27, 2022, 01:02:39 PM

Messi this season is much better than last season, but still PSG have such ambitions that they need not just good players in every position, but the best of the best. Plus, if you think about the prospects and take into account Messi's big salary, I think that PSG will find better options. If we talk about marketing noise and brand promotion, then the new generation has already taken over the media space. I think everyone sees that now all the hype is going on around new stars - Haaland and Mbappe, and the first one is still being discussed only in terms of professional qualities, and the second has already managed to get into various scandals and become famous even outside of football.

On the other hand I also read that Messi is not really interested in extending his contract here so indeed this could be a dramatic reversal but of course with the power of money everything might change.
His performance this season is much better than his first season, but this doesn't help anything because it seems that this goat is not really interested in a new contract, although I think this is a good move for him if he continues to stay in Ligue 1.

I also think both Messi and PSG will benefit from Messi being in Ligue 1. Because PSG's performance this season is more stable and strong than last season. If Messi leaves the team, PSG's performance will become unstable again. So PSG will probably try their best to keep Messi in the team. Rumor has it that Messi is not interested in renewing his contract. However, I have yet to see any credible news regarding which team Messi will join if he leaves PSG. But personally I think Messi will decide to stay at PSG.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on October 27, 2022, 01:02:39 PM

Messi this season is much better than last season, but still PSG have such ambitions that they need not just good players in every position, but the best of the best. Plus, if you think about the prospects and take into account Messi's big salary, I think that PSG will find better options. If we talk about marketing noise and brand promotion, then the new generation has already taken over the media space. I think everyone sees that now all the hype is going on around new stars - Haaland and Mbappe, and the first one is still being discussed only in terms of professional qualities, and the second has already managed to get into various scandals and become famous even outside of football.

On the other hand I also read that Messi is not really interested in extending his contract here so indeed this could be a dramatic reversal but of course with the power of money everything might change.
His performance this season is much better than his first season, but this doesn't help anything because it seems that this goat is not really interested in a new contract, although I think this is a good move for him if he continues to stay in Ligue 1.

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Quote from: Falconer on October 27, 2022, 11:38:07 AM

When all the players support each other and put the goals of the team forward, then I think the result will be very good. I don't want to talk about how PSG were last season, but I think the players have improved a lot this season while Galtier was in charge.

Statistically, Messi and Neymar this season have improved. Mbappe who became the main striker also contributed to some of Messi and Neymar's goals and vice versa. If the cooperation of these three players continues to increase then maybe PSG will easily win the match. Without ego, PSG players would be good to rely on.

Looking at the results they have this year, it’s hard to say that they are not doing that already. They are winning games, and the big three passes to each other very well and scores very well. Not like they are keeping it from each other, they are actually assisting each other a lot, Messi understood the assignment so well that he doesn't look to shoot but to first looks at passing, and shoots if he sees it fit.

That’s why I feel like all these drama are made up, I always believed that it was made up, sure maybe Mbappe is a bit more childish than the other two because of his age and still being at least as good as them, but that doesn't mean they will be separated right away because of it.

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PSG had a strong squad. Almost all the talented and star players in the squad. However, PSG's performance last season was very poor. The main weakness of the team was that the bonding between their players was very weak and their match strategy was not good. But Galtier has been able to strengthen the bond between the team's players. The understanding between the team players is now much better than before. At the same time, Galtier is working very well to resolve the conflicts between the team players with Mbappe. Mbappe's behavior is changing. He no longer behaves arrogantly and selfishly. PSG's performances have been more consistent in the last few matches.

When all the players support each other and put the goals of the team forward, then I think the result will be very good. I don't want to talk about how PSG were last season, but I think the players have improved a lot this season while Galtier was in charge.

Statistically, Messi and Neymar this season have improved. Mbappe who became the main striker also contributed to some of Messi and Neymar's goals and vice versa. If the cooperation of these three players continues to increase then maybe PSG will easily win the match. Without ego, PSG players would be good to rely on.

But things like this seem to be very difficult for PSG to do because from the start they have been faced with several internal problems that refer to Mbappe and Neymar even though now it's just like exaggerated news.

It would be a different story if they now start to correct mistakes by playing a more solid team so that we who are just spectators will prefer to see the good things and believe that they are able to speak more especially in the Champions League.

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The main reason why Messi can leave PSG is age - his influence is already being felt and even though in Ligue 1 PSG can afford to play not at the maximum/have the optimal composition, in the Champions League it is already too dangerous. The second reason is the salary - Messi receives 41 million a year and this is a significant part of PSG's salary fund. Maybe if Argentina does well in the World Cup, Messi leaves PSG for MLS at the end of the season and thus "leaves at the top" from European football.

Messi had a first season in PSG very bad but in this season, the second season there, he has started to show his importance. We saw that in matches without Messi, PSG had issues to create opportunities and find goals. With Messi, their attacking system works more smoothly and more unpredictable for opponents. Messi scored more goals in this season but his bigger contribution is from key passes and assists to other players.

I feel that Messi does not want to return to Barcelona after all of bad drama he received years ago and after the recent drama against Pique as well as Busquet. Therefore, if PSG want to resign a new contract with Messi, I believe he will be ready to sign it. I also believe that it would very likely to happen as it will be good for both Messi and PSG. They can resign a new contract which last 2 more years.

Also important, Messi will retire from his national team after the World Cup so that he will fully focus on his club for last years of his career.

Messi this season is much better than last season, but still PSG have such ambitions that they need not just good players in every position, but the best of the best. Plus, if you think about the prospects and take into account Messi's big salary, I think that PSG will find better options. If we talk about marketing noise and brand promotion, then the new generation has already taken over the media space. I think everyone sees that now all the hype is going on around new stars - Haaland and Mbappe, and the first one is still being discussed only in terms of professional qualities, and the second has already managed to get into various scandals and become famous even outside of football.

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Quote from: kro55 on October 27, 2022, 11:09:02 AM

PSG had a strong squad. Almost all the talented and star players in the squad. However, PSG's performance last season was very poor. The main weakness of the team was that the bonding between their players was very weak and their match strategy was not good. But Galtier has been able to strengthen the bond between the team's players. The understanding between the team players is now much better than before. At the same time, Galtier is working very well to resolve the conflicts between the team players with Mbappe. Mbappe's behavior is changing. He no longer behaves arrogantly and selfishly. PSG's performances have been more consistent in the last few matches.

When all the players support each other and put the goals of the team forward, then I think the result will be very good. I don't want to talk about how PSG were last season, but I think the players have improved a lot this season while Galtier was in charge.

Statistically, Messi and Neymar this season have improved. Mbappe who became the main striker also contributed to some of Messi and Neymar's goals and vice versa. If the cooperation of these three players continues to increase then maybe PSG will easily win the match. Without ego, PSG players would be good to rely on.

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