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Quote from: Warkop on November 16, 2022, 02:24:49 AM

To be honest, I'm not that interested in the French league (Ligue 1) because what we know is that PSG will always be a club that has been confirmed as a champion in the League (Ligue 1), even though several clubs (Ligue 1) have the ability to surpass PSG but when PSG bring in several of his star players last year, it made it difficult for all clubs to face PSG, because since Sergio Ramos, Gianluigi Donnarumma, Achraf Hakimi and Lionel Messi, were brought in by PSG to make the defense even stronger and sharper for PSG's attackers and defense, this is what creates a silhouette for all Clubs (Ligue 1) to balance PSG's game, only outside clubs can balance PSG's pattern of play, because of the several matches that brought PSG together with Bayern Munich in the last 16 of the Champions League, in my opinion this is a comparable opponent for PSG to face rather than the team team (Ligue 1), not intending to belittle the club (Ligue 1), but seeing the reality in the current standings, it is proof, this imbalance in (Ligue 1)..

You could have 2 different reasons why you could be interested in ligue 1 and watch the games there. First of all we all know that PSG will be the one that will win it, that’s true, but you do not know who would be the second or third, so you could watch to see who will be the "best or the rest" type of deal and that could be understandable.

Secondly you could watch because PSG sometimes loses, it's rare but it could happen and at that point you could just watch to see which games those losses would be and you could hope that you could wager at the smart time and hope that you could hit the losses on the head and make a lot of money from PSG losses, rare but profitable.

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Quote from: Xxmodded on November 16, 2022, 10:40:46 AM

Bayern have quite performance than PSG at champion league in this season, Bayern won 6 matches and PSG only won 4 match and 2 draw have settled at 2nd position and meet with Bayern on 16 round,

It would be very interesting if this season PSG managed to bring Bayern Munich back to the Bundesliga. I don't believe PSG will be so weak compared to Bayern Munich this season even though Bayern Munich has actually proven its worth in the group stage. I think PSG's defense is well prepared to thwart Bayern Munich this season and Mbappe will destroy the arrogance of those who underestimate them so easily.

It's clear to me that no one really knows who will qualify from the last 16, and both teams currently have a chance to beat their opponents. I'm support PSG to qualify because I don't really know why Bayern Munich deserve favorites over PSG.

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Quote from: nara1892 on November 16, 2022, 11:25:56 AM

Quote from: herurist on November 16, 2022, 11:09:28 AM

The victory in the group phase actually doesn't really matter in my opinion, regardless of whether they manage to win overall or fail in several matches in the group phase, it doesn't matter too much because the match is determined whether they are capable or not.
If indeed things like victory were used as a benchmark in the group phase maybe last season Madrid would not have won.
They are both big clubs and now it depends on how the coach plans and I'm looking forward to this match especially I've only seen them play once in 2018 and that's been too long considering the current squad is completely different.

But that can be one of the factors for us to analyze and predict their next match. Because the results of their matches will not be separated from their own game which causes them to win or lose in one game. And I think most of us will use that as our basis for predicting whether or not they deserve to be able to win and qualify for the group phase or round of the last 16. Indeed, that doesn't guarantee that it will actually happen, because the outcome of the match will be determined by their game at that time, but that could be an illustration of whether or not they can play well, reflecting on the previous match.

Even though in this match PSG are in 2nd place but we also know in terms of points and number of goals with Benfica they are still balanced, it's just that the quality of Benfica's goals is more that makes them in first place.
The problem for PSG may still be in the defense because they are a bit disturbed in the Champions League there even though their attack line has.
The statistics look at the clear win rate Bayern are superior to but when looking at it in terms of sporadic and fast attacks I personally prefer to see PSG with the record that they are not too selfish for the attackers.

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Quote from: AakZaki on November 16, 2022, 12:08:36 PM

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When talking about Messi, so far he is doing good than Ronaldo, and I hope they got in what his dream is on the National team. But, sometimes Messi looks childish, and sometimes that trait is still attached on the field which makes all squad will follow him. This is the last event for him, all fans hope Messi brings the cup to the Argentine, that only one he can't get from all achievements on football.

So far Messi has chosen the right club. The PSG coach really understands their character. So they are able to take advantage of Messi at an old age. Even Messi is now the choice of PSG coach along with Neymar and Mbappe. Besides that, the players seemed to welcome Messi with pleasure. But I heard that Man United are ready to offer Mbappe to replace Ronaldo, who is ready to leave this winter. If he left, of course it would be very detrimental.

Messi is old enough. Yet Galtier still likes Messi. And he helped to adapt to the team and strategy. And so Messi continues to perform consistently well. He is playing very well. And right now the most valuable player in Ligue 1 is Messi. On the other hand, Ronaldo's relationship with Ten Hag is not good. He does not allow an experienced player like Ronaldo in his squad. Now an experienced coach should never do this. Ten Hag should use Ronaldo's experience to improve their overall performance. But Ten Hag is stubborn, so he doesn't want to keep Ronaldo with the squad.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 16, 2022, 09:13:52 AM

Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

PSG is strong but is Bayern Munich - their opponent - weak or weaker than PSG?

At this time, Munich's strength is better a little bit. I guess Munich can win by 2-0 if they face PSG. The experience of Munich players is more if they compete in the UCL.
Indeed PSG continue to try to break the UCL's string of poor results. Since the arrival of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi they have always failed to win. In 2020 they made it to Final but lost to Munich. It seems like they've always been unlucky at UCL.

Even when Bayer Munich struggled in their league, they were strong in the UCL and never dropped a match until they advanced through the group stage. The two teams currently have gaps, and I believe that these gaps are what maybe they will use to find victory, just like Munich. Of course they will try to carry out attacks effectively considering that PSG defense is not powerful enough, but Bayern Munich should still be wary of PSG attack line which is quite complex by relying on the trio of Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar. So, I believe PSG will be able to defeat Munich with a lot of goals.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 15, 2022, 09:36:46 PM

When talking about Messi, so far he is doing good than Ronaldo, and I hope they got in what his dream is on the National team. But, sometimes Messi looks childish, and sometimes that trait is still attached on the field which makes all squad will follow him. This is the last event for him, all fans hope Messi brings the cup to the Argentine, that only one he can't get from all achievements on football.

So far Messi has chosen the right club. The PSG coach really understands their character. So they are able to take advantage of Messi at an old age. Even Messi is now the choice of PSG coach along with Neymar and Mbappe. Besides that, the players seemed to welcome Messi with pleasure. But I heard that Man United are ready to offer Mbappe to replace Ronaldo, who is ready to leave this winter. If he left, of course it would be very detrimental.

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Quote from: fachant on November 16, 2022, 09:41:40 AM

I don't know which team will win, but PSG's attack is a hundred times better than Bayern Munich's attack. Messi and Neymar and Mbappe no one can imagine what kind of attacking they can do. However, PSG have some defensive problems that make it very difficult to win matches. But hopefully we will enjoy the match.

The number of star players in a team also does not guarantee that the team can win easily when facing a strong team like Bayern Munich, because Bayern Munich's counterattack is also better in every game they have ever played. And when there are two big teams competing in a competition, the first thing that must be seen is the cooperation and cohesiveness of the players to give the best performance in order to win the match.

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Quote from: herurist on November 16, 2022, 11:09:28 AM

The victory in the group phase actually doesn't really matter in my opinion, regardless of whether they manage to win overall or fail in several matches in the group phase, it doesn't matter too much because the match is determined whether they are capable or not.
If indeed things like victory were used as a benchmark in the group phase maybe last season Madrid would not have won.
They are both big clubs and now it depends on how the coach plans and I'm looking forward to this match especially I've only seen them play once in 2018 and that's been too long considering the current squad is completely different.

But that can be one of the factors for us to analyze and predict their next match. Because the results of their matches will not be separated from their own game which causes them to win or lose in one game. And I think most of us will use that as our basis for predicting whether or not they deserve to be able to win and qualify for the group phase or round of the last 16. Indeed, that doesn't guarantee that it will actually happen, because the outcome of the match will be determined by their game at that time, but that could be an illustration of whether or not they can play well, reflecting on the previous match.

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Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

Bayern is weaker than a few seasons ago when they won Champions League but they are at same level of PSG. I can not pick what team will win after two matches. Maybe I don't make any prediction here, just wait for their matches and enjoy.

Bayern have quite performance than PSG at champion league in this season, Bayern won 6 matches and PSG only won 4 match and 2 draw have settled at 2nd position and meet with Bayern on 16 round, will get different opponent for next round if PSG can beaten Benfica and lead standing position.

The victory in the group phase actually doesn't really matter in my opinion, regardless of whether they manage to win overall or fail in several matches in the group phase, it doesn't matter too much because the match is determined whether they are capable or not.
If indeed things like victory were used as a benchmark in the group phase maybe last season Madrid would not have won.
They are both big clubs and now it depends on how the coach plans and I'm looking forward to this match especially I've only seen them play once in 2018 and that's been too long considering the current squad is completely different.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 16, 2022, 08:28:04 AM

Quote from: rozak on November 15, 2022, 02:59:31 AM

there are no problems for PSG this season. they continue to win big and keep on top of the standings. PSG's focus I think is no longer on Ligue 1. they always dream of the Champions League trophy. and they will not let go of the opportunity.
Lens is not a threat to PSG. they have good points, but if PSG always wins consistently. Lens will not stand a chance.

It will be interesting to see how PSG play after (hopefully) they are sent home from the Champions League by Bayern. For many PSG players (Mbappe, for example), this will be a severe psychological blow and, in fact, the end of the season. The paradox is that there will be many games ahead in Ligue 1 and maybe PSG will perform much worse in this scenario. It is hard to believe that any of the opponents will be able to take advantage of this opportunity, but in theory why not.

Yes, there really isn't a problem, but I think it's interesting when you say with confidence that PSG will be sent home by Bayern Munich. But indeed, PSG's not-so-perfect performance in the group stage in the Champions League is a job that Christophe Galtier has not been able to overcome.
But for Bayern Munich, they got the perfect result and in fact, the two teams in the Bayern Munich group are two big teams. At least, on paper to get results without losing and drawing, is a difficult job but Bayern Munich managed to get it.

With these results, at least PSG doesn't have many chances to qualify, but if PSG have found comfort at the top of the standings in Ligue 1.
So, maybe PSG will be able to focus more on being able to play even better in the Champions League, because to get the expected achievements will not be easy and they must be able to make more efforts than usual.

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Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

Compare to himself first, he actually has better performance than what he did in the past season. Compares to Ronaldo, Messi have better appearances and better performance than Ronaldo. It lasts from clubs to national teams for two players. This season is totally disappointed for Ronaldo but he still has World Cup to fight.

Lionel Messi have better perform in this season than Cristiano Ronaldo due with his competitor faced difficult to get regular position with Manchester United. But performance at World Cup seems different and both of them still have the same chance to show who will bet the best actually between Ronaldo and Lionel Messi never won World Cup after participating several time.

Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

Bayern is weaker than a few seasons ago when they won Champions League but they are at same level of PSG. I can not pick what team will win after two matches. Maybe I don't make any prediction here, just wait for their matches and enjoy.

Bayern have quite performance than PSG at champion league in this season, Bayern won 6 matches and PSG only won 4 match and 2 draw have settled at 2nd position and meet with Bayern on 16 round, will get different opponent for next round if PSG can beaten Benfica and lead standing position.

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Quote from: fachant on November 16, 2022, 09:41:40 AM

Quote from: Luzin on November 16, 2022, 09:13:52 AM

Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

PSG is strong but is Bayern Munich - their opponent - weak or weaker than PSG?

At this time, Munich's strength is better a little bit. I guess Munich can win by 2-0 if they face PSG. The experience of Munich players is more if they compete in the UCL.
Indeed PSG continue to try to break the UCL's string of poor results. Since the arrival of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi they have always failed to win. In 2020 they made it to Final but lost to Munich. It seems like they've always been unlucky at UCL.

I don't know which team will win, but PSG's attack is a hundred times better than Bayern Munich's attack. Messi and Neymar and Mbappe no one can imagine what kind of attacking they can do. However, PSG have some defensive problems that make it very difficult to win matches. But hopefully we will enjoy the match.

in terms of attack, of course PSG can be said to be quite dangerous, but Bayern Munich does have a solid defense but still their should be wary of PSG attack line which is quite complex by relying on the trio of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar, the two teams so far have gaps and I think this gap is what maybe they will use it to find victory, just like Munich, of course they will try to carry out attacks effectively considering that PSG defense is not strong enough, so I think to make up for this shortcoming PSG should be able to score lots of goals against Munich later.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 16, 2022, 09:13:52 AM

Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

PSG is strong but is Bayern Munich - their opponent - weak or weaker than PSG?

At this time, Munich's strength is better a little bit. I guess Munich can win by 2-0 if they face PSG. The experience of Munich players is more if they compete in the UCL.
Indeed PSG continue to try to break the UCL's string of poor results. Since the arrival of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi they have always failed to win. In 2020 they made it to Final but lost to Munich. It seems like they've always been unlucky at UCL.

Bayer Munich's strength has been good in the UCL even when they were underperforming in their league they never lost a game in the UCL till they move out of the group stage. Comparing the strength of Bayern and PSG in the UCL, I think PSG will be more focused to beat Bayern Munich to progress to the next stage because they will try to revenge the defeat they got against Bayern Munich in 2020 and with the current attacking squad in the team Messi, Neymar Mbappe(MNM) defeating Bayern Munich matters more to the team and they have the advantage of getting a good result with the presence of Messi who I think have a very good experience when it comes to the UCL and facing a big opponent like Munich.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 16, 2022, 09:13:52 AM

Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

PSG is strong but is Bayern Munich - their opponent - weak or weaker than PSG?

At this time, Munich's strength is better a little bit. I guess Munich can win by 2-0 if they face PSG. The experience of Munich players is more if they compete in the UCL.
Indeed PSG continue to try to break the UCL's string of poor results. Since the arrival of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi they have always failed to win. In 2020 they made it to Final but lost to Munich. It seems like they've always been unlucky at UCL.

I don't know which team will win, but PSG's attack is a hundred times better than Bayern Munich's attack. Messi and Neymar and Mbappe no one can imagine what kind of attacking they can do. However, PSG have some defensive problems that make it very difficult to win matches. But hopefully we will enjoy the match.

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First of all, I'm also one of the people who are quite aware of Lens' capability so far. They have seemed so far like they want to repeat Lille's success themselves this time. They are moving on dedicatedly to stay in the title competition and hope for PSG to lose their concentration for some time to take advantage of it.

However this would be a very optimistic thinking for Lens I'm afraid. Because it is really difficult to stop this much consistent PSG this season. PSG will still have a lot of time for their Champions League matches after the World Cup ends. In this time period, PSG are going to have eight matches in the Ligue 1. I believe PSG would focus on winning every single one of them to secure their lead even more. I don't think Lens can manage to be as consistent as that then. If they do so then I'd start being more serious about their chance.

By the way, have you seen Neymar's comment about Ronaldo - Ten Hag situation. It's really hilarious. Cheesy

https://twitter.com/SelecaoTaIk/status/1592208980633616384

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Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

PSG is strong but is Bayern Munich - their opponent - weak or weaker than PSG?

At this time, Munich's strength is better a little bit. I guess Munich can win by 2-0 if they face PSG. The experience of Munich players is more if they compete in the UCL.
Indeed PSG continue to try to break the UCL's string of poor results. Since the arrival of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi they have always failed to win. In 2020 they made it to Final but lost to Munich. It seems like they've always been unlucky at UCL.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 16, 2022, 07:53:59 AM

This season, Messi has performed well compared to Ronaldo. he has always been a determining factor in SPG's victory, even though he didn't always score. his contribution as a playmaker has made SPG too strong for their opponents in Ligue 1. he is a smart player, even though he is no longer young. however, the talent he had did not disappear. currently all leagues have stopped due to the world cup break, and I hope Messi will give his best game with Argentina in the world cup championship later.

Compare to himself first, he actually has better performance than what he did in the past season. Compares to Ronaldo, Messi have better appearances and better performance than Ronaldo. It lasts from clubs to national teams for two players. This season is totally disappointed for Ronaldo but he still has World Cup to fight.

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after the world cup was over, the last 16 of the champions league started again. and PSG will meet equally strong opponents, it will not be easy for PSG to overthrow Bayern Munich even though PSG has the advantage of playing as the home team in the first leg. IMO, the round of 16 will be the real test for PSG against Bayern Munich later.

PSG is strong but is Bayern Munich - their opponent - weak or weaker than PSG?

Bayern is weaker than a few seasons ago when they won Champions League but they are at same level of PSG. I can not pick what team will win after two matches. Maybe I don't make any prediction here, just wait for their matches and enjoy.

PSG will have to see how Messi comes back after World Cup as they need his best. This season, Messi becomes more important for PSG as we saw that in matches without Messi, PSG attacking system is very boring and has less powerful attack.

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Quote from: rozak on November 15, 2022, 02:59:31 AM

there are no problems for PSG this season. they continue to win big and keep on top of the standings. PSG's focus I think is no longer on Ligue 1. they always dream of the Champions League trophy. and they will not let go of the opportunity.
Lens is not a threat to PSG. they have good points, but if PSG always wins consistently. Lens will not stand a chance.

It will be interesting to see how PSG play after (hopefully) they are sent home from the Champions League by Bayern. For many PSG players (Mbappe, for example), this will be a severe psychological blow and, in fact, the end of the season. The paradox is that there will be many games ahead in Ligue 1 and maybe PSG will perform much worse in this scenario. It is hard to believe that any of the opponents will be able to take advantage of this opportunity, but in theory why not.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 15, 2022, 09:36:46 PM

When talking about Messi, so far he is doing good than Ronaldo, and I hope they got in what his dream is on the National team. But, sometimes Messi looks childish, and sometimes that trait is still attached on the field which makes all squad will follow him. This is the last event for him, all fans hope Messi brings the cup to the Argentine, that only one he can't get from all achievements on football.

I agree with you that Messi still has an attitude that I think should be discarded immediately. For example when the team is behind him, he always displays facial expressions that don't build enthusiasm for other players, that's what I think distinguishes him from Ronaldo. He should be able to motivate his team-mates more when he loses and if he can do so I'm sure he can inspire other players.

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Of course yes, Messi is Messi, in fact the way in which he left Barcelona you have to see how bad things have gone for Barcelona, they left the player who brought them luck and many goals, now they are suffering a lot, they fell to Europe League, and they are under many internal problems, and it is not surprising that Messi takes his Argentina team to the World Cup final, as predicted by an Artificial Intelligence that said its final: Argentina vs Portugal and Messi turned out to be the winner with his Argentina, Although I was able to pass, it would be something spectacular, I would be so happy for Messi and CR7 that on occasions I have felt that they have not respected their career.

When talking about Messi, so far he is doing good than Ronaldo, and I hope they got in what his dream is on the National team. But, sometimes Messi looks childish, and sometimes that trait is still attached on the field which makes all squad will follow him. This is the last event for him, all fans hope Messi brings the cup to the Argentine, that only one he can't get from all achievements on football.

This season, Messi has performed well compared to Ronaldo. he has always been a determining factor in SPG's victory, even though he didn't always score. his contribution as a playmaker has made SPG too strong for their opponents in Ligue 1. he is a smart player, even though he is no longer young. however, the talent he had did not disappear. currently all leagues have stopped due to the world cup break, and I hope Messi will give his best game with Argentina in the world cup championship later.

after the world cup was over, the last 16 of the champions league started again. and PSG will meet equally strong opponents, it will not be easy for PSG to overthrow Bayern Munich even though PSG has the advantage of playing as the home team in the first leg. IMO, the round of 16 will be the real test for PSG against Bayern Munich later.

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